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Sen. Frank Lautenberg (NJ) has become the 16th Democratic senator to sign a letter calling for passing a public health care option via reconciliation.

Lautenberg's office confirmed to TPMDC that he signed the letter, which was written by Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) and will be sent to Majority Leader Harry Reid. Passing the provision via reconciliation would require 51 votes.

Earlier today, Sen. Barbara Mikulski signed the letter.

You can read the letter here.

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February 18, 2010 11:33 AM   

News Flash....Another Senator who was for the PO last year is still for it. In other news, Princess Diana is still dead.

When someone who was against it last year signs the letter it will be news. Until then....ZZZZzzzz.

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February 18, 2010 11:39 AM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Besides being boringly morbid, you miss some very important points, beginning with the fact these senators are committing to using reconciliation to enact the PO. They already have 16 and they only need 34 more. Please stop whining; it's bad for your health and probably a pre-exisiting condition.

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February 18, 2010 11:59 AM    in reply to wbgonne

Slightly OT: I told you before that passing health care by reconciliation wasn't how reconciliation works, but I was wrong. For some reason, I thought we were talking about the entirety of health care reform rather than just the public option which is what this is all about now. My bad, sincerely.

Anyway, now I'm understanding why Senator Wellpoint is taking his ball and going home. If this works, he becomes irrelevant.

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February 18, 2010 12:08 PM    in reply to Xantar

Kudos.

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February 18, 2010 1:16 PM    in reply to Xantar

solid. You rock

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February 18, 2010 12:46 PM    in reply to wbgonne

100% correct, this is an important development, and if it can keep picking up steam, it might just be the turning point to get real reform.

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February 18, 2010 1:14 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Actually, that's not right. Unless someone who was for it previously (at least with lip-service) flips. There SHOULD be enough votes to pass it.

The real news would be if someone who USED TO SUPPORT IT flips. Most lists of the "Nine Who Would Vote Against" rely on DiFi and Baucus. She kind of blew that out of the water. If Baucus were to come out for it (and remember he *said* he personally favored it), it would be pretty damn difficult to say they don't have the votes.

Honestly. If democrats can't even get 51, you guys should just give up trying to do government - because you clearly aren't qualified. What's the excuse today?

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February 18, 2010 1:37 PM    in reply to kgb999

Not even close. They had no more than about 47 Senators favoring the PO before, and some of that support was pretty tepid. With the loss of Kennedy's seat, that number drops to 46, and even that assumes you don't get any flips the other way.

Try putting together a list of 50 "Aye" votes.

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February 18, 2010 2:54 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Your numbers are way off. Posting a bunch of senators names doesn't equate to them refusing to join reconciliation. You just don't get it, do you?

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February 18, 2010 2:59 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

First their were 4 and you DLC dimwits whined where was everybody else. Day three and we're at 16 now. That kind of momentum builds its own force. The number of senators in support of it outnumber the blue dogs corporatists opposing it. We can definitely reach 50, especially if that last one or two senators knows they will be named as the guy/gal that killed healthcare if they don't sign on. If you're a Democrat you should be happy the public option has momentum again, because otherwise if the public option doesn't pass, the party you claim to be for will be the minority party in the fall.

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February 18, 2010 11:41 AM   

Come on, come on. At least the number is growing.

http://randomthoughtstd.blogspot.com/

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February 18, 2010 12:18 PM   

I've already stated my theory about what I think this is about. The lack of any comment whatsoever, whether on or off the record, from anyone in or associated with Senate or House leadership, the House Progressive Caucus or anyone in the White House--or even from anyone associated with this letter is a cold tell that this is all part of some larger plan or agreement--even though the parties to that plan or agreement may be in it in furhterance of different motives and agendas.

My point here is that if this results in us getting a public option, that's great (and it looks like the insurers are hellbent on helping us with that). That would be a big win. One we'd never expected.

However, if this turns out to be an effort to generate cover for some of the pantywetters to vote for a House-Senate compromise that doesn't include a public option, and if that effort succeeds, well, I hope at least some of you will say "Yay! Well-played for once!" rather than getting your hopes up only to declare yourselves "betrayed" once again.

I'm talking, of course, to those of you who were bitterly disappointed that the public option was dead but were in the PTDB movement camp after Brown's election.

Those of you who were in the KTDB camp and rejoicing at Brown's election, well, do and say whatever you want. You will anyway.

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February 18, 2010 1:23 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

It would only be "well played" if your primary objective is enhancing the democratic party. If you care about America or good policy, "the bill" they have produced is already a betrayal. If it passes without addressing competition, a cynical ploy to create an illusion really just makes it worse.

Why not bring it to a vote? They don't have to do reconciliation in the omnibus fashion democrats always use to turn every bill into a bribe-fest. If it fails, then let the people who voted against it answer to their constituents. That's how democracy is supposed to work.

It ain't over till it's over. But I'm telling you. Passing the senate bill without some sort of major blow to the conservatives will be seen far and wide as a failure for the democrats. The GOP will eat your lunch, drink your milkshake, and screw your wife.

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February 18, 2010 1:53 PM    in reply to kgb999

And if the bill fails, what should I tell my aunt who can't get coverage because she has a pre-existing condition? "Sorry you still can't get covered, but the deal that would have fixed this didn't deal a major blow to conservatives"?

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February 18, 2010 3:43 PM    in reply to Xantar

The ban on pre-existing conditions now only applies to those under 19, so unless your auntie is still in highschool she ain't getting coverage.

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/democrats-dropping-ban-preexisting-conditions/
http://www.americablog.com/2010/01/more-evidence-that-dems-are-seriously.html

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February 18, 2010 7:01 PM    in reply to loudprogressive

Your own links say that the Democrats are considering dropping the ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. Considering /= Doing. And both of your links are from January 22 at the latest. It's been a long time since then, and I've seen no indication that they are going to drop that ban now.

But thanks for wasting my time.

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February 18, 2010 2:45 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Everything you've been saying about this is and continues to be nonsense. You're arguing that the leadership doing nothing at all is proof the leadership has a brilliant plan. You're arguing that people gradually rolling out for the letter in a disorganized, random fashion is proof that they all coordinated this beforehand. You're arguing that a group of Senators acting in complete contradiction to the leadership's strategy for the next few weeks somehow helps the leadership, or that Senators splitting off from the leadership's plan and pushing for something else will somehow help unity on the leadership's plan. You're arguing that the leadership should get credit for a third-party effort that they had nothing to do with and which doesn't serve any of their goals. None of this makes any sense. All you're doing is making defenders of the administration look ridiculous.

This might, but most likely isn't going to, pass the public option. And if it doesn't pass the public option, no one will come to any conclusion other than "the leadership did nothing, and nothing happened".

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February 18, 2010 3:15 PM    in reply to mcc

I agree with you

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February 18, 2010 3:38 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Still sounds as idiotic and nonsensical as the last time you posted this nonsense.

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February 18, 2010 12:20 PM   

I just called PA's Casey and Specter asking them to sign the letter.

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February 18, 2010 12:48 PM    in reply to JohnW1141

good job man. Specter will sign it he has to be seen as the most far left liberal in the senate to make voters forget about him switcing sides.

One think Arlen is not is an idiot.

I wish the other dems were as smart

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February 18, 2010 2:02 PM   

Here's the math:

41 Republican senators - certain Nay votes.

Probable Nay votes (11): Baucus, Bayh, Bennett, Carper, Conrad, Hagan, Landrieu, Lincoln, Nelson (NE), Pryor, Lieberman

Likely Nay votes (5): Begich, Dorgan, Klobuchar, McCaskill, Nelson (FL)

That's a total of 52 probable Nays and 5 more likely. When one of these signs the letter it's interesting. When two sign, it's news. You need seven.

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February 18, 2010 2:57 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Note, it's not enough to just have 50 votes. You very specifically need to have Kent Conrad on board, because he is head of the budget committee and any reconciliation bill has to go through him. Kent Conrad has endorsed reconciliation for a "sidecar" to amend the Senate bill. He's not said anything specific about what he'd do if we tried to pass a public option through reconciliation, or put the public option into the sidecar.

(Of course, I really seriously doubt the leadership is going to put the public option into the sidecar, because they've been consistently and increasingly risk-averse on the health care bill and putting the public option into the sidecar creates at least some risk that the sidecar won't get to 50. So also in order for this letter to have effect, you also probably need to get the health care sidecar passed first, or get the health care bill passed through some method that doesn't involve a sidecar.)

This said, I think people signing at least moves us in the right direction on the public option, especially now that we're up in the double digits, because it puts pressure on people like Conrad and signals to the leadership that there will be some interest in the Senate for a reconciliation strategy on the public option. Let's say, totally hypothetically, that we get up to 48 people signing on this letter. From the leadership's perspective things then probably look like "huh, we only have to get two more people on board to pass a public option using reconciliation".

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February 18, 2010 3:28 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

"Probable Nay votes (11): Baucus, Bayh, Bennett, Carper, Conrad, Hagan, Landrieu, Lincoln, Nelson (NE), Pryor, Lieberman"

I assume things are "interesting" then, since this campaign is purportedly being led by Bennett-who is listed on your 'Probable Nay votes' category.

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February 18, 2010 4:16 PM   

Just called Senator McCaskill's office. I can't imagine it will do any good, but I wouldn't feel happy with myself unless I made the call.

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