
A new national survey from Public Policy Polling (D) finds that an overwhelming majority of Americans do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president -- but a significant number of those people would still vote for her against Barack Obama.
The poll asked "Do you think Sarah Palin is or is not qualified to serve as President?" The answer was only 30% qualified, 59% not qualified, 11% undecided. However, in a direct match-up against President Obama, Palin attracts 43% of the vote to Obama's 50%. This means that there are 13% of Americans who either do not think Palin is qualified to be president, or are undecided on the matter, and would nevertheless vote for her.
"I guess there's easy spin for both sides on that number," writes PPP communications director Tom Jensen. "From my perspective it's astounding that such a significant portion of Americans are willing to vote for someone they don't think is qualified- this is the White House, not American Idol. But I guess Republicans could make the argument that Obama's just so bad that any Republican would be better than him, whether they consider that Republican to be qualified or not."
In the other match-ups for 2012, Obama leads Mike Huckabee by 46%-43%, leads the lesser-known John Thune by 46%-28%, and edges out Mitt Romney by 45%-43%.
In last month's PPP numbers, Huckabee actually edged out Obama by 45%-44%, Obama led Palin by 49%-41%, and Obama had a 44%-42% lead over Romney. Thune was not tested.
mike from Arlington
February 18, 2010 1:19 PM
"Palin attracts 43% of the vote"
Baby Jesus is crying.
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mjshep
February 18, 2010 3:05 PM in reply to mike from Arlington
He does that a lot these days.
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3star2nr
February 19, 2010 1:25 AM in reply to mike from Arlington
just shows their are alot of stupid people in this country
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Max Thrax
February 18, 2010 1:39 PM
We can talk about economic data all day long, this country is finished because the Enlightenment is dead.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 18, 2010 3:36 PM in reply to Max Thrax
You just missed it by, oh....200 some odd years...peace, you greenpartydemonceinawhiledude.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/hum_303/enlightenment.html
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CityGuy
February 18, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
But I've always considered myself a renaissance man. Wait.... Did I miss the boat on that movement too?
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 18, 2010 7:11 PM in reply to CityGuy
Hahahahaaaa....
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kmac
February 18, 2010 1:39 PM
It's appears to me if an individual deems Palin unqualified but would vote for her if running against Obama it is saying loud and clear this is a racist problem!
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felix
February 18, 2010 1:53 PM in reply to kmac
Not really. A lot of Republicans WILL NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES vote Democratic, which is why Democrats don't win landslide elections - that is, like Reagan in 80, 84, and even Bush I in 1988. It doesn't matter if the economy is growing at a fast clip, unemployment is down to 5%, and OBama has Bin Laden's head on a pike in the oval office - in 2012, there will be 20 states that will vote for the Republican, no matter who it is.
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Neil
February 18, 2010 2:24 PM in reply to felix
Yep, you nailed it exactly.
I'd add that while the Republican base won't vote Democratic under any circumstances, they won't necessarily turn out to vote at all if the GOP candidate id a dud.
In a nut shell, that's why Republicans will continue to demonize Obama and attempt to scare Republican voters out to the polls. It's just that simple.
We just have to hope a majority of people stay reasonable.
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lousgirl84
February 18, 2010 2:43 PM in reply to felix
I think we did pretty damn good in the last election.
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felix
February 18, 2010 2:52 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Sure, but it wasn't a landslide. The Republicans had left the country with two wars and an economy falling over a cliff. Still, 47% of the people wanted them to stay in power. If that had been the Democrats record, Republicans would have won 40 states.
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lousgirl84
February 18, 2010 5:10 PM in reply to felix
Some crystal ball you have there. I'd say the 08 election was a huge landslide considering a black man won and won states that normally would not have gone blue. I think we did a fabulous job. Now if only the other side would allow us to govern.
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AJM
February 18, 2010 11:40 PM in reply to lousgirl84
The other side "ALLOW?"
What about we elect people who are true Democrats and willing to vote for the principles the party is supposed to stand for?
Electing people because they have a D after their name allows you to organize the Senate or the House but will not advance policies unless they are willing to vote for them and preferably to fight for them by educating the public instead of groveling for a bi-partisan vote for whatever uselessly watered down compromise may be offered. Of course, if the Republicans are going to vote against positions they have sponsored recently if these are now offered by Democrats even that won't work to give the appearance of bipartisanship.
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AJM
February 18, 2010 11:41 PM in reply to lousgirl84
The other side "ALLOW?"
What about we elect people who are true Democrats and willing to vote for the principles the party is supposed to stand for?
Electing people because they have a D after their name allows you to organize the Senate or the House but will not advance policies unless they are willing to vote for them and preferably to fight for them by educating the public instead of groveling for a bi-partisan vote for whatever uselessly watered down compromise may be offered. Of course, if the Republicans are going to vote against positions they have sponsored recently if these are now offered by Democrats even that won't work to give the appearance of bipartisanship.
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Peter Principle
February 18, 2010 1:42 PM
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the good taste of the American public."
H.L. Mencken
Truly a prophet ahead of his on time. Although actually, it should be: "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the Republican base."
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onecrappyusername
February 18, 2010 1:55 PM in reply to Peter Principle
it's actually "underestimating the intelligence of the american public"
they're both true though
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CityGuy
February 18, 2010 1:47 PM
And Sailormarlowe hasn't commented yet???
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Acewrap
February 18, 2010 1:53 PM in reply to CityGuy
He's still fapping at the front page photo. Give him time to clean up.
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tduff
February 18, 2010 1:48 PM
Just shows how dumb voters are.
http://randomthoughtstd.blogspot.com/
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jsdc007
February 18, 2010 1:48 PM
This poll is a waste of time. Unless the election's today, it doesn't matter.
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jeffs
February 18, 2010 1:48 PM
30% think she's qualified to be Pres?
Sigh.
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Sailormarlowe
February 18, 2010 1:50 PM
Qualified? Compared to the current empty suit who occupies the White House, and his simian predecessor, Gov. Sarah Palin is overqualified for the Presidency.
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onecrappyusername
February 18, 2010 2:12 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Ahhhh, so you judge palin's qualifications as how they compare to a caricature of a person you disagree with.
That explains a lot.
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rbe1
February 18, 2010 2:24 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Um governor ? She quit, remember ?
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farnsworth
February 18, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Military positions for president!
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Sailormarlowe
February 18, 2010 6:08 PM in reply to farnsworth
Fagsworth! Your parole officer is looking for you. Says you removed your radio collar. Bad pervy!
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Lestatdelc
February 18, 2010 2:49 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
LOL
I know I shouldn't laugh at retards, but... LOL
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ru4862
February 18, 2010 1:51 PM
This poll is useless but it proves Bill Mahr's point that most Americans are stupid!
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numediaman
February 18, 2010 1:52 PM
"People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone." You recall that movie, don't you?
Sarah Palin gets the press she does because there is zero leadership in this country right now. Neither the President, nor the leaders of Congress are fulfilling their Constitutional duties.
As a result, America is seriously in danger of electing people whose beliefs are . . . well, unbelievable. But as long as the President continues down this road we will be facing a Palin or Huckebee or Romney or Joe the Plumber presidency.
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ru4862
February 18, 2010 1:58 PM in reply to numediaman
Wow!!! You nailed it. Americans want to be lead and right now many of us feel this president is not leading. God help us...if any of these reslimlicans retake the oval office in 12'
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rbe1
February 18, 2010 2:28 PM in reply to numediaman
I have to agree. The leadership coming from this white house is really pathetic. But look around the world. Virtually all the western democracies are being run by a bunch of ineffectual bean counters. There really isn't any leadership to be had, except perhaps in Russia and one or two other places, maybe Mongolia.
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Cool Blue Reason
February 18, 2010 2:56 PM in reply to rbe1
Fascist.
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Lestatdelc
February 18, 2010 2:55 PM in reply to numediaman
Really?
Please cite the specific article or section which lists the Constitutional duties that President Obama is not fulfilling.
Thanks in advance.
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Lalo35adm
February 18, 2010 1:52 PM
That says a lot on what people think about Obama these days.
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Dorn76
February 18, 2010 2:04 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
Mental midgets don't "think" about much.
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JZ
February 18, 2010 2:06 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
Actually, I'd be quite worried if I was the GOP. With unemployment at 10%, any Republican should be trouncing him in the polls. Three years from now, the economy will surely be better and Obama will be able to weave a narrative about how he rescued the country from the disaster created by the GOP. Look at stories before the '82 midterms. They're remarkably similar to what we're seeing today.
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sheerahkahn
February 18, 2010 1:52 PM
I once was a moderate Republican, but I didn't leave the Republican party, they left me.
I will vote against any and all Republican party candidates...as far as I'm concerned the Republican party is no longer a party of American loyalists, they're a party of corporate fascists who have sold their citizenship for a few silvers.
Unfortunately, it seems that quite a few Democrats are the other side of the side of the same coin as their Republican counter-parts.
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Lalo35adm
February 18, 2010 1:53 PM
"From my perspective it's astounding that such a significant portion of Americans are willing to vote for someone they don't think is qualified- this is the White House, not American Idol."
- Perhaps it's the people's way of saying it really makes no difference to the little guy who sits in the WH.
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Dorn76
February 18, 2010 2:05 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
Then why are they frothing at the mouth acting like its the Endtimes?
You're making no sense.
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Lalo35adm
February 18, 2010 2:14 PM in reply to Dorn76
You're right, they probably think he really sucks.
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Dorn76
February 18, 2010 2:18 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
And they "want their Country back", I know.
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SpiderPig
February 18, 2010 1:54 PM
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
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twirling fartknocker
February 18, 2010 1:58 PM
Welcome to our own contemporary Idiocracy.
Although maybe she should start a bit smaller by being the running mate of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
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docrocktex
February 18, 2010 1:59 PM
These is the same 30% that think George W. Bush was the best president ever. Nothing to see here...
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AhTrini1
February 18, 2010 2:00 PM
Those 13% are the teabaggers who care about their country soooooooooooooo much, that they would vote for an unqualified person to run the country.
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Lalo35adm
February 18, 2010 2:16 PM in reply to AhTrini1
Oh come on, it's not only Democrats who have the right to get an empty suit elected president. Be fair!
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lousgirl84
February 18, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
You couldn't fill one pant leg of Obama's suit.
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Lestatdelc
February 18, 2010 2:52 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
But since we didn't (and don't) elect "empty suit" Democratic presidents. So your attempt at being pithy is DOA.
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Schmed
February 18, 2010 4:08 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
Wit is the salt of conversation, not the food.
- William Hazlitt
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dtOZONE
February 18, 2010 9:30 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
...but enough about Grover Cleveland.
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AJM
February 18, 2010 11:47 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
But the Republicans had their turn already -- the Supreme Court elected Cheney. You may or may not like his policies and their effect on the country but you must concede that he got us Obama.
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AJM
February 18, 2010 11:55 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
But the Republicans had their turn already -- the Supreme Court elected Cheney. You may or may not like his policies and their effect on the country but you must concede that he got us Obama.
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Pete Bilderback
February 18, 2010 2:02 PM
I'm guessing that 13% do not believe Obama is qualified either, and given the choice would prefer to vote for the unqualified candidate whose ideology they identify with. It's really not such a surprising result if you think about it. I'm more concerned about the 30% who think she is qualified.
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Cool Blue Reason
February 18, 2010 3:03 PM in reply to Pete Bilderback
I'm with you on this one.
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T.P.
February 18, 2010 2:03 PM
I would vote for common sense over an elitist academic.
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rbe1
February 18, 2010 2:14 PM in reply to T.P.
Yes, there's nothing quite so common as common sense, is there ?
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T.P.
February 18, 2010 4:39 PM in reply to rbe1
Your elitist comment is exactly why you and other people who flaunt superior intellect and/or education, and rail against the "common", or in Bill Maher's case, "stupid" people will all be scratching their heads in the next election wondering how all those common/stupid people could elect someone like "that". You and the people you vote for are too busy looking down your noses to see what's in front of you.
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Dorn76
February 18, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to T.P.
What makes one an elitist in America? Being raised by a single mother? Being multi-racial? Sharing a middle name with a deposed dictator? What?
Please, enlighten us.
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SOS ICEBERG
February 18, 2010 5:24 PM in reply to Dorn76
I work at a prestigious NYC cancer center...incredible how disdain for "elitism" flies out the window as soon as somebody is diagnosed and feels compelled to break down our doors to get treated here.
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dtOZONE
February 18, 2010 9:36 PM in reply to T.P.
too bad Palin doesn't have a speck of common sense within a mile of her body.
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Maritza
February 18, 2010 2:05 PM
Useless polls
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henk
February 18, 2010 2:12 PM
I wonder if anyone in the White House is looking at this? Sure there are a lot of stupid voters and yes the media is just as stupid as the voters, but that many people choosing Palin over Obama is seriously f'd up. I heard the Obama is revving up his campaign machine with paid campaign staff in all fifty states. It might be better if he started focusing on getting something done for the average Joe/Jolene otherwise we are all fucked.
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rbe1
February 18, 2010 2:12 PM
No one ever accused the American people (on the right, that is) of an excess of intelligence.
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ru4862
February 18, 2010 2:16 PM
Most Americans are stupid but not so stupid that they would put a functioning retard in the white house. I'll take the ivy league educated worldly, self-made politican over the ex-governor/sport caster/ mayor of a small hamlet. LOL
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Lalo35adm
February 18, 2010 2:19 PM in reply to ru4862
LOL, trouble is the elections are determined by how "most" Americans vote.
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Boidster
February 18, 2010 2:48 PM in reply to Lalo35adm
<cough>Al Gore</cough>
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twirling fartknocker
February 18, 2010 2:51 PM in reply to Boidster
ding
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ru4862
February 18, 2010 2:18 PM
Most Americans are stupid but not so stupid that they would put a functioning retard in the white house. I'll take the ivy league educated worldly, self-made politican over the ex-governor/sport caster/ mayor of a small hamlet. LOL
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Sailormarlowe
February 18, 2010 6:06 PM in reply to ru4862
Why don't you get some Ivy League education? Retard isn't a noun.
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Shoto
February 18, 2010 6:16 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
It is in your case.
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dtOZONE
February 18, 2010 9:32 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
re-tard-
–noun
3.
a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4.
Slang: Disparaging.
a.
a mentally retarded person.
b.
a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
5.
Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in eachcylinder is generated later in the cycle.
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expat46
February 18, 2010 2:32 PM
This makes me so mad I want to fly my private plane into an IRS office in a fit of Jihadist anti-tax protest.
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hollywood
February 18, 2010 3:26 PM in reply to expat46
Well you are all going to think I am finally over the top .... but .... I just read a bit of what this guy wrote about corporate healthcare letting tens of thousands of people die needlessly to protect their corporate profits and I agree with him. If a Harvard study finds 45,000 dead Americans every year as victims of this corporate profit DEATHCARE system and all we do is sigh because it is impossible to get 60 fucking votes in the Senate .... then again, the plane guy has a point. If 45,000 people died in plane crashes here every year I think we might get some action to stop it. How dead does dead have to be to make this corporate profit religion look a bit more frightening than it already is? If you feel sorry for any innocent person who died in the plane crash why don't you feel sorry for tens of thousands of innocent people dying every year in our corporate DEATHCARE system? Why are Americans so utterly fucked up when it comes to corporations and profits? Supreme Court - Corporations=People. Oh Really?
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expat46
February 18, 2010 5:18 PM in reply to hollywood
Yeah, something for everyone in that manifesto.
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ru4862
February 18, 2010 2:40 PM
Obama has his share of problems but considering how squirrely and weak the potential republican field for 2012; Obama will be re elected.
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M.L.H.
February 18, 2010 2:45 PM
I will say this every time a PPP poll is quoted. Their methods are shoddy and their results are suspect.
They rely on robo-polls. This means both people who have caller ID on their phones and those who don't will hang up as soon as they realize no person is on the other end of the line are excluded from the sample. In polling, we say the survey suffers from self-selection bias. I can't say if this means conservative bias or progressive bias, but there is a strong bias in favor of people with WAY too much time on their hands.
Robo-polls aren't reliable. PPP does robo-polls. Serious news organizations shouldn't quote them.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
February 18, 2010 4:32 PM in reply to M.L.H.
Actually, robopolls have an excellent record of predicting the results of elections. People are less likely to lie to a machine if they don't feel like their answer is socially acceptable. PPP's got a decent track record.
It's just that this far out from an election, any poll asking stuff like this is meaningless for multiple reasons, regardless of methodology or method. And, unfortunately, robo polls are so cheap to do that PPP (like Rasmussen) is going to do a lot of headline-whoring polls like this one between paying gigs just to keep their name out there.
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M.L.H.
February 18, 2010 10:48 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
The "track record" doesn't stand up to the math of it. Self-selection bias is still a problem even if the poll later matches the results it is tracking. The famous example is the Literary Digest poll of 1936, with 4 million responses from 10 million requests mailed out. This changed the way polling was done, but some pollsters are forgetting about it. This is not unlike Toyota becoming a quality nightmare by forgetting the work of Dr. Deming, a name once revered in Japan.
You are right about polls this far away from an election. Just gas, regardless of methodology.
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stefsstuff
February 18, 2010 2:45 PM
Just goes to show how stupid the American voters are. And why are they doing polls like this 3 years out?
The media will take this and start talking to all the pundits and everyone will give their opinion about how much trouble President Obama and the dems are in and just perpetuate the bullshit.
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Lestatdelc
February 18, 2010 2:46 PM
Sarah who?
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Shoto
February 18, 2010 6:18 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
You know, "Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods." The creature that Sailor dreams will someday shine his knob...
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johnnyba
February 18, 2010 2:49 PM
I think it tells you that 43% have come to hate the other side so much they'd vote for the R or D no matter what. I don't mean to put the usual false equivalency in here. There is no equivalent figure I can think of right away on the left because the kook candidates generally don't get much traction and even the worst like the other Alaskan who got into the 2008 cycle come across as eccentrics, ideologues, or identity politics niche candidates rather than as stupid. Palin is all about those identity politics and is a "know nothing" all about catering to the social mores and fears of a certain type of ethnic white people particularly in small town and rural America. Her closest equivalents like Al Sharpton on the left have tended to piss of other groups of Democrats enough that its hard to imagine them getting anything like Palin's current buzz let alone win the primary and get to 43%. Still, its hard to imagine that the worst candidate the dems could come up with could get less than 43% unless the Republican was exceptionally moderate.
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pmb50
February 18, 2010 2:50 PM
Thus proving once again how dumb the American people are. Did they conduct this survey at CPAC? Apparently being ignorant and a quitter are positive traits we look for in a President. Obama should get of his cowardly ass and start defining himself
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Max Thrax
February 18, 2010 2:56 PM in reply to pmb50
Again, we can talk all day about economic theory, stimulus, credit default swaps....at a fundamental level, the AMerican people no longer have what it takes.
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hollywood
February 18, 2010 3:33 PM in reply to Max Thrax
I think you are right. It seems that the perfect storm of shitty education, christian religiosity, fat and sugar diets, corporate profit media, and whatever the fuck else has dumbed us down to an easily controlled 300 million pig farm.
Sarah Palin is our PERFECT President!
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Matt Jones
February 18, 2010 6:27 PM in reply to hollywood
Does she have electrolytes? :)
(Idiocracy ref, btw)
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jeffgee
February 18, 2010 3:11 PM
Uh oh.
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CityGuy
February 18, 2010 5:21 PM in reply to jeffgee
Doh!
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lousgirl84
February 18, 2010 5:20 PM
One thing is for certain, Randy Shoeneman (one of McCain's ex campaign is said to be prepping her on foreign policy and Mary Matalin has been brought in to help. They are serious about running her for sure.
One thing I am certain of, is they can fill the bitch's held full between today and the election and she still couldn't pass the test. I am not diminishing the fact that she is popular and has a following and that the MSM will let her get away with a lot, but she will not be able to bluff her way out of this one.
God help us all if she does.
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Sailormarlowe
February 18, 2010 6:12 PM in reply to lousgirl84
crablousegirl? 8 four whats? Ewwwww...
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glblank
February 19, 2010 12:47 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
We're not interested in your last shore leave there Coast Guard Cal.
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lousgirl84
February 19, 2010 10:10 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen you steamin pile!!
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LAB
February 18, 2010 8:54 PM
PPP has had some nutty polls, I think they are trying to rile the Dems to have more backbone.
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glblank
February 19, 2010 12:45 AM
An interesting demonstration of how far the party of Goldwater has slipped into the party of Homer Simpson was the dumbed down version of George Will writing an article article about how Sarah Palin could not possibly be the the Republican candidate in `12, because so many think she is unfit, when in fact fitness is just an Elitist qualifier overlooked by the Fascists that Will is too blind to see. Here's one for third party Palin in `12.
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