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Libertarian darling Ron Paul won the CPAC straw poll tonight, taking 31% of the vote in the multi-candidate field. Mitt Romney came in a distant second place. Sarah Palin came in third, drawing single-digits.
Only 2,395 straw poll votes were cast by what organizers said was 10,000 attendees at this year's CPAC.
Results from the full field, and a link to the complete poll after the jump.
Haley Barbour: 1%
Mitch Daniels: 2%
Newt Gingrich: 4%
Mike Huckabee: 4%
Sarah Palin: 7%
Ron Paul: 31%
Tim Pawlenty: 6%
Mike Pence: 5%
Mitt Romney: 22%
Rick Santorum: 2%
John Thune: 2%
Read the full poll here.
Late Update: Another shocker from the straw poll - just 2 percent of CPACers approve of Obama.
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Nutter
February 20, 2010 5:53 PM
And you Ron Paul nuts do not want me to tie the GOP and conspiracy nuts? Guess what? He IS a REPUBLICAN AND A CONSPIRACY NUT!
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rbeats
February 20, 2010 6:28 PM in reply to Nutter
He is also a Creationists, does not believe in the right of woman to choose, and was/is against the civil rights act of 1964 saying it violated the 10th Amendment.
he also has some choice words for MLK.
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Heraldblog
February 21, 2010 11:15 AM in reply to rbeats
He is closely allied with the Association of American Physicans and Surgeons, a crank group that also rejects vaccines and thinks the scientific method stifles the patient-doctor relationship.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzlz8
The group publishes the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons - JAPANS - a notorious junk science journal. Dr. Paul is one scary, unbalanced dude. Mainstream media has ignored this side of him.
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expat46
February 21, 2010 11:40 AM in reply to rbeats
ditto the civil war
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mavel
February 21, 2010 12:51 AM in reply to Nutter
The tea partiers to set the record straight did demonstrate against Cheney and Bush. This is the backlash against the welfare state and socialism people. The rest of the politicians are just liars anway. You can vote Paul or you can vote for a liar.
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Neil
February 21, 2010 5:24 PM in reply to mavel
well, thanks for another simplistic opinion and false dichotomy from a Ron Paul supporter!
i'd love for RP to actually come close to achieving something nationally so we can all take him seriously long enough to debate the crazy out of his wackadoodle theories. in the meanwhile... keep spouting, we'll keep ignoring.
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Neil
February 21, 2010 5:21 PM in reply to Nutter
Oh Ron Paul as the Republican nominee... that would be entertaining to say the least. He's got several popular (and incredibly simplistic) views, but beyond that he's one conspiracy theory after another. None of which his supporters are actually aware of. Frankly the RP supporters i've met are 10% crazy paranoids, and 90% apathetic and uninformed. If the 90% were aware of most RP positions, they'd be embarrassed.
It'd be a real wakeup call if RP was taken seriously long enough to expose and then debate the crazy out of his theories.
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mcc
February 20, 2010 5:55 PM
PAWLENTUM!!@
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jeffgee
February 21, 2010 10:18 AM in reply to mcc
A frothy substance similar to Santorum.
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we r all husseins
February 20, 2010 5:56 PM
I thought Ron Paul was too liberal for these people.
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Nutter
February 20, 2010 8:03 PM in reply to we r all husseins
Just a few warmongering statements is all that separates him from the rest of them.
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Prognosys
February 21, 2010 10:54 AM in reply to Nutter
Ron Paul always struck me as an actual small government libertarian type. Not that he's not crazy in many other ways.
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Neil
February 21, 2010 5:37 PM in reply to Prognosys
Libertarian types are crazy by definition in the modern age. Libertarianism is a simplistic utopian ideology. The mirror image of Communism.
Some form of Liberarianism can work on a very small scale, like village scale. Any larger it breaks down as complexity quickly outpaces the individual ability to comprehend and self regulate. What then emerges are quasi-government agencies, like paramilitaries, private police forces, corporations, etc. which fulfill traditional regulatory roles, only they are not democratic or accountable directly. Libertarianism will always result in Fascism.
Communism can similarly work on a small village scale where voluntarism and social connections can maintain the peace, like kibbutz in Israel. But taken to a national scale communism quickly collapses and becomes totalitarianism.
All these simplistic utopian ideologies are foolish and the followers either ignorant, crazy, or both.
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Virginia
February 22, 2010 9:50 AM in reply to Neil
Neil - Good analysis; you summarized the absurdities of these Fantasy Island libertarians very succinctly. If they ever had to actually live in the "utopia" of thier dreams, they'd be in for a very rude awakening.
Your average libertarian is a healthy white male age 25-50 who has deluded himself into thinking that he can master the world on his own terms (just don't take away the roads for his SUV). There aren't that many female libertarians because women,as the traditional childbearers and caregivers, are less likely to fall victim to this delusion.
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Maritza
February 20, 2010 5:57 PM
Go Ron Paul!!!!
What no Mitt Momentum?
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mikedrevguy
February 20, 2010 5:58 PM
with Sarah Palin a DEEP third. I do believe the misogynistic undercurrent of the TeaParty is likely influencing this tide.
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Overreach THIS!
February 21, 2010 5:34 AM in reply to mikedrevguy
Well, are you projecting? Cuz Sarah has been making it more and more clear that's incapable and also wants to absorb them. Like what, the Borg? Like anything, misogyny can be overrated...
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philogratis
February 21, 2010 3:11 PM in reply to mikedrevguy
Sarah Palin refused to attend CPAC, claiming that one of the organizers was a big crook. She's not going to win any straw polls like that. If you want to win, you've got to show up.
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mcc
February 20, 2010 5:59 PM
Mitch Daniels at 2% is actually a bit of a surprise. Has he been even floating the idea of a run?
Hasn't his popularity been finally sinking a little bit as governors go down in general?
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Former Federal Employee
February 20, 2010 7:00 PM in reply to mcc
Out of all of the names on this list, Mitch Daniels is probably the worst match for Obama.
He's not given to saying things that are crazy or simplistic to the point of idiocy. He's managed to run a state government. He has White House experience, as well as the good luck or good sense to leave the Bush administration before most of the scandals arose. He's a clean Midwestern white male who can reasonably project competence. He is frightening.
I couldn't be happier to see Paul and Palin out in front. Dear God, let that come to pass in the fall of 2012.
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Fleetlord Atvar
February 20, 2010 8:51 PM in reply to Former Federal Employee
Personally, I'd rather see a John McCain-esque figure as the front-runner. You know, someone who isn't 100% traditional (read: has no real pull with the Republican base but) but still fits the typical mold enough to both be nominated and not be hugely appealing outside a certain demographic. Ron Paul is too fringe-y for that. I seriously doubt he could ever get the Republican nomination.
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MoCrash
February 20, 2010 8:55 PM in reply to Former Federal Employee
And he's got no Elvis; bland as stale white bread. In the media circus which is our political process, you can't win a primary -- much less general election -- without being compelling in either speech or appearance. Without a charisma implant, Daniels is no match for most Republicans -- much less Obama. Which is a shame, because he's a little higher breed of Republican than the rest of that field of idiots.
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calbearinillinois
February 21, 2010 12:22 AM in reply to MoCrash
Yeah, I don't think he could pull off a RV tour through the whole 50 states the way he did for 2 years to win in Indiana (and that also took the incumbent dying, because O'Bannon would likely have cruised to re-election).
In fact, Mitch's RV may have been the inspiration for Scott Brown's truck crusade - and his most lasting contribution to the GOP.
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claytoncharles
February 21, 2010 7:32 AM in reply to mcc
obama got as much as daniels.
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trblmkr
February 21, 2010 12:17 PM in reply to mcc
They thought the poll said 'Charlie Daniels'.
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tchamp77
February 20, 2010 5:59 PM
Mitt pulls down another Silver!
PAUL-ROMNEY 2012!!
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BeeClone
February 20, 2010 8:19 PM in reply to tchamp77
That's what I was thinking, lol.
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tchamp77
February 20, 2010 6:02 PM
Your article says tonight but you filed it at 5:42 pm...
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jwr12
February 20, 2010 6:06 PM
RON PAUL 4 EVER!
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Nutter
February 20, 2010 6:07 PM in reply to jwr12
No more conspiracy absolutist theorists from Texas, please!
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DanielFBoone
February 20, 2010 6:09 PM
Ouch! That's gotta hurt.....
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jsdc007
February 20, 2010 6:11 PM
Have these ghouls left town as yet?
Last night, the dog refused to go out for a walk in utter fear, and we're running out of piddle pads.
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Michael Lafferty
February 20, 2010 6:17 PM
Okay, that's 86%. So…
Who captured the remaining 24% of the poll share? It's a significant number, and a share larger than any individual other than Representative Ron Paul.
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Michael Lafferty
February 20, 2010 6:35 PM in reply to Michael Lafferty
Er, more coffee please…
100 less 86, is only 14% - not 24%. Still, I wonder who [or what] divided the remaining responses. 14% is still a significant shortfall, falling behind only Representative Ron Paul and Governor Mitt Romney. Are these the 'undecided' or 'no preference' voters?
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mcc
February 20, 2010 6:39 PM in reply to Michael Lafferty
The PDF includes "other" and "undecided" counts.
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Manix
February 20, 2010 6:22 PM
I just heard Limbaugh's fat head explode!
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PAvoter
February 20, 2010 6:43 PM
Would voter's be stupid enough to elect another Texan? OMG!
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jim43
February 20, 2010 6:49 PM
The Tea Party is a phantom movement if it cannot even beat Ron Paul in a rigged poll at a convention they are essentially operating.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Principled-Progressive/294994780490?ref=ts
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kgb999
February 20, 2010 8:52 PM in reply to jim43
That was my big take away as well. There has been a HUGE pushback against the attempted neoconservative take over of the tea party movement. Did you catch the story where they were booing the guy preaching homophobia?
I don't think he'd be a great President, but Ron Paul supporters (OG tea party) are what made that happen. Now if only democratic progressives can show as much moxie to take on the DLC, we'll be getting somewhere
It seems impossible for many to grasp that '09 teabaggers aren't politically active in any real sense and have no concept of strategy or participation in society - they just wait to do what Glen Beck tells them. Ron Paul's Tea Party Patriots are very much aware of how to work within the political establishment to make waves. It's pretty funny GOP corporate didn't think to bus in a bunch of '09ers to drown out the real TPP message. Methinks they won't make that mistake again.
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FreeRider
February 20, 2010 10:20 PM in reply to kgb999
You folks need to give it up. The DLC is so yesterday with no power and no presence within the Democratic party. But in you zeal to find an "enemy" you continue to pound the myth that the party is being controlled by the DLC.
Hell, Harold Ford is the chair of the DLC. If that doesn't tell you what a toothless tiger the DLC is, I don't know what does.
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kgb999
February 21, 2010 5:19 AM in reply to FreeRider
Catch-all abbreviation for the corporatist/globalist faction of the democratic party. At times referred to as neoliberal, but that really isn't entirely accurate for all of them IMO, because by the time you get to the far Blue Dog side of the spectrum some of them, while corporate whores to the end, border on protectionist. So it might be a bit of a misnomer, but arguably so; certainly a thin enough distinction to allow the condensation into an acronym for the sake of comment brevity. If I'm going to have to deal with democrats for the next 8 years, I might as well get started explaining how your damn party structure appears to work to you. This will likely be insufferable }-|
In addition to Ford, BTW, Tim Kaine is the head of the DNC. There's a power-house of a fella for you.[/s] Ergo ...
I know you are happy with how things are shaping up. And I guess I'm happy you're happy. Someone might as well be, our opinions likely aren't changing much.
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FreeRider
February 21, 2010 12:00 PM in reply to kgb999
A whole lot of blather to say nothing.
By the way, a corporatist and a corporate whore are miles apart ideologically. You firebaggers have grabbed on to the word "corporatist" and throw it around against Democrats you don't like with the mistaken belief that it means doing the will of big business.
It's uninformed stupidity masquerading studied activism. If you want to be taken seriously, you should read more than blog rantings from people who are as idiotic as you.
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Leftist Pinko
February 20, 2010 6:52 PM
crackpots. every last one of them. not to be taken seriously.
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rbeats
February 20, 2010 6:53 PM
Also you know Glenn Beck called Ron Paul and his followers Domestic Terrorists when he had his show on CNN.
Now he is about to give the keynote address at this circus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo
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shanefish
February 20, 2010 6:56 PM
Of course Ron Paul won, he's the only TRUE Tea Partier...the original gangster. I might even be sueded to vote for a Ron Paul/Ralph Nader or Wesley Clark ticket....or something along those lines.
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echoshatter
February 20, 2010 7:09 PM in reply to shanefish
Ron Paul is anything but a Teapartier. A "true" Teapartier is someone standing in a crowd holding talking points from Fox News, and can't explain why they are saying what they do. It's a shame that they've grasped ideals like small, fiscally responsible government and perverted it into this nonsensical fight again Obama and the Democrats.
The Tea Party is anything but Libertarian.
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rbeats
February 20, 2010 7:29 PM in reply to echoshatter
The Tea Party started during the Ron Paul campaign, you should check your history.
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Nutter
February 20, 2010 8:00 PM in reply to echoshatter
And how is that different from any other Ron Paul supporters? You guys are more persistent than the Palin supporters. No sense of reality. Every time I confront you guys, I always get conspiracy theories back. Take the NAFTA super Highway thing for instance. Or the Federal Reserve conspiracies.
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Cal Gal
February 20, 2010 8:01 PM in reply to shanefish
Talk about an Odd Couple: Ron Paul and Ralph Nader! Don't think there's a room big enough to hold both those egos at the same time, though.
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jet
February 20, 2010 7:21 PM
Glenn Beck educated himself from socialist libraries.
He just told a story of how he pulled himself up from his bootstraps and went to the public library where books are free because no one owed him an education and he couldn't afford it. So he went out and educated himself.
What a fool.
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erica
February 21, 2010 1:05 AM in reply to jet
Really? He went to the PUBLIC library where books are free? I'm not saying you're making this story up but I'm asking for proof, and then I will laugh for three days, I promise.
On a semi-related note, a male friend of mine has a twin, and has been asked any number of times if he and his twin sister are identical. To which he replies, "Not exactly."
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Overreach THIS!
February 21, 2010 5:43 AM in reply to jet
Beck would be for privatized libraries, right? The market should control this.
There are a lot of low-cost/free/workout/night/financing options for education. Nobody paid my way, and I have three degrees.
Beck didn't get his education on his own. He was and now remains uneducated.
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Kaneblues
February 21, 2010 6:41 AM in reply to jet
As Beck has recounted it in his books and stage performances, his first attempt at self-education involved six writers that formed a strange sort of Great Books program. Beck's curriculum included books by Alan Dershowitz, Pope John Paul II, Adolf Hitler, Billy Graham, Carl Sagan, and Friedrich Nietzsche.
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Beck and Joe Lieberman were friendly throughout the '90s, until they fell out over Lieberman's refusal to back the impeachment of Bill Clinton in 1998. But before they parted ways, Lieberman would play a role in Beck's search for a worldview and identity by helping Beck enroll part-time at Yale in the fall of 1996. The ADHD-diagnosed Beck didn't last long at Yale. He took one class, "Early Christology," and dropped out.
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/23/glenn_beck_three/print.html
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labman57
February 20, 2010 7:29 PM
Alas, Ron Paul would not be able to pass the conservative movement's own purity test.
Next candidate?
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FreemanW
February 20, 2010 7:42 PM
Ron Paul and his "Free Market cures all ills" blather is just what we need in a time like this.
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FreemanW
February 20, 2010 7:43 PM
Sorry if I pegged / broke anyone's sarcasm meter.
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willia451
February 20, 2010 8:12 PM
The CPAC / Ron Paul World:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5uHbGiZE4
Yes. Just what we need.
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badsin
February 20, 2010 8:16 PM
During the primary season, there were far more RP lawn signs in the suburbs in the south eastern corner of PA and in south Jersey than other republicans (or democrats for that matter). More like far, far, far more. I really think the Republican Party Muckidee Mucks and Fox News are the only reason he did not win the primary. At least around here, he had the overwhelming momentum and support of those who were not for Barry or Hildog. I think he would have undoubtedly lost to either, but more for not shutting up when he should than for how republican voters view his positions.
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itheuser
February 20, 2010 8:40 PM
The GOP has become the Alex Jones party.
The Conservative psyche is fed by the "Prosperity Preaching" model that has served Conservatives well throughout history. Reagan understood this, and that's why he is idolized, without actually being the Conservative that he campaigned to be.
Eventually, these low information voters will found out what the word "Libertarian" means, and decide that it's too socially Liberal in practice.
Ron Paul is Libertarian minded. I wouldn't necessarily call him a Libertarian. He still has a bit of old fart religious obsession within him. Also, he has a history of race baiting in his newsletters.
Of course, as we know, candidates love to speak the individual liberty aspect while on stage. In reality, a Ron Paul type could never succeed with a purist political philosophy, and actually be the type of President that he campaigned to be.
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Max Thrax
February 20, 2010 8:42 PM
He obviously kept his mouth shut vis-a-vis his foreign policy.
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GTFOOH
February 20, 2010 8:47 PM
Mitt is so 2007!
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dweb823
February 20, 2010 9:04 PM
Assuming from what I have read that CPAC idealogues' beliefs correlate with about 20% of the U.S. electorate, then Ron Paul captures slightly less than a third of that total, or about 6%.
Hardly the base for national electoral victory!
Not to mention that the Republican party today goes into election with virtually no support from Hispanics, African Americans, most young people, gays, etc. These are not winning tactics, but hell....they know who they love.
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Max Thrax
February 20, 2010 9:11 PM
Anybody who thinks Libertarians are less insane than the average Rethug should spend some time at Reason.com. Also, take a look at the Libertarian Party platform, it's basically a plan to take the US back to the 19th century. Completely unworkable:
http://www.lp.org/platform
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ted.puffer
February 20, 2010 9:48 PM
Good to know that Ron Paul is still in the game.
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glblank
February 20, 2010 11:26 PM in reply to ted.puffer
Meaningless. The Republican party bosses will never put the party behind Paul and the vast majority of straw poll voters were 26 and younger. The base skews much older and will swamp this demographic forcing Paul to go third party again, drawing the >26 demographic with him. Couple that with a Palin Tea Party Party and we might see the beginning of the end of the GasOilPetroleum party
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lousgirl84
February 20, 2010 9:51 PM
I think ya'll will enjoy this article. Check it out
http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/mickey_edwards/2010/02/
why_im_not_at_cpac.php/?pid=ynews
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 21, 2010 8:29 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Thats a comment that speaks to the true heart of what they consider a 'conservative' now. If they wanted a new poster boy for the real true conservatism of today, they need go no further than Joe the Plumber. Fear of intellectualism of any way shape or form, blaming others for their problems,on the lookout for scapegoats and those deemed unpatriotic, fear of government unless its a program they benefit by, have no knowlwdge of the Constitution other than 1st and 2nd amendments, and have problems juggling those, practice and wage what I call Aryan Darwinism in that they feel all entitlements, to everyone be cut off whether its minorities of any stripe and ill conceal their lack of empathy for other than whites, veterans, elderly. They dont want to see public education survive yet want tax dollars for vouchers to send their kids to private schools. This guy Edwards makes some good points, but as far as his voice being lost, that's his fault for not speaking up louder. He's just another feeble enabler.
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lousgirl84
February 21, 2010 8:50 AM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
Okay!
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lousgirl84
February 21, 2010 8:52 AM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
Good moring. Up and about!!
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 21, 2010 8:56 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Hope you have a good Sunday....dont watch the political talk shows...there's no more spine in MTP!
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lousgirl84
February 21, 2010 9:13 AM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
You do the same.
I never watch the Sunday shows anymore - and especially since Gregory took over MTP. I only watch when Rachel's on since she's the only one who has anything worthwhile to say.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 21, 2010 10:09 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Gregory just lacks anything that smacks of sincere journalistic integrity. He never follows up with anything hard, and never questions any conservative tool when they blather whatever talking points...he lets them just make their case and leaves it on the table.
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Sailormarlowe
February 22, 2010 9:14 AM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
Blah, blah, blah. Nobody reads your word salad, Corporal Klinger.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 22, 2010 1:27 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
hey SailorFelchQueen...
Publish your name and address brave man..You comment in here applauding people who fly planes into United States buildings...youre a real brave person...so step up and claim who you are. You revel in the death of fellow Americans by terrorists. Stack was a terrorist. So show us who you are. Publish your name.
And believe me, if you dont ..dont you think some of these hackers in here wont find you?
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Ishmael
February 20, 2010 10:27 PM
Have to say, Ron Paul's address to the CPAC-ers was a fun little walk on the wild side. I watched it twice, once live on C-SPAN and once on YouTube. My favorite part was where Paul reached back in history to go after Woodrow Wilson (had time permitted, one can only guess his thoughts on Grover Cleveland, eh?) and then he defended Socialist Eugene Debs for protesting WWI. The reaction of the CPAC audience was priceless. Like their poor heads were on a swivel. Some cheered the notion of Debs defying Wilson. Others looked around as if to say, "But wait a minute, Debs was worse than a Democrat, he was a Socialist(!!)." Paul mentioned it a couple of times. At times Paul seemed to construed his prescription of conservatism as progressivism and visa versa -- some of the CPAC-ers looked like their heads might just explode. Got love it when one the GOP's very own ties the audiences' head in a giant mental pretzel. Paul '12. Go get 'em!
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glblank
February 20, 2010 11:30 PM in reply to Ishmael
I would wager, most were looking at each other thinking, "what the hell is he talking about?"
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Sagae
February 20, 2010 11:37 PM
I have the impression that the people who like Sarah Palin and the people who like Ron Paul are entirely different people.
Americans have always been anti-interventionist but the news media and the political parties keep getting us into foreign entanglements. World War I is a good example. I saw an obituary last year of a man who had been a draft resister in WWI and was sent to prison for it. Think of it: farm boys from upstate New York sent to fight the Kaiser.
The news media tries to throw up a lot of dust and distraction. From what I saw of Ron Paul's TV interviews, he was mostly talking about opposition to foreign entanglements and wars and he was on TV a lot. I don't believe that his supporters were hearing something other than what Ron Paul himself was talking about.
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pd
February 20, 2010 11:38 PM
It sounds like they don't know what they want or will cheer for anyone who grabs the microphone. Today they're cheering a budget minimalist who blames American interventionism for the erosion in US standing. A few days ago they cheered Dick (deficits don't matter) Cheney who wants to nuke Iran and torture anyone who like pineapple on their pizza.
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Overreach THIS!
February 21, 2010 5:48 AM in reply to pd
And I think you're on to something!
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mcjam
February 20, 2010 11:50 PM
Paul/Kucinich 2012!
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roxsteady
February 21, 2010 1:05 AM in reply to mcjam
Thanks for the laugh! Trust me neither of these 2 loons will ever be President! What a bunch of freaks!
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KeithL
February 21, 2010 8:18 AM in reply to roxsteady
To equate Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich actually, is what would be loony. Dennis may be charisma and presentation challenged, but TRY to slip below the surface for a bit and look at what they both stand for.
One of them hates the very concept of government and loves him some 19th Century "morals" and the other is a Democrat.
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georgia99
February 20, 2010 11:56 PM
So does this mean that Conservatives in general are really less Fascist than the current Republican leadership? That would be encouraging.
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georgia99
February 20, 2010 11:57 PM in reply to georgia99
What am I thinking? These are the same people who applauded Dick Cheney. I don't know what to make of it.
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georgia99
February 21, 2010 12:07 AM in reply to georgia99
Well, I guess it's just because of the number of other choices and how little difference there is between them all. He's the one that's unique, so even if his supporters are in the minority, they're the largest unified group.
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vvdinko
February 21, 2010 12:21 AM
Dude that is like the coolest thing I ever seen!
RT
www.anonymous-tools.se.tc
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happycozy
February 21, 2010 12:57 AM
Ron Paul is the least offensive of the rethugs, and I wouldn't dismiss him so quickly. If the dems are able to get the economy back on track and end the two wars, Americans (who have the the shortest attention span in the world) will fall for "the less gov't" crock that Paul preaches. Next thing you know we'll have another Republican in the White House, with a majority in congress and we'll start the whole crazy cycle over again.
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nanorich
February 21, 2010 8:43 PM in reply to happycozy
He's okay if you like racist cranks.
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roxsteady
February 21, 2010 1:04 AM
Ron Paul is a loon! He reminds me of Ross Perot without the charts! This dullard will never be President. As for his choice words for Dr King, I have 2 words for him - FUCK YOU!
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 21, 2010 8:33 AM in reply to roxsteady
cosigned.
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morriganinoregon
February 21, 2010 1:57 AM
is it just me, or does anyone else see the green on his tooth on the left side? It is [i]very[/i] noticible on the same photo on TPMs home page.
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Nancy Irving
February 21, 2010 3:10 AM
I do feel a sneaking sympathy for Mitt. I mean, does sanity now count for nothing in the conservative universe?
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Simplemind
February 21, 2010 3:21 AM
I think CPAC clearly sent a message to the Republican Party there is no room for Progressive Republicans that like to spend. (George Bush, McCain).. Or Socialist Republican wacks like Mitt Romney. Until a fresh face comes along with a clean voting record. The Founder of the Tea Party Dr. Ron Paul gets my vote.
What not don't you like about this man? Against spending, Against taxes, against abortion (his sanctity of life act would eliminate abortion with one stroke of a pen). Home Schooler's best friend..
Seeing his son Rand Paul is the Front Runner for the Senate Seat in Kentucky this could prove that Ron Paul is not a fluke. Perhaps he can run and his son could be his running mate. Paul/Paul 2012.
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FreemanW
February 21, 2010 4:54 AM in reply to Simplemind
"I think CPAC clearly sent a message to the Republican Party there is no room for Progressive Republicans that like to spend. (George Bush, McCain).. Or Socialist Republican wacks like Mitt Romney."
I think that it is marvelous how you are able to divine a clear message, a group consensus, from that dysfunctional chinese clusterfuck of xenophobic retarded fascists.
Whatever should come out of a group of people like that, if their product should win the day and achieve dominance, the whole World should be very afraid.
A Ron Paul government would be a Joe Arpaio/Milton Friedman Frankenstein creature of ruinous consequence.
The man is a certifiable lunatic.
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acamus
February 21, 2010 6:56 AM in reply to FreemanW
That in their mind Mitt is a SOCIALIST Republican only shows how scrambled their political reflections and conclusions are. These are people who believe in the unhindered capitalism, but don't think this means that a company can make them work 14 hour days without a break for $2.00 an hour, and without concern for safety or well-being of the workers. Idiots.
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Simplemind
February 21, 2010 12:30 PM in reply to acamus
Mitt Romney is a Socialist.. Remember his health care plan? Romneycare? During the debates he was planning to make it a NATIONAL PLAN. That is until Romneycare nearly bankrupted Massachusetts. And yes the Democratic Health Care plan was derived from Romneycare. You can take Mitt Romney and shove it.
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acamus
February 21, 2010 1:31 PM in reply to Simplemind
the government should be involved in health care rather than leaving it for-profit entities makes you a socialist. therefore i take you also believe that the fire department, police department, and roadway maintenance also should be given to the free market, and that those who support maintaining the current system are socialists.
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Simplemind
February 27, 2010 8:08 PM in reply to acamus
As a matter of fact I do believe the private sector could do a much better job with road maintenance, fire, ambulance, and the public school system is a mess beyond repair. Thank God for Home Schooling.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 21, 2010 8:38 AM in reply to Simplemind
I commend you on your choice of Screen Name in here. It's most befitting.
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lousgirl84
February 21, 2010 9:14 AM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
You are a caustic this am (LOL)
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Marinus van der Lubbe
February 21, 2010 7:08 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Well, he certainly isn't Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius!
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TBender
February 21, 2010 11:39 AM in reply to Simplemind
Against spending, unless it's in his district.
His ability to be "principled" on spending involves fooling people by voting against his own earmarks in bills that pass easily.
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acamus
February 21, 2010 7:08 AM
"GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio, whose firm conducted the survey, did find that 53 percent of respondents were not satisfied with the possible field of candidates -- which only helps underscore the fact that 2012 is a long way off."
http://www.salon.com/news/cpac/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/feature/2010/02/20/straw_poll_results
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glblank
February 21, 2010 9:34 AM
H Ross Paul, fizzle, fizzle, sput.
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benjoya
February 21, 2010 11:22 AM
i guess we're all on the same page, then: no more iraqs! (and by "we" i don't include the neocons who run the GOP or the neoconlites among democrats. iran makes many apparently grown legislators piss their pants for no reason. yes, i'm looking at you ackerman, you pathetic little girl.)
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Early Out
February 21, 2010 12:08 PM
Bumper sticker spotted at the local Stop 'n' Shop this morning:
"Republicans for Voldemort."
Works for me.
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acamus
February 21, 2010 1:32 PM in reply to Early Out
as long as he makes the trains run on time
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Simplemind
February 21, 2010 12:26 PM
I think Ron Paul is gaining serious ground. Have you checked the polls lately in Kentucky? His son Rand Paul is now the front runner in the Senate race..
Ron Paul/Rand Paul 2012
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FreemanW
February 21, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to Simplemind
Fortunately, Kentucky has only 8 electoral votes.
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philogratis
February 21, 2010 3:08 PM
The main interest in this poll is not Ron Paul's presidential chances, but the fragmentation of the conservative activist base. There plenty of room for disagreement between fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and foreign policy hawk., Many libertarians have never been enthusiastic about Bush's imperial ventures or gay-bashing, which basically every other candidate in the straw poll supports.
That is to say, there are a bunch of religious social conservative candidates (Palin, Huckabee, Santorum, Gingrich), and the centrist candidates like Romney and Pawlenty always pay lip service to these themes.
If this poll tells us anything, it's that libertarians have soured on the establishment Republican party.
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GTFOOH
February 21, 2010 3:30 PM
This is what happens when you invite tea baggers to a keg party!
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dndobson
February 21, 2010 3:53 PM
I think the 24% turnout is the story here - if they vote like that in real elections, it shouldn't matter who their candidate is.
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Tosh
June 6, 2010 2:40 AM
Er, more coffee please…
100 less 86, is only 14% - not 24%. Still, I wonder who [or what] divided the remaining responses. 14% is still a significant shortfall, falling behind only Representative Ron Paul and Governor Mitt Romney. Are these the 'undecided' or 'no preference' voters?
m65 kamagra
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