
Democrats are pushing back against Republican indignation over the potential path the House will use to pass health care reform this week. Despite Republicans insisting the "deem and pass" tactic is totally unprecedented, it's a maneuver the GOP should actually be familiar with.
The Democratic National Committee sends over a 2006 article from Roll Call with stats showing how the Republicans actually "set new records" for writing House floor rules that allow leadership to pass their bills with an easier path.
The article shows that this year Democrats are actually using a smaller percentage of rules that fall into this category than Republicans used when they were in charge under former President George W. Bush.
Rank-and-file members are being told not to engage with Republicans on debates about process. Democratic leadership sent members a memo obtained by TPMDC warning that procedural tactics are "inside baseball" and defending against them won't help them politically.
But to get down to basics, House leadership is considering several options in hopes of giving their members the easiest route to pass health care reform. They haven't made a final decision yet, but as Brian detailed here earlier Rules Committee Chair Louise Slaughter and Speaker Nancy Pelosi would prefer to use what's known as a "self-executing rule."
Simply put, that would allow the Democrats to take just one vote instead of two on the Senate health care bill and a reconciliation fix passage that makes changes to the things the House doesn't like in the Senate measure. Leadership aides tell TPMDC the House does not have the votes to pass the Senate plan, so this complicated rule might actually help them get health care over that final hurdle.
Still, the Republicans are crying foul, with conservative bloggers calling the process "wreckonciliation" and portraying the possibility as without precedent. But the facts prove that wrong.
Democratic leadership aides sent around this piece from Time's Karen Tumulty about Rules Committee ranking Republican Rep. David Dreier complaints. Tumulty crowns Dreier (R-CA) the king of using the procedure, dubbing it in fact, the "Dreier Doctrine."
That hasn't stopped Republicans from giving the potential tactic to consider the Senate bill as having passed without a vote the scary name of the "Slaughter Solution."
From the Roll Call piece, written June 19, 2006:
Former House GOP Rules Committee Chief Of Staff Don Wolfensberger: Republicans "Set New Records" For Using Self-Executing Rule.Self-executing rules began innocently enough in the 1970s as a way of making technical corrections to bills. But, as the House became more partisan in the 1980s, the majority leadership was empowered by its caucus to take all necessary steps to pass the party's bills. This included a Rules Committee that was used more creatively to devise procedures to all but guarantee policy success.
The self-executing rule was one such device to make substantive changes in legislation while ensuring majority passage. ... When Republicans took power in 1995, they soon lost their aversion to self-executing rules and proceeded to set new records under Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.).
There were 38 and 52 self-executing rules in the 104th and 105th Congresses (1995-1998), making up 25 percent and 35 percent of all rules, respectively.
Under Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) there were 40, 42 and 30 self-executing rules in the 106th, 107th and 108th Congresses (22 percent, 37 percent and 22 percent, respectively). Thus far in the 109th Congress, self-executing rules make up about 16 percent of all rules."
The Democrats also point to Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution, telling the Washington Post the "deem and pass" move isn't so unusual. For example, it was used to ban smoking on domestic airline flights, Mann told the Post.
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Schmed
March 16, 2010 11:23 AM
Crocodile tears? Boo.Fucking.Hoo
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Ann Arbor
March 16, 2010 11:33 AM
Too many facts. Just dismiss the complaints. A simple "Nonsense, they did it all the time" will suffice
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ondioline
March 16, 2010 12:17 PM in reply to Ann Arbor
I agree... This stuff is candy for those of us who like being "in the weeds" on procedure and rules and other "inside baseball" stuff, but to most folks, the central concern is who's getting something done? Who's lying and who's telling the truth? How does it impact me, my family, my budget, my job, my dinner table? It is great to be backed up with the facts, but it is even better to have a simple, direct, concise response that voters can remember and understand.
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Cal Gal
March 16, 2010 1:16 PM in reply to Ann Arbor
I agree, too. Just say, "this was SOP when the ReThugs ran the House." If you want to say a little more, just say "It was Ronald Reagan who invented reconciliation" and let the ReThugs try to defend their patron saint's record.
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Docb
March 16, 2010 2:39 PM in reply to Ann Arbor
Desparate and foolish when the record is there...Of course the trick is to get the MSM to report it!
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Radha
March 16, 2010 12:01 PM
Hey, I just posted a diary over at DailyKos, on the very same issue: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/16/846716/-Self-Executing-RuleConference-Report-passage,-given-Rethug-Recalcitrance
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bdtex
March 16, 2010 12:07 PM
Excellent. Nice catch Christina.
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Richard L. Adlof
March 16, 2010 12:23 PM
Thank you. I have been screaming at the TV screen about this for months.
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DKDC
March 16, 2010 12:56 PM
And don't just forge ahead and not engage Republicans on "process" arguments - use it against them. the reason they are trying so hard to make this about process is they are scared to death of what's going to happen if and when the bill passes - their outraged supporters will feel betrayed and turn their anger on the Republicans for not stopping the bill. That's why they want to lay out the meme that they couldn't because of Dem "tricks."
So pass the bill by whatever means necessary, and when Republicans complain about the process just shrug and say I guess Republicans are too weak and stupid to get anything done - OK, maybe wordsmith that a little, but you get the point...
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jsdc007
March 16, 2010 1:14 PM
Amen.
You gotta fight Visigoths and Huns and Bitch McConnell with guns, not roses.
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we r all husseins
March 16, 2010 5:48 PM in reply to jsdc007
On behalf of Visigoths and Huns, I find the association with McConnell to be greatly offensive.
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Peter Principle
March 16, 2010 1:42 PM
Other than keeping the teabaggers in a rabid, foaming frenzy, the process issues aren't going to matter much after the vote -- and even less in November.
Dems need to worry about the politics of the bill itself. Or as Butch Cassidy says to the Sundance Kid as he tries to talk him into jumping off a cliff:
"Drown? Hell, the fall will probably kill ya."
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George C
March 16, 2010 2:14 PM
You know what's really tiresome? Waiting for the main stream media to start using the word "lying" when they report the Repub memes on this stuff. Some things, of course, are a matter of opinion. But this process (and reconciliation, for that matter) were either used commonly before or they weren't. And if they were, the Repub argument that this is a shocking invention by the Dems is nothing more or less than a lie. Sigh.
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LFC
March 16, 2010 4:06 PM
Republicans in the Majority: "We'll use knives, swords, maces, clubs..."
Republicans in the Minority: "WAAAAAHHHH! They're using knives!!!"
What a bunch of whining pu$$ies.
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GTFOOH
March 16, 2010 5:25 PM
...elbow deep!
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we r all husseins
March 16, 2010 5:54 PM
As I said in comment on this story yesterday, Republicans are in a tizzy because the rules changes they instituted are biting them in the ass and there's nothing they can do about it. So as I said yesterday:
Sucks to be you Republicans!
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Matt Jones
March 16, 2010 6:29 PM
The cycle isn't really complete, though, until we get Newt himself on Faux News dissing the maneuver. Any bets on how long *that* will take? I give it about another couple hours.
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March 17, 2010 10:51 AM
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Tosh
June 6, 2010 7:54 PM
And don't just forge ahead and not engage Republicans on "process" arguments - use it against them. the reason they are trying so hard to make this about process is they are scared to death of what's going to happen if and when the bill passes - their outraged supporters will feel betrayed and turn their anger on the Republicans for not stopping the bill. That's why they want to lay out the meme that they couldn't because of Dem "tricks."
So pass the bill by whatever means necessary, and when Republicans complain about the process just shrug and say I guess Republicans are too weak and stupid to get anything done - OK, maybe wordsmith that a little, but you get the point...
m65 kamagra
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