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Former Senate Parliamentarian: 'I Would Never Use The Term Illegitimate With Regard To Reconciliation' (VIDEO)


Former Senate Parliamentarian Robert Dove

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The man who served as Senate parliamentarian on and off from 1981-2001 has news for Senate Republicans, who say the Democrats are way out on a limb using the majority-vote budget reconciliation process to amend health care legislation.

"Reconciliation has been used a lot," said Robert Dove on MSNBC this morning. "And I would never use the term illegitimate with regard to reconciliation."

"It has been used starting in 1980 for very large, major bills. And it is a way, of course, of getting around the problem of the Senate filibuster," Dove went on.

In the mid-1980s, the Senate adopted the Byrd rule, which placed restrictions on what measures can pass through reconciliation, but in recent years, it has been used to pass major entitlement and tax reforms, including multi-trillion dollar Bush tax cuts.

However, decisions about what does and does not conform to the Byrd rule is ultimately not up to the parliamentarian. The parliamentarian's job is to advise the Senate chair--a.k.a. the Vice President--who gets to make the final decision.

"Ultimately it's the Vice President of the United States...It is the decision of the Vice President whether or not to play a role here.... And I have seen Vice President play that role in other very important situations," Dove said, noting that in most cases, the veep defers to his adviser. "I will say that not since Hubert Humphrey have I seen a Vice President try to play that kind of role in the Senate."

These facts will almost certainly come into play soon. Democrats are gearing up to use the budget reconciliation process to pass some changes to the Senate health care bill. Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin acknowledged this morning that Republicans are simply not going to provide Democrats a single vote, and Democrats will have to go it alone.

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March 1, 2010 12:32 PM   

It's not message fail if the only place this guy in interviewed on MSNBC.

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March 1, 2010 12:44 PM   

It would be interesting to know what are the particulars to his referral to Hubert Humphrey. Does anyone know what they are?

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March 1, 2010 1:15 PM    in reply to nancydenis

Humphrey is the last Veep who had the kind of deep roots and clout in the Senate like Biden. Humphrey, like Biden, understood the intricacies of the Senate rules and used them effectively as VP/President of the Senate.

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March 1, 2010 1:14 PM   

The VP makes the decision on what qualifies for Reconciliation? And the Public Option has not been passed via this method, why?

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March 1, 2010 1:19 PM    in reply to Isepick

Because they don't have 50 votes.

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March 1, 2010 6:10 PM    in reply to Isepick

1. The VPOTUS usually isn't at the Senate very often. In all seriousness, they'd have to call Biden over to do it.
2. They may not have the votes to muster 51 even if they get Biden over there.
3. When the Parliamentarian's advice is ignored there can be unintended procedural consequences in the future. Yes, the presiding officer can ignore what the Parliamentarian says, but they do so at their own peril.

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March 1, 2010 1:54 PM   

@ Ken Conrad

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March 1, 2010 2:21 PM   

Like everything else, IOKIYAR.

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March 1, 2010 3:01 PM   

It's just that the damn petard hoisting is so darn painful...

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March 1, 2010 7:02 PM   

Robert Dove, prepare to be run over by bus. The repubs shit on everything that proves without a doubt that they're wrong or exposes them. Including even the military Generals they used to rely on. They're despicable.

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