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Is Russ Feingold In Trouble This Fall?


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Three recent polls -- each not without its critics -- show Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) trailing in a hypothetical match up with former Wisconsin governor and Bush administration cabinet member Tommy Thompson (R). He hasn't decided whether he'll seek the GOP nomination yet, but is rumored to be seriously considering it.

If he does, polling suggests Thompson could depose one of the strongest progressive voices in the Senate. With the two latest polls added in, the TPM Poll Average for the race shows Thompson leading Feingold by a margin of 46-42.8.

Media reports have picked up on the polls, painting the picture of an incumbent on the ropes. The Feingold campaign rejects that assertion outright, claiming that the polls are the problem, not the Senator.

Feingold's slide began in January, according to the TPM average. On the 26th, Rasmussen released a poll showing Thompson ahead 47-43. The margin held in Rasmussen's second poll of the race, which came on Feb. 17.

Rasmussen has many critics among progressive and Democratic communities, which claim that the pollster's proprietary model for determining likely voters skews results toward the GOP. Rasmussen has dismissed those claims and defended its results as more accurate than other pollsters.

Last week, the conservative think tank Wisconsin Policy Research Institute confirmed the Rasmussen results, showing Thompson ahead in the hypothetical match up 51-39. A WPRI poll from last October also showed Thompson ahead 43-39.

WPRI does not include cell phones in its polling, according to the group's polling releases, a decision that some experts say tilts results away from younger voters, who more and more do not have land line phones. And in recent days, the institute has been the subject of media reports suggesting its pollster slanted results to support WPRI's policy aims. Further aggravating Democrats in the state, the firm is run by two ex-Thompson aides. WPRI has said its polls are accurate.

"First off, neither Rasmussen or WPRI are credible polls," Feingold strategist John Kraus told me in an email conversation this afternoon. "There will be a lot of polls between now and Election Day eight months from now."

The data from all the polls suggests that Thompson's singular role in Wisconsin, a state he governed for 14 years before becoming Health and Human Services secretary in 2001, could be playing a role in that result. When matched up against another potential GOP opponent, developer Terrence Wall, Feingold is ahead.

The only bright spot for Feingold in polling against Thompson came from the Democratic firm PPP, which reported Feingold ahead of Thompson in its survey of a hypothetical match up in November. That poll showed Feingold leading Thompson by 50-41.

Kraus also said that regardless of what they say, polls aren't his main concern. "Our focus will not be on polls and horserace politics," he said. "It will be on continuing to build a strong grassroots campaign that is organizing people in every corner of the state."

He declined to answer when I asked if the campaign saw Thompson as the Feingold's biggest threat. "No matter who the Republican Party puts forward in September, we will continue to talk with voters face-to-face about Russ' record of independence and his hard work to move our state forward." Kraus said.

Kraus told me the campaign is already in full swing, and laying the groundwork for what could be a tough race. "We are doing our fourth statewide canvass this weekend in 57 communities across the state while Thompson makes plans for an exploratory committee," he said, referring to Thompson's early steps into the race announced last week.

"Unlike any of our current or potential opponents, we have been tested," Kraus said. "We are ready."

Late Update: NRSC spokesperson Brian Walsh responded to the Feingold camp's take on the recent polling.

"It's interesting that the Feingold campaign would dismiss these polls while at the same time they've already started attacking Governor Thompson publicly," he said. "The reality is that they know, as we do, that Senator Feingold is vulnerable because his record of supporting the failed stimulus, supporting government run health care, and supporting more rights for captured terrorists stands at odds with a majority of voters in his state."

"Whether its Governor Thompson or someone else who Republican voters choose as their candidate," he added, "we believe that this will be a very competitive race in November."

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March 16, 2010 4:08 PM   

It's 4 points. No need for pants wetting.

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March 16, 2010 4:10 PM   

Is Russ Feingold In Trouble This Fall?
Only if he votes for Obamacare...oops...

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March 16, 2010 4:18 PM    in reply to SFCWallace

Get over it. You lost.

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March 16, 2010 4:47 PM    in reply to SFCWallace

Tell you what. We need an amendment to the bill. We'll carve out a special class for people like you. In that class insurance companies will be able to jack up your rates on a whim, increase your co-pays, increase your deductibles, increase your out-of-pockets, deny any prescription because it costs to much, drop you OR your child should their illness just cost to much, or impose annual caps, or even just drop you because they feel like it.

Will that make you feel better?

You'll benefit from this legislation, but you'll be to much of a coward to admit it.

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March 16, 2010 5:23 PM    in reply to billybam

Save your special deals. Sergeant First Class Wallace benefits from socialized medicine, courtesy of the US government and his military retirement.

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March 17, 2010 9:46 AM    in reply to mrut

mrut,

I always suspect that people who use military references in their posting names were never in the military.

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March 17, 2010 9:34 AM    in reply to billybam

Yes, he Indie Pro, Jorge Orwell and all the rest who complain about the bill

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March 16, 2010 8:40 PM    in reply to SFCWallace

Whatever you say there Specialist

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March 16, 2010 4:17 PM   

Tommy Thompson was a terrible Governor for Wisconsin when he was there, so I don’t think people would want him back as their Senator other than dye in the wool Republicans.

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March 16, 2010 4:33 PM    in reply to bw

Didn't he say a whole bunch of crazy/potentially damaging things when he was running in the Republican primary for President?

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March 16, 2010 4:30 PM   

Yyeah... Rassmussen + "a conservative think tank"? Feingold shouldn't take anything for granted but I don't think this really tells us anything until we see something from a pollster without partisan leanings.

As I understand the problem with Rassmussen isn't that their numbers are fake or anything, it's that they use a likely voter model that assumes Republicans are much more likely to vote than Democrats. So at any time the Rassmussen is accurately giving you a picture of how the Republican base feels about such and such a thing.

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March 16, 2010 4:37 PM   

Well I guess the Repubs in this state would vote for Tommy the Terrible Governor. Now that he's had several years of lobbying experience under his belt, he's in a unique position to sell out his constituents interest to corporate America.
And we know how these guys love to vote against their own best interests.

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March 16, 2010 4:40 PM   

Although I haven't lived there for 17 years, I have a better than average feel for Wisconsin politics. It is about as close to a 50-50 state as there is. They like politicians who are independent-minded and Feingold fits that mold. Put it this way, my mom votes for him even though she doesn't agree with most of his positions. She just likes that he is intelligent, works hard, votes his mind, is visible in the state and always trying to act in the best interest of the people of Wisconsin.

Russ will out-work Tommy and that will matter. Russ will out-debate Tommy, and that will matter too. Russ holds office so he can do positive, visible things this year to get lauded back home. Plus, Tommy wants a positive legacy. His attempt to gain the Republican Presidential nomination fell flat. Does he want the last thing he does in politics to be losing to Russ Feingold? I doubt it. For now, Tommy likes the publicity but I'd put the likelihood of him jumping in at only 50-50.

Feingold will get between 50 and 53% of the vote regardless of his opponent. That's just Wisconsin. Is he "in trouble"? No more than any Democrat or Republican in a state-wide race in Wisconsin. That is just the nature of representing a 50-50 state.

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March 17, 2010 9:37 AM    in reply to PeninsulaMatt

Good post. Is your Mom an independent or a republican? She sounds like the responsible voter this country could use more of. I don't know anything about Wisconsin politics but I have a feeling Feingold will do very well especially against Thompson.

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March 16, 2010 4:46 PM   

Tommy Thompson brought Illinois-style "pay-to-play" corruption to Wisconsin. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel was one of the few newspapers to report on this in the 1998 election. TPM may want to dig out those stories and dust them off. It gives the race a whole new look.

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March 16, 2010 4:53 PM    in reply to AlphaLiberal

It was a series of stories and may have run actually run in 1997.

And here is Tommy while drunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TmtP82EjE8
"Tommy Thompson from the great state of Wiscons"

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March 16, 2010 5:17 PM    in reply to AlphaLiberal

Here is a sampling of Tommy G. Thompson's corruption.

http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=2102

God Bless The Isthmus.

Yes, I could do this all day and just scratch the surface! Will Tommy Thompson be allowed to bury his corrupt past in the age of New Media?

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March 16, 2010 5:00 PM   

Oh yes. And not only did Tommy Thompson blow off Wisconsin to serve George Bush and Dick "Duck" Cheney as their HHS Secretary, but he then cashed in on his experience in the health care corporate sector, winning contracts to treat the 9/11 workers that the same Bush-Cheney Administration lied to regarding health risks.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/tommy-thompson-911/

The contract awarded by the Centers for Disease Control is aimed at tracking the health of between 4,000 and 6,000 workers who live outside the New York City area, where a separate health monitoring program is in place. The CDC is part of the Health and Human Services Department, which Thompson headed in Bush’s first term.

Internal e-mails obtained by The Associated Press show that the one-year contract went to Logistics Health, Inc., a La Crosse, Wis.-based company where Thompson is president.


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March 16, 2010 5:09 PM    in reply to AlphaLiberal

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March 16, 2010 5:14 PM    in reply to AlphaLiberal

And, I'll take "What Governor did Felon Nick Hurtgen serve before and after leaving state government for a please deal, please."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/02/hurtgen-pleads-guilty-in-pay-to-play-scheme.html

Hurtgen was cutting sweetheart deals with Bear Steans while he was still working for Tommy Thompson. He is also related to Phil Prange, one of Tommy Thompsons' "Cabana Boys" (yes, that's right) and a very wealthy Wisconsin family.

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March 16, 2010 5:18 PM    in reply to AlphaLiberal

er, that's Dick "Dick" Cheney.

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March 16, 2010 5:08 PM   

If Russ Feingold is in trouble, then the country is toast. He has more integrity than 95% of the people in Congress. If we had more guys like him we wouldn't be in the mess we're in.

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March 16, 2010 6:53 PM    in reply to xargaw

it's 4 points and the election is 7 months away.

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March 16, 2010 5:42 PM   

Don't forget to look at the Bear Stearns no-bid contracts under Tommy Thompson. Miller Park.

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March 16, 2010 5:57 PM   

Could depend on turn out. Lotta rural 'sconsinites are as redneck as any you'll find in some southern regions. Feingold has been in favor of a PO, but may be hesitant to use reconciliation.

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March 16, 2010 5:59 PM   

Eric Schultz, please, oh please try to beat Feingold by going after his vote for the economic stimulus or healthcare reform. The moderates in Wisconsin will not be fooled by your fear-mongering ways.

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March 16, 2010 6:26 PM   

We the lefty bloggers of the Cheddarsphere have been working on documenting Tommmy!'s apparent bid. He won't even announce until the Republican convention in May, and if he does, he'll have a lot of 'splainin' to do. He's been a powerful lobbyist for one of D.C.'s biggest firms. He sits on several corporate boards, and has made millions of dollars from it. Just as John McCain can't tell you how many houses he has, Tommy! can't tell you how many corporations he serves. And we're still digging out from the budget mess that he left us with.

Tommy! the attention whore will try, try, try. But Senator Feingold can beat him.

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March 16, 2010 6:33 PM    in reply to haaz

It makes me irrationally happy to learn there is something called the "Cheddarsphere"

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March 16, 2010 7:08 PM   

I've lived here in Wisconsin for decades so I fancy myself as having a little insight. The ONLY thing Thompson has going for him is a sort of Reaganesque mythology. The Right, much of the muddled middle and almost all of the media have this air-brushed image of him as a decent guy who was a great governor and a good federal administrator, all of which is far removed from reality. Feingold likes to keep his campaign on the high road, so he won't touch Tommy's baggage, but there are Lefty PACs here that won't be so kind. Thompson will be in his 70s, while Feingold's still in his 50s, and that's going to hurt Thompson, too.

On the other side, the last time Feingold ran he got more votes than any candidate in any race in the history of Wisconsin. Feingold has stood independently, so the Rushlicans won't be able to bring out the birthers/tenthers/deathers/teabaggers against him. He's actually won awards for being such a budget hawk, so they can't tag him with the tax-and-spend meme. He's long been pro-gunner on Second Amendment issues, and the gun owners know it, so they won't be able to activate the gun lobby (which is powerful here, as about 50% of us own guns). The only wing of the single-issue fringe they'll be able to activate will be the anti-choice crowd, and they've tried that -- and failed -- a number of times now.

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March 16, 2010 8:30 PM   

Here's a piece i wrote the first time Tommy ran for preznit, and resurected the second time: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/a/m/americandad/2007/04/president-tommy-thompson-gop-s.php

Here's an issue-by-issue taken down of Tommy's tenure: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/a/m/americandad/2006/08/tommy-thompsons-reform-for-med.php

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March 16, 2010 8:39 PM   

Feingold is a terrific closer but he'll never win a landslide. The Democrats will need to nuke Thompson like they have nuked Dan Coats in Indiana for all the lobbying. But if they can make Brad Ellsworth competitive in Indiana, they can make Feingold a winner again in Wisconsin.

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March 16, 2010 8:44 PM   

528 has him ranked as 16% probability of losing his seat and Rasmussen polls a consistent average of +6 for Republican candidates. So, yawn to this story. They had him losing the last cycle which he won by damn near 20.

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March 17, 2010 2:51 AM   

The highest percentage of the vote Feingold has gotten was 55 percent, his other two victories were 51 and 53 percent. It's not like he was every beloved. Feingold can easily be beaten in November, especially with his votes on Health Care, Cap and Trade, the Stimulus, etc. He's far too liberal for even Wisconsin. So all it will take is a credible candidate to go up against him. I think Thomson can esily beat Feingold in November.

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March 17, 2010 10:39 AM    in reply to JD

Huh. That must be why, in his most recent run, Feingold got more votes than ANY candidate (including Thompson in his runs for governor) in the history of Wisconsin.

Let's take a look at the margins of victory. He beat Kasten by 7 percentage points, 53% to 46%. That's not even close.

The next race, in which he capped his own campaign spending and refused ads from outsiders -- including the DNC -- was closer, and he won by just 2 percentage points, 51% to 49%.

In his most recent race, however, he crused Tim Michaels by 12 percentage points, 56% to 44%. Not only did he win by a landslide, not only did he get the most votes in state history, he also raised nearly $11 million, 90% of it from individuals. Even counties that voted for Bush instead of Obama voted FOR Feingold.

And, no, Wisconsin is not a 50-50 party ID state. The current Gallup numbers put us at 48% Democrat and 37% Republican. Obama's approval rating here is higher than the national average, and nearly reaches 58%.

That "too liberal for Wisconsin" tune youre singing as been sung by every opponent, including Dem primary opponents the first time around, and it's fallen flat every single time.

You can't tag him as "tax and spend liberal," because Citizens Against Government Waste, the Concord Coalition, and Taxpayers for Common Sense, three nonpartisan organizations dedicated to those causes, have repeatedly commended him. This is the guy who refuses his own salary raises and returns them to the federal treasury. This is the guy who returns money from his office budget each year to the treasury (since 1993, Feingold has returned $3.2 million from his office budget). This is the guy who, In addition to fighting earmarks (and refusing to ask for them) and leading on campaign finance reform, has advocated ending automatic cost of living allowances for Congressmen and instituting pay-as you-go rules that require the government to actually fund the things on which it spends. This is the guy who recently introduced the Control Spending Now Act, legislation to reduce the deficit by more than one half trillion dollars. This is the guy who: prohibited his staff from allowing lobbyists to pay for lunch, or even from taking refreshments at Capitol Hill receptions; has relentlessly pursued campaign finance reform hated by incumbents in both parties; and who pushed a bill through Cogress that sets a $50 limit on gifts to Senators. He also, by the way, oted against Bush’s $700 billion Big Bank bailout. His list of budget-cutting proposal and accomplisments is really too long to post here.

You can't tag him as a "anti-Second Amendment liberal," because he's solidly pro-Second Amendment, including voting against extention of the Federal ban on semi-automatic firearms and voting for allowing airline pilots to carry firearms in cockpits. He even sided with the conservative majority of the Senate and signed the Congressional amicus in District of Columbia v. Heller, asserting the individual right to bear arms.

The abortion card won't play, either, because a majority in the state remains pro-choice and only 4% say they are single-issue voters on abortion. Feingold is were the people of Wisconsin are.

Tell me again about his narrow victories and how he's too liberal

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March 17, 2010 3:35 AM   

It would be nice if some lefty media folk like Markos or PPP again did some polling on this hypothetical to counter the right wing spin...

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March 17, 2010 10:18 AM   

Tommy Thompson is the political Brett Favre of Wisconsin.
He and (his nutty) brother play a "will he run won't he run" game
every year for Gov., Senator and I fail to understand the obsession
with him in this state. I have lived here 11 years and Tommy is like
Reagan....They remember him so fondly, but if you look at the details
he was an awful Governor.

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July 5, 2010 1:58 PM   

Russ will out-work Tommy and that will matter. Russ will out-debate Tommy, and that will matter too. Russ holds office so he can do positive, visible things this year to get lauded back home. Plus, Tommy wants a positive legacy. His attempt to gain the Republican Presidential nomination fell flat. Does he want the last thing he does in politics to be losing to Russ Feingold? I doubt it. For now, Tommy likes the publicity but I'd put the likelihood of him jumping in at only 50-50.

Feingold will get between 50 and 53% of the vote regardless of his opponent. That's just Wisconsin. Is he "in trouble"? No more than any Democrat or Republican in a state-wide race in Wisconsin. That is just the nature of representing a 50-50 state.


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