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Little Progress As Dems Hash Out Health Care Plan


Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)

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White House health care adviser Nancy-Ann DeParle gave House Democrats a complete walk through of the President's proposed fixes to the Senate health care bill at a caucus meeting this morning, fielding questions, particularly from progressives upset about the White House's failure to endorse a public option. But the Congressional Budget Office has yet to weigh in on the plan, so the waiting game continues. And some members, eager to get health care off their plates and out of the headlines, are getting nervous.

"It wasn't the big moment that I think when the all points bulletin went out last night that I think some people thought it was going to be," Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) told reporters as the meeting let out.

"There wasn't any more clarity on the tick tock of the process, which is obviously, you know, a deal breaker for some people," Weiner added.

The reconciliation bill itself, Weiner said, will likely bee less than 100 pages, and will be released at least a week before it comes to the floor for a vote. If that's correct, it means the House will not be able to act before March 18--the date the White House wants them to press ahead.

"I don't think we're gonna do it by the 18th," Weiner said. He was echoed by Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD). "I think you've seen a lot of commentary that that's pushing it," Van Hollen told reporters.

The wait continues.

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March 11, 2010 1:16 PM   

Why does it have to be released a week before it comes to the floor?

I am not sure what is happening with the tick tock either.

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March 11, 2010 1:32 PM    in reply to Maritza

Yeah, why do we have to see what's in this monstrosity before it's voted on, congress doesn't.

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March 11, 2010 1:17 PM   

Is this the President's fixes or is this the hash out between the House and Senate that Pelosi has been saying is very close?

I am not understanding the reporting.

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March 11, 2010 1:23 PM    in reply to Maritza

It's not real reporting. It's just dressing up the latest utterance from an attention-whore congressman and pasting yet another "health care is doomed" headline over it. Pretty much TPMDC's MO since the Massachussets election.

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March 11, 2010 2:48 PM    in reply to felix

I thought TPM was a "progressive" website. Why would there be a "HCR is doomed" bias?

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March 11, 2010 4:23 PM    in reply to Joffen

Same reason they post Rasmussen polls prominently.

What the motivation is, I don't know. Liberal pussiness perhaps.

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March 11, 2010 6:22 PM    in reply to darkrhyme

Yet more anti-Rasmussen bullshit. For some reason whenever morons on the left(sorry for the redundance)blast Rasmussen, they never seem to answer the question as to why he is considered one of the most accurate pollsters there is if he is so biased and his polls are such shit. Dems just don't like him because his polls are not the same as the bogus media polls that have 15%+ advantages for Dems in the poll sample.

Get back to me when Rasmussen becomes as inaccurate as Research 2000.

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March 11, 2010 6:24 PM    in reply to Joffen

Because they report the truth. It has always fucking amazed me that people would rather be blissfully ignorant such ignorance is played to by ideological conformists rather than told the truth of the matter. The amount of times I have read posts about people whining when they are told the improbability of the bill passing is amazing. Do you want this site to only run good news that makes you personally feel good? Evidently so.

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March 11, 2010 1:35 PM   

Set em up to knock em down

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March 11, 2010 1:36 PM   

Does anyone admit that only 42% of you want this piece of crap?

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March 11, 2010 2:00 PM    in reply to BMK

Same old thing we saw in 1993. Pump enough insurance money onto the airwaves and people dislike a good plan. Both times support for "hypothetical" plans that are just like the real ones hugely outstripped support for the legislation itself.

In other words, the polls don't show that people don't want what this bill will do. They only show that people don't want what they think it'll do, which is demonstrably different from reality.

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March 11, 2010 2:07 PM    in reply to BMK

As of yesterday from Gallup:

For: 45%

Against: 48%

No opinion: 7%

Margin of error: +/- 4%

The #1 response of supporters (29% of those that favor) do so on moral grounds (closer to universal coverage; more people covered).

The #1 response of those against (20% of those against) do so because they believe reform will lead to higher premiumns for them personally.

There is little evidence to suggest that ideology plays a significant role in whether or not a person is for or against the specific proposed reform bills.

Any way you look at it, its about evenly split, one way or the other.

And actual knowledge by the public on the specifics of the proposals is weak at best.

The "42%" you cite is not supported by the evidence.

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March 11, 2010 4:13 PM    in reply to willia451

Doing nothing is not an option. Insurance companies will raise rates unless we reign them in.

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March 11, 2010 6:19 PM    in reply to willia451

And you cite all of one poll. Wow. Just thought you would like to know that the last Gallup Poll on healthcare, taken at the beginning of January had more people favoring reform than opposed by 49%-46%. The RealClearPolitics poll average (an average that doesn't include bogus internet polls) has the support averaging 41%. Is that evidence enough for you?

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March 11, 2010 2:13 PM   

These political dunces will drag this on till November. Then they'll wonder why no Democrat voters are showing up at the polls.

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March 11, 2010 3:13 PM    in reply to jsdc007

Virtually no Democrat voters will show up at the polls. But millions of Democratic voters will.

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March 11, 2010 4:28 PM   

Worthless.

I'm a capitalist. I think doctors and hospitals and pharmaceuticals and medical device makers should be able to make a profit. They deliver needed goods and services.

But health "insurers?" Their fucking inherent conflict of interest is killing the shit out of people. Fuck them. They have no rationale for existence save death and greed.

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March 11, 2010 5:48 PM    in reply to darkrhyme

I get your point. But let's face it - insurers are Dudley Do-Right next to the conflict of interest presented by PhRMA and medical device manufacturers.

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June 13, 2010 4:20 AM   

The #1 response of supporters (29% of those that favor) do so on moral grounds (closer to universal coverage; more people covered).

The #1 response of those against (20% of those against) do so because they believe reform will lead to higher premiumns for them personally.

There is little evidence to suggest that ideology plays a significant role in whether or not a person is for or against the specific proposed reform bills.

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