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Rep. Steve King (R-IA) is calling for a new procedural solution to stop the health care bill: Have an angry mob of citizens storm Washington and prevent Congress from acting, in imitation of the Velvet Revolution that overthrew communist rule in Czechoslovakia!

The Huffington Post interviewed King after his speech at today's "Code Red" anti-health care bill rally, a speech in which he called upon the crowd to "Storm this city, fill up Washington D.C., jam this capital so they can't move."

Speaking to the Huffington Post shortly after his speech, King declared that a peaceful uprising, a la the successful overthrowing of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia on the streets of Prague in 1989 "would be fine with me."

"Fill this city up, fill this city, jam this place full so that they can't get in, they can't get out and they will have to capitulate to the will of the American people," he said.

"So this is just like Prague under communist rule?" the Huffington Post asked.

"Oh yeah, it is very, very close," King replied. "It is the nationalization of our liberty and the federal government taking our liberty over. So there are a lot of similarities there."

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March 16, 2010 5:45 PM   

I'd save up the tapes of all these comments from Republicans, then play them back later when the bill is passed and people start seeing the benefits.

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March 16, 2010 6:35 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

How about we play those tapes at their trial for treason instead?

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March 16, 2010 9:34 PM    in reply to hunter

Co-sign. The lawfully elected government of the United States should come down on him and Bachmann and all the others advocating treason like the righteous fucking hammer of God.

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March 16, 2010 11:13 PM    in reply to Isepick

"It is the nationalization of our liberty . . . ."

Gee -- wouldn't that be a good thing?

And didn't that already happen with the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

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March 17, 2010 1:58 AM    in reply to JNagarya

Certainly with the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments!

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March 18, 2010 8:30 AM    in reply to slb

There is a progressive Dem, Mike Denklau, running against King in western Iowa.

http://denklauforcongress.com/about.html

The DCCC crowd doesn't like his odds, but the more King posits his manic ravings, the more Iowans jump off that teachugger's rubber-ruddered ship.

King's staffers keep a keg of orange pekoe handy for those spontaneous astroturf moments.

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March 17, 2010 1:04 PM    in reply to Isepick

Hey Isepick,

Just an fyi;
Under Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution, in order for a bill to be presented to the President for signature, the bill ”shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate.” 

and;
Our Declaration of Independence observes:
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

It IS Constitutional. In fact required.

You might have payed closer attention in poly sci. instead of sleeping in class as you apparently did. You need to learn the constitution, and how it works, As do most of the democrat party.

LOL!!

Silly progressive libratard dumbocrats."-)

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March 17, 2010 2:01 PM    in reply to voted against carter

"Deem and Pass" is an up-or0-down vote that just adds resolutions for consideration by the other house. The President still has to sign the original Senate legislation, which went through Cloture and passed in the Senate and is now being passed by the House, before he can sign the reconciliation amendments which are being voted on by the House at the same time (hence the term "deem AND pass") and still require a separate up-or-down vote in the Senate. The US Court Of Appeals found this process to be legal under Article 1 Section 7 in May, 2007 in a suit brought ironically enough by Democrats trying to stop Bush's Congress from using it. The US Supreme Court under Rehnquist chose to let the appeals court ruling stand.

As for your argument based on the declaration, Jefferson was arguing about the colonies throwing off the yoke of British oppression. He was defining the circumstances of his time. Even if you want to argue that he meant it to be applied to all time, you would still have to deal with the fact that it is a philosophical statement - not the law of the land. I am sure that if a Democrat called for the same thing King is calling for you would be screaming treason.

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March 17, 2010 3:29 PM    in reply to voted against carter

Actually it is not treason, it is sedition with an attempt at the subversion of the Constitution. I do not care what issue he is bleating about, he is advocating the overthrow of the United States Government. While you can spout your libertarian crap about how you can just form a new government because the old one doesn't go your way, in reality you won't get very far. They have the guns, they print the money.

It is not your fucking right to rebel against the government, and I don't need a poly sci. class to tell me that, jackass. I did not serve in this country's military to have fuckwits like Steve King, Bachmann, and you tear it apart.

On the day some group really does try Civil War 2.0, I will gladly go down and re-enlist, just so I can execute all those who would try to destroy United States of America that I have already fought for.

America, love it or leave it. Try to destroy it and I will be the first to put a bullet in the back of your head.

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March 18, 2010 2:51 PM    in reply to Isepick

Yo Isepick: Were you bought off with "free" college paid for by taxpayers when you joined the military? You seem to be a leftist and that is not what we want in our military, but, of course, anyone can be bribed.

When you side with Obama and other leftists, you might as well consider yourself one of the Chicoms army personnel that shot and ran down the freedom protesters in Tiananmen Square. That's what leftists do to "secure the people".

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March 18, 2010 7:50 PM    in reply to voted against carter

You need to learn the difference between, on one hand, LAW -- which is the Constitution -- and NON-law PROPAGANDA, which is the "Declaration of Indpendence".

Otherwise, both documents CONDEMN your position:

US Con. Art. I., S. 8, C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, (and) SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS.

"Declaration":

[King George III] has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power."

And during the debate of that which became the Second Amendment -- the only concern of which being whether to establish a standing army, or to rely instead on the militia -- ANTI-Federalist Congressman summed up the whole issue of the debate in this statement:

"What, sir, is the use of the militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty."

1. They opposed establishing a standing army because they saw such as being a THREAT to the govt's they established.

2. They voted to rely on the militia because they DIDN'T intend that it threaten the gov'ts they established.

Why do Republican'ts-get-it-straight bother posting their nonsense here?

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March 17, 2010 2:29 PM    in reply to hunter

because we have freedom of speech [at least for now.]

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March 16, 2010 5:53 PM   

When the revolution begins, we hold everyone who strongly suggested it be held responsible.

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March 17, 2010 2:32 PM    in reply to Jackster

careful what you wish for, you could be on the losing end in november and then we come after you.

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March 16, 2010 6:00 PM   

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March 16, 2010 6:18 PM   

Yawn. Another rep who apparently forgot his brain at home today.

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March 16, 2010 6:23 PM    in reply to Matt Jones

No, there's only one explanation. These nuts have found the mother-lode of hallucinogenic drugs that make LSD seem like Tylenol.

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March 16, 2010 11:16 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Look at his eyes: it's methamphetamine.

"The whole wide world is takin'/Far too much meth-a-drine." -- Canned Heat

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March 18, 2010 8:35 AM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Orange Pekoe...

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March 16, 2010 6:19 PM   

What....ever....

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March 16, 2010 6:33 PM   

Just imagine the tricorn-hatted power that a clumsy, stumbling group of 100 or so pasty, elderly and massively overweight "rebels" will wield over DC. They'll shut that city down, sir.

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March 16, 2010 9:53 PM    in reply to shortstop

Run! Hide! Tremble!

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March 16, 2010 6:34 PM   

Wait, is he recommending a coup? He suggests that people stop the government from functioning and compares the current administration to the communist government of Prague?

When do the grown-ups start to address this kind of tantrum? Oh, right, IOKIYAR

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March 16, 2010 7:23 PM   

I hope he's held accountable if another act of right wing terrorism is committed at his behest.

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March 16, 2010 8:59 PM   

I say, let the American people fill up King's office and not let him out of his office.

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March 16, 2010 9:11 PM   

I think he's just going for the historical similarities in the headline: "King Calls for Civil Disobedience."

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March 16, 2010 9:44 PM   

Okay, so by 'similar' he means 'opposite'. RNC, baby. We shoot straight (crooked).

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March 16, 2010 9:58 PM   

The actual Velvet Revolution was the one in the 1950s. The one the Soviets put down with tanks. The 1989 was just a "me-too" to what happened in Germany and the Baltics.

Steve "Desert Eagle" King is seriously confused if he thinks these nuts could resort to civil disobedience and stay non-violent. Still, I guess creating a bloody incident is about the only hope for the GOP at this point.

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March 17, 2010 7:55 AM    in reply to calbearinillinois

There was no "velvet" in the '59 revolution. They drug Soviet and local communist officials out of their offices and shot those fuckers.

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March 16, 2010 10:33 PM   

Then what? The President orders the 101st Airborne to clear the streets with the tip of a bayonette?

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March 16, 2010 11:28 PM    in reply to expat46

no need, just tell them they are going to miss glen becks show and they will go home.

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March 17, 2010 2:05 AM    in reply to musgrove

Or that they are going to miss seeing Kentucky play in the NCAA basketball tournament.

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March 16, 2010 11:09 PM   

Deep thought:

If HCR passes, does it break the back of the GOP-Teabaggers?

I mean, all the threats, menacing, Scott Brown, etc. all to stop it, and if it finally passes, doesn't it show a lack of actual power for all the noise?

I think HCR passing kills the current MSM teabagger narrative.

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March 16, 2010 11:33 PM    in reply to AnswerFrog

The problem is if HCR passes, it reinforces the Teabagger sense of victimization. They'll whine that Washington isn't listening to them and things are being rammed down their throats etc. etc. And the MSM will shift to cover it without a beat.

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March 17, 2010 9:23 PM    in reply to Xantar

Oh, most of them could really *use* something rammed down their throats. You can tell from their attitudes about gay marriage that the closet is a tough place to live. :)

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March 17, 2010 12:01 PM    in reply to AnswerFrog

Hopefully, finally, after two freaking years, the administration will move to financial regulatory reform. And THAT my amphibian friend will break the back of the tea-bagger movement. Can you imagine a march on Washington to defend the bankers from regulation? The Dems will reclaim the populist message and the tea-bagger movement will fall apart like a cheap watch.

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March 16, 2010 11:16 PM   

Where was this guy during the Bush/Republican years when they rode roughshod over our personal freedoms and privacy, with nary a peep? Where was he when they shredded our regulatory protections, which led to the depths we find ourselves in economically? And...where was he when they spent us, on and off budget, from a surplus into the debt we found ourselves in last January?

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March 16, 2010 11:36 PM   

"So this is just like Prague under communist rule?" the Huffington Post asked.

"Oh yeah, it is very, very close," King replied. "It is the nationalization of our liberty and the federal government taking our liberty over. So there are a lot of similarities there."

Really? The nationalization of our liberty? With NO SINGLE-PAYER? WITH NO PUBLIC OPTION?

What a douche. This isn't about policy; it's about PR and sound bites (no, I didn't just figure this out; it just bears repeating). Wake up, America! The Republicans have hijacked the system. It started with Norm Coleman, and I fear it'll end in violence.

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March 16, 2010 11:51 PM   

incidentally, Prague under communist rule produced some of the best small arms on the planet. In fact, their design has influenced a huge amount of other small arms design in the following years. The Jericho 941 (aka the Baby Eagle) is basically a prettied-up IMI clone of a Czech CZ-75B. Tangfolio Witnesses are exact clones of the CZ-75B, and to quote world.guns.ru, the following are also clones of this model: Sarsilmaz (M2000, Turkey), ITM (AT-88, Swiss), Sphinx (mod.2000, Swiss), Norinco (NZ-75, China), Springfield (P9, USA).

The Czechs, under Communism, produced some of the best handguns on the planet, and the Czechs are proud of that history. Most of the handguns they produced are now in civilian hands, and protect untold thousands — either in the hands of the police or the ordinary citizen.

I think the Honourable Rep. King needs to review some of history's lessons, lest he inflame those in his base.

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March 16, 2010 11:58 PM   

Yeah, good luck with that, bozo.

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March 17, 2010 12:02 AM   

This King, and Bachmann and others, elected officials for chrissakes, calling for armed insurrection, calling for the people to quit paying taxes, call for secession....

They are not true Americans.

They are truly the enemy of the people.

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March 17, 2010 1:29 AM    in reply to dickday

you know that section of most federal oaths that say, "from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic"? What happens when you ARE the enemy, and what do we do with people who would hijack the system for their own selfish ends?

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March 17, 2010 2:03 AM   

Sertously, these guys are losing their effing minds. This may be the first time in their spoiled, pampered, spoon fed lives, that they haven't gotten their way.

Here's a concept that they're going to have to get used to, TOUGH SHIT!!!!

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March 17, 2010 2:08 AM   

Well, unless he can get a bigger mob together than Code Red evidently pulled in today, I wouldn't be too worried. You won't even have to call in the National Guard; some city cops should be able to handle them.

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March 17, 2010 4:35 AM    in reply to slb

Code Red almost brought half a city block to a standstill!!

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March 17, 2010 7:09 AM   

IF the Democrats were smart they'd find Americans who were formerly Czech citizens during that era and have them speak publicly about the similarities, or lack thereof, between the US and Czechoslovakia. It would be the best way to refute King's assholery.

But they're not, so they won't.

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March 17, 2010 9:17 AM   

This guy should be on the no-fly list.

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March 17, 2010 11:37 AM    in reply to Steve LaBonne

That's hilarious!

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March 17, 2010 9:17 AM   

A Million White Man March!

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March 17, 2010 9:55 AM   

As I was getting ready to work, I was pondering this article and King's significance in the grand scheme of things. And it made me think, wouldn't it be nice if we could unequivocally say that King is, beyond question, the most insane person in Congress? That his insanity is without peer or any near competitor? That he is a statistical outlier of the most extreme magnitude and that no one else comes close to him in the competition for most absolutely batshit insane person any state or district has sent to Congress in the last twenty years? Wouldn't that be great?

And, unfortuately, it's not true. In the Senate, we've got Inhofe and DeMento. In the House, we've got Bachmann and Wilson. My own state has sent them Ginny Foxx and whatsername from Charlotte who's busily ferreting out all those Muslim sleeper agents who've burrowed into the Democrat administration.

Without even trying, I'm sure most of you could come up with a half a dozen or a dozen more GOP members who have their very own sections in the DMSR-V.

Sure, King probably is the most insane of the bunch, but it's a real competition. He's not out there all by himself in the "was it really a good idea for the ACLU make it so hard to get someone committed?" club. And what's important is that they're all well past the point where fine gradations in the degree of mental impairment caused their various mental disorders are even relevant from a public safety standpoint.

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March 17, 2010 10:31 AM   

To paraphrase a line from "Casablanca" - there are certain sections of DC I would advise you not to try and invade....

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March 17, 2010 11:39 AM   

Please feel free to check out the facebook group I created. We are going to be in DC saturday to demonstrate:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&ref=search&gid=10150141280075467

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March 17, 2010 12:09 PM    in reply to Mikeit83

Are you going there to completely shut down a half of a city block?

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March 17, 2010 12:46 PM    in reply to expat46

I have a feeling the number of protestors will be outnumbered by the number of news crew personnel from all the major cable news outlets.

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March 17, 2010 2:01 PM    in reply to psyclone

I would love to be there if only to witness the desperation in the tea bagger's eyes when the bill passes.

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March 17, 2010 12:51 PM   

You leftists cretins are going to be left high and dry, when the non-parsites in this Country (such as myself), stop working, stop paying taxes, and leave your handouts without any funds. Then you can take your college degrees, which are not worth the paper they are printed on, and figure out how to run your "utopia" of "free" everything without the intelligence, ambition, drive to succeed, and "get-it-done" attitude that we have, that you lefties always seem to lack, as you sit around smoking dope, getting drunk, screwing whatever is screwable at that particular moment.

That is what true socialism is. The mediocrity that settles over the society will turn a once vibrant and growing society into Europe, which is dying a slow death, because of low birth rates and high taxes, which has a cause and effect that nobody has the money nor the will to reproduce...becuase there is no hope for their children's future under socialism.

You may get what you want, lefties. I hope you live a LONG LIFE so you can experience an even longer, agonizingly slow and painful death by socialism!

Remember people like me, who will be laughing at all of the dying statists who thought they were going to use the power of the government to make slaves out of other Americans....

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March 17, 2010 1:18 PM    in reply to falcngnzx22

By all means, stop working. Just don't complain when you get fired and replaced.

Remember, "right to work" after all, amirite?

If you do up end up striking to go teabag your fellow slackjawed ilk, please give me the name of your employer. Like millions of American's, I'm unemployed at this time and would certainly take your job if you don't want it.

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March 17, 2010 2:08 PM    in reply to falcngnzx22

What happened to: America right or wrong? If you don't love it then leave it, tea bagger. And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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March 17, 2010 2:14 PM   

TTEM: OF COURSE you are unemployed, you worthless leftist!

I have enough in my 401k TODAY that will grow into about $1.5 MILLION dollars
, if I receive about an average of 8% annual returns (very easily attainable) if Obama doesn't destroy the American economy before 2019.

Add to that, a $500,000 LUMP SUM PENSION from a "major energy" company that
leftists HATE (you wouldn't accept a job here, because they actually demand successful results), and try to destroy when gas prices rise.

Then, when I am 62, I will begin collecting my social "security" and I will
NEED worthless, sad-sack, leftist, arteests, salesmen, photographers, or "journalists" like you to get to work to pay possibly up to 9% in FICA TAXES for MY social "security" and medicare...

So stop your slacking, you parasite, and learn some REAL job skills and get back to working the rest of your patehtic life, so I can collect my social security, while also spending my $2 million dollars-plus in 401k and pension benefits!

How's that for "slack-jawed teabagger", GENIUS???

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

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March 17, 2010 2:25 PM    in reply to falcngnzx22

Just imagine what your precious 401K would be worth if the politicians hadn't bought into the ridiculous idea that markets will regulate themselves. You'd probably be sitting on a beach in Costa Rica right now instead of bothering us with your insane rants.

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March 17, 2010 6:29 PM    in reply to falcngnzx22

$2.0 million by 2019? Thats pathetic. Do you really expect that to last you for the remainder of your life?

Bragging about collecting social security and medicare? You do know those are socialist, gub'mint programs right? Probably not, or you wouldn't have been bragging about collecting from them.

I don't get benefits by the way, I'm surviving on my savings and per diem work.

Whose the parasite again?

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March 18, 2010 12:39 PM    in reply to the true enduring majority

THE TRUE ENDURING MAJORITY asked me:

"$2.0 million by 2019? Thats pathetic. Do you really expect that to last you for the remainder of your life?"

In MY working man's world, $2 million will be most satisfactory. You see, you may be some rich guy's kid, but I am not, and when I begin withdrawing from my 401k, I will take out 7% a year ($140,000 - which, because of the high inflation Obama will be causing to occur, will be worth what $100,000 is today), and $100,000 is $35,000 more than what I earn WORKING, so American Capitalism will have enabled this son of Parents born during the Depression of the 1930s, one from Manhattan, and one from Ireland, and neither parent with a HIGH SCHOOL diploma, into a financially independent man.

As I take out 7% each year, I expect a 7% return on the money still in the 401k, so the principle (that "meager" $2 million) is never touched.

Now, if you are a rich guy's kid, you may think that is laughable. How could YOU keep your lifestyle on "only" $140,000 per year in retirement?

Believe me, after working for 36 years for an average of $45,000 or so, living off of $140,000 per year will be FANTASTIC!

But, I will definitely be collecting MY social security, paid for by dolts like you, because the socialists FORCED me to "contribute" my FICA TAXES to pay for somebody who was retired when I was a working "youth".

So, keep working (until you drop dead) and continue paying your (bound to be raised from 7.5% now to ????%) FICA TAXES, because I will be DEMANDING my money back...

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March 19, 2010 1:41 AM    in reply to falcngnzx22

Who cares about your money? You do not seem very happy with all your millions. There is more to life than money.

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March 17, 2010 3:23 PM   

expat46: Glad to oblige... Actually, I am an investor, not a day trader, so I did not expect to "get rich" overnight. A solid, growing investment with some risk earns betwen 8-11% annual return, and with my average salary all of my working life, it takes about 35 years to get to about %1.5 million at 8% and at 11% average return, the total would be over $2.5 million. Thanks to Obama, who has kind of slowed down my annual return rate, but your ridculous idea that free-market Capitalism (of which we have not had in this country in over 80 years) does not work and you are half-right, Captalism has been hamstrung with all of the government intrusions in the markets via mandates and regulations since FDR. But some of us believe in the Free-market Capitalist system, and we will not have the fruits of our labor stolen by a bunch of wealthy, elitist socialists who you want to "even the score" by stealing other American's money.

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March 17, 2010 6:06 PM    in reply to falcngnzx22

What about that $27 trillion unregulated derivatives market? Wasn't that an example of unrestricted capitalism at it's finest. Or did you miss that story?

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March 18, 2010 1:34 PM    in reply to expat46

What about it? If you knew about or had access to the derivatives market and could have made a few million on it, you would have. You are not that pure.

All you have to do to find out who STOPPED the regulation of the derivatives market is to go and read up on FORMER Undersecretary for International Affairs and later in the United States Department of the Treasury under the Clinton Administration. In 1995, he was promoted to Deputy Secretary of the Treasury under his long-time political mentor Robert Rubin. In 1999, he succeeded Rubin as Secretary of the Treasury. In 2009, he was tapped by President Obama to be the director of the White House National Economic Council.[2][47] He has emerged as a key economic decision-maker in the Obama administration...(and he is doing such a FINE JOB === falcngnzx22)

"The lack of regulation that allowed A.I.G. to sell hundreds of billions of dollars in credit default swaps on mortgage-backed securities was a direct result of efforts by the Treasury (first under Rubin and then under Summers), the Federal Reserve (under Greenspan), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (under Arthur Levitt) to deregulate the derivatives markets."

The banks are not Capitalistic because the politicians "deemed" the banks "too big to fail", which is a socialistic way of saying "we make trillions in profits when our bets win, but when our risky bets lose, we stick it to the taxpayers of the United States".

The banks that were deemed "too big to fail" should have been allowed to go bankrupt, which is what happens in a TRUE Capitalistic economy. Not in this quasi-socialistic mess we have.

"Less familiar is the discovery of the Black-Scholes Model that led to the explosion of derivatives and the ability to offset risk in stocks, commodities, and debt. This led investors to increase their risk through use of the futures and options market (especially the Chicago Board Options Exchange) and contributed to formation and popping of the housing bubble that we the experiencing today. The first derivatives bubble to pop was Long Term Capital Management in 1999 back when derivatives totaled $27 trillion and were entirely unregulated. Due to opposition by Greenspan, Summers, and Rubin, derivatives are still unregulated but now have grown to $595 trillion. Obama is starting to talk about regulating them. Bank of England governor Mervyn King said recently the big banks should get broken up because of the “sheer creative imagination of the financial sector to think up new ways of taking risk” and then passing it on to the taxpayer because they are too big to fail."

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March 18, 2010 1:41 PM    in reply to falcngnzx22

"All you have to do to find out who STOPPED the regulation of the derivatives market is to go and read up on FORMER Undersecretary for International Affairs and later in the United States Department of the Treasury under the Clinton Administration. In 1995, he was promoted to Deputy Secretary of the Treasury under his long-time political mentor Robert Rubin. In 1999, he succeeded Rubin as Secretary of the Treasury. In 2009, he was tapped by President Obama to be the director of the White House National Economic Council.[2][47] He has emerged as a key economic decision-maker in the Obama administration...(and he is doing such a FINE JOB === falcngnzx22)"

This would be LAWRENCE SUMMERS...

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March 17, 2010 4:01 PM   

To the children hiding in mommy's basement, I've got news for you. Your clueless generation won't know what hit you when you are slaves to the government, compliments of the corrupt politicians and traitors who have betrayed the Constitution. Keep on living in your fantasy world where all is not as it seems. You will see. Oh, and while you're at it, check this out:

Governors Rise Up Against Federal Takeover of Health Care
http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=176816

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March 17, 2010 4:19 PM   

Not to worry, we'll be able to pay the Chinese back with all of the land that the Federal government is placing under 'eminent domain' as collateral for their loans to us to fund the spending of the last 12+ months. Translation: China will own us within 25 years or less.

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March 17, 2010 4:47 PM   

Jmcaul: I have heard that and I tend to agree. Practically all of the wealth in the Western United States in oil, natural gas, minerals, gold, silver, etc.
is what we will be forced to give China so that they do not call our debt.

So much for relying on our "best and brightest" economic students from Harvard, wharton, and other "prestigious" business schools. The get schooled in Capitalism by the Communist Chinese...

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March 18, 2010 11:19 AM   

@Isepick "I will be the first to put a bullet in the back of your head" Spoken like a true coward. You are an embarrassment to the military and this country. He's not inciting sedition, he's invoking our 1st Amendment right and promoting peaceful protest. Our Declaration states "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." This is how this country was founded you cretin, and my 2nd Amendment rights guarantee that when you(or the government) seek to take away my liberty, I can and will use 'arms' to retain them as the founders intended. And I will shoot you face to face you coward, not in the back of the head...

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March 18, 2010 8:00 PM    in reply to Statists Suck

1. The Founders/Framers were "statists" to such degree that they not only supported statism but also founded actual states.

2. The "Declaration" is NOT LAW. But the Constitution IS, and it contains this express stipulation:

Art. I., S. 8, C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS.

Moreover, the "Declaration" also condemns your anti-Constitutional nonsense:

[King George III] has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

Which is to say: Jefferson too, despite his more outlandish hypotheses, was also a "statist".

There's no "right of revolution". And invoking some "God"-given "right" violates separation of church and state.

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March 18, 2010 12:16 PM   

I can't imagine if Bush pulled this on the American people. The press would be pounding him and everyone would be going nuts. This is a parliamentary procedure that has never been used for such massive legislation. Even Social Security and Medicare had a consensus and were passed by both sides of the aisle.

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March 18, 2010 7:55 PM    in reply to BeenThere

Yeah -- the same way the press pounded the SC for unconstitutionally usurping the authority solely of CONGRESS to resolve election disputes such as that in 2000 in order to not merely unconstitutionally appoint the loser of the election but also to vote TWICE in the SAME election, which is a FELONY.

And pounded the Bushit criminal enterprise for allowing 9/11 to happen, and then lying the country into illegally invading and occupying a non-threatening sovereign nation and torturing its citizens based on the lie that torturer Saddam Hussein was behind the attacks.

Oh -- right: the press engaged in constant pre-marital handholding with the Bushit criminal enterprise in order to grease the skids for those treasons.

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March 19, 2010 1:47 AM    in reply to BeenThere

Bush used reconciliation to pass dozens of laws including the biggest tax cut for rich, but the republican-controlled press was silent crickets. They are yelling now. Go to get some education dummy.

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March 18, 2010 11:13 PM   

Dear King, you are no king, you are a scared rabbit. You are scared that wishes of majority of American people will prevail.
I am one of the 10,000 Czech students who risked their lives to bring down communism in 1989 and I am very DEEPLY offended by your comparisons. Why don't you come to the Czech Republic to say this? Are you afraid? I know we are too tough for you. I know what would happen. We would put you in the mental hospital because you are obviously crazy. However, do not worry. We have great universal health care for everybody in the Czech Republic, so you would be OK. You would not lose your home or need to declare bankruptcy over medical bills. No Czech citizen has ever done that. So try to keep with changing times; you are leaving in the cave. By the way, I demand your apology. By the way, I now live in Iowa and I will make sure that your next election will be VERY tough for you. Do not forget; I was not afraid of communist’s tanks.

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March 19, 2010 10:37 AM   

Amazing.
You pinheads think protesting the government takeover of health care amounts to treason but the congress by-passing the Constitution isn`t. If this bill is so great why did it take nearly a year of bribes,kickbacks and arm twisting for dems to get their own party to support it? Why did Nanski Peloski say "I like it," Pelosi said of the scheme, "because people don't have to vote on the Senate bill." Why have they used every piece of accounting and "legal" mumbo jumbo they can come up with to get this thing passed? You people are stupid beyond belief. Especially the idiot that claims to be "one of the 10,000 Czech students" who ought to know communism when they see it.


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June 6, 2010 6:06 AM   

Deep thought:

If HCR passes, does it break the back of the GOP-Teabaggers?

I mean, all the threats, menacing, Scott Brown, etc. all to stop it, and if it finally passes, doesn't it show a lack of actual power for all the noise?

I think HCR passing kills the current MSM teabagger narrative.

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