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Tea Partiers Call Lewis 'N****r', Frank 'F****t', At Capitol Hill Protest
Reps. John Lewis (D-GA) and Barney Frank (D-MA); tea part activists (inset)
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Tea partiers and other anti-health care activists are known to get rowdy, but today's protest on Capitol Hill--the day before the House is set to vote on historic health care legislation--went beyond the usual chanting and controversial signs, and veered into ugly bigotry and intimidation.
Civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) and fellow Congressional Black Caucus member Andre Carson (D-IN) related a particularly jarring encounter with a large crowd of protesters screaming "kill the bill"... and punctuating their chants with the word "nigger."
Standing next to Lewis, emerging from a Democratic caucus meeting with President Obama, Carson said people in the crowd yelled, "kill the bill and then the N-word" several times, while he and Lewis were exiting the Cannon House office building.
"People have been just downright mean," Lewis added.
And that wasn't an isolated incident. Early this afternoon, standing outside a Democratic whip meeting in the Longworth House office building, I watched Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) make his way out the door, en route to the neighboring Rayburn building. As he rounded the corner toward the exit, wading through a huge crowd of tea partiers and other health care protesters, an elderly white man screamed "Barney, you faggot"--a line that caused dozens of his confederates to erupt in laughter.
After that incident, Capitol police threatened to expel the protesters from the building, but were outnumbered and quickly overwhelmed. Tea party protesters equipped with high-end video cameras were summoned to film the encounter and the officers ultimately relented.
After the caucus meeting, TPMDC's Evan McMorris-Santoro caught up with Frank, who reflected on the incident.
"I'm disappointed at a unwillingness to be just civil," Frank said. "[T]he objection to the health care bill has become a proxy for other sentiments."
"Obviously there are perfectly reasonable people that are against this, but the people out there today on the whole--many of them were hateful and abusive," Frank added.
Asked by TPMDC whether today's protesters were more hateful than at other rallies, Frank took issue with party leaders for aligning themselves with the movement.
I do think the leaders of the movement, and this was true of some of the Republicans last year, that they think they are benefiting from this rancor. I mean there are a couple who--you know, Michele Bachmann's rhetoric is inflamatory as well as wholly baseless. And I think there are people there, a few that encourage it.
"If this was my cause, and I saw this angry group yelling and shouting and being so abusive to people, I would ask them to please stop it," Frank concluded. "I think they do more harm than good."
Shortly thereafter, the same group of people surrounded Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) as he entered a first-floor elevator. Above the cacophony, I heard one man call Waxman a "crook" and a "liar."
"This is incredible," House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) told reporters of the slurs. "It's shocking to me." He said he hadn't heard such vitriol since March 15, 1960 when he was protesting segregation laws that forced him to sit in the back of buses. "A lot of us have been saying for a long time that much of this, much of this, is not about health care at all," Clyburn said. "I think a lot of those people today demonstrated this is not about health care."
What is it about, a reporter asked?
"It's about trying to extend a basic fundamental right to people who are less powerful."
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jdb316
March 20, 2010 6:00 PM
So much for the idea that people can protest in a civil fashion.
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docrocktex
March 20, 2010 6:06 PM in reply to jdb316
So much for the idea that the teabaggers aren't motivated in part by racism and bigotry.
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GTFOOH
March 20, 2010 7:05 PM in reply to docrocktex
Should we expect any less? Teabaggers are a creation of Dick Army.
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DirtyLibrul
March 20, 2010 8:00 PM in reply to GTFOOH
You mean they ARE a dick army...
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GTFOOH
March 20, 2010 8:14 PM in reply to DirtyLibrul
...good one!
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Jacob
August 16, 2010 8:34 AM in reply to GTFOOH
Last I checked, the likes of me provided Obama with the worst Presidental approval rating for time in office EVER. Also, the last I checked, the latest elections had the likes of me booting Deeds, Corzine and Coakley (she was running for Dead Man Kennedy's seat!)out of ofice. And the last I checked, two in three of the likes of me dissapproved of ObamaCare, recognizing that it is a sham! That would put YOU in the super-minority.
As to the issue of deportation, you think things are heating up now, wait until you losers try to legalize the illegals. I can hardly wait.
funny motivational posters
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Libertyluvrz
March 21, 2010 8:33 AM in reply to DirtyLibrul
Favorite of the day!
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jron
March 20, 2010 7:32 PM in reply to docrocktex
well, Democrats DID take away their right not to have a black president. Of course they're still angry.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 9:54 AM in reply to jron
...and now they are constantly culturally cornered by that stark reality, slowly realizing that it is both too late to prevent and despite their desperate birtherism, there is no way to reverse it.
But beware the cornered beast, the more desperate they become, the more likely we will see some sort of violence flare up and their membership fall off to the most angry among them.
As their numbers distill down to their lowest common denominators, we will no doubt find prejudice and intolerance as the last real refuge for these scoundrels, all wrapped up in Old Glory and singing "The Star Spangled Banner" even as they claw away at the very foundations of our personal freedoms.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 2:50 PM in reply to jron
They just want their racist, lily white heterosexual country back.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 1:52 PM in reply to docrocktex
Hmmm. Odd how with the most publicized political event in recent memory, NOT A SINGLE CAMERA OR RECORDING DEVICE PICKED UP THESE WORDS.(oops, my homophobia and racism is showing)
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:08 PM in reply to Rich Mason
Well, it's even more odd how there are so many recordings of it, and people still promote the false meme that there aren't any such records. Is that the newest form of ultimate denial? "That 800 lb. gorilla sitting over there ISN'T in the room!"
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 2:29 PM in reply to JEP07
Link please and I'll stand corrected. Thanks in advance.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:53 PM in reply to Rich Mason
I really don't believe you are sincere, Rich, you KNOW as well as the rest of us this was a bunch of beefed-up baggers, and that they are perfectly capable of spitting the kinds of epithets they are accused of.
Why do you feel compelled to act as their advocate?
You aren't going to convince anyone here that teabaggers aren't capable of prejudice and bigotry, we've been following their "progress" closely and one would have to be sincerely stupid not to read between some of their lines, some of us grew up hearing those dogwhistles and still hear them from a better perspective.
You seem desperate to protect some delusional honor-bound "conservative fellowship" from facing repercussions because of what some of the political neanderthals among you did. But you are really hooked at the hip.
By their pals ye shall know them?
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 3:12 PM in reply to JEP07
"I don't believe that you are sincere"
You may choose to believe whatever you like, but I'm not the one that said, "there are so many recordings of it," Now you come on with more blah blah but no links. You made the above statement knowing at the time you made it that you were not aware of any recordings of this incident.
I don't think you're in a position to question my sincerity. Post links to recordings and I'll stand corrected and thank you as I have sincerely stated.
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francois
March 21, 2010 3:48 PM in reply to Rich Mason
explain this then. You seem quite smug.
"It's not a danger," Steele told NBC's "Meet the Press on Sunday." "It's certainly not a reflection of the movement or the Republican Party when you have idiots out there saying stupid things."
"As Leader Boehner said, that's reprehensible," he said, referring to House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. "We don't support that."
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 3:59 PM in reply to francois
What explanation would be necessary? No one supports that. Thank you for publicizing that the leadership in opposition to health care do not support racism or homo phobia. I'm glad it's not necessary for me to point that out.
If what Lewis and Franks claim happened- did happen, it's an appalling thing.
I'm only pointing out that there were plenty of cameras and recording devices around recording the entire event and yet none of them have captured this.
Odd, don't you think?
There's plenty of rhetoric on this francios--got any links?
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francois
March 21, 2010 4:14 PM in reply to Rich Mason
I suppose you could call it odd. I simply choose to believe these respectable people. Sorry.
I'll keep looking though.
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PatrickJKiger
March 21, 2010 4:26 PM in reply to francois
I guess John Lewis also lied about having been beaten nearly to death during a civil rights protest in the 1960s, right? I don't think there's a video of that, either.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 4:31 PM in reply to francois
Thanks and fair enough.
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wabenzi
March 21, 2010 11:22 PM in reply to Rich Mason
http://sdgln.com/commentary/2010/03/21/tea-bag-protesters-expose-their-bigoted-side
Video of someone calling Barney Frank a f*****t.
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Spiffarino
March 22, 2010 10:14 AM in reply to wabenzi
Presumably Mr. Mason will acknowledge this shortly.
Yup. Any time now...
*crickets*
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 2:53 PM in reply to JEP07
Who you gonna believe? The racist tea baggers or your lyin' ears?
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AhTrini1
March 20, 2010 7:35 PM in reply to jdb316
Welcome to post-racial America. These are the "American people" we can all be proud of!
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FawkesFOX
March 20, 2010 10:38 PM in reply to AhTrini1
It's okay. They're angry. That's what every GOP congressman and right-wing pundit will tell you when they're interviewed about it. They're really really angry.
Gee, do you suppose that anger might stem from the incessant line of outrageous bullshit that they're being fed about the health care reform bill? Goddam Fox News-addicted morons.
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JerrySumpter
March 20, 2010 11:32 PM in reply to FawkesFOX
I couldn't agree more. There are at least two section of that camp though -- the (1) privileged and manipulative repugs who screw with the heads of the (2)trusting (Fox-zombied) repugs. Ultimately I feel sorry for the life experience of both; how sad to be a manipulated zombie or a cheating, lying grown-up child.
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RH factor
March 20, 2010 11:36 PM in reply to FawkesFOX
Yes and you want cause trauma of the source they need to hear this at Fox news in NYC. there should be counter protest bigger and more pissed off. Let them know this is not acceptable.
Or is it acceptable - someones needs and check and balance eh?
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MoCrash
March 21, 2010 12:36 PM in reply to FawkesFOX
Irrationally angry, which means mentally unhealthy. People who cannot express themselves on an issue without resorting to this type of abusive behavior should not be let out of their homes, much less be allowed to congregate.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 1:58 PM in reply to FawkesFOX
I think maybe they're angry because they want your hand out of their pockets. Leave us out of it. Keep Obamacare to (and pay for it) yourselves. Punish us by not letting us take"advantage" of it--or admit why you refuse to do so. You can't get your free candy without stealing from those of us who know better.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to Rich Mason
"Rich", you can't even sell your candy in the first place without a middle class to consume it, dunderhead.
Stop robbing the commonwealth just to add another zero to your name, better pay your people well, and give up that Bush percentage you are now so addicted to, for the public good, instead complaining about it like a spoiled child protecting his "candy."
Respect the middle class, "Rich," no doubt, unless you hearken back to old southern slave money, (which would explain a great deal of your prejudice towards "other" classes) then it is more than likely the middle class made you rich in the first place.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 2:46 PM in reply to JEP07
"Rich", you can't even sell your candy in the first place without a middle class to consume it, dunderhead.
The above is the most sensible comment (other than my own of course) that I've read on this site. I hope others remember that the next time they're fed the idea that the wealthy want to "destroy" the middle class.
Incidentally, I'm not wealthy, the picture you see is me and I bought that sweater at the GoodWill. I'm poor but I'm not a thief. Government sponsored wealth transfer and class envy is a sucker's game and what I hate about it the most is all of my friends and (maybe) nice guys like you who are being cheated lied to and taken advantage by Rich "liberal" Democrats like Pelosi, Kerry, Feinstein and the late Ted Kennedy who have more money than God, didn't earn any of it and are absolutely laughing at you for being taken in by them. This is completely off topic but seriously, Do you really think the likes of the people I've just named, give a rats ass about you?? Really?? I say this with as much compassion as one stranger can have for another, look BOTH ways before you cross the street my friend, and think again!
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 2:57 PM in reply to Rich Mason
"Do you really think the likes of the people I've just named, give a rats ass about you?? Really??"
I REALLY think that the people you name care more about ME than the likes of Karl Rove, Dick Armey, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and any single other Republican you can name.
You are deluded if you think the party of "I've got mine" cares one whit for you. You ARE the sheeple they are playing with, like Monopoly tokens.
I feel sorry for you that you cannot see that.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 3:50 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Cal Gal, I believe, in all sincerity that you are mistaken. I've become reluctant to defend the politicians you list because I've grown very suspicious of ALL incumbents but I tend to trust people more who tell me the things I don't want to hear- a little more than people who tell me things (they think) I do. I'm sure you would summarize the contrasting messages differently but I'm going to share my summary with you anyway, just for fun. Dick Armey, just to pick one will say "you are the solution to most of your problems, if you want more medical care, it is up to you to find a way to become more productive so you can afford it" Now I'll agree(as does Armey)that there are systemic changes we can make to lower the cost for everybody but ULTIMATELY, it is up to ME to pay for healthcare or ANY OTHER goods and services I need and it is up to everybody else (grown up)to do the same.
The "Pelosi" message is,"never mind your pretty head about the cost, vote for me and we'll just get SOMEONE ELSE to pay the cost of health care for you."
Now while I suppose I would PREFER to believe that "someone else" ("mommy" "daddy" "the evil rich people" "government") ANYBODY BUT ME should pay for my healthcare, deep down inside I know that such is not the case. So even though I may not like what Dick Armey is telling me as much as what Nancy Pelosi is telling me, I tend to trust what Armey says a little more. So, I'm OK with Armey not "caring" about me personally-because that's really not a part of his message. I don't have to believe that Armey "wuvs" me to trust what he says. On the other hand it is absolutely essential that I believe that Pelosi "wuvs" me because it very much is a part of her song and dance. Understand?--and I just don't happen to believe that a several hundred millionaire, cavier-eating-botox-sucking-private-jet-flying-to-the-global-warming -elitist like Pelosi gives me or anyone else but her fellow elitist the slightest thought. Understand?
Hope to see you on the other side (of this debate)someday.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:06 PM in reply to Rich Mason
Of course that's not what Nancy says, but when I saw farther down the thread that you're a Randian, your comments finally made "sense," in the sense that you're a follower of a fictional economics.
I'm more of a Donne fan myself: "No man is an island."
BTW, I have a brother with Down Syndrome, and no way in the world he can become "more productive."
I guess you and Ayn think he should just live on the streets and beg or something? Or should I become my brother's keeper? I don't think Ayn would say that THAT was in MY self interest, do you?
The world is not the clockwork orange she, and you, think it is. It is messy, it is fractal, it is chaotic, and no "rationalist" theory has any longlasting application in it.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 3:03 PM in reply to Rich Mason
"the wealthy want to "destroy" the middle class."
No, they just want so much of their disposable income, the middle class can't consume any more because the wealthy class won't loose the dogs of wages upon the waiting world. They want to loan it to us as credit instead.
Who do you speak for then, if you are not "one of them?"
"They" surely appreciate your wasting your efforts defending them to intelligent liberals who aren't going to believe you anyway. They laugh at you behind your back, they have more respect for their middle-class adversaries than they do for their middle class advocates.
Whose wealth are you protecting?
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 4:06 PM in reply to JEP07
Whose wealth are you protecting?
Ayn Rand answers your question with a metaphor. Picture everyone in the wold standing on a ladder in order of who 'has the most'. Everyone higher than you on the ladder owes you because they have it and you don't! Sounds Great! BUT-DON'T LOOK DOWN!
I hope that answered your question.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:02 PM in reply to Rich Mason
Ok. Here it is. "Ayn Rand." That says it all. Her followers are the same as Trekkies, bound up in the visions of fiction.
Where were you when Alan Greenspan admitted that reality did not follow his Randian principles?
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 9:00 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Cal Gal,
surely you can do better
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 7:44 PM in reply to jdb316
How odd that there isn't any audio or video with this story. This wouldn't be Democrat victimology would it? Or just plain lying? I'm reserving judgement until I see proof.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 7:57 PM in reply to shooter242
You don't even disguise you ignorance do you?
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Poop_is_Food
March 20, 2010 7:58 PM in reply to shooter242
Barney might be a homo, but he's no pussy. He wouldn't make something like this up just to score political sympathy points.
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DirtyLibrul
March 20, 2010 8:02 PM in reply to shooter242
Hey, good point. Because teabaggers aren't know for such behavior. I would be sooooo weird for them to use this kind of language. Go troll elsewhere please.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 8:27 PM in reply to DirtyLibrul
LOL. There's no prejudice here is there? No name calling? No vitriol at all?
There's also no proof so far, just sound and fury signifying nothing. You folks and Senator Proxmire have a lot in common... the only thing that counts is the seriousness of the charges.
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Economides
March 20, 2010 8:34 PM in reply to shooter242
Proxmire?
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cinesimon
March 20, 2010 8:53 PM in reply to shooter242
No proof? Have you seen the signs?
I'm sure you also believe Obama is not a citizen because you weren't at the birth.
And since when did you ever need evidence for you to believe the things YOU believe? Almost every line you spew is nonsense and lies.
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glblank
March 20, 2010 8:57 PM in reply to shooter242
I'll see your Proxmire and raise you a Preston Brooks,....fool
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:13 PM in reply to shooter242
Stupid shitstain liars are appropriately called "Stupid shitstain liar." Is that what you are whining about?
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arias
March 20, 2010 9:35 PM in reply to shooter242
Holy shit. A bagger requiring proof? Demanding proof? You might want to go co-mingle amongst your brethren because that just simply isn't their modus operandi. Sorry bub.
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SleepinJeezus
March 20, 2010 10:14 PM in reply to shooter242
Senator Proxmire?
Please explain. The very first campaign I ever worked was for Senator Bill Proxmire, may God rest his soul. He was a patriot above reproach, and I can't say we have ever benefitted from having the likes of him grace the Senate since his retirement.
I want to hear details of what scurrilous insinuation you are making here, shooter. I would otherwise entertain an apology.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 10:38 PM in reply to SleepinJeezus
You get my apology, it was Biden that chaired the Judiciary committee investigating Anita Hill's charges.
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SleepinJeezus
March 20, 2010 11:26 PM in reply to shooter242
Apology accepted. Thanks!
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bill57
March 21, 2010 1:25 AM in reply to shooter242
shut up fool.
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JNagarya
March 21, 2010 6:55 AM in reply to shooter242
There is proof: journalists who aren't members of Congress, or Democrats, reported it.
Watch youtube: teapartiers are so blindly arrogant that doubtless they'll post their own videotaping of the hate-speech you approve.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 2:27 PM in reply to JNagarya
I believe that journalists reported Franks' and Lewis' claims not the event itself. If I'm mistaken about that, how sad that these journalists had misplaced their cameras and recording devices. (wink) But I absolutely agree that if there is any proof it will probably show itself on YouTube or elsewhere. Absent proof, isn't it reasonable to at least question a report that would be, let's face it, "self serving"? I think we can also agree that there are racists and homophobes on many sides of many arguments. That the world's full of imperfect people isn't something that should determine whether an idea is good or bad. Let's stipulate for the moment, that some people, opposed to an ever-expanding state, are also racists or homophobes. Does that invalidate the idea of being in opposition to an ever expanding state? My second question is, do you believe that a majority of people opposed to an ever expanding state are racists and homophobes. You have been selected for a random test to see if there is any "reason" on this site. By all means feel free to respond with vitriol and ridicule or otherwise--your choice. Repeat this is only a test...
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 3:11 PM in reply to Rich Mason
You might have had a point, but the Republicans BEGAN their debate against health care reform using lies and scurrilous name calling to whip up the sadly misinformed into a baseless fury.
Remember "death panels"? Remember "totalitarian"? I heard that one yesterday.
Pray tell me, how can a fiercely debated, democratically passed piece of legistation be "totalitarian"? It may be unwise, it may be unconstitutional (although I think this legislation is neither), but how can it be "totalitarian"?
The best thing that could happen for entrepreneurs and small businesses, and for revitalization of creativity in our economy, would to be to break the link between employing people and paying for their health care. This legislation does not do that. Single payer would. But this is the best we can get right now toward that goal. And it is a first step to a more rational health care for ALL Americans.
By the way, remember the words "the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" ... if you can't get health care, you can lose your life. I truly think that health care is not only a HUMAN right, but an AMERICAN right as well.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 4:21 PM in reply to Cal Gal
how can a fiercely debated, democratically passed piece of legistation be "totalitarian"
I'll shoot for a short answer this time...
George Bush was "democratically elected" twice. Have you or anyone else on this blog ever referred to anything he ever did or any policy he ever supported as "totalitarian"?
If you try to come on this blog and say "no", then your punishment will be a "long answer".
You should probably quit while you're ahead. (smile)
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:13 PM in reply to Rich Mason
Nope, never did refer to him as a "totalitarian." A fascist, yes, but not all fascists HAVE to be totalitarian. You might look it up. Just a hint, it's sort of like "dictator." You can have them on the right, you can have them on the left, but they are NOT democratic.
Oh, and BTW, even IF I had call Dim Son a "totalitarian," what does that have to do with whether the health care reform bill is "totalitarian."
Saying "you said it about Bush" is not a rhetorical argument. It's a cheap whine.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 9:55 PM in reply to Cal Gal
"Saying "you said it about Bush" is not a rhetorical argument. It's a cheap whine."
and saying a group of people said this or that with no evidence is also not excused by the fact that another group of people characterized something you support in a way you don't agree with.
I won't "whine" if you won't slander, deal?
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Jon M
March 23, 2010 9:53 PM in reply to Rich Mason
George Bush was "democratically elected" twice
C'mon Rich didn't the supreme court have to intercede in 2000 then make a verdict to stop counting votes on expediancy. It seems to me that the 2000 vote was in violation to our voting laws.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 4:28 PM in reply to Cal Gal
By the way, remember the words "the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" ... if you can't get health care, you can lose your life. I truly think that health care is not only a HUMAN right, but an AMERICAN right as well.
We'll make death illegal in the next health care bill. That should take care of it.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:18 PM in reply to Rich Mason
Now you're just grasping as straws. Time for you to go ahead with that long answer about how democracy is totalitarian.
And I dare you to do it without mentioning any writers of fiction.
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 10:00 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Could I start with Jefferson?
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 2:57 AM in reply to Rich Mason
One can get the facts, or one can stick with feigned-ignorance belief --
"I believe that journalists reported Franks' and Lewis' claims not the event itself."
The media reported a range of facts, including the assertions of Lewis' and Franks' (you leave out the Congressman who was spit on for being black) ASSOCIATES. And including their own WITNESSING of the incidents.
And now the GOP and Tea Party are publicly ADMITTING the incidents occurred by trying to "distance" themselves from themselves concerning same.
You might try truth instead of lying: at very least it results in less foul-smelling breath.
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Spiffarino
March 22, 2010 10:25 AM in reply to Rich Mason
No.
The author of the article specifically said he heard it in Barney Frank's case:
Early this afternoon, standing outside a Democratic whip meeting in the Longworth House office building, I watched Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) make his way out the door, en route to the neighboring Rayburn building. As he rounded the corner toward the exit, wading through a huge crowd of tea partiers and other health care protesters, an elderly white man screamed "Barney, you faggot"--a line that caused dozens of his confederates to erupt in laughter.
You've been accused of being disingenuous in this thread, but I withheld judgment. However, you just proved you either didn't read the article or you didn't understand it. In either case, it speaks directly to your credibility.
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psyberian
March 20, 2010 8:12 PM in reply to shooter242
You? Reserving judgement? ROFLMAO!
Sorry about your Teabag buddies losing control and embarrassing you... oh, wait -- I'm not.
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Buckeye Terrorist Fist Jab Nation
March 20, 2010 8:18 PM in reply to psyberian
Word.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:12 PM in reply to shooter242
Typical shitstain nonsense from a stupid liar.
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dick_data
March 20, 2010 9:18 PM in reply to shooter242
Does that also apply to Obams's birth certificate??? Just asking.
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Model271
March 20, 2010 9:19 PM in reply to shooter242
"Shooter Two for Two" -- LOL.
Not by chance does the article refer to the yelling teabagger and his "confederates" (or should that be Confederates?").
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Jackster
March 20, 2010 9:45 PM in reply to shooter242
Check your favorite teabagger blog, seems they had cameras all over this.
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theWalrus
March 20, 2010 9:50 PM in reply to shooter242
You're capable of judgement?
I.don't.think.so.
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neesy08
March 20, 2010 9:54 PM in reply to shooter242
don't make me laugh. you are asking this question in regards to the gop too, right? after all, they just used a hoax draft that allegedly stated the dems were not playing nice about the hcr bill.orthe lies and rhetoric that the gop and faux news have espoused since obama's inauguration?
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Libertine
March 20, 2010 9:58 PM in reply to shooter242
Proof? How about someone being arrested by Capitol police for calling Rep. Emanuel Cleaver a N****r and then spitting on him? Cleaver chose not to press charges but if the 'person' was arrested I am thinking it is pretty credible proof. Nice people you run with shooter...
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 10:15 PM in reply to Libertine
Sorry bud, but you aren't trustworthy, and neither are the supposed witnesses. Until I see it or hear it, it didn't happen. You know, the old "innocent before proven guilty" meme.
Considering the absence of any recording in what has to be the most recorded era ever, I'd say you all are idiots, though useful ones to be sure.
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Libertine
March 20, 2010 10:19 PM in reply to shooter242
Read my lips idiot...he was arrested. I am sure the Capitol police have all that info and probably the info on a few others who were also arrested. I am equally sure many here will be looking into the details and posting them in the upcoming days. Finally the tea baggers are exposed for what they really are...racists who can't deal with the fact that America elected a president of color. And it will be documented...
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mophan
March 20, 2010 11:54 PM in reply to Libertine
The revolution will be televised!
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bill57
March 21, 2010 1:27 AM in reply to Libertine
you're trying to reason with a teabagger.
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Rob_The_A_Hole
March 21, 2010 11:31 AM in reply to Libertine
Does arrest equal guilt? wouldn't that whole "innocent until proven guilty" ideology come into play here if he was arrested?
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Libertine
March 21, 2010 11:38 AM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
Oh well I guess he is innocent because Cleaver chose not to press charges. I guess I've been learned...not.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 11:37 PM in reply to shooter242
What a shitstain.
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FawkesFOX
March 20, 2010 11:55 PM in reply to shooter242
Equally sorry, but your judgment has no value. The only reason to respond to you is to help you remember that nobody's buying your denials, probably not even you.
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farnsworth
March 21, 2010 12:11 AM in reply to FawkesFOX
You can bet he swallows anything Beck or Palin or Bachmann says.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 3:17 PM in reply to farnsworth
And that's why he's a birther. He wasn't on hand in Hawaii to SEE Obama being born.
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monel9959
March 21, 2010 11:57 AM in reply to FawkesFOX
He will probably fall back on some grossly edited video footage cooked up by his personal propaganda station, Fux.
Funny, but if you look at the major MSM network web sites, only two mention the incident in sub-headings and, of course, Fux camoflages it in a sub-heading titled "Emotions run high...".
The MSM has had top "reporters" up every prominent player's butt to get news of this legislation's failure. Now when some of the top people are assaulted by a bunch of bigots, shouldn't there be a lot more reporting of it.
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ghot
March 21, 2010 12:04 AM in reply to shooter242
i don't suppose you saw or heard yourself grow a brain... there seem to be several witnesses that would deny that it ever happened.
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Spiffarino
March 22, 2010 10:35 AM in reply to shooter242
As the eminently quotable Samuel Johnson once said, "Sir, I have found you an argument; I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
In typical GOP/Teabagger fashion you wear your blinders proudly.
You remind me of the guy with taped-together glasses coming out of the restroom with toilet paper stuck to his shoe. You stroll along, basking in all the attention, and you have no idea that all the snickering is happening at your expense.
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TexasFilly
March 20, 2010 8:44 PM in reply to jdb316
What else can you expect from the Christian Right? They are neither.
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Hornito
March 20, 2010 11:05 PM in reply to jdb316
Fact is, these ignorant bastar*ds want another Civil War, and being "civil" is the last thing on their minds. They're using HCR and other issues to fan the flames of civil strife and revolution. One only has to listen to Beck or Bachman for five minutes to know this. I say, LET'S GIVE IT TO THEM!
They think all progressives are wimpy, stupid, unarmed idiots, who won't fight for their beliefs. Little do they know, there are millions of progressives and liberals who love this nation (and what it once stood for), and will fight to prevent it from falling into the hands of fascist wingers like the Tea Party Nuts. When a two fingered peace sign turns into a poke in the eye, perhaps that will get their attention.
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mophan
March 20, 2010 11:58 PM in reply to Hornito
Progressives get called "spineless, wimps" from other progressives, and "ignorant, whiney, fools" from so-called centrists.
You have to love this country and the "fascist" leader it elected. Unbelievable.
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Sailormarlowe
March 21, 2010 6:14 AM in reply to jdb316
But if Bill Maher or Kathy Griffin were spewing their filth, you pansy libs would be all a-titter, right?
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LarsThorwald
March 21, 2010 2:14 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
You are losing. Get over it.
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AhTrini1
March 21, 2010 8:55 AM in reply to jdb316
Just In: MSNBC is reporting the Democrats HAVE the votes to pass HISTORIC healthcare reform!!!!!
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AhTrini1
March 21, 2010 9:54 AM in reply to jdb316
Sanchez from CA, whose district went 60% for Obama is voting NO!
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AhTrini1
March 21, 2010 10:00 AM in reply to jdb316
Sanchez from CA, whose district went 60% for Obama is voting NO!
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 3:22 PM in reply to AhTrini1
Did you post twice because BOTH Sanchez sisters from California are voting no? Just askin' (not that I haven't double posted ... I just wanted to point out there are TWO Sanchez's from CA)
I can't really imagine EITHER of them voting "no" however.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 7:00 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Not true. Both voted Yes. Loretta was out of town but showed up this morning and voted Yes
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SequimWA
March 21, 2010 11:08 AM in reply to jdb316
Where is the outrage? When Harry Reid said Obama was "a black man," the Republicans called for him to resign. Yesterday, outside our Capitol Building, black Democrats were spat upon and called N--, and the Republicans shrug. "People are angry."
This breaks my heart. Democrats need to stand up and point this out!!!
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 6:46 PM in reply to jdb316
Here is the "proof" of the incident. I'm a little surprised that after all this talk, I was the one who had to come up here and post this "proof" right under the article. You would think that all the people are concerned about this would have been eager to post this proof and yet, "no", it was left to little ole me to do it. Here ya go.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rep-lewis-called-n-word-tea-party-prote
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 6:58 PM in reply to jdb316
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rep-lewis-called-n-word-tea-party-prote
Here is the "proof". Odd that anyone else concerned about this story hasn't posted the "proof" prominently near the story so that it could be seen by all. Some of us hearing impaired like myself are unable to hear it. If anyone who can hear the epithets reported to have been spoken, would be kind enough to note how many seconds into the recording they can hear these epithets,I would then be able to listen more carefully so that maybe I could hear them I sure would appreciate anyone's help on this. Thanks in advance.
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 6:05 PM
This is what I've been saying over and over again here. You cannot have a debate of any kind with people who refuse to acknowledge fact. You cannot have CIVIL debate with racist scumbags like these. Racist scumbags like these are the base of the GOP and the entirety of the Tea Baggers movement. Tell them to fuck themselves to their faces when encountering them. There is no common ground and there never will be. In the words of Zack De La Rocha: Know Your Enemy.
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JohnW1141
March 20, 2010 6:09 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Max,
exactly.
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Measure for Measure
March 20, 2010 7:14 PM in reply to Max Thrax
I disagree. Instead, do everything possible to make them look bad. On camera.
Remember, to this day the left gets tarred by the actions of a handful of wackos in the 1960s and early 1970s.
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CityGuy
March 20, 2010 8:28 PM in reply to Measure for Measure
Agree completely. And in the words of Hawkeye Pierce: Know your enema!
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 8:54 PM in reply to Measure for Measure
Except that the media won't run whatever you get on camera. Tell em 'fuck off' to their faces, we're way past politeness at this point.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 10:48 PM in reply to Measure for Measure
Absolutely correct.
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oleeb
March 20, 2010 9:48 PM in reply to Max Thrax
You're right on the money here Max.
But sadly many of our Democratic friends don't get it. For the same reason you cannot "reason" with say a Grizzly Bear, it is idiotic to try and reason with the Republicans of today. They are irrational and aren't here to "reason". Their sole purpose is to grab all the power they can and use it wantonly for whatever suits their fancy. They don't give two shits about the good of the country or any of that other malarky. And it isn't as though they make a secret of it either. The stupidity of Democrats wanting to play parlor games with these barbarians is maddening. These people mean to wreck the nation in order to hold power. It's just that simple. We don't need to debate them we need to fight them. We need to fight fire with fire instead of looking on incrddulously and their indecorous behavior. I think most Democrats around the country know this but they are waiting for their leaders to get a clue. Between Obama, Reid and Pelosi they have yet to assemble even the first clue.
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theWalrus
March 20, 2010 9:52 PM in reply to Max Thrax
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions"
-Thomas Jefferson
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jchaus
March 20, 2010 6:05 PM
Spread this. Spread it. Get it in the news. Everywhere.
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 6:12 PM in reply to jchaus
Something tells me the MSM is going to mostly sidestep this.
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docrocktex
March 20, 2010 6:32 PM in reply to Max Thrax
CNN's Dana Bash covered it, she actually witnessed their attack on Rep. Frank.
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patmcgrowen
March 20, 2010 7:01 PM in reply to Max Thrax
I also saw it on ABC News tonight as well. It was just a quick mention, but it was on there.
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hewhohasnoname
March 20, 2010 9:01 PM in reply to patmcgrowen
NBC News made absolutely no mention of it. But, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. They have a right-leaning weekend crew.
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Dakotahgeo, M. Div. Pastor/Chaplain
March 20, 2010 7:40 PM in reply to Max Thrax
And the print news business wonders why their readership is dropping like a rock. I rea dfor the local news and after that, I let the rest of the people at the Library read it... IF they are interested. If you want unbiased news, go international!
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JohnW1141
March 20, 2010 6:05 PM
The Capitol police should have called for reinforcements. How can they allow this kind of shit to go on in the halls of Congress?
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oleeb
March 20, 2010 6:10 PM in reply to JohnW1141
As long as they're racist right wingers and not hippies John, they get all kinds of leeway that lefties don't.
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patmcgrowen
March 20, 2010 7:02 PM in reply to oleeb
But they arrest 7 war protesters, interesting.
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EastWest
March 20, 2010 7:02 PM in reply to oleeb
IOKIYAR.
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Forestdweller
March 20, 2010 8:49 PM in reply to EastWest
And the police in NJ went out of their way to track down and arrest a 16 yo punk for bias, harrassment and intimidation because of a stupid, racist prank over a Wal*Mart intercom (not even employing the n-word). While the Capitol Police let the Teabaggers get away with their vileness, at least we know it's pretty hard to intimidate a civil rights veteran like John Lewis.
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 6:06 PM
I don't believe this! Everybody knows that the teabaggers aren't racists or homophobes. They just care about the size of government. They would never say such things!!!!
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 6:15 PM in reply to FreeRider
They've been on a lot of boards including this one trying to convince us that people of all political stripes are angry and joining the Tea Baggers and attempting to drum up liberal support, amazingly. They forget that liberals are typically smarter than conservatives and that their attempts at smokescreens are laughably transparent.
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 6:19 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Smokescreens? You mean like you claiming you were an outraged Democrat one minute then a Green the next?
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 6:25 PM in reply to FreeRider
I am a Green, so what? I vote Green in every state and local election when one is available, if not I take a look at the Dem candidate. Dems generally aren't liberal enough for me. You're point?
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 6:39 PM in reply to Max Thrax
It's no big deal that you're a Green, except that you lied and said you were a lifelong Democrat who used the term "Democrat party" to show your disrespect from within.
You're like all those "liberals" and "Obama voters" who want to kill HCR--a liar who makes up "facts" to give your position more credibility.
Now, go vote for Cynthia "9/11 Truther" McKinney and get the fuck out of Democratic party business.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 7:59 PM in reply to FreeRider
TPM is not running this but this is a must see. Check it out. It's Obama with the Dems today.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/obama-quotes-lincoln-to-h_n_507124.html
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 8:55 PM in reply to FreeRider
Fuck you punk. I never said I was a lifelong Dem, said I used to be a Dem who switched. Maybe if you mother hadn't fucked her brother you might have been born with some brains asshole.
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 9:01 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Your post is here as proof of your lying bullshit.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:17 PM in reply to FreeRider
Why are you so hateful to people who are at least generally on your side? Why don't you save your vitriol for the real enemy?
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 9:42 PM in reply to farnsworth
People who lobby to kill HCR are not "generally" or even remotely on my side.
People who call the president a lying, warmongering, corporate whore are not "generally" or even remotely on my side.
People who say the president is no different from Bush are not "generally" or even remotely on my side.
People who remain silent about or diminish the accomplishments of this president and this congress are not "generally" or even remotely on my side.
People who insist on damaging their own party in the fucked up belief that it makes them more pure are not "generally" or even remotely on my side.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:58 PM in reply to FreeRider
You aren't very discriminating in your angry attacks. Really, what is your point? Not everyone you have attacked fits your own descriptions.
BTW, I think Obama has done a terrible job for the most part in his first fourteen months in office. He pointless attempts at reasonableness and bipartisanship have weakened his positions on everything, especially health care. But that doesn't mean I would have rather had Clinton, much less McCain. It means I am disappointed in Obama's ineptitude. Is it OK for me to say that, since I am not a Democrat? Or are you going to spew poison at me too?
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 10:07 PM in reply to farnsworth
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know all about the inept president who passed an $800B stimulus, the most progressive budget since LBJ and is on the verge of achieving what 7 other presidents have failed.
That inept Obama who prevented another Great Depression.
That inept Obama who has made more headway in Af-Pak in one year than Bush did in 8.
That inept Obama who reached out to the other side but pushed ahead with his/Democratic priorities in face of their stonewall objections.
Obama is not inept. He's also not the Messiah. That's what you find so disappointing.
Folks like you always whine about Obama needing to face reality while refusing to face the reality that he is president, not a king, with an extremely recalcitrant opposition party.
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Scott in PacNW
March 20, 2010 11:04 PM in reply to FreeRider
Ah, you're an endless ray of sunshine.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 11:35 PM in reply to FreeRider
Did I say one word about facing reality? No, I did not. But you don't hesitate to accuse me of it, then blame me for it.
Let's talk about ineptitude: Republicans may be vile, but they know how to pass legislation. Obama caved on single payer with virtually no opposition. He caved on public option when a few opponents raised an objection. The current bill contains a huge give-away to insurance companies.
A public option is crucial. And he didn't even try.
I have Multiple Sclerosis. I would have no insurance if not for the state-sponsored public option here in Oklahoma. It is very restrictive, and they are trying to take it away from me. As long as I dot every i and cross every t I can keep it. But I can't earn too much money or get a good job or I lose it.
This bill should have had a public option in it. I am not saying Obama would have been successful if he had tried to include it, but we will never know since he didn't try.
I never even implied I thought Obama was the messiah. The idea never entered my head. But you don't mind claiming I do believe it, and claiming that is the source of my disappointment, and blaming me for that belief. That is very Republican of you.
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FreeRider
March 21, 2010 12:19 AM in reply to farnsworth
I'm so sick of wankers who couldn't get elected fart sniffer telling the president how he should do his fucking job.
IMO, he's done a damn fine job--considering his inability rule by fiat.
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farnsworth
March 21, 2010 12:39 AM in reply to FreeRider
You disagree with my clearly stated arguments, so I am a wanker. You don't even attempt to respond, you just put words in my mouth and call me names.
Yup, you clearly qualify for the Republican party.
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FreeRider
March 21, 2010 1:14 AM in reply to farnsworth
*yawn* I'm so not interested in debating those who disappointed that the president hasn't being their liberal wet dream. Grow up.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 12:09 AM in reply to FreeRider
Before reading anything else you might have to say later, I must interject that I actually agree with you 100% on this posting.
My disagreements have never been about accomplishments. They have normally been about strategy, but I am not the one that was able to get myself elected president. So, I am unqualified to speak in the matter of strategy except to state my own opinion.
Carry on.
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FreeRider
March 21, 2010 1:15 AM in reply to mophan
Thanks! I don't always agree with Obama's strategy but I can barely run my own household so who am I to second-guess him?
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mophan
March 21, 2010 1:40 AM in reply to FreeRider
LOL. You are welcomed! ; )
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farnsworth
March 21, 2010 8:48 AM in reply to FreeRider
I get it now! You are not competent so you project your own weaknesses on others. Too bad that results in putting words in their mouths spewing venom. If you are so pathetic, why don't you just shut up?
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FreeRider
March 21, 2010 9:02 AM in reply to farnsworth
Another wanker "disappointed" because the president didn't give him a pony and a Lexus.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 5:56 PM in reply to FreeRider
I'm with you on this one. Friends of my enemies are NOT my friends.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
March 20, 2010 10:11 PM in reply to Max Thrax
You said it before Max, arguing with me over that pussy Dylan Ratigan screaming at Wasserman-Shulz...you said you were a lifelong Dem and if you dont like the dem you vote Green and have started to become a Green. Better get your head out of your ass and figure out what you are.
Oh yes, and dont forget your signature sign off of "Go fuck yourself"...I miss that.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:24 PM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
I heart Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. She's one Dem who doesn't let the ReThugs talk over her and interrupt her. She's the best they've got on that account on shows like Hardball, etc.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
March 21, 2010 6:54 PM in reply to Cal Gal
She rocks...
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 8:56 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Oh, and fuck you.
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 9:03 PM in reply to Max Thrax
You do realize that you replied to yourself, don't you? I know you enjoy whacking off but please . . .
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Marinus van der Lubbe
March 20, 2010 10:26 PM in reply to FreeRider
True dat...another lying prick.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:27 PM in reply to FreeRider
LOL. What a tool!
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Marinus van der Lubbe
March 20, 2010 7:40 PM in reply to FreeRider
Well, they finally just came out and said it..no more cover for the assholes who troll in here and talk so much shit about how they never saw or heard anything racist at the meetings. Gloves are off now.
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CityGuy
March 20, 2010 8:32 PM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
Amen Marinus! They're lying, racist, homophobes. And those are almost endearing characteristics compared to their hypocrisy.
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AhTrini1
March 20, 2010 9:58 PM in reply to FreeRider
NEVER! They have been framed by lefties infiltrating their ranks to embarrass them. Poor folks, they can't get a break, can they?
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GayIthacan
March 20, 2010 6:06 PM
But wait - don'r tou remember hen DEMOCRATS who opposed the Bush Irq invasion and his tax cut legislation swarmed Capitol hill and screamed "Faggot!" at Larry Craig and 'Nigger!' at Condoleeza Rice?
Oh - right - me either........
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RuckMaker
March 20, 2010 6:23 PM in reply to GayIthacan
What makes you think these aren't the same people ???
Health care reform ?? War in Iraq ?? They haven't got the intelligence to think past the last thing they heard Sarah Palin read off her hand.
The only "issue" they're protesting is their "right" to behave like stupid, violent animals.
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arias
March 20, 2010 9:39 PM in reply to RuckMaker
I think Gavathaca was being sarcastic.
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nanorich
March 20, 2010 6:25 PM in reply to GayIthacan
Projecting again?
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NotBornEveryMinute
March 20, 2010 7:14 PM in reply to nanorich
Sarcasm impaired?
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oleeb
March 20, 2010 6:07 PM
Does this come as any sort of surprise to anyone?
These people have been wanting to scream N****R!!!!! since Obama got the Democratic nomination and it's their racism that gives such "white heat" (pardon me I couldn't resist)energy to their idiotic and irrational teabagging bullshit. Racism with this crowd goes hand in hand with the sort of juvenile homophobia they displayed toward Barney Frank as well.
Unfortunately, our President's mollycoddling bipartisanship fantasy only encourages these morons and their Republican leaders. These crackers need to get their asses whooped (metaphorically) in a very public way. It's the only thing they understand. As long as our leaders like Obama refuse to get in the ring and specifically kick their asses, they will only continue to spin out of control and please note, this isn't a fire that burns itself out. The only way to stop it is to stomp it out and smother it once and for all. There's no nicing these assholes to death. Doesn't work that way.
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musgrove
March 20, 2010 6:11 PM in reply to oleeb
isnt passing HCR, a way to kick their ass? They FAILED, and they will know it.
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 6:22 PM in reply to musgrove
No, because those numbskulls will actually benefit from reform.
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RuckMaker
March 20, 2010 6:25 PM in reply to jenesq
No, it will only make them angrier and possibly more subversive.
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 6:27 PM in reply to RuckMaker
It's true that these dipshits are incapable of grasping where the benefits they get come from (eg "get your government hands off my medicare!") but the fact remains that they will benefit from reform whether or not they ever admit it.
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oleeb
March 20, 2010 9:56 PM in reply to musgrove
No. You misunderstand. Humiliating them on an issue will have no impact on them.
These people have to be beaten into dust, publicly denounced, declared the losers they are, and renounced by civil society. They need to be put in their place, not on healthcare, but put in their place period. The beast was chained up for years after the New Deal locked them away but it has gotten loose again and until it is made crystal clear that this sort of racist, homophobic, hooliganism is shunned in our nation they will continue and keep getting more and more extreme.
These are not law abiding citizens who happen to hold an opposing point of view. They are brown shirts waiting to happen and they aren't being very subtle about it either. These people hold the Constitution in contempt, they are the shock troops for the aughoritarian party in the US. They do not believe in equality before the law, they do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in white supremacy and a twisted, 18th century vision of America.
These are the ranks from which arise organizations like the Klan and there is a history of real and ghastly violence from the racist right wing fringe. That is who we're dealing with here.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:24 AM in reply to oleeb
You better get used to us, because on Election Day in November we are going to take back the House, and maybe the Senate. We will roll back this insane bill piece by piece. We will tie it up in the courts. We will refuse to fund it. Barack will still have veto power, but he can't force a GOP congress to pass or fund anything.
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gonzo
March 21, 2010 8:28 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
You FUCKING LOST. Can't wait till your head explodes in November and you haven't taken anything back, you fucking teapartying moron.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 8:48 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
The only thing you are going to do on election day is take your sorry asses back to the holes you crawled out of with your tails between your legs.
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oleeb
March 21, 2010 11:43 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
You dumbass crackers are so stupid you still don't realize you lost the Civil War let alone the 08 elections. Fuck you.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:16 PM in reply to oleeb
Your argument is very reasoned and persuasive!!!
Snork!
Have you read the polls, the polls by Democrat pollsters??? You guys are going to get creamed in November!!!
BWAAAAhahahahahahahahahhaaaaa!!!
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oleeb
March 21, 2010 2:39 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Creamed perhaps. But not by the likes of you asshole.
What you conveniently forget and are too stupid to see is that everyone who votes against the D's isn't in agreement with assholes like yourself. You are an extreme minority and the only reason people vote Republican is because that's the only other choice. Again, I remind you and the rest of the crackers to keep it up so we can kick your ass again. Fuck you.
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 3:23 PM in reply to oleeb
Crackers. Nice. The same shit you are after the Tea Party for. Hypocrisy, thy name is you.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:39 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Polls in March mean SO MUCH about what happens in November. Just ask the Real President Bush about how he defeated Bill Clinton to gain his second term.
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 6:15 PM in reply to oleeb
It's Obama's fault that racists and homophobes are racists and homophobes and use racist and homophobic slurs?
There would be no ugly protests and/or racism if Obama had only never tried to negotiate with Republicans.
When Obama tries to negotiate with Republicans, the terrorists win.
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 6:25 PM in reply to FreeRider
*Smacks forehead* God, why didn't I think of this? Trying to be nice to people just incites them to hatred and violence! Why, oh why, didn't Obama just shove his agenda down their throats for real, without trying to engage in constructive bipartisanship? That wouldn't have made them mad at all! It's being nice that made them angry racist lunatics!
I'm so glad that's been cleared up for me! ;-)
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 6:41 PM in reply to jenesq
Glad to be of assistance.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 7:03 PM in reply to jenesq
Bush put a significant damper on protest by rigorously limiting the access of protesters to publicly visible sites relegating them instead to protest zones. His actions were, in my view often unConstitutional, amounting to an infringement of the right to peaceable assemble and petition the government.
Obama, by fawning on those politicians who are attempting to knife him politically, almost wears a 'kick me' sign. What is meant to be civility from strength is read by certain types of authoritarians as weakness.
It is not necessary to allow rowdy behavior -- the Constitutional guarantees run to peaceable assembly. If the tea baggers behave like a mob, they should be treated like a mob. Maybe then they would learn to control their own behavior.
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 7:17 PM in reply to AJM
I guess you think MLK had it coming, too, seeing as how he tried to be nice. @@ Jesus, blaming the victim is so incredibly stupid.
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calbearinillinois
March 21, 2010 1:57 PM in reply to jenesq
I don't read the above comments as blaming the victim. Obama's leadership - and let me be clear, I view it as true leadership to engage one's enemy in a civil and forthright manner, even when you have no obligation to do so - is so jarring for folks on the right that expected him to act like they would (imposing unilateral, extreme action) that they have been unable or unwilling to see that he's being honest about his intentions. So they believe every fantastic conspiracy (Death Panels, Retraining camps, disarming white people, etc.) they hear, because it is actually easier for them to accept this rather than believing the "other" is acting with decency and openness. So some folks on the left react to this ridiculousness by opining that since the right is going to reject anything Obama does anyways, he might as well get his money's worth and actually act like Bush did, only on the left. The leaders of both the Hindu and Muslim factions under Gandhi, the more extreme elements of the peace movements in Israel who thought Rabin was "weak", and the Nation of Islam/Black Panthers/more hardline student movements involved with civil rights who thought MLK was too complicit with the white power structure all made similar comments - "any means necessary" was better to them than constant marching and taking beatings without delivering any in return.
I supported Obama and still do because he isn't a left wing version of Bush insisting on a radical left agenda. I respect his efforts at transforming the debate, and recognize that the ever shriller anger on the right is the natural response to his conduct. But I also understand the frustration of people who are more concerned with short term policy outcomes than long term legacies, and that seems to be what folks are expressing here.
Personally, I hope Obama keeps searching for consensus but ultimately insisting on change for the better of all Americans. My only fear is that like Lincoln, MLK, Gandhi, Rabin and Sadat (throw in Harvey Milk, JFK and RFK too, probably) before him, the most reasonable but insistant man seeking transformation will become too tempting a target for someone who only sees change as a challenge to their way of life. The prevelance of firearms references and threats of violence at these Tea Party rallies are much more frightening than the naked homophobia and racism, because while the latter is ugly, the former if acted upon would be a horrible tragedy.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:42 PM in reply to FreeRider
Um, is that snark? Because it's pretty darned funny.
I'm just staring to think maybe you're the best snark artist we've ever seen at TPM.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:44 PM in reply to Cal Gal
I think I misread. Please ignore the comment this is in response to.
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plan69
March 20, 2010 6:35 PM in reply to oleeb
People screaming ni**er and fag*ot in the halls of Congress is somehow Obamas fault? Please....I'm not sure what "ass kicking" you think Obama could do to prevent people from being racist asswipes but, even if he did "kick their ass" as you say, I doubt it would change them for a second. It sounds like you're saying that his attempt at legislative bipartisanship has somehow enabled racism. That just doesn't make sense at best and, is unnuanced at worst. Who better to define the perpetrators than the perpetrators themselves? They've either violated hat crime laws or are allowed to say that shit because they have the freedom of speech to do so. But if you are talking about going outside of the law in some sort of caveman style vigilante justice then I'd say that's no better than showing up to a rally with an assault rifle.
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plan69
March 20, 2010 6:37 PM in reply to plan69
hat crimes! hahaha! oh well. will preview next time!
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 7:16 PM in reply to plan69
Have you seen the sloganed huntin' caps and fake tricorns these morons wear? They do commit hat crimes.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:47 PM in reply to jenesq
Love the tricorns with the slogan t-shirts. SO "founding fathers" a fashion statement.
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Viva!America!
March 20, 2010 6:40 PM in reply to oleeb
There once was a teeny tiny part of me that believed your objections to the president and his policies were on the level, but that garbage comment just blew that away.
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 6:43 PM in reply to Viva!America!
I figured this prick out eons ago. He's a fucking firebagger and everything bad that happens in the world or will happen is Obama's fault.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 8:04 PM in reply to FreeRider
Shit.. have you ever read his posts in the Cafe? This guy is a maniac. he and his friend Rutabaga Ridgepole. Two of a kind.
Also, check this out. I don't know why TPM is not linking this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/obama-quotes-lincoln-to-h_n_507124.html
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Outraged
March 20, 2010 6:45 PM in reply to oleeb
Just last night, after watching the video of the Columbus protester throwing dollar bills at the man with Parkinson's, I said to my wife "Beneath all the rhetoric, beneath all the bullshit they parrot from Fox News, what this all comes down to for these people is 'I'm not giving my money to support lazy n*****s!'".
Guess I was right.
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plan69
March 20, 2010 6:51 PM in reply to Outraged
Abso-fucking-lutely.
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StarkyLuv
March 20, 2010 10:30 PM in reply to Outraged
No offense to you but, DUUUUH!! That's what the whole thing is about.
What I find so sad is watching the media tip-toe around what the Tea Party Movement is really about. It’s not about taxes. It’s not about healthcare. It’s all about racism. It’s whites that are angry that we have a black president. Period.
They have to create things to get angry about. About how the federal government has raised their taxes (it hasn’t. In fact, they got a tax cut). About how Obama wants to take their guns. About how Obama wants to ban sport fishing. Obama is a Muslim. Obama wasn’t born in this country. etc., etc.
It’s about race. When you hear Rush Limbaugh say that HCR is “reparations”, I mean, what else do you need to hear?
They see White Privilege being lessened and the playing field evening out and they scream “I want my country back! I’m scared!”
Noone should be shocked when you see these people unhinged like they were today.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:59 PM in reply to StarkyLuv
Plus, you have to realize that on average, American's are both dumber and greedier than other "civilized" people. Was just watching a documentary about public transportation as a way to revitalize Detroit, and they covered the Acela, the fast train in Spain.
The Spanish people invested in high-speed rail in 1992 and it has so transformed their economy that cities are now angling to get it. Every city it passes through has a boon in growth and industry.
But here, we've been pussy footing around for that same period of time and don't yet have one single high-speed line, because our politicians don't think long term, they thing until the very next elections.
So sad we are so uncivilized.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 12:59 AM in reply to Outraged
A black man -- all against what they hold most dear towards their misguided conceptions of what this country is all about -- is president. President!
They have tried to hide behind their false accusations of socialist, nazi, or fascist. Communist, dictator and panther.
Oh, how their heads are exploding. Exploding with indignation and anger!
May the God, or gods, we pray to and firmly believe in keep him safe, and this democracy secure.
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jron
March 20, 2010 7:36 PM in reply to oleeb
they HAVE been screaming it, just not to my rep's face before.
and we still have "no" voters in the dem party who somehow think they can convince these guys to vote for them this fall. morons.
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geofu54
March 20, 2010 6:10 PM
What makes it even disgusting is we know this won't be reported by the MSM any way it should be.
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Backcountry
March 20, 2010 6:13 PM
Before the 2008 elections I used to think race relations had come so far in this country that we could just ditch affirmative action -- and that we all could live together in peace.
But then I saw how ugly many lower class white folks reacted to the election of Obama.
Now we're seeing protesters behaving like the crowd outside Little Rock High School in 1957 -- the year I was born.
So it's sad to say but race relations haven't progressed much in my entire lifetime and I was just too blind to see it.
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bk
March 20, 2010 6:19 PM in reply to Backcountry
I agree. It's been a huge disappointment, and down right scary.
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 6:27 PM in reply to Backcountry
You can find racism anywhere, but it is becoming more and more condensed in the South and the Heartland.
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bluebell
March 20, 2010 7:10 PM in reply to Max Thrax
It's condensed among those who are losing out and need scapegoats. That's always been true. FDR was smart enough to focus the blamme on the wealthy fat cats. If Democrats can't do that, Republicans will be happy to focus the blame on minorities and immigrants.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 7:28 PM in reply to bluebell
The absolutely WORST thing about it is they are NOT the ones who've been losing out since Obama won. They are the ones who LOST out under Bush, and the ones the Democrats are hiring to help.
But their racism has made them vulnerable to the reactionary right's scare mongering and scapegoating of President Obama.
"I want my country back ..." Well, so do I. I want it back from the greedy oligarchs to whom the Bush Administration kowtowed for 8 years. I want it back from the Wall Street "bankers" who paid themselves huge bonuses to take unsafe, unwise, and unreasonable risk. And the more risk the bigger the rewards they paid themselves. I want it back from the health insurance companies who have us by the "short hairs," because once you actually USE your insurance, you've got yourself a "pre-existing condition" and will NEVER, EVER be able to get insurance from a different company.
But the tea baggers want to get their country back from the black man, who cares how much it costs them.
I picked the wrong year to give up politics, that's for sure. From now until November it will be really interesting to see if the scare the Republicans have thrown into the sheeple will endure, or if it will slowly diminish as in a week or a month or six months their memory fades and they say, "health care? Wasn't that a big issue a while back? Well, nothing has changed for me, so I'm not sure what all the kerfluffle was about."
The racists hate will endure, but the misguided 35% or so who didn't like "the bill" because they heard it was big, bloated, a government takeover, socialism, blah blah blan ... the "independent" voters who don't care enough to really figure out which party really represents them ... they won't remember this at all in November.
Or if they do, they'll remember the hate they saw spewing from the Tea Baggers, and will go "Ugh. Those people were SO mean and shouted SO loud. I just don't like them very much. I don't really have much in common with them. I just go to work, and come home and take care of my family. My country? It seems OK. Jobs are hard to get, and the banks won't loan me money for my business, but other than that, everything seems to be going OK, and in fact improving since disaster of late 2008."
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 6:30 PM in reply to Backcountry
No, that's not true. There are lots of people who have evolved greatly on racial issues...the mere fact that Obama got elected is proof of that. What we're seeing here is the bubbling over of the lunatic fringe, who are poor losers in the best of times.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 7:06 PM in reply to jenesq
Agreed. But they need to have lines drawn against their behavior before they incite themselves to violence.
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 7:14 PM in reply to AJM
That line needs to come from the grassroots. They need to be shamed by society, not punished by the government (which would only incite them further). That means that we all need to speak up in our personal lives. During the campaign, I lost a lot of longtime friends who showed their latent racism because I called them on it (send me a photo of Barack Obama shining Sarah Palin's shoes and I'll let loose with what I think!)
These people need to experience disapproval and rejection in their everyday lives...that should be the natural consequence of racism and racist behavior. That is the only way to change people.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 7:58 PM in reply to jenesq
MLK used a very disciplined process of non-violent resistance: It was the only means he had available. Obama has all the powers of the executive branch of the government. Acting as though he were relatively powerless is unnecessary and dangerous.
Further, MLK confronted racists directly and told them they were morally wrong. He didn't tell them gently that he thought they had a point and maybe a compromise could be worked out.
Letting a mob work itself up is simply dangerous.
I don't blame people attacked by vicious dogs but I also recognize the value of taking precautions and that certain means of reacting in that situation are more effective than others.
Being convicted in court of disorderly behavior is one way people of this description can be deterred.
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Viva!America!
March 20, 2010 8:27 PM in reply to AJM
I can't f-ing believe that this is all on Obama to fix!!! Where the F are the Republicans who reward this shit? Where the F is the media to call them out? Where the F is the Left to call them out on this? From now on Obama is the only one who can fix this fucked up country? I didn't hear anyone calling for Clinton or W to fix racism.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 10:30 PM in reply to Viva!America!
You do realize Obama is President, don't you? He has the responsibility to use that power wisely and well.
"Where the F are the Republicans who reward this shit?" Precisely where you would expect them to be -- aiding and abetting and they have been called out repeatedly on this site although I agree that doing so is almost always useful and very difficult to do in excess.
Where the F is the media to call them out? Apparently the media are beginning to to report this. Can't say that the media has made much of an effort to trace the corporate masters of both the tea baggers and the Rethuglicans.
Where the F is the Left to call them out on this? Here.
The experts on the matter approved of Bill Clinton on race:
Bill Clinton has a special bond with blacks, a relationship that fueled his decision to move his post presidential office to Harlem. When his presidency ended in January 2001, Clinton's approval rating was eight-seven percent of African Americans and just 45 percent of whites viewed Clinton favorably. Part of Clinton's backing by African Americans has to do with the fact that, though he was reared in the still-often-racist South, some of his most prominent friends were black. He filled the senior ranks of his administration with black officials, stood up in favor of affirmative-action programs (when Republicans sought to dismantle them), by discussing racial issues repeatedly, publicly, and demonstrating his prodigious intellect.
From African American Registry
Their opinion of George Bush was different:
President Bush's favorable ratings among blacks were the lowest on record for any recent president, as 13.3 percent viewed him favorably. Eighty percent saw him unfavorably.
Bush should have been pressured even more on race but the country was distracted by 9/11, the Iraq War and concerns about whether we were going to remain a democracy in the face of Republican cheating.
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arias
March 20, 2010 10:04 PM in reply to AJM
I couldn't disagree more. Precisely BECAUSE of Obama's race, he's limited what he can do. Change needs to occur from within.
Remember the professor Gates controversy? Remember how the media stated matter of factly how Obama didn't have a choice, he could NOT be seen crying racism, and the minute he starts arguing along such lines that it's a losing issue for him? Remember how close he came to firing up a shitstorm simply by calling the officer's actions 'stupid' even though he was simply going by all the media reports that had implied the same thing so far? Remember how just this one line sidetracked all the subsequent conversations after the national appeal on all the major networks went to absolute waste during the post address press conference?
Or how the media has pointed out how he could not accuse his critics of racism, since once he does he becomes a Jesse Jackson clone of "angry black man charging racism" which would ignite the powder keg of controversy with charges of racism and reverse racism?
What you're claiming is ludicrous.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 10:42 PM in reply to arias
I didn't say he should reproach their racism. I said he should see that the laws against disorderly conduct are enforced. How these people were allowed to behave is an outrage on a par with the invasion of that reception and equally unsafe.
I certainly agree that our society needs to rebuke the racism of the tea baggers and that is most effectively done by society at large.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 1:09 AM in reply to AJM
A rebuke IS in order! Our voices must become soar from the outcry.
It does not just fall on Obama. It falls on the shoulders of every one of us! If we should fail to act, the consequences will be dire. To undesirable to fathom.
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StarkyLuv
March 20, 2010 10:33 PM in reply to jenesq
We are seeing the children and grandchildren of the generation that opposed The Civil Rights Movement trying to bring back "the good ol' days". But it's not going to work.
We just have to put up with their ugliness for a little while longer.
And we haven't even seen them swing into widespread violence yet. I'm afraid that's the next step. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of them attempt to assassinate a political leader or commentator. The ALWAYS resort to violence.
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bk
March 20, 2010 7:53 PM in reply to Backcountry
I agree. It's been a huge disappointment, and down right scary.
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bluestatedon
March 20, 2010 6:13 PM
""People have been just downright mean,"
Count on a Democrat to be weirdly polite and diffident; A Rethuglican would have used much more direct and strong language, which Fox would have celebrated.
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 7:11 PM in reply to bluestatedon
Actually, at this time (5:10 MST), Fox is the only cable news net with a story up about the Lewis and Frank incidents.
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 7:13 PM in reply to Morbo
On their websites. Which surprised the hell out of me.
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Libertyluvrz
March 21, 2010 9:02 AM in reply to Morbo
Yes, but they say it 'allegedly' happened, not that it did. Also, take a read at the comments about it. 19 out of 20 don't believe it actually happened, but rather that it's made up to make them look bad.
FYI, as someone who has protested *for* reform in a targeted district in NY, I have seen the teabaggers in action. I have personally heard racial epithets being hurled at some of my fellow demonstrators, and I have been called a nazi, socialist and a communist. The level of vitriol with these folks is really up there.
There are also two of them that live in my development and I know them personally. They hate their neighbors who are black, Indian and Muslim. They also worry that we have too many illegal immigrants, while still being happy to pick them up on the corner when they need help with yardwork. In other words, a bunch of upper middle class racists.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 7:45 PM in reply to Libertyluvrz
We need some good epithets of our own. "Cracker" doesn't cut the mustard. Nazi is accurate, but it's diminished by being inaptly used by them. "No, YOU'RE the Nazi. YOU'RE the Nazi" doesn't really have a lot going for it.
Maybe we don't need actual insults and can just use facts."
"Brainwashed" "Stupid" "Fool" "Blockhead" "Spittlehead" (ooo, there's a good one)
Then there in my head is the voice of Al Franken when he was on Air America shouting "LIAH" "You're a LIAH!"
Then just for fun, we could ad "Pants on FIAH!"
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Economides
March 20, 2010 8:44 PM in reply to bluestatedon
John Lewis has more courage in his left ball than you ever will. I am quite sure compared to the beating he took on the Edmund Pettis bridge, the taunts of theses assholes is not enough to incite him to get down into the muck with them.
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RocketEngineer
March 20, 2010 6:14 PM
This is the same kind of astroturf anger we witnessed during the 2000 Florida recount. It's just that this time they loosened the reigns on their loonies.
Just shows where the core of the GOP stands. It stands in the 1950's south.
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bluestatedon
March 20, 2010 6:16 PM
""It's about trying to extend a basic fundamental right to people who are less powerful."
With all due respect to Rep. Clyburn, he's avoiding the issue.
The issue is that there's a black man in the White House. End of story.
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bluesplashy
March 20, 2010 7:52 PM in reply to bluestatedon
Yep, you got it.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 8:04 PM in reply to bluesplashy
I don't think he's ignoring it. I think he's trying to avoid being an "angry black man" by stating a different and more important truth. HCR IS about helping the American people get out from under the employer/health insurance yoke.
Freeing health care coverage from employers will be a boon to both individuals AND businesses, and will allow people with, for instance, high blood pressure, to quit their cubicle jobs and really pursue their entrepreneur dreams.
ReThuglicans WANT the sheeple to be shackled to their cubicles and ruled by corporatists bosses forEVER. Never forget that.
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navamske
March 20, 2010 6:16 PM
Will we hear statements from Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and/or Scott Brown saying that although they agree with the Tea Partiers in their opposition to the bill, they condemn the bigotry and rabble-rousing? Yeah, didn't think so.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 8:10 PM in reply to navamske
waiting
waiting
waiting
tick tick tick
(tho I think if anyone could surprise me and respond as you suggest, it's Scott Brown ... so tick tick tick is especially for him. Start calling and emailing Massachusetts.)
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jfields
March 20, 2010 6:16 PM
How long would this have been tolerated if directed at Republican Congressmen during the W years? I'd say about half a second before Cheney had the Capitol Police handcuffing everyone in sight.
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Libertine
March 20, 2010 6:17 PM
It is disgraceful, despicable and completely unacceptable. It is intimidation based on hatred which is against the law. The Capitol Police should not be trying to keep order they should be arresting people and dispersing what appears to be an angry, threatening mob. Protest is one thing...and what is happening in the halls of congress is not that one thing. It is harassment pure and simple. And the R's, and whomever else is responsible for this mob (Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh?), need to be held accountable.
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TM
March 20, 2010 6:18 PM
Wow that was fast. We went from wearing a t-shirt in the wrong place getting you arrested to being able to yell the N-word at congressmen inside a federal building.
America the beautiful.
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Delores
March 20, 2010 6:18 PM
are there videos on YouTube of these disgusting bigoted people?
The Uglies.........it should be a segment on the news, and they can add in the jerks who were making fun of that man w/ Parkinson's in Ohio the other day. There are enough incidents and these people should be ridiculed for being so vile..
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rbeats
March 20, 2010 6:23 PM in reply to Delores
Fox News, turn it on, and you can watch these people every day, 24 hours a day.
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Bwakfat
March 20, 2010 6:31 PM in reply to Delores
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVAkTREmzIc
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Delores
March 20, 2010 7:08 PM in reply to Bwakfat
It looks like the person who posted this video has now removed it.........wonder if he/she posted it w/ pride and then realized how ugly it was.
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amber
March 20, 2010 6:43 PM in reply to Delores
Where the heck are the left protesters? Why are there groups of camera-wielding folks who filmed the likes of Senator Macaca? It's sickening how all of the groups who were out in force during the Bush years have vanished into thin air to let these vile, racist, violent and hateful bullies run wild. They need someone to expose them and confront them, and by confront I don't mean violently.
I'm sickened.
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Bwakfat
March 20, 2010 6:48 PM in reply to amber
We don't have the bucks to hire astroturf-protesters
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Measure for Measure
March 20, 2010 7:17 PM in reply to amber
In the 1960-70s, the left held protests while the right wrote letters to the Congressmen. The latter tends to be more effective.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 7:55 PM in reply to Measure for Measure
Yes, and we remember the disastrous results......don't we
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rbeats
March 20, 2010 6:21 PM
Fascist movements have commonly held social Darwinist views of nations, races, and societies.
They argue that in order for nations and races to survive in a world defined by perpetual national and racial conflict, nations and races must purge themselves of socially and biologically weak or degenerate people while simultaneously promoting the creation of strong people.
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dickday
March 20, 2010 6:28 PM in reply to rbeats
You got it.
I aint got nothin better than these sentiments
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Apphouse50
March 20, 2010 6:27 PM
I'm not sure which is more disgraceful: that these louts behaved so abominably, or that they were permitted to roam the halls like a filthy rabble.
Sorry, I do believe there's a level of decorum that ought to be be demanded.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 8:17 PM in reply to Apphouse50
I actually think it was smart to let them roam Congress and vent.
First, they can't say the Democrats shut them out from their right to "petition Congress."
Second, they have to had pissed off a WHOLE lot of people, including Blue Dogs and other conservative Dems.
Third, anyone truly "independent" watching them has to have said, "Hey, I've got nothing in common with those jerks."
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Leftflank
March 20, 2010 6:29 PM
Surprise, surprise. Do you think they call all the black people & gays in their group the same? Oh yeah, I forgot, they only have imaginary "opposite people" by their sides.
On the other hand, they did get to vent a little, so maybe they'll shut the hell up for a little while.
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psyclone
March 20, 2010 6:43 PM in reply to Leftflank
More likely, they'll escalate, now that they know they can get away with it.
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Apphouse50
March 20, 2010 6:49 PM in reply to psyclone
Correct. They've been empowered.
That thudding sound you hear is their chest-thumping.
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jbigss1965
March 20, 2010 6:42 PM
Without these incidents being on tape, I don't think the MSM will pay much attention to it.
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acf_ma
March 20, 2010 6:54 PM
It shows two things to me. First, it shows the level of class and intelligence of these people that they have to resort to racial and sexual epithets to express their anger. Second, it shows a belief on their part that this is becoming inevitable, and the anger is the only response they can come up with, now.
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AllanCook
March 20, 2010 6:54 PM
Is this really any surprise? The Tea Party folks have always looked like the KKK by another name to me.
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Allbiz
March 20, 2010 6:55 PM
Let me get this straight. The Capitol Police, the armed force that is assigned the responsibility of protecting our government leaders, an organization that has high tech weaponry and swat teams available if needed for crowd control, was greatly overwhelmed by a crowd of tea-partiers and had to relent. And other than the author of this report, there is no other verification, no recordings, and no tapes that these events actually took place.
Well let me add one big GUFFAW!!! for the accuracy of this report.
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 7:03 PM in reply to Allbiz
Didn't stop from believing Death Panels did it Opie?
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Tippy
March 20, 2010 7:08 PM in reply to Allbiz
Where in the heck was the media? I noticed a lack of Capitol Police each and every time camers were present along with protestors
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AJM
March 20, 2010 7:12 PM in reply to Allbiz
Perhaps you could get those gentle teabaggers to share their recordings? Perhaps share your own even?
You know that the tea baggers behavior was a disgrace or you wouldn't be attempting to pretend that it didn't happen.
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Allbiz
March 20, 2010 7:45 PM in reply to AJM
Did it ever dawn on you that maybe Brian Beutler is attempting to pretend it did happen. He seems to have nothing to confirm his allegations.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 8:08 PM in reply to Allbiz
Only 4 eyewitnesss reports including his own. I seem to have an advantage over you in that I can actually read.
Here's a fifth eyewitness:
CNN's Dana Bash covered it, she actually witnessed their attack on Rep. Frank.
Really embarrassing when you make such a fool of yourself by getting ahead of your data and believing that the tea partiers
are not thugs.
P.S. -- reading the thread it appears that Fox is now covering this. Perhaps your paranoia will allow you to trust them?
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Zell
March 20, 2010 7:01 PM
Any chance of de-censoring the title? We should make this as accessible to Google and other search engines as possible.
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Kaneblues
March 20, 2010 7:06 PM
They don't believe that government has a role in solving national problems because they believe that government is the problem. They think we're better off if we just dismantle government.
In the form of tax breaks, everyone is responsible for buying your own health care, your own retirement security, your own child care, your own schools, your own private security forces, your own roads, your own levees.
It is called the Ownership Society, in Washington. But historically there's been another term for it; it's called Social Darwinism. The notion that every man and woman is out for him or herself.
It's a bracing idea; the idea that you're on your own. But there's just one problem, it doesn't work. It ignores our history. Yes, our greatness as a nation is dependent on self-reliance and individual initiative, and a belief in the free market. But it's also dependent on our mutual regard for each other. Our sense that we have a stake in each other's success. That everybody should have a shot at
opportunity.
Barack Obama - @ Take Back America Conference 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19Gobwg60U
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RobbyLove
March 20, 2010 7:09 PM
The things the protesters in San Francisco said about Bush, Condi and Powell in the past few years would have made the tea partiers blush.
Pot, meet kettle.
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Zell
March 20, 2010 7:10 PM in reply to RobbyLove
Like what?
Specifically?
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jenesq
March 20, 2010 7:21 PM in reply to Zell
"Warmonger" maybe? Oh wait, that was true. Hmmmm.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 1:38 AM in reply to jenesq
"Fascist" would work.
Oh, wait, people were arrested for showing up at staged events when they weren't invited. Anybody else has an example to enlighten us on the divine rule of Republicans?
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 8:37 PM in reply to mophan
And protesters at the Republican Convention in 2004 were forced into fenced-off cages blocks and blocks out of sight to both the press and conventioneers. By the POLICE.
Sounds a tad different from protestors roaming the Halls of Congress, doesn't it?
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 7:15 PM in reply to RobbyLove
And yet you provide no proof.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 8:15 PM in reply to RobbyLove
If using the n word to a civil rights hero will not make a tea partier blush, nothing will.
You did realize you were joining up for the KKK, didn't you?
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gonzo
March 20, 2010 8:56 PM in reply to RobbyLove
Fuck off troll.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:27 PM in reply to RobbyLove
A stupid liar making stuff up to defend Republican scum.
Is anyone surprised?
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arias
March 20, 2010 10:16 PM in reply to RobbyLove
What are you talking about? Were war protesters ever alleged to be calling Powell or Condi the N word? You are reading from a history book that you yourself are writing.
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GTFOOH
March 20, 2010 7:11 PM
It's amazing how CNN has described this as "intensity", rather than bigotry as it clearly is! It's gotten to the point where whatever the right-wing does, is seen as simply political opposition.
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Apphouse50
March 20, 2010 11:59 PM in reply to GTFOOH
What sad, actually, is it's not amazing at all. It's totally in character for these pond scum.
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bluebell
March 20, 2010 7:17 PM
There's plenty of anger out there due to the economy. If Democrats can't channel it where it belongs, Republicans will channel were it does not. Somebody is going to be the scapegoat. If we're too elitist to blame Wall Street and corporate fat cats, others will be blamed as they always have been.
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PeachesNYC
March 20, 2010 7:22 PM
What the hell?
If this is true, there should be an immediate investigation of the Capitol Police and why they failed to act here and why the were so unprepared to handle the situation. When the protestors have been using the word "kill" and the word "slaughter" (as a verb), it's a major failure by Capitol Police to not have adequate security coverage, this weekend in particular. For goodness sake, I live in NYC and see police with machine guns regularly at places like Penn Station, the Time Warner Center, and even Lincoln Center (just last night, BTW), and you are telling me the Capitol Police aren't prepared to handle a group of bigots and racists at the US Capitol Complex?
I strongly encourage TPM to get a comment from the Capitol Police regarding this incident.
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GTFOOH
March 20, 2010 7:55 PM in reply to PeachesNYC
Seconded! One representative was spat upon, right in front of the Capital Hill police. This clearly should have been considered an assult on a member of congress. I'll just bet it would be viewed that way if someone spat on the police!
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navamske
March 20, 2010 8:05 PM in reply to GTFOOH
Not that I don't agree wholeheartedly -- I find it horrifying that after right-wingers brought firearms to an Obama rally and they accused Nancy Pelosi of treason, the Capitol Police apparently couldn't deal with a "protest" that could easily have turned even uglier than it was -- but you know if the Tea Partiers were arrested they'd just take that as further validation about the "fascist" government.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 1:47 AM in reply to PeachesNYC
Maybe a strongly worded letter from Harry Reid to the Capitol Police would suffice?
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
March 20, 2010 7:26 PM
NPR interviewed some of these people and it couldn't be clearer from their comments that it all comes back to that basic belief among some dumb whites that government is just a big conspiracy to steal their hard-earned mnoney and just give it to a bunch of lazy, shiftless niggers and spics. It's been bubbling under the surface since Obama was nominated so it's hardly surprising that when they get all pumped up and in a crowd of like minded people who give them permission, it just pops out of their mouths.
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Apphouse50
March 20, 2010 7:51 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Their basic belief, pure and simple, is that a black man in the White House doing anything but sweeping up is an abomination.
These filthy pigs should be ashamed of themselves but they have no shame.
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psyberian
March 20, 2010 8:19 PM in reply to Apphouse50
Actually, a big part of Obama's job is "sweeping up" (after Boosh, that is.)
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Apphouse50
March 21, 2010 12:01 AM in reply to psyberian
Good point.
I wouldn't try making it to them, though, at least not while they have the pitchforks, torches, and AK-47s out. And God forbid they spit on you. Cooties!
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mophan
March 21, 2010 1:51 AM in reply to Apphouse50
Sorry, I can't resist. You meant an "Obamanation," right? ; )
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 7:29 PM
It's simply amazing to see you folks calling the people who laughed at Frank a "faggot", Teabaggers. Not much self-awareness on display here.
Oh and btw: I guess you've all forgotten the vicious cartoons lampooning Rice's blackness. See Ted Ralls, for example.
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 7:44 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
You just have to turn it back around don't you? We talk about people calling a civil rights pioneer the n-word to his face and you bring up a mean cartoonist.
The capacity of wingnuts to be simultaneously vicious and the victim never ceases to astonish. I'm beginning to believe that it's less a political ideology and more a mental illness.
We could have seen it coming, that the cruel, politics-as-bloodsport stylings of the Becks and Limbaughs would attract people who are detestable and mean.
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benintn
March 20, 2010 7:58 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
they call themselves teabaggers and held up signs that said "Teabag the liberals before they teabag you!"
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The Reluctant Conspiracy Theorist
March 21, 2010 4:59 PM in reply to benintn
I'll bet statistically speaking there are more actual "teabaggers" as in those who put their scotums in other mens mouths, who are of the liberal persuasion as opposed to conservative...I'm just sayin'...So it is funny you Dems are so opposed to the teabaggers. Thought you were into that kind of stuff!
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Kuyleh
March 20, 2010 8:13 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
They called themselves teabaggers. Why, exactly, should we not use the name they gave themselves? And how, exactly, is using the name they gave themselves even REMOTELY akin to spewing racial slurs.
I eagerly await enlightenment from you on this.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:18 AM in reply to Kuyleh
No they didn't Anderson Cooper gave them that name.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:31 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Wow, another stupid liar making false equivalencies to defend Republican scum.
Is anyone surprised?
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psyclone
March 21, 2010 1:13 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
We like calling you teabaggers because you ignorantly labeled yourselves that without knowing its sexual connotation. And we think it's hilarious that you are so obviously uncomfortable with the the idea of it, it just makes for delicious irony.
It's not our fault you have no awareness of the world around you.
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RuckMaker
March 20, 2010 7:32 PM
How can anyone claim that Obama's attempts at bipartisanship were "mollycoddling" and he really should have "kicked ass" right from the start ??
Wake up and smell the latte, folks: Obama is the Sidney Poitier of Presidents !
He can't just HOLD the toughest job in the world .... it doesn't matter he took office right when America hit its lowest point in three generations ..... and the Rethugs can stonewall and belittle him all they want.
Obama knows that if doesn't somehow rise above these impossible conditions, he won't just go down in history as our first African-American President.
He'll also be the LAST one for a very, VERY long time.
And how would these morons have reacted if right off the bat Obama started "kicking ass" the way G.W. "Great White" Bush did?
1. Faux News would have screamed it was "PROOF Obama IS a Muslim Extremist!!!" . . .
2. The racist kooks would have started going this berserk over a year ago . . .
3. By now, their level of violence would make this outburst look like a high school pep rally.
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RocketEngineer
March 20, 2010 9:53 PM in reply to RuckMaker
Interesting analogy, but perhaps Jackie Robinson might have been closer to the point.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 1:58 AM in reply to RuckMaker
It's like that now. A description of March 2010 exactly. Your point being?
(Maybe my snark meter is off on your posting).
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JohnMcCSF
March 20, 2010 7:40 PM
In case anyone still thinks passing the bill and the November elections aren't important
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 7:41 PM
MUST SEE - WHY IS THIS NO WHERE ON TPM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/obama-quotes-lincoln-to-h_n_507124.html
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 7:43 PM
MUST SEE - WHY IS THIS NO WHERE ON TPM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/obama-quotes-lincoln-to-h_n_507124.html
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 7:43 PM
Funny: CNN.come reports five out of 200 anti-war protesters were arrested today in DC, but says nothing about Tea Party "slurs", for which actual evidence (as opposed to pure hearsay) is absent.
How many tea partiers have been arrested at their many rallies, including the one with more than 100,000 in Washington????
Hmmm....???
and Funny: wasn't a black man beaten up by SEIU thugs at one of the early Town Hall rallies?
And funny: if Health Care is a "fundamental right", it's the first one in American history that is to be imposed on people, with fines and imprisonment if they refuse to exercise it!
You folks are an example of the Kakistocracy, aka "The Rule of the Stupids"
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rmwarnick
March 20, 2010 7:49 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
CNN says five arrested, but VOA says there were thousands of protesters and makes no mention of any arrests. They can't both be right, and since CNN is a corporatist outlet...
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Symbolic-Coffins-Mark-Anti-War-Protests-in-Washington-88733427.html
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 7:49 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Auto insurance, stupid.
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rmwarnick
March 20, 2010 7:58 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
OK, HuffPo reports eight arrests at the anti-war demonstration -- for blocking the sidewalk. I thin the Tea Partyers were a tad more disorderly than that!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/thousands-protest-in-dc-f_n_507159.html
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:05 PM in reply to rmwarnick
The 'baggers weren't TRYING to be arrested, they were just being stupid, but the war protesters knew exactly what they were doing.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 8:12 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Look up the definition of hearsay -- you clearly are unable to differentiate it from eyewitness evidence.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:34 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Either you are making stuff up, or repeating things that someone else made up. In the final analysis, you are nothing but a stupid liar.
Why don't you go hang out at Fox News, where everyone is a stupid liar?
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RocketEngineer
March 20, 2010 9:59 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Crawl back under your rock.
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 10:17 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
You lost, as a loser, surely you must be used to it by now. Deal with it.
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GTFOOH
March 20, 2010 10:37 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
What CNN.com are you reading?
Protesters hurl slurs, spit at Democrats
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rmwarnick
March 20, 2010 7:44 PM
Thousands protested U.S. foreign policy today in Washington. But they were polite about it, and got all of five seconds on the TV news.
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amber
March 20, 2010 7:47 PM
I just saw this video of the psychos trying to intimidate Rep. John Lewis. He's such a stalwart figure, and I love how he simply walks through them like they're the extremist freaks that they are, unworthy of his attention or energy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPoJGNhWB-s&feature=player_embedded
"It doesn't make me nervous as all," the congressman said, when asked how the mob-like atmosphere made him feel. "In fact, as I said to one heckler, I am the hardest person in the world to intimidate, so they better go somewhere else."
Indeed.
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Headlight
March 20, 2010 8:40 PM in reply to amber
John Lewis isn't going to let some racist assholes intimidate him -- compared to the beating he endured at Selma marching for justice, this was nothing. What astounds me is that there are people who can treat a hero like John Lewis so contemptuously, but who thought George Bush was unfairly maligned.
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TBender
March 20, 2010 8:45 PM in reply to Headlight
I wonder how many of these folks knew John Lewis' history. He's heard this all before, and worse as you mention.
He could have probably given them pointers to "improve" their epithets.
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 7:57 PM
Amber, if you think people on sidewalks yelling slogans like "Kill the Bill" to a congressman as he walks past unmolested is "trying to intimidate" him, or "mobbing" him as the video falsely asserts, you're obviously not familiar with political protest rallies.
Oh and where's the N-word on that video???
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 8:07 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
11 and 13 seconds in. Short and fast, in the lull right after "Kill the bill!" Heavy southern accent.
And in general, public figures don't like to be around unhinged assholes shrieking "Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill!" They could use a different word, but they're assholes, and assholes do what assholes do.
Hope you like your compatriots, because they're going to fucking kill the Republican party, if they haven't already. Only a lunatic would want to be lumped in with these detestable shitstains.
Oh, they also spit on my old congressman, Emmanuel Cleaver. (Who is also black.)
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 8:11 PM in reply to Morbo
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35965961/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
Mentions the Cleaver spitting.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 9:43 PM in reply to Morbo
What a crock. There's no N-word on that video nor is there any mobbing. You, are a lying sack of hyperbole.
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 10:13 PM in reply to shooter242
We've got video and multiple witnesses. You got nothing but lies.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 10:58 PM in reply to Morbo
Actually you don't. Got a link to real video? Audio? Anything factual?
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mophan
March 21, 2010 2:02 AM in reply to shooter242
That wasn't a real video? Get off your crack.
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 7:21 AM in reply to shooter242
Health care reform will help you too, regardless.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:36 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Stupid liar alert!
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bluestorm
March 20, 2010 7:57 PM
It is appalling that these neo-fascists were not evicted from the buildings. Why are they allowed to do this on federal property? All the progressive protestors are shoved , beaten and arrested for the smallest thing....
Disgraceful --Teabagger nazis.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 8:17 PM in reply to bluestorm
Agreed. Letting the tea baggers believe they are above the laws concerning disorderly conduct will embolden them.
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ru4862
March 20, 2010 8:08 PM
Maybe it's me, but Anti-war protesters were not allowed near the capitol, yet the Tea-DICKS were allowed to protest inside and outside the capitol. Something is not right about that...
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 8:18 PM in reply to ru4862
The right to protest was suspended for 8 years remember.
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Impishparrot
March 20, 2010 8:39 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Thanks correct. "Suspected" protesters at the 2008 Republican National Convention were arrested! What are these bastards doing running the halls of Congress? Why aren't they in the Republican "free-speech zones" used by the Bush administration for 8 years? Any Hill policeman/woman that witnessed aggression by protesters against an elected official, such as spitting, did not intervene or act to detain the perpetrator should be investigated for dereliction of duty.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 8:27 PM in reply to ru4862
The right to protest was suspended for 8 years remember.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 8:37 PM in reply to ru4862
Sure it is. The tea party isn't interested in blowing the place up like Obama's buddies were.
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TBender
March 20, 2010 8:39 PM in reply to shooter242
Nope, just shooting the people inside.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:42 PM in reply to shooter242
Liar.
Liar liar liar.
Liar liar liar, liar liar liar, liar liar liar.
Oh, and stupid too.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 9:47 PM in reply to farnsworth
That's all you got? Sounding like a five year old? Keep up the good work. Oh, and stay in school.
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RocketEngineer
March 20, 2010 10:09 PM in reply to shooter242
You forgot about Tim McVeigh? You forget about Joseph Stack? You're merely a troll. Go teabag yourself.
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 11:22 PM in reply to shooter242
You are either massively stupid, or willfully ignorant. Whichever is true, there is no point in arguing with you.
Anyone who has the slightest ability to look at reality knows you are full of shit. Why bother to look at specifics? You either refuse to think about it or you are incapable of it.
The only thing necessary is to call you out for being a stupid liar.
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labman57
March 20, 2010 8:15 PM
In their desire to bolster the popularity of their cause, the tea party folks welcomed with open arms any and all who had a grudge against the Obama Administration, including card-carrying racists, birthers, conspiracy theorists, gun-wielding reactionaries, xenophobes, homophobes, and Palinites.
So the examples of uncivilized conduct that are becoming increasingly commonplace at these contrived gatherings are not surprising, merely disappointing.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 8:39 PM in reply to labman57
Got any recording of any sort corroborating these accusations? Or are you just another willing dupe?
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:43 PM in reply to shooter242
Willing dupe? Sorry, shitstain, you have him confused with yourself.
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Cornelius
March 20, 2010 9:01 PM in reply to labman57
Yes they are nothing more than "contrived gatherings" and if the press did any worthwhile investigating you would probably see five school buses waiting for these people to take them home after all the screaming is over. This is not a "movement". The President gets them all worked up not because he's black, but that he's an educated smooth talking black man who also happens to be the POTUS. He's a threat. In the "good old days" he'd be doing the step and fetch for these people. No, they were not the "good old days" for everybody.
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 8:40 PM
AJM
in reply to fulldroolcup
Look up the definition of hearsay -- you clearly are unable to differentiate it from eyewitness evidence.
No, YOU look it up: hearsay's a "non-judicial statement offered as evidence to prove the truth of the matter stated therein".
That's a working legal definition, but the ordinary term is "uncorroborated statements offered as fact". As in:
"Carson said people in the crowd yelled, "kill the bill and then the N-word" several times, while he and Lewis were exiting the Cannon House office building."
THAT's a person telling the reporter what he claims others said.
That's pure hearsay, friend. The reporter is NOT an eyewitness to the event.
And if anyone can hear the N-word in that video I'll eat my hat.
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cinesimon
March 20, 2010 8:54 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Oh, I'm sure you will.
No matter there actually are plenty of witnesses from across the spectrum - all you need to do is refuse to read the eyewitness statements, and your hat is safe - as it always is with you lot.
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 11:45 PM in reply to cinesimon
John Lewis is the moron who claimed that sharks today circle the routes slave ships used 300 years ago, still looking for the bodies of the slaves thrown off the ships when they died at sea.
Moronic...to...the nth!!!!
And: if you can provide a person giving a first-person eyewitenss account, not just telling someone who was not present his account, I'd love to see it.
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mophan
March 21, 2010 2:08 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Fulldrool, be prepared to eat your words.
By-the-way, you obviously don't understand the imagery he was invoking. It would require at-least high school reading comprehension skills.
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AJM
March 20, 2010 11:04 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Start chewing. See Morbo above.
You referenced "these events' and the reporter was himself an eyewitness to two of them. You can't read.
Secondly, the Lewis and Carson reports of what they themselves witnessed corroborate each other. They are credible witnesses.
Your response that nobody caught it on tape is lame and given that people did in fact catch it on tape laughable.
Please resume commenting here when you have acquired some common sense. It might help you to stop making a fool of yourself.
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slb
March 21, 2010 3:02 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
The reporter may not have been an eyewitness, but Carson was, so the reporter was reporting eyewitness testimony, not hearsay. Carson was relating what he himself saw and heard, not what other people told him had happened.
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 8:44 PM
Auto insurance?
Snork!
First, no one who doesn't own a car is forced to buy auto insurance. People who ride the NY subways aren't forced to pay the fares for those living in Chicago, which is analogous to what Obamacare forces on people?
Second, are you implying that auto insurance is a constitutional right? Or are you just a dum!ass.
Third, auto insurance is to ensure that if you injure someone else or his property, that the latter is made whole. If you're injured in an accident that's your fault, you don't get anything.
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cinesimon
March 20, 2010 8:56 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
Oh, grow up.
Your sad little debate with yourself is just bizarre - void of any logic whatsoever: all you have is false equivalencies and non-logic.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:44 AM in reply to cinesimon
Heh. There's not a word of rebuttal in your reply, just snot and unsupported assertions.
You've been pwned.
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geofu54
March 20, 2010 9:26 PM in reply to fulldroolcup
And you still haven't figured out how to post a reply to other posts, moron.
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 7:29 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Do you own a human body that has the possibility of breaking down?
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Smitallica
March 21, 2010 10:31 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Ok. So no one who doesn't have a body will be forced to buy health insurance. Deal?
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sbv
March 20, 2010 8:49 PM
keith olbermann had it right - under the "i want my country back," under the "don't tax me bro," under the birthers, the deathers, the 9/12 groups, the states rights people, the gun carrying tea baggers - is racism against people of color and education. those who are encouraging them - from sarah palin rallies to now - for their own political gain have no shame only unadulterated greed and hunger for power.
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sully18
March 20, 2010 10:03 PM in reply to sbv
Amen.And it all starts with addiction which is fostered in the American family system as a result of unresolved grief related to abuse,neglect,abandonment,and enmeshment.Our political systems mirror our family systems.
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sully18
March 21, 2010 3:12 AM in reply to sbv
Amen.And it all starts with addiction which is fostered in the American family system as a result of unresolved grief related to abuse,neglect,abandonment,and enmeshment issues.Our political systems mirror our family systems.
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 8:52 PM
I love to see Teabag Scumbags in here stamping their cowardly little feet....smells like.....victory.
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GSM
March 20, 2010 9:06 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Interesting. As you sit behind you computer in your PJ's with the feet in them, you position yourself as the big tough guy calling the Tea Party folks cowardly. Isn't there a anatomic word that defines the likes of you?
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sherifffruitfly
March 20, 2010 8:58 PM
Nothing remotely surprising about this.
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GSM
March 20, 2010 8:58 PM
Finally, you liberals are getting a taste of your own medicine and it is only just beginning!!
Remember the SEIU thugs that showed up at the public forums to intimidate, and in some instances, physically assault those opposed to ObamaCare. And then let's not forget the three blacks that stood out in front of a Philadelphia Polling Center with baseball bats intimidating McCain voters (Yes, those were the individuals that had their charges dropped by Barack's Department of Justice). Payback is a bitch, and again, it is just beginning!!
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zonk
March 20, 2010 9:09 PM in reply to GSM
Yeah, keep it up.
I'm sure you'll go far.
You'll go from being merely hated and relegated to a super-minority to an entire nation wanting to see your dumb, ignorant asses just deported so the vast majority of Americans can rationally discuss and decided upon the issues of the day.
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GSM
March 20, 2010 9:37 PM in reply to zonk
Let's see, with the likes of me gone, "the vast majority of Americans can rationally discuss and decide upon the issues of the day". How can you make such an ignorant statement given how healthcare was handled!!
Last I checked, the likes of me provided Obama with the worst Presidental approval rating for time in office EVER. Also, the last I checked, the latest elections had the likes of me booting Deeds, Corzine and Coakley (she was running for Dead Man Kennedy's seat!)out of ofice. And the last I checked, two in three of the likes of me dissapproved of ObamaCare, recognizing that it is a sham! That would put YOU in the super-minority.
As to the issue of deportation, you think things are heating up now, wait until you losers try to legalize the illegals. I can hardly wait.
As the Independent voter continues to experience the decisions of the clown in office, the gift that you received two Novembers ago will continue to melt, similar to the wicked witch in the Wizard of OZ (Can't you see Barack in a witches outfit, crying out "I'm melting, I'm melting"). Enjoy it while you can Loser.
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zonk
March 20, 2010 9:43 PM in reply to GSM
I cannot wait until we finally get these FEMA camps up and running to deal with the likes of you, but oops, I've said too much.
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goodstuff
March 20, 2010 9:44 PM in reply to GSM
you are funny. Will you be my guest when Nancy Pelosi is sworn in as President in 2016?
Im sure President Pelosi and VP Frank will love to see what other insights you might give them...
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goodstuff
March 20, 2010 9:48 PM in reply to GSM
and one other thing, last i checked the democrats are about to pass health care reform, something that hasn't happen in 100 years. But yeah, make sure Eric Cantor and John Boehner keep you guys focused on us instead of them, and the lousy job they are doing...
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farnsworth
March 20, 2010 9:50 PM in reply to GSM
Wow, you live in a scary fantasy world.
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arias
March 20, 2010 10:40 PM in reply to GSM
Holy shit, you are really one ignorant dumbass. Are you seriously trying to crow about defeating future legislation on the immigration issue?
Since you're too dumb to know, the "Christian right", yeah that Christian right whose votes you've been depending upon to front like your voices are anywhere close to mainstream, recently revealed (to the utter shock of dorks like you) that they support immigration reform. Read it and weep.
So how's it feel to always be on the wrong side of issues and predictions loser?
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apache
March 20, 2010 10:40 PM in reply to GSM
"The last I checked" is such a hackneyed bore, as are you.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
March 20, 2010 10:48 PM in reply to GSM
Another brave racist asshole..again, publish your name, address where you can be found then stand your ground big talking bitch...you accuse others of wearing sleepers as they sit in in fron tof their screens, and what makes you different you racist cunt?
Walk the walk, because your talk is weak. Come on felcher, give the Dutchman a lead as to how he can find you. But you wont. Youre a congenital coward, just like your punk daddy was...and your mom, when she wasnt fucking someone other than him. And we're positive that the best part of you ran down the milkman's leg...so give it up, chickenshit. Where are you at?
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slb
March 21, 2010 4:21 AM in reply to GSM
Neither Deeds nor Coakley were in the offices for which they were running, so you could hardly have "booted them out".
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 7:42 AM in reply to GSM
"Last I checked, the likes of me provided Obama with the worst Presidental approval rating for time in office EVER."
Last I checked the Gallup Polls (it's on the side of tpm, beside the usual comedy Rassmusen poll) has him at 47 approval/disapproval
Before 9/11 G W Bush was at 30% approval. Ooops
Rassmusen had McCain in touch with Obama a week before his landslide defeat. Its effectively a joke poll. Experianced poll watches add 5% to the Democrats in a Rasmussen poll. Yu will also notice the total lack of undecided in the Rasmussen poll. Any undecided are added to the Repulican count. Simple, effective at fooling you losers.
As for the other rlections you site, funny that the exit polls stated that those were not in fact referendums on Obama, AND that Scott was elected into Kennedys seat as a protest vote at the lack of a public option. In short they wanted a more strident health care reform, not that they didn't want health care reform.
But hey, cling to selective straws my good man.
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Viva!America!
March 20, 2010 9:37 PM in reply to GSM
MWAH HA HA HA HA!!!
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FreeRider
March 20, 2010 10:14 PM in reply to GSM
Those thugs in Philly were in the heart of black community to intimidate blacks because they opposed Obama. There were no McCain voters to intimidate, genius.
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StPete
March 20, 2010 10:48 PM in reply to GSM
Maybe it is just beginning, dickhead. And maybe you're going to learn that there are a lot less pacifists on this side than you losers think. In fact I'm looking forward to it.
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slb
March 21, 2010 3:40 AM in reply to GSM
Oh, please, you are inflating incidents out of all proportion to what actually happened.
In the incident at the polling place in Philadelphia, there were two guys, not three, both in New Black Panther uniforms, only one of whom had, not a baseball bat, but a nightstick. The other was actually a poll watcher and lived in the building in which the polling place was located. (My recollection from the time is that the precinct was majority black.) The police were called, and the man with the nightstick left the scene peacefully. He had been there for about one hour.
No, the guy should not have been there with a nightstick, and no, neither of them should probably have been wearing Black Panther uniforms. But they were hardly the menace that you have portrayed.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/261980
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Veritas78
March 20, 2010 9:02 PM
The Teabaggers are doing our work for us. Around Wednesday, some of the wingnuts will begin to see how hard Obama has rolled them. I'm now willing to think we might expand our majorities this fall.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 9:46 PM in reply to Veritas78
Veritas. What a joke coming from a thug. You wouldn't know the truth it if bit you on your dick if you even have one.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 9:51 PM in reply to Veritas78
I misread your post. I apologize. I think i'm weary from posting and reading posts. Please do accept my apologies.
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theWalrus
March 20, 2010 10:00 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it *was* highly revealing. :-)
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Max Thrax
March 20, 2010 10:10 PM in reply to theWalrus
Cut her some slack, it's war and we're all throwing bombs.
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slb
March 21, 2010 4:24 AM in reply to Max Thrax
It would be really nice not to do it so reflexively and so indiscriminately.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 10:26 PM in reply to theWalrus
The only thing highly "revealing" is that I was willing to apologize and you are an asshole.
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theWalrus
March 21, 2010 1:08 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Your continuing expression of passive-aggressive hostility using certain body parts is a sign of early, childhood psycho-sexual disruption. I would suggest you seek help but it's probably too late.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 9:23 AM in reply to theWalrus
Wow that is some crystal ball you have. ROFLMAO. Passive aggressive - Hah. I've been accused of a lot of stuff, but passive aggressive isn't one of them.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:09 AM in reply to Veritas78
Again;
Faggot = BAD HATE MEAN sexual reference
Teabagger = GOOD ACCURATE CIVIL sexual reference
You guys are pieces of "work".
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farnsworth
March 21, 2010 12:35 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Then why don't you go away shitstain? You clearly have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
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theWalrus
March 20, 2010 9:48 PM
"I'm disappointed at a unwillingness to be just civil," Frank said.
OK. What's he gonna say when some Fox Wingnut blows up a federal building? When will the Dems realize that these people want to destroy them? Literally.
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dougom
March 20, 2010 9:50 PM
Can we call them ignorant, racist, homophobic idiots now?
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John
March 20, 2010 9:54 PM
DAMN THE TEABAGS, FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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John Wesley Harding
March 20, 2010 10:06 PM
I know its not original, but please, isn't time to acknowledge "Obama Derangement Syndrome."
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PepperoniToni
March 20, 2010 10:16 PM
As cynical as it is, one of the most inciteful political quotes I've heard came from the late Lee Atwater. He said, "You start out in 1954 by saying, "N****r, n****r, n*****r." By 1968 you can't say "n****r"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N****r, n****r."
I think the T-Party's resort to overt racism is a good omen. It signals that the coded language of conservatism that has dominated political discourse for the last 40 years is dying. How many more election cycles can the Southern Strategy really last in a country that has elected a black president?
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 10:43 PM in reply to PepperoniToni
"I think the T-Party's resort to overt racism is a good omen. It signals that the coded language of conservatism that has dominated political discourse for the last 40 years is dying. How many more election cycles can the Southern Strategy really last in a country that has elected a black president?"
I hope you're right and I hope not too many more election cycles.
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 10:17 PM
Still waiting for proof any of this happened. Got any? No? Then STFU.
Heh.
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AOW
March 20, 2010 10:37 PM in reply to shooter242
Let me be clear: you think John Lewis is lying? That he's making this up to get ratings? Do you even know who John Lewis is? He didn't risk his life marching from Selma to make up lies about a tea party protester.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lewis_%28U.S._politician%29
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shooter242
March 20, 2010 10:43 PM in reply to AOW
Yes I think he's lying. He didn't have to walk through that group, he was trolling for a sound bite. A sound bite that has yet to appear from an event were nearly every person has a recording device.
I also think Frank is lying, and that CNN is falling for it.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
March 20, 2010 10:56 PM in reply to shooter242
And all those years your wife was sleeping with blacks & Jews, muslims and octaroons, chinese and portuguese, aboriginals, members of the Oakland Raiders, your fellow Klansmen, she was lying too.
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lousgirl84
March 20, 2010 10:59 PM in reply to shooter242
Your post is so outrageous it's laughable!!!!
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Morbo
March 20, 2010 11:28 PM in reply to shooter242
We've got video. Just because you're willing to lie reapeatedly about the 2 clear n-words between the "Kill the bill!" shouts around 11 seconds in doesn't erase it.
Maybe you've just never heard the word said by someone with a southern drawl, but I have and there's no mistaking it.
Plus every news network, including Fox has reported on it. You're such a moron for thinking that you're fighting for something here. Distance yourself from them or accept it.
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 11:48 PM in reply to shooter242
Yes, I think he's lying. Lewis has lied before. He's also given to hysterical overstatement, such as when he responded to a Repuyblican attempt to cut the growth of Medicare/Medicaid spending by intoning "They're coming for the CHILDREN...they're coming for the OLD PEOPLE."
He's just another pious fraud who's been dining out on his civil rights reputation for years.
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PatrickJKiger
March 21, 2010 12:15 AM in reply to shooter242
Fox News apparently is "falling for it," too.
http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/03/20/health-care-protesters-hurl-verbal-epithets-at-african-american-lawmakers/
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slb
March 21, 2010 4:31 AM in reply to shooter242
Didn't have to walk through that group? He was walking on a public street! How is he supposed to get into the Capitol building? Have a helicopter land him on the roof?
I, too, heard "nigger" being shouted in that video at least twice, and right as Lewis and the others were passing in front of the camera.
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FawkesFOX
March 20, 2010 10:49 PM in reply to shooter242
They're your people. You should know as well as anyone that this is just a notch above what they've already done at rallies and town halls across the country. And, considering the level of desperation, the futility of the Republicans' efforts to kill reform, and the clock ticking down, you shouldn't be surprised if some of your tea-bagging buddies resort to bomb threats or get caught with lethal weapons near the Capitol building before it's over.
Heh.
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Decatur Dem
March 20, 2010 10:23 PM
I'm proud that John Lewis is my representative, as I told one of his DC office people yesterday. And guess what? He's faced tougher opposition than these overgrown schoolyard name calling pantywaists, and come out a winner.
And I'm pretty sure the same goes for Rep. Frank as well.
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wacky dems
March 20, 2010 11:12 PM in reply to Decatur Dem
I bet you are. What entitlement program are you on?
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Agateman
March 20, 2010 10:31 PM
Every single word of filth is a direct quote from Dick Armey.
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GTFOOH
March 20, 2010 10:38 PM
What CNN.com are you reading?
Protesters hurl slurs, spit at Democrats
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RocketEngineer
March 20, 2010 10:59 PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/tea-partiers-call-lewis-nr-frank-ft-at-capitol-hill-protest.php
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RocketEngineer
March 20, 2010 11:00 PM
Tired. Should have been:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/20/protesters-hurl-slurs-and-spit-at-democrats/?hpt=T1&fbid=7tkU43hxWm9
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wacky dems
March 20, 2010 11:04 PM in reply to RocketEngineer
Got any reliable sources? Have any that are not run by liberals?
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Dorn76
March 20, 2010 11:23 PM in reply to wacky dems
Hey buddy, wanna buy some gold?
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wacky dems
March 20, 2010 11:35 PM in reply to Dorn76
Who owns it, your boyfriend? Are you from Massachusetts?
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Dorn76
March 21, 2010 10:47 AM in reply to wacky dems
No? Ok, then, how about a bunker for your backyard? Just $9999 installed!
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xargaw
March 20, 2010 11:18 PM
If anyone had a legitimate reason for being part of this group, then basking in the light of this group's behavior would surely make an educated decent person want to distance themselves from these people. Those that stay must feel that these people are their peers; under-educated, bigoted, mean, small people that have been raised in conditions of ignorance. These people bring shame to their country. Protesting and assembly are American rights. Hate, racism, and bigotry, reflect on the perpetrator, not the object of the demonstration.
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 11:53 PM in reply to xargaw
Yeah, conservatives are rich folks, and evil business owners, --- on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays. On the other days of the week they're rednecks, trailer trash and cultural bozos.
Make up yer frackin minds!
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farnsworth
March 21, 2010 9:24 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
They are both, every day.
The individuals aren't both, of course, but the group as a whole contains both types.
I know this is likely to be hard for you to understand, considering the lack of cognitive processes that you have repeatedly demonstrated.
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Mary Alice
March 20, 2010 11:40 PM
And these people want to lead this country?
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fulldroolcup
March 20, 2010 11:49 PM in reply to Mary Alice
No, they don't . They want their elective officials to represent their views, and to return to Constitutional principles.
Big difference.
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psyclone
March 21, 2010 12:57 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Um, they already have elective [sic] officials representing their views. They just happen to be minority views. For the umpteenth time, elections have consequences - deal with it.
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acamus
March 21, 2010 11:44 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
And my Congressman, Rep Pence just won't represnt my progressives views. Maybe I should think of him as a traitor to my country, go spit on him and yell disparing remarks to him.
I swear, y'all have the political sophistication and maturity of angry thirteen year old boys whose daddys ignored them except when they weren't beating on them.
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Allbiz
March 21, 2010 12:03 AM
And here's what a redneck liberal is allowed to say.
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Allbiz
March 21, 2010 12:04 AM in reply to Allbiz
http://www.sodahead.com/fun/rave-party-for-doofiegirl/blog-282659/#post_6794251
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quizmasterchris
March 21, 2010 12:26 AM
Voting for the least-worst of the two major parties has gotten us to the point where the corporate toadies of the party in power aren't far enough right-leaning for the useful idiots of corporate toadies in the other party.
Don't blame me, I voted for Nader.
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psyclone
March 21, 2010 1:04 AM in reply to quizmasterchris
Well aren't you SPECIAL!
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:39 AM
I guess you bozos have forgotten Ted Ralls' cartoon calling Condi Rice a "HOUSE NIGGA".
No bullshite about using the N-word, please: those words appeared in Ralls' cartoon. (which he has long since been forced to take down)
Or how about Jeff Danziger's?
http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/049887.php
IOW STFU
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Trailerville
March 21, 2010 1:01 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
The first part you said was clearly an example of a racist comment (you didn't give a link or anything, so I'll just take your word for it), but I'm confused about the cartoon link because I didn't really see any racial overtones (could've been there, but I didn't see it). I'm not sure about what you are getting at. If you are an anti-racism crusader trying to convince right and left that racism still exists in our society on both sides of the aisle, I commend you, and I agree with your basic point. But, for some reason that doesn't seem to be your point. Call me crazy, but it seems like you are trying to excuse what some random right-wing racist people are saying.
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slb
March 21, 2010 4:18 AM in reply to Trailerville
The reference in the cartoon is to a scene from the movie "Gone With the Wind". Melanie Wilkes goes into labor as Sherman's army arrives in Atlanta. The doctor is nowhere to be found in the confusion, and Scarlett turns her maid Prissy, a feckless young slave who had earlier claimed to be an expert midwife, and tells her she'll have to manage without the doctor, but that Scarlett will help her. Prissy screams and dissolves into tears, confessing, "Lawsy, we got to have a doctor. I don' know nuthin' 'bout birthin' babies!"
I don't remember precisely what Condoleezza Rice had said about the aluminum tubes that were held up as solid evidence that Saddam Hussein was pursuing nuclear weapons, but the original Bush line was that there was no question that the tubes were meant to be used to process uranium, and I'm sure that was Rice's position at the time, too. After that claim fell apart and it became pretty evident that tubes of the same dimensions had been used for fairly ordinary rockets, she evidently tried to walk back her initial claims.
Racist? I don't know if it was intended that way, but I think that's certainly the way it comes across.
Danziger is not a liberal, by the way, and I don't know that his cartoon has been embraced by the liberal community.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:56 AM
Here's another video of the same event.
Find the N-word in THIS, mofos!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SCs6pSE8_I&feature=player_embedded
You're all lyin' sacks o' shite.
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Trailerville
March 21, 2010 1:14 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Damn... 48 seconds of indisputable Youtube video evidence that no racial slurs were ever made during the entire day.
But for real, although none of us know exactly what was said, is it such a stretch of the imagination to think that there may have been some racist or homophobic people at an anti-health care rally? It's not a big deal- if you oppose health care reform, a couple of racist jerks don't affect your argument.
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:12 PM in reply to Trailerville
LOL!! you guys ave gone from "Indisputable evidence" to "OK, maybe there's nothing on tape anywhere", to "Well, it could have happened".
"The pictures of Obama in whiteface and with a Hitler moustache."
As opposed to the pictures of Lieberman in blackface and Condi Rice as a black mammy (cf Ted Ralls). As opposed to Bush as Hitler in hundreds of nasty anti-Bush rallies.
Snork!
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slb
March 21, 2010 4:40 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
Just because it's not audible in a video that is mostly picking up only one guy's voice, does not mean that there weren't people shouting it in another part of that mob.
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monique20
March 21, 2010 4:50 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
No i ran this video about 4 times and could clearly hear somebody yell " F*** N****"
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rep-lewis-called-n-word-tea-party-prote
you act like there wasnt other footage of this event! get real
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Dorn76
March 21, 2010 10:54 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
You and about a dozen new trolls arrive in 11th hour....Desperate much?
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fulldroolcup
March 21, 2010 12:59 AM
Barak today, on the Hill:
"I have the great pleasure of having a really nice library at the White House. And I was tooling through some of the writings of some previous Presidents and I came upon this quote by Abraham Lincoln: “I am not bound to win, but I’m bound to be true. I’m not bound to succeed, but I’m bound to live up to what light I have.”"
From NRO, tonight:
The book he was consulting may have been "They Never Said It", by Paul F. Boller and John George. If so, he missed what they said about the Lincoln passage: “This sounds like Honest Abe, but honesty compels admirers of Lincoln to admit that there is no documentary evidence for the statement.”
Heh
Fake, but accurate.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 9:12 AM in reply to fulldroolcup
The trolls and rethugs are out in force today.
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Dorn76
March 21, 2010 10:56 AM in reply to lousgirl84
I welcome them because its a sure sign we're winning.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 1:14 PM in reply to Dorn76
And it looks like we are even closer. I just heard we will have close to if not 220+ votes. I hear Stupak is a yes. Just heard it on MSNBC
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tmccarthy0
March 21, 2010 2:40 AM
To Jim DeMint and company:
Your Racist Friend
I guess you will stand by them no matter what.
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Sailormarlowe
March 21, 2010 6:22 AM
But, if Bill Maher or Kathy Griffin were spewing their filth, you pansy libs would be all a-titter, right? "Oooooohhh, tee-hee, tee-hee, pass the granola & bean sprouts. Love your Che T-shirt, dear."
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JNagarya
March 21, 2010 6:58 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Let's look at with whom you associate yourself:
Hitler also hated, demonized, and marked for extermination LIBERALS.
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stevelaudig
March 21, 2010 7:29 AM
If one recalls the original "Tea Party" dressed themselves as Native Americans to deflect responsibility. They [the new TPs] must feel the same way Boer Whites felt in South Africa towards the end of the Apartheid Regime. Surrounded and out numbered and "They" have the vicious mentality of the cornered. How would you say it? “Moderation in the defense of white privilege is no virtue”? “Racism in the defense of a failed system is no vice.”?
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Silence
March 21, 2010 8:29 AM
For months, Barney the gay congressman refers to the protesters as "TEABAGGERS" and then claims victimhood when the "TEABAGGERS" call him a "FAGGOT"?
LOL. It doesn't get any better.
BTW, I've been to DC for rallies. Congresssmen DO NOT walk down the street during protests. They use the tunnels.
This was a set-up....just like the Walmart incident. The pager was a 16 yea old black kid. Of course, the truth is printed somewhere on page 20 of the news papers, after the "outrage".
Trying to incite a race war? How pathetic.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/21/barney_frank_gop_afraid_to_stand_up_to_teabaggers_on_health_care.html
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 8:55 AM in reply to Silence
Finally showed up again you gutless wonder and armed with more lies and a freeper website. Take your bullshit somewhere else racist homophobe pig.
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Barney
March 21, 2010 8:40 AM
Fucking, pussy-ass, lying leftards. there is video...with audio..you actual sound..
NO ONE used the terms nigger or faggot
You fucking whiny-assed, cowardly little bitches need to grow the fuck up
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 10:01 AM in reply to Barney
Am I mistaken, or does this sound like desperate whining? or maybe Blogger's tourette's...
And why is it every time I find out more about someone who tells everyone else to "grow up", they turn out to be either young, egotistical hotheads or infantile authority-assuming adults?
I have never heard an intelligent adult use that term.
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willia451
March 21, 2010 8:43 AM
Hmmmmmm. No big reveal here. Everyone already knew there were hard core racial and discriminatory undertones native to the Tea Party.
You hear the N and F words (among many, many other obscenities) hurled at their protests all the time.
Tea Party. KKK. White Supremacists. Aryan Brotherhood. It’s all the part of the same.
If George Bush was pushing the HIR Bill the dynamic would be completely different. But because it’s Barack Obama......well, you get it I'm sure.
Look. Extremists and Racists will always be with us. We just have to keep moving forward. Regardless.
Lewis and Franks, among others, are doing the right thing by trying to stay rooted in the moral high ground. Direct engagement with people that are obvious racists on the eve of the most important vote in 3 generations wouldn't have done anyone any good.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 8:54 AM in reply to willia451
FYI.
The KKK were Democrats.
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Barney
March 21, 2010 10:00 AM in reply to Silence
...and the ones who tried to block the Civil Rights Act..Robert Byrd and Al Gore Sr. led the charge
It took Republicans led by Everett Dirksen from Illinois to beat back the racist, hateful Democrats to make sure blacks and other minorities had rights..
Now the hateful left is spreading more lies to bring back Democrat-led racial animosity
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willia451
March 21, 2010 10:14 AM in reply to Barney
You two wingnuts are a real piece of work.
You're talking about the Democratic Party and the Republican Party of 50 years ago like it was last week. The make up and ideological leanings of the two major parties has changed significantly since the 1960s.
Get a clue. What happened yesterday happened. And nothing you say or write is going to change that.
But, keep on bloviating. At this point, what else is there?
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Silence
March 21, 2010 10:38 AM in reply to willia451
Is ole' Barney still fantasizing about "TEABAGGING".
Creepy.
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 1:33 PM in reply to Barney
That Republican party didn't stall 200 pieces of legislation in the senate with a misuse of the filibuster and then whine the other side was partisan.
Oh and Abraham Linchon was a republican too. The teabaggers hate him apparently.
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Barney
March 21, 2010 8:44 AM
This sort of bullshit cowardly tactic is the hallmark of the left..
Where is the audio or video of anyone in the crowd saying nigger or faggot
..What?? You don't have any??
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Barney
March 21, 2010 9:16 AM
Here's more video...WITH AUDIO...you know sound.... that proves that the leftards are purposefully lying to worsen race relations in order to help the Jackassocrats push the piece of shit HRC into law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPoJGNhWB-s&feature=player_embedded
lies..bribery...extortion...threats...personal destruction ia all they have
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Silence
March 21, 2010 9:23 AM in reply to Barney
"Special ears" are required to hear the racial slurs. lol
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Barney
March 21, 2010 9:22 AM
Rove just DESTROYED David Plouffe on This Week..
...get ready for more lies from the left about racial epithets and attacks
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EastWest
March 21, 2010 11:05 AM in reply to Barney
Rove "destroyed" Plouffe?
Plouffe:
Rove:
Oh, the humanity.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 9:56 AM
Barney, there's no way to spin this one. Your efforts are transparent, whoever pays you should fire your dumb ass for being so obvious.
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Barney
March 21, 2010 10:29 AM in reply to JEP07
No spin...the left lied again...and got caught ...again..
You all are shameless and despicable..nothing is beneath you..
you are trying to destroy race relations to pass a bill that very few want...
bribery...extortion...threats...lies...racial hate...corruption is all you have
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 10:51 AM in reply to Barney
"The Left" Lied?
Since when was "the left" organized sufficiently to speak with one voice? You are giving "the left" way too much credit, Barney.
BTW, which is it, Barney? ...egotistical young hothead or immature adult assuming authority? My guess is egotistical young hothead.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 10:14 AM
over 350 comments? Surely the right isn't getting desperate, how could anyone get that impression.
Methinks they doest protest too much.
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Barney
March 21, 2010 10:30 AM in reply to JEP07
awwww...whining because you got smacked back on your lies and hate???
...fuck you, you racist fucking coward
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EastWest
March 21, 2010 10:45 AM in reply to Barney
Barney? That you? ~sniff~ Smells like ass-hole. Must be troll mating season.
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SchoolyT
March 21, 2010 10:45 AM in reply to Barney
Well now, that's a sure sign of desperation, jerk. The GOP has been lying pathologically throughout this entire process. They're the ones spewing the hate by the boatload. Cowards? How 'bout taking a good hard look at the groups aligning themselves with the GOP position. Instead of making an honest buck, they have to rely on predatory practices to go unchallenged by the government. Well, those days are over, for the most part. And there's more to come.
If there's any smacking to be had, it's pretty clear that you are the one on the receiving end of it with your wails of protest and loss of composure (I'm being generous in figuring you had any to begin with).
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 10:56 AM in reply to SchoolyT
"The GOP has been lying pathologically throughout this entire process."
Actually, you might well replace "pathologically" with "professionally", ever since the book-cookers took over their party, Republicans are proud of their deceptions.
Now that the bigots and the violent are taking over at the teabagger level, (it is all they have left) it is just a matter of time before the sane remnant has to find anther party, or give up their claim on civility.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 11:07 AM in reply to SchoolyT
Here's the problem. Without bi-partisan support and the confidence of the American public, this thing will become a monster of epic proportion, the cause of every ill in America..real or imagined.
This bill will be blamed for every surgery scheduled a month out, every wrong diagnosis and every doctor who can't see a patient for a few days. In fact, I predict massive discrimination claims.
Think about it.
"I didn't get care in time because I'm registered republican."
"My care was denied because I'm white."
"My neighbor, the liberal, received treatment that I was denied."
People know that party affiliation is everything in socialist/communist states.
The American people do not trust this bill and with good cause. It is all politics.
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SchoolyT
March 21, 2010 11:39 AM in reply to Silence
Oh, then that must be why the republicans, whites, etc. haven't gotten a fair shake with Social Security or Medicare, right?
Your "proof" of what's to come doesn't jive with history.
There is little chance for bi-partisan support given, and let's be totally clear, that the GOP does not want to fix it. All of the rhetoric and flimsy "proposals" put forth are just a smokescreen to hide the fact that they don't want anything to change. That little tidbit has occasionally slipped out from their own mouths along the way. If they had their way, it wouldn't have received a minute of attention much less a year. There would have been zero negotiating, just nothing at all concerning HCR. But the polls continue to reflect Americans in high numbers showing support for reform.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 11:45 AM in reply to SchoolyT
Not this reform.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 11:59 AM in reply to SchoolyT
Medicare and SS are in serious trouble..unsustainable.
IRS health care jackboots? Not good..not good at all.
Don't say you weren't warned!
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SchoolyT
March 21, 2010 12:02 PM in reply to Silence
If you had to pay a fee every time you claimed the sky is falling, we'd all be rich beyond our wildest dreams and you'd be penniless.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 12:05 PM in reply to SchoolyT
$ 1 2 , 6 7 2 , 4 4 5 , 3 8 4 , 2 1 7 . 8 5
-------------------------------------------------------
It's not a matter of if it falls. It's a matter of when and who will be blamed.
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SchoolyT
March 21, 2010 12:25 PM in reply to Silence
Is that an IOU to us for your mad prediction skills? When can we expect you to pay up?
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:32 PM in reply to SchoolyT
The sky is falling in only one way; we grow closer and closer to the day everyone in government realizes, as so many of us have known for years, that only the privileged few at the upper end of our economy have the resources left to rebuild our nation.
Whatever you call the fulcrum of our economy got moved in favor of those wealthy folks back in Bush's first term, and ever since, we have been falling deeper into debt as a nation, even as they increase their net worth.
What we are asking of that privileged class is that they share some of the abundance they enjoy from our great nation and it's middle class consumers, FOR rebuilding this nation. We are asking for a small portion of their total wealth, and nothing more, we aren't taking away their freedoms or their status or anything resembling their sustenance, we are just taking from the extra abundance they have enjoyed since Bush moved that fulcrum.
Although one might think we were extracting blood by the pint the way they are so desperate to protect their abundance. Sometimes I think they would rather part with the blood than their excess wealth.
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Silence
March 22, 2010 10:01 AM in reply to JEP07
Like I said, the Chinese want my intellectual property and the jobs associated with that property.
I can either stand around waiting to be crushed by an unsustainable system designed to kill the free market or take the money and enjoy the remainder of my life.
The burdens of socialism never fall on the upper crust. They own the system.
Dropping out. Best of luck to you all.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 11:44 AM in reply to Silence
Every home foreclosure.
Every job lost.
Every child denied a college education.
This bill will tear this country to shreds.
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SchoolyT
March 21, 2010 11:50 AM in reply to Silence
Home foreclosures due to staggering medical bills?
Jobs created from the increase in HC jobs?
Education funded through an increase in direct government loans and the money saved by loan holders by going direct versus through a bank?
You must not have heard any of the debate on the reconciliation bill yesterday.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 12:26 PM in reply to SchoolyT
"Investigators with the U.S. Department of Commerce inspector general’s office reported finding numerous instances of waste, including paychecks of $300 apiece that went to thousands of temporary hires who performed little or no work. (Click here to read the IG’s report to Congress.) The findings were first reported by the Associated Press.
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Yup. A 25% budget over-run in one year..counting heads. I'm sure the HC bill will be a huge success!!
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 1:38 PM in reply to Silence
When you copied and pasted that nonsense you forgot to include the link to the "Proof". Its ok, we all know how long it too you to learn copy and paste. We all know adding links is advanced class. We support your drive to better yourself, and know you will do better in the future.
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Silence
March 21, 2010 1:54 PM in reply to Sir T
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/02/16/audit-finds-trouble-with-2010-census/tab/article/
Diversion does not discount truth.
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 2:20 PM in reply to Silence
YEY! Yuu learned how to LINK!! WOOHOO!
Sadly that has to do with some cost overruns in the CENSUS office. Is also from over a month ago (febuary 16th) and has nothing to do with job losses, home foreclosures, health care or what the guy was talking about.
Maybe you should bring in the cost of running disneyworld as that would be just as effective in disputing what the guy was talking about.
Yes I know thats why you didn't want to link it in the forst place you were out of links
idiot
Idiot
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Silence
March 21, 2010 9:32 PM in reply to Sir T
Um. The census is a govt project.
However, I won't call you an idiot. Your post speaks for itself.
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Sir T
March 23, 2010 11:46 PM in reply to Silence
A "Government project" that has nothing to do with home foreclosures or anything else you were talking about.
Maybe you want to bring in the cost of NASA as your next random link, hmm?
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 12:01 PM in reply to Silence
And when your gloom and doom predictions don't come true, what will you have to say then?? Geesh..
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Rich Mason
March 21, 2010 5:33 PM in reply to Silence
You're absolutely right about this.
The branding of this as "Obmamcare" while apparently brilliant (I'm an evil Republican)at the time was short sighted. We should have branded it as "Demo-care".
If if fails, and right at this moment you're 2 votes short, it will be a disaster for Obama but the Democratic party will have dodged a major bullet.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 10:29 PM in reply to Barney
Call the whaaaaaaabulance!
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sabatia
March 21, 2010 11:42 AM
The ultra right-wing has opposed and tried to tear down Obama since the day he was elected. There's all the "Birther" absolute nonsense. The pictures of Obama in whiteface and with a Hitler moustache. Now the Teapartiers have been revealed: At their core, they are racists and degraders. They hate what America has become: Civil Rights and environmental laws, Women's right to vote, Medicare and Social Security, the Smithsonian's new mega-exhibit on human origins, nonsense about taking guns away, etc. But what really riles them up is a black man in the White House. This story--and it now appears almost certain to have happened--will show the majority of Americans, who are in the middle politically, what kind of sensibility drives so-called-conservatives, right-wingers, Tea Partiers and all the other haters who have flocked to the Republican Party, with nary a word of reproof.
This is very good and widely playing news for Dems. The Rs have outed themselves. Most Americans just don't like this kind of extremism anymore. And, except during the brief aberation of the Know Nothing Party(an historical mirror image of the Teapartiers) in the mid-1800s, a majority of Americans has always rejected this kind of extremism. Yes, bigots and right-wing extremists can win elections and win states, but the American people have refused over and again to accept the bigotry and fear-mongering tht is at the core of the Tea Party movement, flogged as it is by Beck, Hannity, and the rest of the loudmouths at Faux.
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apache
March 21, 2010 12:00 PM
All of a sudden all of these right-wing spewers. They must have been at the weekly right-wing circle-jerk and, uh, finished early, so now they're looking for something to do. Premature ejaculation is a bitch.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 1:02 PM in reply to apache
How long have you been in the entitlement programs? You must get tired of holding you hand out all the time. I can tell you must have graduated from DIF, with you command of the english language. You can always tell the uninformed in these groups. In the end, they really haven't said anything. They only use pig language, because it makes them feel larger and more important. They are incapable of normal conversation,so the resort to pig talk. Did something happen to you when you were young? Do you suffer from small man syndrome? Were you an alter boy? How long have you been in this bed-wetting program? Don't worry there is help available.
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NobleCommentDecider
March 21, 2010 12:44 PM
A comment reposted from the NYT article on the hate spewing lowlife Teabaggers:
link
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 5:34 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
What an absolute bonehead. You liberals need racism. It is your only defense. I could'nt be his policies. We are all looking forward to being little marxist or communist. I know this is going to be very hard for you liberals to belive, but Obama is in bed with the insurance companies. Who do you think will benefit for 32 million more insureds? You are as blind as a bat! Communist and Democrats are devoted to the party and that is all they care about. Country-what country? Economy-what economy? You will try to push you liberal BS on the people and when they push back it is racism. I was really shocked over that accusation. It is same old BS over and over again. The US government is the biggest bunch of racist in the world. Why aren't we running over to Africa to save those people. Even if you pass healthcare in the House and Senate, it will never see the light of day. It was great that BO pissed off the very people that will decide this issue. They will be racist,too. I am sure the Supreme Court will look favorably on anything BO sends up.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 12:56 PM
Mike Viquera of MSNBC says it looks like we've got 215 for sure and a Stupak announcement they are ready to go YES.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NobleCommentDecider
March 21, 2010 1:11 PM
An open question to the trolls, Barney, Truthseeker, Chihuahua etc:
If Texas or Alaska do not secede from the Union, and since virtually every other industrialized country, and most second and even third world countries have actual government run socialized health care, and, also have strict gun control, I ask, where will you emigrate to with your guns and your hate?
What country in the world would welcome (or tolerate) folks like you?
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SFC MAC
March 21, 2010 1:19 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
Where will you go when the socialist dirtbag in the White House and his myrmidons succeed in "fundamentally transforming" America into a Banana Republic.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:00 PM in reply to SFC MAC
Banana republic? I thought the Dulles Brothers already did that to us back in the 50's?
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 2:17 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
They will not have to go anywhere. After we get rid of the communist and marxist in the government, we are going to get rid of their pals, people like you. China, North Korea and Cuba are always looking for more people to work in the prisons. It will give you an idea of what this country will be like 5 years from now. Who knows, you would probably like it over there. They are devoted to the Commuunist party. You are devoted to the Democratic party(very little difference), so you should fit right in.
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 1:13 PM
Is anyone going to comment on the fact that those of you democrats who are using the same racial/ignorant slurs towards us Republicans that you are attacking these protesters for allegedly saying. Calling us rednecks, comments along those lines, what makes you dems so f***ing high and mighty? Real nice one guys. Keep up the fantastic work. If they did in fact say what they are being accused of saying, they have not even a little bit of my support. Comments like that are ignorant and hurtful. But I have yet to hear any proof. What I have seen, is a bunch of hateful/RACIST/arrogant Democrats doing a false victory dance. Oh, and for you tough guys. My name is David Jensen. I live is St. Louis Park Minnesota. If you tough guys would like to drop by and 'teach me a lesson' Rest assured I will be outside waiting.
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 1:17 PM in reply to DavidJensen
And if you are going to try and tell me that calling a white man a Incest loving Redneck is different than calling a black man a nigger, or a gay man a faggot, you are truly blind to everything but your own agenda.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 1:19 PM in reply to DavidJensen
Just stay in St. Louis Park, Minnesota David. Go tell your troubles to Michelle Bachmann
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 1:23 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Oh damn. You sure proved everything I just said wrong. You dems are stupider than I thought.
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NobleCommentDecider
March 21, 2010 2:04 PM in reply to DavidJensen
Not so stupid as you were to vote for the two guys to the right David.
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 2:11 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
Yeah you're right, this whole obama is going great.
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 2:12 PM in reply to DavidJensen
whole obama thing**
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:37 PM in reply to DavidJensen
better every day...
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
And yet, you still have come up with no explanation of your words. Please, someone just tell me what gives you the right to call us Rednecks? And please, do tell me how this is different then what these people allegedly said? There is nothing but arrogance, and petty come backs in your words.
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SFC MAC
March 21, 2010 1:15 PM
THE STORY IS FALSE. You leftards and the author of this post need to check your facts next time.
http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/03/21/media-lying-about-racist-attacks-at-on-black-reps-by-tea-party-protesters-video-proof/
No one screamed “n***er.” No one screamed “f*ggot.” No one was spit on.
Do you suppose the state-run media will correct their propaganda piece now?
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 1:20 PM in reply to SFC MAC
Agreed. But these high and mighty (and apparently slurs do not apply to them) will believe whatever they want to believe. Things in the coming months will be very heated, that's for sure.
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 1:27 PM in reply to SFC MAC
Posting right wing Andrew Breitbart's website here as your source is supposed to convince us.!!!
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Sir T
March 21, 2010 2:09 PM in reply to SFC MAC
According to you, multiple reporters corroborating the story of what they heard and a video with the slurs audible is trumped by a right wing jackass who wasn't even there showing the very same 48 seconds of pure footage that was posted earlier in this commentary and was shredded. You lot are fucking desperate. You are going to keep posting that over and over as new "proof" aren't you? Entitle it "The 48 seconds that no-one said nigger!"
Hey ho. Oh what are you doing out of the freedom zone? You know the one that the freedom loving Bush put protesters into?
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lousgirl84
March 21, 2010 1:20 PM
Yeah like posting right wing Andrew Breitbart's website is going to be proof here at tpm.
GTFOOH
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SFC MAC
March 21, 2010 1:37 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Oh yeah, and your bleating over racism with no proof is real convincing too. GFY.
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DavidJensen
March 21, 2010 1:41 PM in reply to SFC MAC
Bleating over racism while calling republicans "sister fucking rednecks" and this is supposed to be somehow not racist? Only difference I can see, is that there is plenty of proof here.
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Odel Roo
March 21, 2010 1:46 PM in reply to DavidJensen
At TPM, for a few of their faithful, Ignorance is truly bliss -
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 2:32 PM
Winger desperation is palpable. Tastes like chicken to me.
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JEP07
March 21, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to clemenceau
so does rattlesnake...
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 2:50 PM in reply to JEP07
Except rattlesnakes have some sting. The right wing is all backwards "B" and no bite.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 3:02 PM in reply to clemenceau
Rattlesnakes can sting you? In addition to global warming, now we have to worry abour stinging rattlesnakes. Do they make their nests in trees? Did you read that in a AL Gore biology book?
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 3:25 PM in reply to wacky dems
Poetic license, apparently, confuses those that lack the capacity for abstract thought - an evolutionary advancement that appears to be lacking in the flat Earth, backwards "B" crowd.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 4:52 PM in reply to clemenceau
Of course! Why didn't I think of that. I am really impressed with your efforts to cover your statement. You must be one of those liberal intellectuals. I thought that poetic license was only available to artist and writers. We must be in the presence of a very important person. Is he going to have to cover his tracts again? I am betting yes. Abstract thought-thinking that is coherent and logical. Coherent-logically connected; consistent: a coherent argument. Logical-Of, relating to, in accordance with, or of the nature of logic. So, snakes and stinging are logically connected and it is logical that, like bees, snakes sting? Stinging snakes is an evolutionary advancement, Mr. Darwin (another nut like Gore)? It was a nice try to wiggle out of your misstatement. It was a nice try. If they can give the Nobel Peace Prize to BO for doing nothing, I am sure we can find something for you.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 5:51 PM in reply to wacky dems
I'm guessing you're not much fun at parties.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 6:28 PM in reply to clemenceau
Can't respond? You can't do any better than, "I'm guessing you're not much fun at parties." Do you mean communist parties? You make a dumb statement, try to cover it up and come back with that. You didn't dare take it any further. Just like the rest of your liberal buddies, you are a fraud. You got caught mouthing off, saying stupid stuff and that is all you have to say? Most of liberal democrats are nothing but empty suits. No spine, values (that mean anything), character or brains.I hope they are not letting any young people near you. That is a really scary thought.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 7:27 PM in reply to wacky dems
I rest my case.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 5:42 PM
Great quote. To bad we don't know who wrote it....
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” -- Author Unknown
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 6:01 PM
Hey wacky, hows that Waterloo thing workin' out for ya?
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 6:35 PM in reply to clemenceau
It worked out pretty well for me, Napoleon. I am going to bet that you are a little man, too. Sorry to see that it didn't go so well for you. You got crushed like a bug.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 6:31 PM
Two hours and counting.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 7:32 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Amen.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 7:44 PM in reply to clemenceau
Your count does not mean anything, little man.
BOISE, Idaho — Idaho took the lead in a growing, nationwide fight against health care overhaul Wednesday when its governor became the first to sign a measure requiring the state attorney general to sue the federal government if residents are forced to buy health insurance.
Similar legislation is pending in 37 other states.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 7:53 PM in reply to wacky dems
You really need to work on convincing your mom to let you have girls into the basement.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 8:32 PM in reply to clemenceau
Are you trying to invite yourself? You have been exibiting some feminine tendecies. I couldn't possibly have you over, you wet the bed. I'm going to bet you suck your thumb, too.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 9:25 PM in reply to wacky dems
I'll bet even plants shy away from you.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 7:55 PM in reply to wacky dems
Great. Let all the reactionary states pull out of it. More money for those of us states who WANT affordable, reliable health care for all our citizens.
Buh-bye!
(And, BTW, you sent those stimulus funds back yet?)
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 8:40 PM in reply to Cal Gal
"More money for those of us states who WANT affordable, reliable health care for all of our citizens." More money for you. Seems pretty appearant, you have no intention of paying anything. Affordable=free. Another one feeding at the public trough.
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labman57
March 21, 2010 8:17 PM
A shame that no major department stores are running a White Sale on linens so that the tea baggers could buy the appropriate protest wardrobe at discounted prices.
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 9:12 PM in reply to labman57
That was really good. How long did it take you come up with that? I noticed you had clemetine chiming in. You may not be sharp enough to figure this out, but I will post it anyway. You want to see who should be wearing the sheets. This is from your beloved government and is currently in the law books. Try not to get your panties in a knot. This could upset most woman.
CITE-
42 USC Sec. 1982 01/16/96
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TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE
CHAPTER 21 - CIVIL RIGHTS
SUBCHAPTER I - GENERALLY
-HEAD-
Sec. 1982. Property rights of citizens
-STATUTE-
All citizens of the United States shall have the same right, in
every State and Territory, as is enjoyed by white citizens thereof
to inherit, purchase, lease, sell, hold, and convey real and
personal property.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 9:21 PM in reply to wacky dems
Randy Weaver, is that you? Have you burned through all that gov money already?
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 9:45 PM in reply to clemenceau
I noticed that since you first BS post, you have had zero substance. Is that the best you can do, clementine? What's wrong with Randy Weaver? Seems link you might be intimidated by real men. Randy Weaver smoked the government's rear-end in court. I believe he won $4 million. You chosing a man that lost his wife and son, speaks volumes about you. I bet you ran from fights growing up. Guantee a pussy like you never spent any time in the military. Now you hide on sites like this, hoping that you will not be found out. Your mention of Rany Weaver's name indicates what a characterless little pussy you are. Liars, thieves and corrupt people are your heros. People like Obalosi, Dirty Harry, Charlie Rangle, Barney, Kenndy and the rest of the crooks are your heros and thats because you are like them. If you were a decent person, you would be repulsed by them. I don't think we have to worry about you being a decent person. You are a fraud. Just like your friends in DC. You are not their friend. They use you and you gladly oblige. You think they are interested in you and they are, but only what they can get out of you. It is time to wake up, dummy.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 10:30 PM in reply to wacky dems
If I thought were going to cry I would have brought a hankie.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 8:37 PM
All 300 of them.
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ShadowdogKGB
March 21, 2010 9:42 PM
THIS STORY IS A TOTAL LIE. IT SIMPLY DID NOT HAPPEN.
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apache
March 21, 2010 9:47 PM
Paranoia running pretty deep tonight. And preoccupation with "little men".
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wacky dems
March 21, 2010 10:28 PM in reply to apache
If you are paranoid, admitting it was the best thing you could have done. Are you concerned about what the little men will do to you? You do not need to be afraid of the little men, they will not harm you. They are afraid of real men. You aren't one of the little men, are you?
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CaliLiberal
March 21, 2010 9:56 PM
I'm saddened to hear the racist comments that were hurled at a man of such integrity as John Lewis. Barney Frank also displayed his courage by wading through the fear driven and hate filled crowd.
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ShadowdogKGB
March 21, 2010 10:10 PM in reply to CaliLiberal
The problem is it never happened. You're so quick to believe aren't you.
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whitenoise100
March 22, 2010 8:34 AM in reply to ShadowdogKGB
I guess Eric Cantor is a liar than?
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 10:26 PM
John Boner's not getting the responses he wants, from the floor or from the Speaker.
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clemenceau
March 21, 2010 10:37 PM in reply to Cal Gal
I thought he was going to start crying - that is until one of staffers signaled to him that there were still a few fingers left in the bottle.
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Cal Gal
March 21, 2010 11:34 PM
So, it's all about Bart Stupak.
What a waste of a moment to make a historic statement. He almost did, he had hints of a couple of good ideas, but in the end he wasn't ready for his close-up.
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March 22, 2010 10:32 AM
I am a VN Vet and I know about BEING SPIT ON!
The spitters were the same type political people, I suspect, that use the F word on this sight and don't see the hypocrisy in it
I was at this rally for 41/2 hours. I was in a position to observe congressman pass from the capital to office buildings. I also was in the house office buildings and observed the republican news conference and I observed that Dem offices were locked while most Rep offices were open. DEMONSTRATORS CHEERED, CHANTED AND BOOED BUT NEVER SPIT OR MADE RACIST COMMENTS TO AFM CONGRESSMAN.
I never heard the "N" word used EVER and never saw anyone spit on.
I submit that Congressman Clyburn and other AfM Dem congressman are using race to denigrate the protesters and therefore I accuse Congressman Clyburn of racism much as President Obama used race with his grandmother and black Honolulu panhandler (this story is not true!) and his profile of all white policeman as RACISTS!
Rep Rangel is BLIND! I personally met 3 AfM at this rally and saw many others!!! Charlie says none, none, none ever have participated! I also saw a number of blacks at last years 9/12 DC rally. Charlie is race bating and can not accept that not all AfM agree with him!
I called Rep Rangel's office and asked to have him informed of the presence of many blacks at these rallies.
I have yet to see a video/audio of these accusations and there were many video crews at all points.
Who was the person that was or was not arrested for spitting on Rep. Lewis and what was his/her affiliation?
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ikoiko
March 22, 2010 11:16 AM
I saw a lot of videos on YouTube of the marches, and saw the CBC walk together to the capitol, and never heard anyone yell the N-word. They yelled : BOOOOO, and Kill the bill, but NEVER racist slurs. as to Barney Frank, he's openly gay, and by all his action he acts like a communist, so where's the slur in "Gay Communist"?
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Texas Aggie
March 22, 2010 12:29 PM
The problem with these people is that they give white trash a bad name.
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mizgoogoo
March 22, 2010 4:56 PM
to the folks who didn't think there was any video of this stuff, I watched it on David Frum's blog (frumforum) last night (the N word too) when I stumbled upon his Waterloo article (good stuff). I just checked and the videos are gone. AS for IkoIko, they didn't call him Gay. They called him faggot. Not the same thing.
I'm pretty centrist and I'd say, if Republicans really want to restore their dignity, they need to stop throwing raw meat to these people who are nothing but angry with no solutions and no real insight into anything about how government works, policy, or anything. It's horrible to watch. You can deny the racist angle all you want, but I am from South Louisiana and I get the emails and when I'm home, I hear it in person: these people are unapologizing racists. I can't get home for more than 5 minutes before I hear the N word in casual conversation. They are so consumed with it, they can't go five minutes without commenting. I live away and when I'm away, I think that there has been progress and then I go home and utterly sad at what I hear. Until they get out from under the racism rock, they won't be able to really look at issues before them and make rational decisions that will truly help them. Not saying they have to be liberal, but this kind of "conservatism" is utterly insane. Heartbreaking even. And the venom on this thread is just another case in point. Sad. Truly sad.
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Nuclear Hank
March 22, 2010 6:29 PM
I just watched the video http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/03/21/media-lying-about-racist-attacks-at-on-black-reps-by-tea-party-protesters-video-proof/
My wife and I were there standing on the street corner. The "N" word was not used! We did not see anyone spitting on anyone.
This really helps with race relations-not! What do we do if there are many Black Panthers out side polling stations in November? Now tell me again how this is post racial!
I called Rep. Tim Ryan (OH-D) and asked if his staffer understood "Tea Bagger". He reluctantly admitted that he did.
I asked that the Congressman consider the hypocrisy of calling people Tea Baggers while bemoaning the use of the "N" word and faggot.
I recommend that posters here google "tea bagger" and realize their own hypocrisy!
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Spiffarino
March 23, 2010 1:39 AM in reply to Nuclear Hank
Unless you walked the gauntlet with Reps. Lewis and Frank, you wouldn't know. People who did heard it. You can choose to believe or not, but it doesn't alter reality much as you'd like it to, Teabagger.
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Nuclear Hank
March 23, 2010 12:00 AM
Why did the CBC cross in the middle of a rally against their avowed bill when they could have gone underground where the passage was blocked off from demonstrators????
(I was there-no spitting-no "N" word)
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Spiffarino
March 23, 2010 1:37 AM in reply to Nuclear Hank
Because, unlike Republicans, they aren't afraid of people who disagree with them even when they are obnoxious, spitting, racist assholes.
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Nuclear Hank
March 23, 2010 11:09 AM
I called Rep. Cleaver's office and they said no one was arrested and they had not identified the person accused of spitting on the congressman.
I called FOX 4 News Kansas City who reported the incidents as if they were fact much as the lead article here. I asked that in the future they do some investigative journalism and until sure of the facts to use the modifier "alleged".
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Tosh
June 5, 2010 10:37 PM
How can anyone claim that Obama's attempts at bipartisanship were "mollycoddling" and he really should have "kicked ass" right from the start ??
Wake up and smell the latte, folks: Obama is the Sidney Poitier of Presidents !
He can't just HOLD the toughest job in the world .... it doesn't matter he took office right when America hit its lowest point in three generations ..... and the Rethugs can stonewall and belittle him all they want.
Obama knows that if doesn't somehow rise above these impossible conditions, he won't just go down in history as our first African-American President.
He'll also be the LAST one for a very, VERY long time.
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June 14, 2010 9:51 AM
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June 26, 2010 4:20 AM
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July 8, 2010 3:08 AM
I'm pretty centrist and I'd say, if Republicans really want to restore their dignity, they need to stop throwing raw meat to these people who are nothing but angry with no solutions and no real insight into anything about how government works, policy, or anything. It's horrible to watch. You can deny the racist angle all you want, but I am from South Louisiana and I get the emails and when I'm home, I hear it in person: these people are unapologizing racists. I can't get home for more than 5 minutes before I hear the N word in casual conversation. They are so consumed with it, they can't go five minutes without commenting. I live away and when I'm away, I think that there has been progress and then I go home and utterly sad at what I hear. Until they get out from under the racism rock, they won't be able to really look at issues before them and make rational decisions that will truly help them. Not saying they have to be liberal, but this kind of "conservatism" is utterly insane. Heartbreaking even. And the venom on this thread is just another case in point. Sad. Truly sad.domain
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September 26, 2010 2:25 AM
Here is the "proof". Odd that anyone else concerned about this story hasn't posted the "proof" prominently near the story so that it could be seen by all. Some of us hearing impaired like myself are unable to hear it. If anyone who can hear the epithets reported to have been spoken, would be kind enough to note how many seconds into the recording they can hear these epithets,I would then be able to listen more carefully so that maybe I could hear them I sure would appreciate anyone's help on this. Thanks in advance. UK Hotels
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