
Scattered amongst the now-familiar chants, shouts and cackles at this morning's Code Red tea party-style rally on Capitol Hill (you know the drill -- "Kill the Bill!," "Shame!," etc) was a new line of attack on the Democratic health care reform package and the woman trying to bring it to final passage in the House, Nancy Pelosi.
"Treason!" several in the audience yelled as Pelosi's "deem and pass" plan was criticized by speaker after speaker standing in the center of the circle of several hundred protesters. "Try her for treason!"
Joe Lisanti, a physician from Ohio, was one of the loudest in the crowd calling for Pelosi to face charges for the deem and pass plan. See Lisanti explain his position in an interview with me after the jump.
"I would call that stepping on the Constitution," Lisanti said when I asked him why deem and pass rises to the level of a crime. "And when you take an oath to uphold the constitution and you don't? Yeah, I think you should be tried for treason."
Watch:
Lisanti said this was his fifth rally in DC to stop the reform process, which he said carried special meaning for him as a doctor.
"I took an oath to protect my patients," he said when I asked him why he keeps coming back. "And that's why I'm here."
By a long shot, the rally was not the largest tea party gathering we've seen in DC as the movement has fought against health care. But most of the messaging and speaker line up was the same. The biggest difference? Instead of a large, angry crowds, this morning's rally was a small, angry crowd. As in the past, the crowd held signs calling the reform bill "Senior Genocide" and featuring images of a vampire-like Obama caricature stepping out of a coffin.
The speakers were similar to ones we've seen in the past, too. The crowd cheered loudest for Rep. Michele Bachman (R-MN), who promised that conservatives will kill reform by the weekend, when Democratic leaders say they'll schedule a final House vote on a reform package.
Bachmann was the star, but other conservative pols who have made it a habit of riding the tea party circuit in recent months also got their chance at the mics. Each tried to offer their own soundbite to the pack of reporters gathered at one end of the circle of protesters.
Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN), who's vying for the tea party vote to support a likely presidential bid, tried to use "Schoolhouse Rock" to make a point that reconciliation and deem and pass were not the way most people think "a bill becomes a law."
Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX) decided to go with some gross-out humor when he described the the anti-choice crowd's objections to the bill. He brought a copy of what he said was the legislation with him and waved it high over his head.
"I'm sure that there are people here who think abortion is okay, and I don't want to make you sick" he said, according to video snagged by ThinkProgress, "but I brought an abortion to show you today."
Other speakers included other tea party favorites like Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN).
In her speech, Bachmann promised that tea partiers will remain in Washington for the rest of the week to press lawmakers to stop the reform bill in the homestretch.
mans_best_friend
March 16, 2010 1:10 PM
Schoolhouse Rock?? Really?? That's the level of understanding at these rallies.
Stupidity must be carried by a virus or something. It's spreading fast.
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PeninsulaMatt
March 16, 2010 1:28 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
Schoolhouse Rock's "I'm just a Bill" was indoctrinating our children in the belief that government intervention is a good thing. Why, oh why, must school buses stop at every single railroad crossing? Aren't school bus drivers smarter than members of Congress? Shouldn't they have the personal freedom to decide whether or not to stop? Terrible, TERRIBLE! That goes for all traffic signals; nothing but government intervention in our lives. Same with speed limits. The Germans can speed, why can't we? It's Nancy Pelosi's fault. Obviously.
(sorry, I must have tapped in to my inner-tea-partier; time for some coffee)
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Donald from Hawaii
March 16, 2010 2:14 PM in reply to PeninsulaMatt
No, no, do keep going. It was just getting interesting ...
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Docb
March 16, 2010 2:30 PM in reply to PeninsulaMatt
We are reporting on a crowd of less than 1000 when there were 10,000 rallying against the Insurers in DC..What is up with that crap!
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sagesource
March 16, 2010 3:06 PM in reply to Docb
Farts get more attention than perfume. Even if it's not favorable.
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ahumbleopinion
March 16, 2010 3:34 PM in reply to Docb
Maybe Tea Party folks are finally waking up to the fact they are nothing more than props in Republican Party performance art.
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Donald from Hawaii
March 16, 2010 2:13 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
Oh, c'mon, stupidity is not carried by a virus! Didn't you see the movie Deliverance? It's what always happens in communities where your local high school's alma mater is "Dueling Banjoes", the phrase "Mama's ridin' shotgun" has a whole different meaning in these parts than elsewhere, everyone in your daughter's official wedding party photos is holding a can of beer, and your daughter's new brother-in-law is also your uncle.
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shooter242
March 16, 2010 2:59 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
Yes, Schoolhouse rock. It was a very good way to explain how legislation comes about. Now, if you want to try and explain to people why the House wants to deviate from that procedure, on a landmark bill, be my guest. Any explanation you can come up with is going to sound like a Chavez move.
The funny part is that if it's passed this way, it has to go back to the Senate where only parts are eligible for reconciliation, thereby killing the whole thing there. That my friend is why Schoolhouse Rock is the only way you folks are going to get anything at all. It's the Senate bill exactly as passed there, or nothing.
Keep up the good work.
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worthy9
March 16, 2010 5:21 PM in reply to shooter242
Did Cesar Chavez write Article 1, Section 5 of the US Constitution?
"Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member."
The Houses of Congress have determined that this procedure is a part of their rules and so it is in full conformity with constitutional law. Just because you hate that they've found a way doesn't mean it's illegitimate, though I can see why that reality is preferable to you. It's been done before and it will be done again; the only difference now it that it's a controversial bill.
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davewtf
March 16, 2010 6:57 PM in reply to shooter242
Republicans did it a lot. Check out your data.
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Pete Bilderback
March 16, 2010 1:26 PM
I wonder if the Teabaggers will feel let down when these promises to kill the bill and try Pelosi for treason come to nothing?
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Pope Ratzo
March 16, 2010 2:18 PM in reply to Pete Bilderback
How did we feel when our promises of transparency, accountability for the Bush Administration, closing Guantanamo, repeal of DADT, and a "change in the way we do business" came to nothing?
Of course, the teabaggers will be pissed. But they're pissed already, so what's the difference?
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tommyo
March 16, 2010 1:27 PM
These are the bigoted, tantrum throwing imbeciles and idiots whose boots the GOP has slavishly licking.
So a sitting GOP Governor calling seccession an option for his state is o.k. with them but using a previously uncontroversial (meaning when the GOP uses it) parlimentary procedure is treason.
Man, how low that GOP has sunk.
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matts2
March 16, 2010 1:35 PM
So stepping on the Constitution is treason. I guess the Constitution got the definition of treason wrong.
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Overreach THIS!
March 16, 2010 2:17 PM in reply to matts2
Here is his outer-space complaint, if you listen again: "When you 'deem' a bill, that's not how the House of Representatives is supposed to pass a bill."
That makes no sense and is incoherent, it is not even English, and most certainly it has nothing to do with the Constitution (which he ignorantly referenced).
This law is going to be voted on, and the Constitution provides for that in some detail. So, don't believe everything you hear, especially from brownshirts. A clue: when rightists/"libertarians" start calling out the Constitution, it's a *very* good sign that they don't know anything about the Constitution or much at all else worth knowing.
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Donald from Hawaii
March 16, 2010 2:18 PM in reply to matts2
Oh, absolutely! That's why Texas is rewriting its statewide curriculum standards for teaching American history, so that Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis are given equal weight in any discussion of the U.S. Civil War.
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davewtf
March 16, 2010 7:00 PM in reply to matts2
Were you one of the one's out there protesting when Bush DESTROYED the Bill of Rights? When he daily ignored the constitution?
Doubtful
So stop bitching just because the Republicans are no longer in power.
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worthy9
March 16, 2010 8:37 PM in reply to davewtf
I think you misunderstand his post. He was saying that the uninformed citizen in the video (and I'm being overly generous here) either doesn't know how treason is defined in the Constitution or he's misinterpreted it.
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ogliberal
March 16, 2010 1:38 PM
Are any of these folks not certifiable loony birds? Treason. Really? What a dumb ass.
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Dogger
March 17, 2010 3:11 AM in reply to ogliberal
You're overlooking the upside. We could jail every Republican who tramples the First Amendment by enacting laws requiring the teaching of religious dogma known as creationism.
If being a Republican is outlawed, only outlaws will be Republicans.
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ogliberal
March 16, 2010 1:40 PM
And jesus fracking christ, look at that still shot. If I didn't know they were in DC I would think this was an interview some Aryan group at a survivalist camp in Idaho.
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Overreach THIS!
March 16, 2010 2:21 PM in reply to ogliberal
This is the point. *Look* who these people are!!
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Brownbagger
March 16, 2010 2:39 PM in reply to ogliberal
A lot of towns are missing their idiots today.
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MoCrash
March 16, 2010 3:26 PM in reply to ogliberal
Is the guy in the center of the top photo Nicholas Cage playing the lead role in the Timothy McVeigh biopic?
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pmb50
March 16, 2010 1:41 PM
The imbecile brigade is back in Washington
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pmb50
March 16, 2010 1:44 PM
Its interesting that these hysterical shit heads like to pick and choose what’s constitutional and what is not. It always falls in line with what they like or dislike. Healthcare bad spying on Americans good
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CityGuy
March 16, 2010 1:49 PM in reply to pmb50
And don't forget that water-boarding and wars of aggression are good also. (And not treasonous.) Well that's what Karl Rove told me at least!
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mike from Arlington
March 16, 2010 1:44 PM
These idiots are listening to Mark Levin.
He's been hammering on about this for a week now hardcore.
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mycomment
March 16, 2010 1:55 PM in reply to mike from Arlington
mark levin is one of the yakkers that has so impressed virginia thomas. along with beck, limbaugh, and ingraham.
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ogliberal
March 16, 2010 2:00 PM in reply to mike from Arlington
Exactly. And that's because these idiots don't have a single indepedent or original thought in their head. They just believe and repeat whatever Rush or Glenn or Levin tells them or what they read in the chain email they just got from Cousin Earl's buddy, Fred.
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barnacle
March 16, 2010 1:47 PM
wottabunchastupes!
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psyclone
March 16, 2010 1:50 PM
These porkballs wouldn't know treason if it came up and shot them in the face during a canned quail-hunt.
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sagesource
March 16, 2010 3:10 PM in reply to psyclone
If you think their definition of treason is funny, then ask them to define socialism.
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leoklein
March 16, 2010 1:52 PM
They address each other as 'Patriots' so why wouldn't they call anyone they don't agree with traitors?
Appropriation of national symbols for their own political use is the very definition of a right-winger.
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Donald from Hawaii
March 16, 2010 2:59 PM in reply to leoklein
That's because they're inherently incapable of original thought.
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Ann Arbor
March 16, 2010 1:56 PM
I hope Pelosi has good security.
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Michael A
March 16, 2010 2:05 PM in reply to Ann Arbor
Cosign, big time. I really, really hope she has excellent security. The reich wingers are stirring up a disaster with all their talk and throw guns in the mix and you have the makings of an incredible tragedy.
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zonk
March 16, 2010 2:43 PM in reply to Michael A
Me?
I hope she has foul-tempered, big, bruising, brook no guff security.
Being the liberal type, I'd normally be against such things - but in this case? If Madame Speaker happens to have some goon named Rocco, well...
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NobleCommentDecider
March 16, 2010 1:58 PM
According to Lisanti's page at healthgrades-link Lisanti does not take Medicare or Medicaid. He takes:
Lisanti-Insurance Accepted:
* Humana
* Amerigoup
* BCBS
* United Health Care
Other doctors in Ohio at the same healthgrades site are listed as taking Medicare and Medicaid, so I assume if he doesn't take Medicare there is some doubt as to how honestly concerned Dr. Lisanti is about Ohio seniors and their access to health care.
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M.L.H.
March 16, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
I would say this shows he is consistent in his views that government health care is bad.
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zonk
March 16, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to M.L.H.
No - that would be why he doesn't treat veterans (at least, vets who get their health care through the VA).
What it means is that he's consistent in his views that government health insurance is bad.
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NobleCommentDecider
March 16, 2010 3:29 PM in reply to M.L.H.
I would say this is consistent with his desire to protect Joe Lisanti and his own wallet, not the Constitution.
For a doctor demonstrating with guys waving 'Senior Genocide' signs not taking the primary insurance (Medicare) that covers seniors shows the usual hypocrisy of the tea party crowd. It is all about them, their rights, their wallets and their freedoms. End of story.
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NobleCommentDecider
March 16, 2010 4:03 PM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
A more appropriate sign for Dr. Lisanti to wave would be:
Save My Fat Wallet! To hell with seniors and the poor!
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lotl
March 17, 2010 3:53 AM in reply to NobleCommentDecider
Not to mention the fact that I don't see how he's "helping his patients" by constantly being out of his office to attend rallies. Self-centered DB.
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human
March 16, 2010 1:58 PM
First, she has the audacity to demand a majority vote, next thing you know we're the Soviet States of America--wake up people!
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Overreach THIS!
March 16, 2010 2:18 PM in reply to human
We're going to win this. Enjoy the victory!
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zonk
March 16, 2010 2:46 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
I'm already trying to formulate what I mail Jim DeMint (of 'Waterloo' fame).
Old ABBA CDs or recipes for beef wellington?
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expat46
March 16, 2010 9:18 PM in reply to zonk
How about a pair of Wellington boots?
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rbeats
March 16, 2010 1:58 PM
Why do you, and msnbc have these thugs on the frontpage, when last week tens of thousands marched in a dozen cities to support the Public Option.
Come on.
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Venerable Rinpoche
March 16, 2010 2:02 PM
So what if they call Pelosi treasonous. They don't count for shit except for the way the media fawns over them. There was a demonstration recently by people demanding healthcare, and they didn't count for shit in the media.
I am not entertained.
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woundedduck
March 16, 2010 2:32 PM in reply to Venerable Rinpoche
the inmates are running the asylum.
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Michael A
March 16, 2010 2:07 PM
Where was the treason talk concerning the king? He killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of innocents and lied the american people into WAR! Also, he shredded the constitution. That is treason. Where were the cries of treason then from the reich wingers?????? Out-f*cking-rageous.
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mophan
March 16, 2010 2:49 PM in reply to Michael A
You can't be talking about o'Dubya. He kept America safe! There were no terrorist attacks on American soil on his watch! A true patriot.
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ariuszme
March 16, 2010 2:12 PM
The gift that keeps on giving. These right wing /teabaggers just keep on proving how looney tunes they are.
They are complete unAmerican batsh't crazy, uneducated, brainwashed, looney tunes.
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zonk
March 16, 2010 2:14 PM
Only in America could secessionists have the audacity to screech about treason.
Teabagger nation: a world without irony.
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georgecs
March 16, 2010 2:15 PM
YEAH! How dare Pelosi and the radical lefty Socialists get between me and a nice big ass-fucking by the insurance industry?!
FREE CIGNA!
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Kaneblues
March 16, 2010 2:16 PM
It seems like only yesterday when the pro-health reform crowds gathered in the streets protesting the insurance companies and calling for action to pass the bill. It's too bad those crowds were largely ignored in the media and here at TPM.
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rynato
March 16, 2010 2:18 PM
These 'tards discovered the Constitution on 1/20/09.
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psyclone
March 16, 2010 9:55 PM in reply to rynato
Well, at least some bizarro conservapedia version thereof anyway.
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Shoto
March 16, 2010 2:24 PM
When I think "Teabaggers," I automatically think "Constitutional Scholars." You bet.
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Vertigo
March 16, 2010 2:25 PM
Why have a "trial"? Why not just skip straight to the lynching?
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zonk
March 16, 2010 2:39 PM in reply to Vertigo
Sure, give them ideas.
I'd personally tell 'em all to go jump off a cliff, but then - I think it would be quite easy for any DA to make a manslaughter case against me since it's quite probable one could prove my telling them to do just that had a reasonable chance of causing the lemmings to do just that.
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Vertigo
March 16, 2010 3:17 PM in reply to zonk
They don't need my help hatching bad, dangerous ideas.
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woundedduck
March 16, 2010 2:28 PM
If Lisanti is worried about protecting his patients, I suppose that means he offers free medical services to anyone who can't afford his fees or insurance or has a pre-existing condition. I'm sure that's what he does. What a guy.
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M.L.H.
March 16, 2010 2:39 PM
I would like to have a good estimate of the crowd sizes for this and the public option rally last week. Did anyone think of getting up on a roof and taking a picture from above?
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Brownbagger
March 16, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to M.L.H.
That could be risky. I'm thinking about half these angry Nazis brought concealed weapons and itchy fingers.
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M.L.H.
March 16, 2010 5:14 PM in reply to M.L.H.
Over at the Huffington Post, they are talking about the numbers. Dems are saying maybe 300 people, organizers are saying maybe 1,000 to 3,000. In either case, teeny tiny, a drop in the bucket.
OTOH, I expect the pro-immigration crowd next weekend to be at least ten times the larger estimate and to get damned little coverage. I'm guessing this from the experience here in Oakland a few years back.
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Lono65
March 16, 2010 2:48 PM
Jeezus, don't any of these people have jobs? I really wish I could spend my days at rallies and/or on the phone annoying my representatives, but I actually have to work for a living.
Of course, it's entirely possible that they're just too damn dumb to hold onto a job.
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lotl
March 17, 2010 4:13 AM in reply to Lono65
looks like a lot of them are of retirement age ("keep the gov't outta my Medicare!") or they're well-to-do professionals like Dr. Compassionate there who can afford to take time off when they want. Or...they're just welfare kings and queens who need to get a damn job! /snark
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
March 16, 2010 2:51 PM
Time for my standard rant against fools who don't know the difference between advocating policies they don't like and treason.
U.s. Const., Art. 3, Sec. 3:
Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution. The Founders put it into the Constitution and defined it extremely narrowly because they knew, many from bitter personal experience, that the charge of "treason" had been the plaything of tyrants for millenia. The people who go around crying "treason" all the time betray a fundementally authoritarian mindset. That's one reason I alway take people on the left to task for doing it.
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Progressive Party
March 16, 2010 2:57 PM
I imagine that the Tea Party candidate for President in 2012 will be me!
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traunch
March 16, 2010 2:57 PM
Resolved:
Following the MainStreamMedia,
TPM gives Waaay more coverage to TeaBaggers and their events than they give to Pro-Health Care Reform Events.
WHY?
anyone?anyone?
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Kaneblues
March 16, 2010 4:51 PM in reply to traunch
If I remember correctly, on March 9th, when several thousands gathered to protest the insurance companies and give support to passing the health care bill, TPM didn't offer as little as a video or a photo of the event. Nor did they write a story or provide editor insights on the event.
Instead, on that day there was a front page teabagger story entitled, "Conservative Activists Gather At Hunan Dynasty For Anti-Reform Press Conference" and another front page teabagger related article of how Big Business groups are gearing up for another big anti-reform fight.
To answer your question as to "Why" this is, I don't know the answer. But I can assure you that it has not gone without notice.
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traunch
March 16, 2010 11:10 PM in reply to Kaneblues
Yeah. I can understand it when the scant coverage on March 9th has CNN's Avishai baldheaded guy asking the reporter on the ground if any teabaggers were at the pro-health care reform, Anti-Insurance rally. They can't help themselves they can't focus on the fact that really most people in this country want reform. Most people even want a lot of the things in this screwy bill. But I get that the corporate media refuses to report any leftward broad social movement in this way. [remember the antiwar marches?]
OK so thats them.
But really, WTF TPM? a slideshow and scant if any on the ground reporting.
WTF TPM?
Stop ignoring the people who get off their asses and into the streets for health care reform!
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Kaneblues
March 16, 2010 2:59 PM
These are the same people who only a few years ago were outraged that anyone would publicly protest our government during a time of war, that such displays were only making our enemies stronger.
Whatever happened to that argument?
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lousgirl84
March 16, 2010 3:45 PM in reply to Kaneblues
Hypocrisy
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lotl
March 17, 2010 4:18 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Notice also that THEY aren't herded into "free speech zones" lest they disturb the President, or get some media coverage.
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mophan
March 16, 2010 2:59 PM
I have a hard time understanding how someone can rationalize a position that includes a viral hatred of all things government on one hand; and in other hand an arrogant presumptuous attitude in the private lives of others. How can someone justify such a position?
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Matt Jones
March 16, 2010 3:06 PM in reply to mophan
It makes a lot more sense if you get into the Tea Party headspace: take your head and insert it into your rectum. Hold for an infinity count. :)
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davis13
March 16, 2010 3:01 PM
(insert dueling banjos)
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Max Thrax
March 16, 2010 3:09 PM
2030: the end of the white majority. If we can just manage to make until then.
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Jorge
March 16, 2010 3:10 PM
Ev, don't you ever feel a little threatened by these hooligans? Old NRA dude looks skurry.
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Kuro
March 16, 2010 3:11 PM
Using this logic, we should go get Dick Cheney and lock him up! Bush and Cheney gang raped the constitution lock'em up!
To be honest these teabaggers can all go jump in the lake for all I care.
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Hoost
March 16, 2010 3:14 PM
I guarantee he gets it on with that NRA guy after the interview. So hott!
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xargaw
March 16, 2010 3:21 PM
While I have not been a fan of the HCR Bill because I do not think it goes nearly far enough, I find it very telling that these Tea Party types sat silient when it became apparent that Bush had sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths in a cooked up War, yet want to fry the Speaker that is trying to give health coverage for millions of our own citizens.
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FreemanW
March 16, 2010 3:32 PM in reply to xargaw
Is that what they're protesting?
I thought they were simply and generally pissed that there was a black man in the White House and the Fascist Reprobates were out of power in Congress.
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KateO
March 16, 2010 3:44 PM in reply to FreemanW
Not only a colored man in the White House (get it?) but a broad as Speaker of the House. These guys are losing their colony and they are spitting mad.
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lousgirl84
March 16, 2010 4:00 PM in reply to KateO
You got it.!!!
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Powkat
March 16, 2010 3:58 PM
Yes, when calling for the impeachment of the Speaker of the House (as you say, KateO, a broad) always have the guy in the NRA backing your play. It looks more official that way.
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Andreams
March 16, 2010 4:52 PM
Why are taxpayers paying for these elected nuts to incite riots and advocate the overthrow of the government? Sure seems like a waste of taxpayer money to me!
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jsdc007
March 16, 2010 6:05 PM
Morons.
Pick up a dictionary, the US Constitution, and reference WESTLAW to understand the meaning of "treason." It's not treason if you just don't like it.
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pbeat
March 16, 2010 6:45 PM
This guy doesn't know school house rock. He doesn't know that reconciliation is legal and that is why the Republicans used it to pass legislation that they wanted and now use the fillibuster to stop legislation that they don't. Somehow in his warped mind and eating too many free lunches provided by phamaceutical companies, he thinks treason is voting against Republicans. He doesn't know school house rock, he only knows Kid Rock
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georgiab
March 16, 2010 7:06 PM in reply to pbeat
I'm betting this guy is as much a Dr as Joe is a plumber. These people scare the heck out of me.
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lotl
March 17, 2010 4:28 AM in reply to georgiab
You never know. Having a medical degree doesn't guarantee you're a genius. Or that you have a heart. Or a soul.
Am I the only one who wonders what happens to doctors who graduate near the bottom of their class...maybe we should ask this guy...?
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ponds
March 16, 2010 8:20 PM
Just checked ABMS.org to see if this guy is board-certified in anything. He is not. So, in other words, he cares so much about his patients that he didn't even bother to continue his medical education. In today's world it is unconscionable for a physician to not be board certified. Family practice residency program and board certification have been around for at least 40 years.
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John
March 16, 2010 8:28 PM
I looked up Dr. Joe Lisanti of Ohio on Health Grades. His patients gave him a low 2 stars out of 5 on the following question:
"Do you trust your physician to make decisions/recommendations that are in your best interests?"
Guess that says it all.
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traunch
March 16, 2010 11:21 PM in reply to John
Most Doctors Support a Public Option!
Robert Wood Johnson did a survey last fall and found that Most Doctors across all disciplines and geography prefer a public option.
http://www.rwjf.org/healthreform/product.jsp?id=48408
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lotl
March 17, 2010 4:24 AM in reply to John
It really is amazing how some of them stay in practice. Oh wait...bribes to the state medical board, most likely. Hmm, someone should look him up on the med board's website and see if he's had any formal disciplinary actions against him...
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susanthe
March 16, 2010 11:17 PM
Judd Gregg supported the use of reconciliation during the Bush admin. Where were all these sunshine patriots back then?
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Bolshevik in Jesustan
March 17, 2010 12:16 AM
Just more political kabuki from the loons on the right; that their numbers are dwindling are showing one of two things: 1. That people within the movement are beginning to realize they're being used, or 2. That people within the movement are realizing they're wrong.
Course, there's a third possibility, and that's that Dick Armey and Co. at FreedomWorks — oh, right, he resigned. uh-huh. Anyway, that FreedomWorks is running out of money to bus in their astroturf "protesters."
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xpatriate
March 17, 2010 1:31 AM
Now wait a minute, which country does the doctor guy think he's living in anyway? Has Nancy been passing nuclear fuel rods to the Iranians and we don't know about it? For the love of Pete, she's just trying to get laws passed so that FEWER people who are sick don't have to die in a ditch somewhere because insurance companies want to protect their profit margins. Physician, heal thyself for cryining out loud.
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Anthony Look
March 17, 2010 1:59 AM
Treason is something like outing a CIA agent, not this silly stuff.
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chriss1519
March 17, 2010 2:46 AM
I've supported trying Pelosi for treason, ever since she took impeachment off the table.
Of course, I would like to request a package deal, where we can get everyone from both Bush/Cheney administrations, and most Senators and a good deal of underlings and many major newspaper editors, heads of media conglomerates, Blackwater-Xe execs & personnel, everyone down the janitors on Wall Street, etc.
And now, unfortunately, Barack Obama.
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Jormungand
March 17, 2010 4:17 AM
The level of mental illness is truly astonishing.
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MikeFromOhio
March 17, 2010 11:14 AM
As to the Doctor Status of Dr. Joe Lisanti, he is a D.O. He is allowed to refer to himself as a physician and can write prescriptions. Some DO's refer to themselves as osteopath's as opposed to MD's who are allopaths. DO programs tend to draw slightly less qualified candidates but the quality of their care is not generally disparaged. They do have a tendency to be overrepresented in the quackery field, and the patron saint of osteopathic medicine had some very strange ideas about medical care. Having some experience with medical personnel and their class consciousness (among professionals at all degree levels), I would opine that this guy feels that he is just as good as a real Physician and is certain that he is mistreated and disrespected by his colleagues. He works in a very small hospital in rural Ohio. I think he is probably suffering from a serious case of little man/little diploma/the world is f-ing with me disease, and this type of tea-bagger activity makes him feel important.
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Leftflank
March 17, 2010 11:39 AM
How 'bout palling around with the Bin Ladens', is that teasonous enough for you?
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