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Texas Rep. Neugebauer: 'I Exclaimed The Phrase 'It's A Baby Killer''
Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-TX)
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Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-TX) has come forward and admitted that he was the one who yelled "baby killer" during the House debate on the health care bill last night.
In his statement, Neugeubauer said that he meant to refer to the bill as "a baby killer," not Stupak himself. That said, he has apologized to Stupak.
Neugebauer was first elected to Congress in a spring 2003 special election, after having previously worked in real estate and served on the Lubbock city council. In 2004, after the controversial mid-decade redistricting engineered by Tom DeLay, Neugebauer defeated long-time Blue Dog Democratic Rep. Charlie Stenholm by 58%-40% in a reconfigured district.
It should be noted that in addition to the "baby killer" outburst, Neugebauer is also a sponsor of the so-called "Birther Bill," introduced by Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), to require presidential candidates "to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
Neugebauer's district is solidly Republican, having voted 72%-27% for John McCain in 2008, and 77%-22% for George W. Bush in 2004. Neugebauer was re-elected with 72% of the vote in 2008.
NEUGEBAUER STATEMENT ON HEALTH CARE FLOOR DEBATE
"Last night was the climax of weeks and months of debate on a health care bill that my constituents fear and do not support. In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase 'it's a baby killer' in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership. While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn, I deeply regret that my actions were mistakenly interpreted as a direct reference to Congressman Stupak himself.
"I have apologized to Mr. Stupak and also apologize to my colleagues for the manner in which I expressed my disappointment about the bill. The House Chamber is a place of decorum and respect. The timing and tone of my comment last night was inappropriate."
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mousethief
March 22, 2010 2:02 PM
It's amazing how they keep forgetting where they are when this crap flies out of their mouths.
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DownriverDem
March 22, 2010 2:49 PM in reply to mousethief
Look at his district. They are as nuts as he is.
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slb
March 22, 2010 3:02 PM in reply to DownriverDem
How does that song go?
"I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas, in my rear-view mirror."
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dem4life
March 22, 2010 4:22 PM in reply to DownriverDem
another red face pig....are they all ugly and pink
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CityGuy
March 23, 2010 9:24 AM in reply to dem4life
But I'm sure that comment was nothing personal against the congressman.... lol
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 6:22 PM in reply to DownriverDem
Note the following:
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the so-called "Birther Bill," introduced by Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), to require presidential candidates "to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
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It can't be ignorance that explains this ELECTED Congressman's position: as does EVERY candidate for public office, HE had to prove his bona fides as to citizenship and age BEFORE his name could be put on the ballot.
Nor has elections law ever been DIFFERENT on that point. Constitutional provisions are implemenmted by means of statute; and certainly the citizenship and age requirements are implemented in such law, along with means to PROVE those requirement IN ORDER to be a candidate.
In short: President Obama not only had to prove his citizenship and age met the pre-existing requirements, he had to do so in each of all 50 states before his name could be put on the ballot.
So the only "reason" behind that initiative is racists' effort to delegitimize by exploiting citizens' ignorance on the point.
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jonaspatel
March 22, 2010 4:41 PM in reply to mousethief
Well, at least he makes a good case FOR abortion
http://www.jdmcoinc.com/
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GTFOOH
March 22, 2010 6:15 PM in reply to mousethief
What amazes me, is Boehner had a meeting with all Republican members to remind them to maintain decorum during the debate. That was before he went on his HELL NO tirade!
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 6:28 PM in reply to GTFOOH
That's the Repubican't definition of the word "decorum".
"Decorum" essentially means, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." But they weren't in Rome, so . . .
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JEP07
March 22, 2010 7:41 PM in reply to JNagarya
"After I decorum, you can decorum too."
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JEP07
March 22, 2010 7:41 PM in reply to JEP07
"decorum before they decor you"
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WhoDatDaddy
March 22, 2010 6:44 PM in reply to mousethief
I knew within minuites Texas Republican Rep.Randy Neugebauer was the mysterious lawmaker who shouted “baby killer”. It was shouted out in open debate heard by millions, the cowards on the Republican side "didn't hear anything" they covered up for one of their own, I went on the computer immediately and posted a video which led to his confession.(Baby killer-Congressman will come clean-or will) check it out, I knew his voice, he still didn't come clean, at 8:00 AM est I posted a second video (BABY KILLER SCREAM-Texas Republican Rep. Randy Neugebauer)he finally came clean, I did "Mess With Texas"-get your act together Lawmakers there is no room for lies,cover-up-Remember Watergate !
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mans_best_friend
March 22, 2010 2:02 PM
If Republicans are concerned he's making them look bad, they needn't worry.
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FreeRider
March 22, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
That mofo is still lying. He didn't say "it's a baby killer." He said "baby killer." Scumbag.
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LarryMo
March 22, 2010 6:05 PM in reply to FreeRider
Of COURSE he's lying...he is a GOP weasel.
I love the way they take ownership of their mistakes - by lying about what they said or meant.
Typical for the party of Delay, Armey, Cheney and Vice President George W. Bush.
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Nom de Plume
March 22, 2010 7:36 PM in reply to FreeRider
True. But the fact is, which ever he said he was lying.
The bill is NOT a "baby killer." In no way does the bill reverse the Hyde amendment. Obama's executive order was redundant to the Hyde amendment.
The GOP is playing politics banking on the belief that its supporters are ignorant. For many, seems to be working.
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4akinderworld
March 22, 2010 2:03 PM
Well, thanks for manning up, Randy. HOWEVER... your verbal assault on the democratically elected bill just points up the characteristic ignorance from the right about the fact that babies don't quit being babies after birth. What about protecting the parents of infants who are catastrophically ill?
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loria
March 22, 2010 4:27 PM in reply to 4akinderworld
What about immediately ending the ability of insurance companies to deny coverage to children because of a pre-existing condition? That takes effect right away. Do they care about children who have been born or does their concern for children end at birth? How many children need treatment and can't get insurance?
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Verra
March 22, 2010 5:01 PM in reply to 4akinderworld
is that the only one you are concerned with...? how about the child that is not born yet, does he have any rights, in your opinion...?
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LarryMo
March 22, 2010 6:09 PM in reply to Verra
Constitutional rights for zygotes, or revolution!!
What next...sperm?
The lying piece of Texan this thread discusses looks jizzed-out.
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 6:16 PM in reply to Verra
No, becuase a zygote is not a "Child" -- either in science or law.
Moreover, there has NEVER been a society which viewed a non-viable fetus as of greater importance than the life of the pregnant woman.
Nor does the "bible" prohibit abortion"; it in fact supports it until "quickening" -- that is, until the fetus "kicks".
The world of conflicting rights does not apply in this instance. And emotion as substitute for thought will not prevail.
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JEP07
March 22, 2010 7:48 PM in reply to JNagarya
"quickening"
sentience; is it a spark or a flow?
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CranialRectalLoopback
March 22, 2010 10:32 PM in reply to JEP07
Neither spark nor flow. With Republicans it is definitely a flaw.
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CranialRectalLoopback
March 22, 2010 7:07 PM in reply to Verra
No more than my skin cell, which has a full complement of chromosomes and will in the very near future be able to be brought to full term. And if you are truly consistent, then you also believe that in vitro fertilization is abortion, because for every successful implant, there are several that terminate in the dish.
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agio
March 22, 2010 2:04 PM
The only babies this bill will kill are the ones in Congress sitting on the Republican side of the aisle. (Metaphorically speaking.)
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bluestatedon
March 22, 2010 2:04 PM
I don't believe him for one second as far as what he really said, but at least he apologized for the disruption. Most GOPers wouldn't have done that much.
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 6:31 PM in reply to bluestatedon
He didn't apologize. He used the fake apology to REPEAT his smear.
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Steve LaBonne
March 22, 2010 2:04 PM
These dirtbags can't tell the truth even when they're apologizing. Unbelievable.
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geofu54
March 22, 2010 2:10 PM in reply to Steve LaBonne
Right. It's just that he needed such a long time before he came up with that crappy excuse.
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sherifffruitfly
March 22, 2010 3:08 PM in reply to Steve LaBonne
yup.
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Official A
March 22, 2010 2:05 PM
"The timing and tone of my comment last night was inappropriate."
The kindest thing one could say of this apology is that subject/verb agreement fails.
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Brownbagger
March 22, 2010 2:17 PM in reply to Official A
I'm wondering what timing and tone would have been appropriate?
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acanuck
March 22, 2010 2:23 PM in reply to Brownbagger
And by implication, the content was just fine and dandy. Jerk.
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Lucieann
March 22, 2010 2:30 PM in reply to Brownbagger
robably just keeping his mouth shut!
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Brownbagger
March 22, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to Lucieann
Rank roo, Scooby. ;-)
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dem4life
March 22, 2010 4:23 PM in reply to Brownbagger
klansmen
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biged242
March 22, 2010 2:05 PM
Wide stance, much?
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rbeats
March 22, 2010 2:05 PM
He has those same Jesus controls my mind eyes.
WTF, these thugs should not be allowed to come withing 10 miles of the Capitol.
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 2:06 PM
Yes, because decorum is synonymous with Republican politics. He has a face that begs punching.
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bibimimi
March 22, 2010 2:50 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Neugebauer for Smirkmaster General.
A bigger pinker eff-you face would be tough to find.
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human
March 22, 2010 2:08 PM
I give Stupak credit in the end for being a more true "pro-lifer" than any of these Repub wingnuts. His speech at the end last night pretty much redeemed himself--because he described "pro-life" as not just protecting the unborn, but the health and lives of all people from birth until death.
The Repubs proved that it's all just politics to them.
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ondioline
March 22, 2010 2:13 PM in reply to human
I agree with you. It's going to make the check that I was planning to write to his primary challenger just a little more difficult... So I think I'll just do it over the web instead. How much do "Forever" stamps currently cost? I'll include that in my donation...
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Official A
March 22, 2010 2:08 PM
Methinks he has a dead baby hidden in that prodigious wattle.
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crazycarnypoptart
March 22, 2010 2:09 PM
Finally the republican of my district made a political snafu. He is so hard core right wing but usually stays under the radar. Now not only will ivote for him but hopefully others will as well. Its kind of tough though because his district is bible belt conservative.
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acanuck
March 22, 2010 2:27 PM in reply to crazycarnypoptart
You're missing a NOT there.
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DownriverDem
March 22, 2010 2:53 PM in reply to crazycarnypoptart
Why would you ever vote for such an ignorant fool? The bill contains no money for abortions. What a red herring the GOP tried to throw out.
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:06 PM in reply to DownriverDem
Well, what ANOTHER red herring.
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 6:44 PM in reply to RKT
Read teh Hyde Amendment. It prohibtis the use of Federal funds for abortion IN ALL INSTANCES. That means it is superfluous to ALSO include that prohibition in every damned statute.
On top of which, that Amendment/language violates separation of church adn state because the opposition to abortion is SOLELY "RELIGIOUS". Even though that "religion" is FOR the death of all those whose contracts with the insurance monopoly are breached by that monopoly.
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hgorwellian
March 22, 2010 2:09 PM
lol, what total baloney. i had narrowed it down to 5 possible people about an hour ago on another thread ( http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/gohmert-i-didnt-call-stupak-baby-killer.php ), so i am sure others had figured out it was him already, so he had to come clean
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bvd
March 22, 2010 2:09 PM
Right, and when I yell "lousy scumbag" in his presence I'm not actually calling him that but merely decrying the poor quality of birth control his mother used.
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LarryMo
March 22, 2010 6:12 PM in reply to bvd
d'oh.
Would that be his mother, the purported sex for money crack whore?
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teemunney
March 22, 2010 2:10 PM
Well, now that I know he's a birther, I guess I couldn't have expected anything intelligent from the guy: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/07/birther-certificate/
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stillidealistic
March 22, 2010 2:55 PM in reply to teemunney
Dude! Where've you been? I'm STILL waiting!
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osage
March 22, 2010 2:10 PM
TODAY’S REPUBLICANS ARE AMERICA'S ENEMY WITHIN
Republicans ARE practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and anti-democracy OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.
Republicans AREN'T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they're using inflammatory lies and accusations as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.
Republicans ARE preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.
Republicans ARE trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from repairing the damage caused during a Republican presidency that was irresponsibly enabled by Republican Senators and Representatives.
Republicans ARE offering ridiculous arguments meant solely to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They'd rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance.
Republicans AREN'T the LOYAL OPPOSITION; they ARE the ENEMY WITHIN whose mercenary personal priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that duplicity and betrayal are their preferred modus operandi.
It's one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it's another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America's government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the greed, fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican anti-government corporatism and anti-Christian faux theocracies that are poisoning and crippling American society.
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hollywood
March 22, 2010 2:32 PM in reply to osage
Excellent analysis. The rethuglicans really are the enemy of democracy and the enemy of progress. On every issue they are as unAmerican as they can possibly be. In Texas a recent poll said that fully half of all rethuglicans would support a move to leave the United States. Their governor has thrown around the secession talk to bolster his standing with the rethuglican base and he won his rethuglican primary. For all the talk about country first and who are the real patriots and real Americans why the FUGGING HELL DON'T SOME MSM FOLKS GIVE SOME PUBLICITY TO THE FACT THAT HALF OF TEXAS REPUBLICANS ARE COMPLETE TRAITORS TO THEIR COUTNRY? If half of Democrats in California were openly in favor of leaving the United States I think we would all be made aware of it don't you?
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Cath
March 22, 2010 3:23 PM in reply to hollywood
Hollywood -- Spot on. If the same crap came from Californians, I would actually fear for our safety.
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AbqMike
March 22, 2010 2:53 PM in reply to osage
Well said, Osage!!!
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Cath
March 22, 2010 3:21 PM in reply to osage
Bravo Osage!
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Trochilus
March 25, 2010 2:29 PM in reply to osage
Osage,
So, the First Amendment AND the Speech & Debate Clause be damned, huh?
That appears to be your position, as well, by the way, as the position of the House Whip, Rep. Clyburn (D-SC), who made the following utterly egregious comment about ObamaCare protesters and Members of Congress who either fail to denounce them, or who "support" them in any way from the House floor.
Here is Congressman Clyburn on Hardball talking about opposition protesters from the right:
"This stuff is beyond the pale. And they need to stop this because, I can tell you, I’ve seen how these things escalate. People out there in the streets get their signals, or what they think are their signals, from the people in positions like we hold.
"And so if we don’t disown that and go get our people to move beyond that, if we participate in it, either from the balcony or on the floor of the House, you are aiding and abetting this kind of, terrorism, really."
Well, maybe he goes just a wee bit beyond your claim of "seditious demagoguery" (whatever that is) by actually alleging that it is now actual terrorism!
Hey, better hurry up and think about whether you want to agree with him, now that he has upped the ante!
But as for your risible claims re: demagoguery, did you happen to speak up when Democrats were falsely accusing Republicans of intentionally causing the deaths of thousands upon thousands of American citizens every year for failing to pass the Democrat healthcare plan?
No? Why not? Now that the bill has passed, it looks like a few other are "coming clean" over having mouthed such poisonous rhetoric.
For example, Ruth Marcus (in the Washington Post) concedes that studies indeed conflict, and that, for example:
"a study that same year by Richard Kronick, a former health-care adviser to President Bill Clinton, found 'little evidence to suggest that extending insurance coverage to all adults would have a large effect on the number of deaths in the United States.'" (link in original)
Fancy that. So the wild and endlessly repeated claims of 18,000 deaths per year were likely just like YOU say . . . seditious demagoguery?
Ruth Marcus plays Emily Litella! "Never mind!"
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Trochilus
March 25, 2010 2:33 PM in reply to Trochilus
And here she is, Ruth Marcus, aka, Emily Litella.
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GTFOOH
March 22, 2010 2:13 PM
Ahhhhh, Texas. They do grow um classy down there!
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concerned parent
March 22, 2010 2:25 PM in reply to GTFOOH
Texas, proof that evolution goes in both directions.
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twirling fartknocker
March 22, 2010 2:14 PM
Fetuses yes! Post-birth children no!
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twirling fartknocker
March 22, 2010 2:15 PM
How long 'til he fesses up to yelling the N-word and the F-word outside of Congress??
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LarsThorwald
March 22, 2010 2:15 PM
I don't think it's any classier, but I do think it's a much different situation than Wilson crying "YOU LIE!" during the State of the Union. Tensions were high on the House floor last night, and it was members of the House with members of the House coming off the heels of a really hot night of debate and stress. So one guy out of 435 yells babykiller! and then apologizes. Fuck it, I say let it go.
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CityGuy
March 22, 2010 2:24 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
I do understand where you are coming from Lars. However, it's outbursts such as his that encourage the extremists in our midst. The far right is currently losing control of the agenda, and the power, in America. This makes for extra concern as their fellow travelers (birthers, tea-partiers, anti-abortion extremists) become more desperate. Ill-considered remarks such as his are not helpful.
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bibimimi
March 22, 2010 2:56 PM in reply to CityGuy
Cheney sullied the decorum of the chamber at Leahy's expense during his reign. These big pink men therefore think back-biting and name-calling is a show of strength.
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slb
March 22, 2010 3:10 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
It's because emotions run high in high-stakes political debates that the House has rules of decorum that include not making ad hominem attacks against other memebers on the floor. I don't want to crucify the guy for it, and I don't know that I would even want to go as far as a formal censure vote, but it wouldn't hurt to have him beaten up in the press for a day or two. There needs to be a price paid for this sort of thing.
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slb
March 22, 2010 3:11 PM in reply to slb
Grrrr. Make that "members." My fingers need discipline.
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JNagarya
March 22, 2010 6:53 PM in reply to slb
In addition: he DIDN'T have the floor when he yelled his insult, so was not authorized under the rules to say ANYTHING from his SEAT DURING the speech of another member.
This is the real test: how would he react if the situation were reversed: HE name-called while LEGITIMATELY speaking?
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slb
March 23, 2010 3:20 AM in reply to JNagarya
Good point -- he didn't have the floor. And look how they went after Anthony Weiner when he dared to say (when he did have the floor) that the Republican Party was a fully owned subsidiary of the insurance industry...
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JNagarya
March 23, 2010 4:00 AM in reply to slb
Christ, they couldn't even handle it when Congressman Markey said it was the Party of Hope versus the Party of Nope.
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lede3957
March 22, 2010 4:31 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
Sorry, I disagree. It our elected officials do not/cannot demonstrate respect for each other while in the official government building, how can we teach our children to respect our government? Also, if you recall, the MD who was shot and killed while in church had previously been called baby killer by O'reilly. There are plenty of crazies who will react to those words.
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Nowukkers
March 22, 2010 4:36 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
I think it was a calculated move. He knows that his district will love him for it - just like Wilson. This was pre-meditated - not heat-of-the-moment.
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LarryMo
March 22, 2010 6:16 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
In light of today's "apology", I expect that Joe Wilson will re-explain his temper tantrum.
"I simply referred to my favorite month of the year. No insult to the other months was intended."
This is per GOP 101, "Ethics? Meh!"
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Lucieann
March 22, 2010 2:16 PM
If these Repubs keep forgetting where they are when they scream and taunt from their "peanut gallery" maybe they shouldn't be there. We can remind them about a great many things come November.....like elections have consequences.
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lovethesinner
March 22, 2010 2:17 PM
Bullshit. He didn't say "IT'S a baby-killer". When has anyone, anywhere used "baby-killer" to describe a thing? Never.
It's always hurled at a person. Like a bullet. (though, usually just before).
Shame on Rep. Neugebauer for using the phrase, shame on him for hiding, then even more shame on him for coming out only to try and deflect the criticism he and his party deserve.
Yes, America, this is your modern Republican congressman: old, white, wrong, weak, and wimpy.
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lousgirl84
March 22, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to lovethesinner
And don't forget a RACIST!!!
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JEP07
March 22, 2010 8:06 PM in reply to lousgirl84
I liked that "pink" label someone tossed out earlier. So many of them really fit that description.
Pinkish white.
Like Cornyn and so many other Texans, you'd think they'd get out in the sun now and then. Maybe it hurts.
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JNagarya
March 23, 2010 4:18 AM in reply to JEP07
Pink is a color. These'uns are "coloreds".
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athenian stranger
March 22, 2010 2:17 PM
Sounds to me pretty clearly like "this is a baby killer." Which would be the same as "baby killer" in that it could apply to the man or the bill. "It's a baby killer" would be different in that. I wouldn't have doubted that his sentiment was towards the bill until I found out he's an unreconstructed birther. Shameful moron, no matter how you slice it.
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hgorwellian
March 22, 2010 2:18 PM
@LarsThor: no doubt this is less egregious than the "you lie" fiasco, but its still way out of line. but if someone can score points by pointing out how many babies have really died due to policies Neugebauer supports, that's fine with me.
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Joe Monster
March 22, 2010 2:19 PM
Fuck 'im. He lost.
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traitorjoe
March 22, 2010 2:19 PM
Sad thing is his outburst makes him more a hero in his home state. Rick Perry will probably give him a "Texas Freedom of Honor" medallion.
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enough already
March 23, 2010 1:48 AM in reply to traitorjoe
he should
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topsight
March 22, 2010 2:21 PM
Hmmm...
"You Lie!"
Drop the "N" word.
Rag on Barney Frank.
"Baby Killer!"
Are we picking up a Republican trend here, or is that not being fair and balanced? (and these ae the guys who preach FISCAL disciplin!)
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chitowner
March 22, 2010 2:22 PM
Texas grows narrow-minded hypocrites better than anywhere.
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:11 PM in reply to chitowner
But how did so many of them get herded into that one state? And why would anyone else live there? (Or do they?)
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JNagarya
March 23, 2010 4:21 AM in reply to chitowner
Bizarre, ain't it? Bigger the state, narrower the mind.
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Barry Champlain
March 22, 2010 2:22 PM
Where the fuck did... "IT'S A"... "baby killer" come from?
He regrets if anyone thought he meant Stupak?!?
How voluntarily gullible do these people expect us to be?
FYI: MSM giving that to him. Fuckers, all of them.
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bluesplashy
March 22, 2010 5:52 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
Yeah, you are right. F'ing MSM will interview him but not a one will say a flipping peep about how THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THAT FEDERAL FUNDS WILL BE USED TO FUND ABORTIONS AND THERE NEVER F;ING WAS. And yes I meant to yell.
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Chesire111
March 22, 2010 2:22 PM
Wow...I guess this answers the question of what the baby would look like if Dick Cheney and Phil Gramm had an illegitimate love child together.
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traitorjoe
March 22, 2010 2:24 PM in reply to Chesire111
And it was inbred with Karl Rove.
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Chesire111
March 22, 2010 2:25 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Karl would be his Godfather.
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traitorjoe
March 22, 2010 2:28 PM in reply to Chesire111
and boyfriend.
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Chesire111
March 22, 2010 2:34 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Now that would just be wrong - they'm's God-fearing folks!
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CityGuy
March 22, 2010 2:28 PM in reply to traitorjoe
**Shudders** Now THAT would be an illegal alien! (Someone call Sigourney Weaver!)
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Zell
March 22, 2010 2:23 PM
Sorry to reuse my joke from an earlier thread, but it's even more appropriate now than it was then:
"I did not say 'baby killer'. I said 'pay be griller'."
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destor23
March 22, 2010 2:24 PM
Representative Neugebauer is also famous for admitting "I was saying Boooo-urns" in that Simpsons episode.
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Lucieann
March 22, 2010 2:27 PM
An old white-southern guy from Texas! Why am I not surprised!!
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eggroll
March 22, 2010 2:27 PM
If that's what he shouts in the House, I wonder what he shouts at Church?
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Peter Principle
March 22, 2010 2:31 PM in reply to eggroll
If that's what he shouts in the House, I wonder what he shouts at Church?
Do me again, Ma!
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Cal Gal
March 22, 2010 2:47 PM in reply to Peter Principle
Probably all kinds of incomprehensible stuff in tongues.
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JNagarya
March 23, 2010 4:24 AM in reply to Cal Gal
Double talk in forked tongues.
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traitorjoe
March 22, 2010 2:28 PM
Quit stereotyping these old racist white guys from Texas as old racist white guys from Texas.
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Peter Principle
March 22, 2010 2:30 PM
Similarly, I would like to apologize Rep. Neugebauer. When I said that Lubbock is a city of cretinous, in-bred hillbillies, who regularly elect Tom DeLay's servile asshole lickers to the House of Representatives, I certainly never intended for my comments to reflect personally on Rep. Neugabauer.
Words cannot express how sorry I am for any misunderstanding my comments may have caused.
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Cal Gal
March 22, 2010 2:49 PM in reply to Peter Principle
You blew the end of your apology.
You should have said, "I'm sorry if anyone in Lubbock was offended by my observation."
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Joe Wood
March 22, 2010 2:32 PM
Anyone who listens to the numerous videos online can clearly hear that he said, "Baby Killer." There is no audible hint of "It's a.." He is simply wimping out from his true statement.
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JakeM
March 22, 2010 2:32 PM
I'm originally from Lubbock, and this guy was my Sunday School teacher as a kid.
Keep it class, Randy. Keep it classy.
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:16 PM in reply to JakeM
Have you recovered?
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Rich in NJ
March 22, 2010 2:32 PM
Liar.
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Cal Gal
March 22, 2010 2:34 PM
"he meant to refer to the bill as "a baby killer," not Stupak himself"
Oh, that's OK then.
It was just a coincidence he shouted it while Stupak was speaking, I guess.
Time to censure these idiots for breaking the rules of the House. Get to it, Nancy.
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MsMolly
March 22, 2010 2:37 PM
Um, weren't you Texas folks going to secede? What's taking you so long?
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bibimimi
March 22, 2010 2:58 PM in reply to MsMolly
They haven't hoarded enough toilet paper yet.
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Joekuh
March 22, 2010 3:38 PM in reply to bibimimi
or light bulbs.
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bluesplashy
March 22, 2010 6:02 PM in reply to bibimimi
LOL!
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AJM
March 22, 2010 2:39 PM
It's beginning to dawn on some of the Republicans that their behavior is unacceptable. Even Rep. Neuegebauer realized that he ought to offer an apology.
My guess is that it is beginning to dawn on some of their voters as well.
I'd be more inclined to forgive him if he hadn't shown himself perfectly willing to let born children die.
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ArmChairPol
March 22, 2010 2:39 PM
Why are we wasting so much time on this guy when he's not going to be in the House very long anyways? Texas is going to sucede right?????
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itsallaboutthemoney
March 22, 2010 2:40 PM
The contributions from the right-whackos should be pouring in about now.
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M Miller
March 22, 2010 2:43 PM
Sounds like there was almost a chant in the background of "baby killer".
I grabbed the vid and boosted the audio 500%, ran a hard-limiter on it in Adobe audition with a top of -0.5 and a boost of 20dB. You'll need the DivX codec to watch this.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwwmjinkiqm
(Stupak.avi - 4.27 MB)
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slb
March 22, 2010 3:20 PM in reply to M Miller
That was my impression, too, just from the raw video -- that it wasn't just one guy saying "baby killer," it was several, though I only heard both words as a phrase from that one voice.
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Kenneth W. Regan
March 23, 2010 12:04 AM in reply to M Miller
Excellent work on the mix. However, at 17 seconds in your Stupak.avi, I do hear the words "It's a". Then a stray sound (like a hiccup), then at 18 sec, "baby killer". They strike me as the same voice.
This agrees with my impression from the un-enhanced version at "Crooks & Liars" (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/baby-killer-shouted-stupak-during-health-c), which is the clearest other one I've found. The remark comes at 1:45 on that video. Someone in comments there affirms hearing the "it's a".
There also one can two subsequent repetitions of "baby killer". The first is faint, and strikes me as being preceded by buzz of the form "what was that?" The second is louder even than the original---but that could be someone calling it out to a person further off, or who was nearer the camera. I do not believe there was a chorus of the term---else it would have been reported as such.
Bottom line: I believe there is positive evidence that Rep. Neugebauer's explanation is truthful, in contrast to other assertions in comments here.
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Vincent F
March 22, 2010 2:43 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, the next President of the Republic of Texas!
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:20 PM in reply to Vincent F
Heck, I say let them secede. They won't have a military, so we simply immediately conquer them and turn them into a territory. Then we tax them but don't let them vote. I don't think anyone there has really thought this secession thing through.
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Backcountry
March 22, 2010 4:03 PM in reply to RKT
Yeah. I'd love to see the U.S. military blast the shit out of Texas and leave the state in economic ruin and under reconstruction, the way the Republicans did last time in 1865. Maybe we could make that status permanent this time.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 5:46 PM in reply to RKT
we do have a military wre texas
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Backcountry
March 22, 2010 7:21 PM in reply to enough already
And a fine example of the Texas educational system, too, I might add.
Whatever Texas has won't stand up for 30 minutes against the full force of the U.S. military. Talk about shock and awe, baby! We'll make Texas look like Iraq.
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bibimimi
March 22, 2010 2:43 PM
You, sir, are an idiot.
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hepular
March 22, 2010 2:47 PM
Yet another reason why I lurv (to send annoying letters) to the elected congressperson of my district, Randy Naugahyde.
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Old-Boh
March 22, 2010 2:50 PM
These guys are like little boys who fart in church to get attention. Why does the media reward them with attention? I know Wolfie has no sense of proportion, but this blog too?
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oleeb
March 22, 2010 2:50 PM
Does anyone really care about the intramural squabbles of the right to lifer wackos like this guy and Stupak? This is a nonissue. Who cares?
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scottrichardson
March 22, 2010 2:53 PM
As in, people don't kill people. Pieces of paper do.
100% asshole.
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Winston Smith
March 22, 2010 2:54 PM
These things seems to be staged pretty well, in part to validate the lack of civility in public debate that is happening around the country. The disruptive people at the town hall meetings served a purpose, they made sure no one left the hall educated, just pissed off and/or scared. These antics validate that kind of behavior by painting a picture that yelling and screaming now pass for public discourse.
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Rick Jones
March 22, 2010 3:00 PM in reply to Winston Smith
And you really need to yell and scream when the other guy is starting to make a rational, reasonable, coherent point based on fact. Can't let anyone hear that kind of thing. Conservative TV and radio hosts, pundits, commentators do it all the time.
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J. Nobles
March 22, 2010 2:55 PM
Going back, it sounds like Neugebauer says, "This is a baby killer," not "It's a baby killer." Still attributable to just the bill, though.
However, it's still a flamebait smear on the House floor. I'd like for him to explain how the charge applies only to the bill and not to those who voted for it.
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gobydoc
March 22, 2010 3:56 PM in reply to J. Nobles
Seems to me it doesn't make a difference if was intended for Stupak or it was about the bill. It is still an outright fabrication that was used to deceptively demonize the bill as a means of generating fear of and opposition to the bill. Why is the press not focussing on the lack of veracity in the comment, rather than the target of the statement. Again, by focussing on the bluster, the press does not provide the public with the key point, which is that it was an incorrect and therefore inflammatory statement regardless...
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TimFromLA
March 22, 2010 2:58 PM
Baby Killer? Talk about Baby Killer:
Date Bill Title Vote Outcome
01/14/2009 CHIP Reauthorization Act of 2009
HR 2 N Bill Passed - House
(289 - 139)
09/26/2008 Renewable Energy Credits and Other Business and Individual Credits
HR 7060 N Bill Passed - House
(257 - 166)
01/23/2008 Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (CHIP)
HR 3963 N Veto Override Failed - House
(260 - 152)
11/15/2007 Appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
HR 3043 N Veto Override Failed - House
(277 - 141)
11/14/2007 Head Start Act of 2007
HR 1429 N Conference Report Adopted - House
(381 - 36)
11/08/2007 Appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
HR 3043 N Concurrence Vote Passed - House
(274 - 141)
10/25/2007 Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (CHIP)
HR 3963 N Bill Passed - House
(265 - 142)
10/18/2007 State Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) Reauthorization
HR 976 N Veto Override Failed - House
(273 - 156)
09/25/2007 State Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) Reauthorization
HR 976 N Concurrence Vote Passed - House
(265 - 159)
08/01/2007 State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization
HR 3162 N Bill Passed - House
(225 - 204)
07/19/2007 Appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
HR 3043
He's killing babies!
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slb
March 22, 2010 2:59 PM
This guy reminds me of Hans von Spakovsky: it's not too hard to imagine him in an SS uniform.
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Shari423
March 22, 2010 3:03 PM
Well now! It's easy to see where all of those tea party folks get their manners. BTW, I watched the entire so-called "debate" and it occurred to me how much time these representatives waste. For crying out loud, if I wasted that much time at work I wouldn't have a job anymore. A lot of yakking and soundbites of things we've heard for the last year. The most exciting part was when Stupak stood up and denounced the republican abortion amendment. It will be interesting to see what happens from this point forward.
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dougom
March 22, 2010 3:03 PM
Lubbock is way up there in Northern Texas, almost in the panhandle. It's farming country, and much closer in both landscape and spirit to the Plains states than to, I dunno, Weird Austin or some such. Think of it as being more like Oklahoma--you know, the place where Tom Coborn and Jim "Climate change is a hoax!" Inhofe come from.
Not all Texans are right-wing loons. I promise. Remember: a state that gives you Stevie Ray Vaughn and Janis Joplin can't be all bad, right? (SRV has a statue in Austin.)
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human
March 22, 2010 3:14 PM in reply to dougom
I'm trying to figure out a way we can keep Austin, and its incredible music scene, and let the rest of the state secede.
If they can pass this reform bill, anything is possible!
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:25 PM in reply to dougom
I'm with human. I don't think we can legitimately think of Austin as part of Texas -- just an island of sanity surrounded by Texas.
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slb
March 22, 2010 3:25 PM in reply to dougom
Remember: a state that gives you Stevie Ray Vaughn and Janis Joplin can't be all bad, right?
Not to mention Molly Ivins and Jim Hightower!
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traitorjoe
March 22, 2010 3:04 PM
Hans von Spanky? I wouldn't let Hans or Randy around young boys.
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jsdc007
March 22, 2010 3:06 PM
Clearly this dimwit Republican needs lessons from Catholic nuns about this bill and how it won't kill any babies.
I doubt if this POS would listen, given that he's from Texas, is a Republican and is a bonafide idiot.
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kash79
March 22, 2010 3:08 PM
Congratulations to Pr.Obama, Sp.Pelosi and the Democrats. Nancy is gold-dust in Washington and republicans, I don't think will ever again willingly appear with Obama in the same news frame on national TV.
No one knowns what will happen to the democratic majority in November, but it would have been a political suicide for the party and the president, in case this had failed.
Good to comeback here for the first time after the night of the MA Sen loss and make a comment on such a historical triumph for the country and for the Obama legacy.
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know_1_special2000
March 22, 2010 3:09 PM
By the way if anybody out there sees Sarah Palin, just mention to her that that "Hopey Changey" thing she was asking about is going well. Her grandson can have medical care now.
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ibsteve2u
March 22, 2010 3:10 PM
Thinking Texas really needs to start getting serious about checking their groundwater for the byproducts of petroleum harvesting and refining.
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:27 PM in reply to ibsteve2u
Well, the problem there is you have to find some thinking Texans.
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dougom
March 23, 2010 3:18 AM in reply to RKT
Yo! Scroll up! We exist!
Yeesh, the abuse we have to take sometimes . . .
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rawresolve
March 22, 2010 3:11 PM
That's what they called George tiller of Fox "news" until he was murdered in his church in Wichita (where I live). Right wing Jesus must be so proud.
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Verra
March 22, 2010 4:59 PM in reply to rawresolve
and what would you know about Jesus...?
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rawresolve
March 22, 2010 3:11 PM
That's what they called George tiller on Fox "news" until he was murdered in his church in Wichita (where I live). Right wing Jesus must be so proud.
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latichever
March 22, 2010 3:12 PM
As a former 60s era radical, I can't believe I want to join the National Guard--although I'm way too old--to be in a position to suppress any right-wing insurrection.
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InmanRoshi
March 22, 2010 3:18 PM
Randy Neugebaeur's accepted nearly $5 billion dollars in federal government handouts from USDA farm subsidies from 1995-2006, making them the 8th highest in the US.
http://farm.ewg.org/farm/progdetail.php?fips=00000&progcode=total&page=district
These people know a thing or two about welfare handouts.
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PAvoter
March 22, 2010 3:22 PM
What a surprise. Another Southern White Republican who ignores the rules of decorum. So much for the genteel Southern approach. I wonder if it is something in the water, or something they are drinking that causes old White Republicans to shout out nonsense.
I guess the tens of thousands who die every year due to lack of insurance includes no babies.
Maybe this Country needs a Constitutional Amendment to protect this nation against such persons.
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hollyh
March 22, 2010 3:23 PM
They're mostly pretty backwards in the south and especially in TX. Why is it a sin to have an abortion in the first trimester when the embryo that will become human has the same no. of cells as your average bull frog? Why is it not a sin to not allow these children to receive medical care if their parents have no health insurance? Why is it not a sin to send 19-21-year-old babies off to an unnecessary and illegal war to certain death? Republican motto should be love the fetus, hate the child.
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RKT
March 22, 2010 3:30 PM in reply to hollyh
Because that's the way Jesus wanted it.
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falcngnzx22
March 22, 2010 3:25 PM
With lubed-up (thank Texas for that) assholes like most of you on here, it is NO WONDER that the Country is collapsing into a large-scale model of Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, and any other democrat-run crapholes.
You can get back to your fudge-packing now...
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hollywood
March 22, 2010 6:29 PM in reply to falcngnzx22
Fantasize about gay sex much falcngnzx22 ??? Glad to see you are not ashamed of it! This is 2010 after all and no one cares anymore.
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MsBitter
March 22, 2010 3:28 PM
The conservathug mean seeps high and low. Case in point:
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/secret-service-probing-conservative-bloggers-call-obama-assassination/
Let's hope the Secret Service really is on the case.
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itsallaboutthemoney
March 22, 2010 3:34 PM
Please don't feed the trolls! You might get too close and they would stupid you.
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M.L.H.
March 22, 2010 3:35 PM
Question for any German speakers out there. "Bauer" is farmer and also translates as "rude person", which I suppose makes it like "yokel" or "hick" in English. Is Neugebauer a cognate of bauer, and if so, what would be a good translation?
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Cornelius
March 22, 2010 3:40 PM
Might be a good idea to keep Rep Neugebauer @ Friends around till November. Their rants may be ugly but their party is completely leaderless and solidly (after last night) established as the Party of No. The narrative couldn't be easier to write.
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acf_ma
March 22, 2010 3:41 PM
Really? Nice try at spinning. If he meant to refer to the bill, then he should have apologized to the House for the disruption, and to us for the insulting display of intolerance, not to Stupak. By apologizing to Stupak, he's tacitly admitting that he intended the outburst to be at Stupak, just as it appeared to everyone, and the only reason he is saying anything at all is because of the outrage and pressure being brought to bear on the party.
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acf_ma
March 22, 2010 3:46 PM in reply to acf_ma
Sorry, I missed the fact that he said he apologized to his colleagues. It still doesn't change what he said, and I still believe he is using their tactic of saying these kinds of things in this way, then saying "oops, sorry" after enjoying the outburst, and intentional, not unintended, outburst.
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Dorn76
March 22, 2010 3:51 PM
Talk tough and then run for cover when the light shines on you.
Wuss.
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Blouise
March 22, 2010 3:54 PM
Another idiot full of bravado when he's in a gang of like-minded boys and full of falsehoods when called to account for his actions as an individual.
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Voter4America
March 22, 2010 3:58 PM
It's just a damn shame his mother didn't have an abortion.
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FlownOver
March 22, 2010 3:59 PM
Wish he'd followed Buddy Holly's dictum: "I'd rather shovel shit in Lubbock."
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nbcac
March 22, 2010 4:04 PM
I hope Stupidpak sleeps well tonight
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cinesimon
March 22, 2010 4:05 PM
Yet another example of how those within the republican party will do anything but take responsibility for their actions.
By trying to re-frame it as talk of the bill rather than childish name calling, all he does is confirm to all how dishonest he is.
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nbcac
March 22, 2010 4:16 PM
WRONG. I'm a pro-life democrat who thinks he bailed out on us.
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LAB
March 22, 2010 4:22 PM in reply to nbcac
So? Roe v. Wade is the law. It will not be overturned.
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dem4life
March 22, 2010 4:21 PM
oh good. The klan at work AGAIN!
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Mary Alice
March 22, 2010 4:22 PM
He must have made Texas very proud. They perhaps should reward him with a tiny baby dinosaur. His grandchildren could have it as a playmate. But they would have to promise first to feed it, clean up after it and take it for walks.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 4:22 PM
Texas is a great state we have oil nuke plants wind mills food protect you people from enemies of our country . Low taxes got water a decent relationship with mexico not broke and can leave the country .where would you guys be Hmmmm we rake alot of cash to the fed govt where would you guys be hmmmm oh and no union which is one reason were not broke. How much are you guys paying ofr house food gas electricity and college we have the cheapest colleges in the country hmmm yeah our state sucks. got fuel?
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LAB
March 22, 2010 4:29 PM in reply to enough already
Obviously they cut out a little too much from the education system. At least the class where you learn punctuation.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 4:53 PM in reply to LAB
my typing isnt very good so what see taht all you have to say is my punctuation but cant deny what texas offers we save everyone in this country.on a daily bases. and have excellent health care for the people who fight for your freedom. IF you want to comment on punctuation . and avoid the rest go ahead. doesnt change teh fact with out texas this country would feel it.
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 4:57 PM in reply to enough already
Without Texas, the national average IQ would skyrocket, there'd be a lot less crap music and people would not longer delude themselves that the Cowboys are America's team. The Saints are AMerica's team. Seriously, this guy can't be for real, even Texans aren't THAT stupid are they?
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enough already
March 22, 2010 5:04 PM in reply to Max Thrax
heres is another point yu assume who people are . Im talking about veryday things that are vital to living and your bringing up football .The education here is not at the lowest level in the country not the top either but im guessing your probably at the same level because you dont know which states have the higher scores well maybe i have one better on you i do. so again vital info vs sports . hmmm .
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dougom
March 23, 2010 3:22 AM in reply to enough already
Enough already, enough already; you're not helping our case.
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Msinformed
March 22, 2010 6:15 PM in reply to enough already
My typing isn't very good either, "fellow Texan", but my reading is excellent and so I read what I type and then correct my errors.
I've upped MY standards, now Up YOURS!
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 5:00 PM in reply to enough already
Texas is the asshole of the world. We need to wipe it.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 5:14 PM in reply to Max Thrax
from your state with what see hatred comments were all americans im just saying texas has alot ot offer wre the friendly state who share oil, help our boarders. and allat the same time protect you and we have to be wiped out . welove you anyway .
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Msinformed
March 22, 2010 6:17 PM in reply to enough already
You are incoherent. Really.
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March 23, 2010 1:46 AM in reply to Msinformed
well all im saying is for those haters out there is Texas we have it much better than most states . hows the unemployment in your neck of the woods ? Hows the prices ? Did i hear union ? nope. got fuel?
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Msinformed
May 22, 2010 12:48 PM in reply to enough already
I live in Texas. I talk to Texans everyday. Your comments are still incoherent.
Word, y'all.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 5:18 PM in reply to Max Thrax
oh my goodness a republican said love bad republican ge maybe i should have said it in spanish oops cant do that republicans cant be hispanic either
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mmfiore
March 22, 2010 4:26 PM
It is interesting that people here are more interested about who yelled out "Baby Killer" rather than people who actually vote to kill babies. That is really a twisted sick thought process. These people can't tell the difference between what is good and evil.
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LAB
March 22, 2010 4:30 PM in reply to mmfiore
So what about the frozen embryos? Surely you don't condone invitro fertilization?
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lyleleander
March 22, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to LAB
Why expect a response? He's probably busy harvesting all the proceeds from his latest act of self-love off his t-shirt or pants and getting ready to run through the streets screaming and begging for some fertile woman to take it off his hands and put it to use.
'Please, don't let these babies die in vain!!! They can only last so long in this state!!!' as he waves around his crusty sock, with drool running down his face, and his fanny pack bouncing up and down with every stilted step he takes.
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loria
March 22, 2010 4:48 PM in reply to mmfiore
Who votes to kill babies? Don't even try to tell us this bill was about abortion. It was about reform and extending insurance to 31 million Americans.
I think you might be the one who can't tell the difference betwee good and evil. You might want to reconsider calling yourself pro-life because there is nothing pro-life about someone who opposed this bill.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 5:38 PM in reply to loria
opposing the bill because what it does and doesnt offer can be opposed reform on health care no . no one not even republicans say our system is perfect but it can be proposed a differnt way. with better ideas such as crossing state line . which i dont think this has. an not making side deals look what happen to louisianna in the first place .cutting deals with the fed govt. LOuisianna should be as rich or richer than texas . if you knew the history behind their oil and the big govt they wouldnt have issues. Louisianna was the first state to drill off shore . and what ever happened because of the states liberl approach they came to texas. SO there you go. yep our state texas sucks. by the way we have alot of california people moving here as well. They live better. money goes further. So opposing this bill was the right thing. we need better.
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hollywood
March 22, 2010 6:41 PM in reply to enough already
Dear Stupid, there are nearly 40 million people in California (about the same as Canada) so which state border do you suggest we all cross to get to your MAGIC REPUBLICAN HEALTHCARE UTOPIA? Do you think it's Nevada? Oregon? And these magic policies cost how much? And they have what copayments? And if I have a problem getting my payments from the mini-mall in Reno, NV which office of healthcare payments enforcement do I contact?
Try this on for size Bozo ............... Canada has single payer and no insurance middleman and they get all their citizens covered cradle to grave for about half the price in America. Take out the 30% overhead and gee the price comes way way down. Why don't republicans support a little business common sense instead of the price gouging system we have now?
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enough already
March 23, 2010 2:02 AM in reply to hollywood
canada is a whole different country less population. Even they are starting to privatize their health care. They cant afford it either. I never said there was not a need to reform just not like this . California oh yeah bankrupt oregan getting bankrupt newyork oh yeah bankrupt. they are beautiful states but how the unemployment and how much is your college werent they rioting over tutition in california. still fact remains dollar goes further here. and were not bankrupt
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March 23, 2010 2:10 AM in reply to hollywood
canada is a whole different country less population. Even they are starting to privatize their health care. They cant afford it either. I never said there was not a need to reform just not like this . California oh yeah bankrupt oregan getting bankrupt newyork oh yeah bankrupt. they are beautiful states but how the unemployment and how much is your college werent they rioting over tutition in california. still fact remains dollar goes further here. and were not bankrupt
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aabbzz
March 22, 2010 4:34 PM
Is it just me or does he seem to be way full of himself.
Jess
www.mask-your-ip.se.tc
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enough already
March 22, 2010 4:35 PM
amen. thank you. and the name calling directly to people stating there opinion here at this sight and not knowing what race they are not that it matters all republicans are white no and their rich no . its funny and sad at the same time . all Teabaggers are racists no. one thing is right though texas should leave what ever you want to call this country now . Its definently not recognizable
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itsallaboutthemoney
March 22, 2010 4:39 PM
Not the only thing not recognizable >.
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enough already
March 22, 2010 4:40 PM
amen. thank you. and the name calling directly to people stating there opinion here at this sight and not knowing what race they are not that it matters all republicans are white no and their rich no . its funny and sad at the same time . all Teabaggers are racists no. one thing is right though texas should leave what ever you want to call this country now . Its definently not recognizable
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mmfiore
March 22, 2010 4:41 PM
In reply to Lab
Why would I have a problem with helping people have babies? I personally have no problem with that. Do you have a problem terminating Unborn Life. I'm guessing not...
Oh by the way its In Vitro, not invitro
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 4:53 PM in reply to mmfiore
I'm using zygotes as croutons for my salad right now!
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LarryMo
March 22, 2010 6:24 PM in reply to Max Thrax
Crunchy, with a hint of arugala. Great with a dash of balsamic vinegar.
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MTinMO
March 22, 2010 4:49 PM
The main thing is for all of us to get out and vote this November, and for the primaries too. We need to make sure the right people get on the ticket and then make sure we support them in November. No matter where you are in the U.S., make sure you and your families and friends get out and vote. It is as important as November 2008 was.
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Verra
March 22, 2010 4:54 PM
i don't see anything wrong with his comment, and , actually i wish i was the one telling the Judas Stupak that he is a baby killer and a back stabbing hypocrite...Stupak and his gang of false Christians should all put their head down in shame for what they did ... but then judgement is not ours , but, since they claim to be of faith they know what awaits them for allowing the surge of 400 thousand more abortions a year all at taxpayers expense...
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lyleleander
March 22, 2010 5:16 PM in reply to Verra
You have the right to your beliefs, but where is your evidence that tax-payers are going to fund abortions? You just say it's so, despite a complete dirth of evidence, and it's so? It's that simple for you guys?
Well, what's new?
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LarryMo
March 22, 2010 6:27 PM in reply to lyleleander
That "factoid" was presented by Beck, no doubt.
It is a lie, being passed along by someone who is referring to religious values.
Nope. No contradiction there. Lying for "just cause" is okie-dokie.
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bluesplashy
March 22, 2010 6:48 PM in reply to Verra
Give me links that prove that there will be abortions paid for by the feds. Show me where it is in the bill you bozo. Don't tell me that crap unless you have proof. And I don't mean what you read on some church bill board. Let me save you some time - you won't find it so just go away.
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 4:59 PM
Reading the sour grapes conservative comments here is so much fun. I'm going to abort 2 more babies to celebrate.
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Verra
March 22, 2010 5:04 PM in reply to Max Thrax
ugly comes in many different names yours is Max...the only thing you can say is to call abortion "sour grape" ... ? how about the fact that Obama stole from all taxpayers to bribe the votes, and that he coerced his Democrats into the vote or else...? and that he will now escalate abortion by an additional 400 thousand a year and we will all have to pay for the mistakes you liberals make and want all of us to pay for...???
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 5:17 PM in reply to Verra
He did no such thing liar. To punish you, I will now make a pate out of my remaining zygotes in order to make canapes.
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Max Thrax
March 22, 2010 5:22 PM in reply to Verra
"and that he will now escalate abortion by an additional 400 thousand a year and we will all have to pay for the mistakes you liberals make and want all of us to pay for...???"
First off, it's wrong for you to call these unwanted pregnancies 'mistakes', Jesus made those babies and Jesus don't make no mistakes. Secondly, HCR will save 600,000 babies so if we do some math, and let me help you here cuz I assume you're not too good at math, we come up with 200,000 babies saved overall. Now some of those babies will be darkies, which I'm sure you won't approve, but SOME of them must be white. So there's that.
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Verra
March 22, 2010 6:47 PM in reply to Max Thrax
you must be quite dumm to even say things with those words...and of course just like the rest of the Democrats you only know how to blow hot air in the wind with no real sense...it is Planned Parenthood which is a big sponsor of abortions that is culpable of aborting babies of Black Americans and it is really dumm that most of the Black representatives in the White House are so pro abortion...??? go figure i guess the money NoBOma doles out is very appealing while their own race is decimated by PP...
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Sir T
March 22, 2010 9:28 PM in reply to Verra
Please, for the love of God...
IT'S SPELLED 'DUMB'!
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Unnamed Former Party Official
March 22, 2010 5:06 PM
I think there should be a house resolution requiring him to write on the blackboard 100 times: "Republican Opposition to Healthcare Kills Babies, Congressman Stupak Does Not"
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lyleleander
March 22, 2010 5:14 PM
This A-Hole gets no credit for 'outing' himself, as it was clear from all the reports filed about this last night that multiple people knew exactly who it was who yelled it out, and he had to then know that his clock was ticking.
And the Horse-Sh*t excuse that he was yelling 'It's a baby killer' doesn't fly for two feet, either. Especially considering Stupak was up speaking at the moment.
But that's just as dumb as he thinks his constituents are, and he's probably right. Tell a lie, and it becomes reality to these two-faced, religion-drunk, America-hating cowards. Always has been, always will be.
Welcome to America.
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Iris
March 22, 2010 5:21 PM
Ten gallon hat on a half pint brain The bill in no way threatens babies. In fact the lives of unborn babies will be aided by mothers who are fully insured. More embryos will have a full and healthy development. There will be fewer miscarriages and still births, thanks to mothers' expanded access to health care. Clearly, this Texan knows as little about baby health as he does about manners.
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susanthe
March 22, 2010 5:25 PM
Neugebarger kills babies every time he beats off. Will he apologize to us for that?
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Cully
March 22, 2010 5:25 PM
“While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn…” - Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-TX)
WHAT is wrong with this man!! Doesn’t he know about the Hyde Amendment… sure he wouldn’t have learned about it in Real Estate school but once he was elected to political office surely being a supporter of the Right to Life movement he must have at the very least heard of the Hyde Amendment!!
And for those who have not… The Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for aborthions and has been routinely attached to annual appropriations bills since 1976. When it originally passed it was by a 207-167 vote; AND, its chief sponsor was Henry Hyde – A REPUBLICAN!
And BTW… As of 2007, 17 of the 50 states fund abortions voluntarily. 13 of these states are required by court order to do so.
The fact that this Executive order was not thought of sooner is the tragic consequence.
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turningfool
March 22, 2010 5:30 PM
I suppose he can now expect a few million in campaign donations.
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lyleleander
March 22, 2010 6:06 PM in reply to turningfool
Let them waste their money on this ass-hat, for all I care. Not like any sane person is ever going to be elected to office in Lubbock for at last five generations anyway.
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IMNOTBITTER
March 22, 2010 5:40 PM
I have it on very good authority that this guy is responsible for the death of millions upon millions of viable sperm......which if they had not be so callously washed down the sink or flushed down the toilet would have grown up to be contributing members of our society. Shame on this man....you may actually be able to call him a HUGE Je*k Off.
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voreason
March 22, 2010 5:42 PM
It's time for the United States of America to secede from Texas.
Seriously.
These clowns would be in serious trouble if it weren't for the fact that they get back ~$1.40 for every tax dollar they send to the federal government.
I for one am tired of carrying water for these pampered thugs.
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Iris
March 22, 2010 5:56 PM
I agree, secession from Texas. Should have been done 12 years ago, would have saved a lot of damage.
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ejg3
March 22, 2010 5:58 PM
I wonder if his logorrhea can be explained by his probable heads up self exploration of where the sun doesn't shine.
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Zeugma
March 22, 2010 6:14 PM
He's just one more elected piece of White Trash from Texas. His constituents get the elected official they deserve.
We need a new federal acronym and approach in government spending: ABT: Anywhere But Texas. Enough handouts. Let them raise their own taxes and pay their own way. They may claim to be a "low tax state," but that's just because they're on the federal dole.
ABT.
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manyamile
March 22, 2010 6:41 PM
Repazenatif Noogie-bower jes meant allus UTHERN'S who voted fer the hayath ker bill is baby killerz, NOT Repazenatif Stewpik.
If'n yew don bleeve him, he hayas a spit wad with yer name on it, cos he's a bayad ass, cep when it comes tah th unborn, y'unnerstan.
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jeffgee
March 22, 2010 6:49 PM
Neugebauer & Gramm separated at birth?
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Mary Alice
March 22, 2010 6:59 PM
Can't we just let the South secede;
Perhaps let Texas take the lead?
They could start a whole new state,
In Somalia. That sounds great.
I've heard it's really fun down there.
The kiddies all own guns down there.
There, as in dear old Texas land,
Guns and hate skip hand-in-hand.
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CranialRectalLoopback
March 22, 2010 7:09 PM in reply to Mary Alice
Is there anything in the Constitution that prevents the Nation from excising a state?
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CranialRectalLoopback
March 22, 2010 7:01 PM
Hopefully this baby will be treated as such by Stupak or a Stupak surrogate.
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kellell
March 22, 2010 7:08 PM
We fight for freedom and Democracy around the world and yesterday the voice of the American people was silenced! It is time to vote them out, demand accountability, honesty and true representation of the wishes of the American people. I have always been politically aware but not active. That changed yesterday.
Process does matter. It is what we teach our children. Follow the rules, play fair, tell the truth and accept that you do not always get what you want with grace. The corrupt back room deals, threats and intimidation by a few was cheered on the House floor last night. Greed and corrupt power showed their true colors last night. Stupak caved and was bought off with "30 pieces of silver" and then turned on those who had supported him. I may not agree with his politics but respected his stand on principles. That is gone.
November will not just be about healthcare, it will be about the loss of respect and trust in our elected leaders. They forgot who signs their check, and I am not talking about the bribes!
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Sir T
March 22, 2010 9:33 PM in reply to kellell
Your soldiers fought and died for the right to a single payer health care system to be set up in Iraq.
Yes, the republican administration Oked a single payer health system in Iraq, and your soldiers fought and died for it. Yet they are fighting like crazy against the same rights for Americans own citizens, and calling it evil.
I'm sorry, but by all evidence the Republicans are against the very freedoms your soldiers are fighting for.
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Ricky
March 22, 2010 7:11 PM
All,
Say all you want to say about the man and say it as loud as you want. In the end when God passes judgement on ALL of us, then and only THEN will you be seeing what he wanted for each and everyone of us.
Gospel John 8:1-11
Gospel Reflection
Once again the scribes and Pharisees are trying to trap Jesus. They bring him a woman caught in the act of adultery. The Law of Moses requires that the adulteress should die. If Jesus does not agree, he will look like someone who does not respect the Law of Moses.
To the Pharisees' amazement, Jesus at first ignores them. Then he stops them in their tracks with an unexpected challenge: "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." One by one the judges and critics drop their stones and drift away. Now that they recognize their own need for forgiveness, they are not ready to condemn someone else. Neither does Jesus condemn the woman. He simply requires her to turn away from sin. Now she has a chance for a new beginning. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
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IMNOTBITTER
March 22, 2010 7:20 PM in reply to Ricky
You left out the part where his mother picked up a stone and threw it at the Prostitute.
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JNagarya
March 23, 2010 4:10 AM in reply to Ricky
Prove there's a "God". Or cease asserting your delusion.
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D Mac
March 22, 2010 8:32 PM
Stimulate the economy, Pull all the Government and
Military jobs out of Texas, unemployment goes to less
than 5 percent and Texas secedes to becomes Northern Mexico.
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auntp
March 22, 2010 9:25 PM
Some of these people need to turn off the radio and start thinking. There was nothing wrong with the process and using reconciliation- It's been done many times before, esp. during the Bush years. Remember when they tried to end the filibuster??? They would have loved to have used that here.
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larry kittiver
March 22, 2010 9:51 PM
What more can you expect from a Texan. Too bad the north won the civil war. We would be a better place without the states of the confederacy with a few exceptions like Virginia. Certainly not Texas. As the governor said they reserve the right to leave. GOODBYE.
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LADYLALAE
March 22, 2010 10:42 PM
There is no need to be dumping all Texans with this neanderthal!! It is a shame how, especially at his age, he is acting sophomoric! Texas is one of the biggest states there is, so to go saying it is "north Mexico" is giving up a lot of land! Everyone seems to talk without thinking... How about hushing up to let your brain catch up to that pie-hole you call a mouth? Nuff said.... God bless the state of Texas (from jerks like this dude)
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planetspinz
March 23, 2010 12:29 AM
Instead of complaining to the choir tell Neugebauer what you think
http://twitter.com/RandyNeugebauer
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Randy-Neugebauer/19897075744
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RobbyLove
March 23, 2010 12:55 AM
Did the hippies ever apologize to my Dad for calling him the same thing when he came back from Vietnam? Nobody ever apologized to our vets.
Quit being a bunch of over-sensitized PC shills and learn what truly offensive behavior is. In other words...grow the hell up. You know who you are.
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JNagarya
March 23, 2010 4:09 AM in reply to RobbyLove
"Did the hippies ever apologize to my Dad for calling him the same thing when he came back from Vietnam?"
1. US involvement in Vietnam was ILLEGAL. I have NO respect for ANYONE who willingly supports the ILLEGAL -- DOUBLY so when they believe that the CRIMINAL is PATRIOTIC.
2. As for your ignorance about "Hippies": they were APOLITICAL. They "dropped out, turned on, and tuned in; which means, they disengaged from the system and IGNORED politics.
3. I was there, punk. No one ever called your daddy anything. All that crap is from right-wingers -- especilly Vietnam vets who can't admit they were suckered into supporting and pursuing an ILLEGALITY. That they were WRONG.
It's everyone else's damned fault that they were wrong because everyone else is a CONSTANT REMINDER that they were SUCKERS.
"Nobody ever apologized to our vets."
For WHAT, turd!? Being suckers!? For being WRONG!?
"Quit being a bunch of over-sensitized PC shills and learn what truly offensive behavior is."
Calling your fellow citizens "anti-American" when they REFUSE to support ILLEGALITIES is ANTI-AMERICAN. Otherwise, as for "over-sensitized PC shills": tell your daddy to suck it up, stop blaming everyone else for his being a sucker, and wrong, and GROW UP.
"In other words...grow the hell up."
STFU, juvenile PUNK.
"You know who you are."
Yes: I know who I am. And that I am NOT one who was SUCKERED into an ILLEGAL WAR -- then decided to blame those who KNEW BETTER AT THE TIME for NOT being wrong.
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crazycarnypoptart
March 23, 2010 1:44 AM
yeah I meant I will not vote for him, I gotta proofread next time. He is really an embarrassment to our district.
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colorado bob
March 23, 2010 2:23 AM
I am from Lubbock, I am in Lubbock ........ In the last 60 days, Craig Crawford, Don Imus, and Keith Olberman have helped me shelter over 1,000 Haitians .
http://tmfishcamp.blogspot.com/
Not all Texans are fools.
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colorado bob
March 23, 2010 2:28 AM
Here's that donation page -
http://www.justgiving.com/Colorado-Bob
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dem4life
March 23, 2010 9:30 AM
Liar bastard
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enough already
March 23, 2010 10:21 AM
god bless us all
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tlongpine
March 23, 2010 12:47 PM
This stunt has already caught the attention of pro-life organizations, and they're flooding Randy Neugebauer’s campaign with donations. He has apologized, but an apology is not enough! It's not enough to say you regret your behavior while you reap it's reward.
This impulsive attention grabbing stunt isn't just harmless rhetoric. It's uncivil. It's hateful. It's worse than Joe Wilson.
Democrat Andrew Wilson is running against Randy Neugebauer. Demand better from Congress and and make a donation today to Andrew Wilson's campaign at http://www.istandwithandy.com/get-involved/donate-now.
Together we can end these kinds of political stunts!
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Tosh
June 6, 2010 2:11 AM
It's beginning to dawn on some of the Republicans that their behavior is unacceptable. Even Rep. Neuegebauer realized that he ought to offer an apology.
My guess is that it is beginning to dawn on some of their voters as well.
I'd be more inclined to forgive him if he hadn't shown himself perfectly willing to let born children die.
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