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Outcrazying The Crazy: How A Prankster Plans To Infiltrate And Destroy The Tea Party Movement
Jason Levin, leader of Crash The Tea Party
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Meet Jason Levin, quite possibly the scariest man in the tea party universe. An Oregon technology consultant, Levin is the leader of Crash The Tea Party, a plan to take down the tea party from the inside. Levin says he's got a growing cadre of supporters across the country, and conservatives from the message boards to the set of the Sean Hannity's show are getting nervous.
"Our plan is not to shout them down," Levin told me yesterday, "but to infiltrate them and push them farther from the mainstream."
The scheme reads like a sequel to "Being John Malkovich": Levin's group of protesters plan to get in the heads of tea partiers at the Tax Day Tea Parties nationwide Thursday and manipulate them right out of relevance. They'll dress like tea partiers, talk like tea partiers and carry signs like tea partiers. In fact, according to Levin they'll be completely indistinguishable from tea partiers, except for one thing -- they won't be out-crazied by anyone.
"Our goal is that whenever a tea partier says 'Barack Obama was not born in America,' we're going be right right there next to them saying, 'yeah, in fact he wasn't born on Earth! He's an alien!" Levin explained. He said that by making the tea parties sound like a gathering of crazy people -- his group's goal -- the movement will lose its power.
Levin said he got the idea from a counter-protest to the infamous Westboro Baptist Church group held outside Twitter headquarters in January. Levin said the Westboro group broke up after counter-protesters showed up holding signs "even crazier" than the ones held by the Westboro group. "They realized they couldn't get their message out, so they just left" Levin said.
On the Crash The Tea Party website, managed by Levin, he explains how the plan will work. "Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party to exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled protest signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.)"
[TPM SLIDESHOW: Top 10 Tea Party Signs]
"The lower the public opinion of them goes, the less coverage they're going to get in the mainstream media," Levin said when I asked him about the plan. "Then the GOP stops listening to them and they disperse and they go back to their militias and cabins in the woods."
He emphasized that his group is non-violent, and not interested in "perpetuating racism, homophobia or misogyny." Levin said that "members are free to do as they wish," but if violence breaks out at a tea party rally on Thursday, or more epithets like the ones thrown around during the health care debate are heard, it won't be because of his group.
He explained the distinction to me this way: If you see someone wearing a Nazi uniform at a tea party, it could be one of his members. If you see some one wearing a Nazi uniform throwing a rock, it's definitely not one of his members.
I asked him if he was worried publicly proclaiming that the most extreme people at the tea party rallies could be plans plants might help the movement he's trying to destroy. The tea party movement is struggling with its own identity, and some in the movement have already claimed that some of the darker chapters in its history (such as the death threats that came after the health care vote) were fantasies created by liberal infiltrators. Levin said no matter what the tea parties say about his plans, it's a "win-win" for his group.
"What can they say?" he said. "Either we've infiltrated their group so pervasively that they might as well hang it up, or we haven't infiltrated them that much they really are just racists."
Levin said he has 66 member groups (and growing) across the country planning to fan out at tea party gatherings on Thursday.
And while it's not clear how big the group actually is, or how serious the effort will be, the idea has already set off a small panic among tea partiers and their supporters. Upset tea partiers have posted Levin's address and phone number on the FreeRepublic.com message boards, leading, he said, to "silly threats" against him and his family. On Friday, Sean Hannity attacked the group in a segment on his radio show. And tea party groups across the country are warning their members to be on the lookout for the infiltrators. In Oregon, a tea party group has said it plans to get the police involved if they catch any of Levin's organizers.
Levin said all the attention just serves to make his plan more successful.
"How do you spot a fake tea partier? Do they have a tea bag tattooed on their forehead?" he said. "Thanks to us, the next time you're at a tea party and you see a guy with a misspelled sign you'll have to say 'is this guy an idiot? Or is he just an infiltrator?"
Late Update: Dave Weigel reports on FreedomWorks' plan to expose infiltrators like Levin and capture them on video at the Tax Day rallies on Thursday. The group is taking Levin's plan -- and the possibility of other infiltrators -- pretty seriously, and is planning to point out and confront anyone with a "racist or offensive" sign at a rally on Thursday.
Later Update KATU-TV's Anita Kissée caught up with Levin at home in Oregon. Check out the video here.
Late late update: Levin, who teaches media technology to middle schoolers, is being investigated by his school district after the district received a deluge of calls, many from tea partiers.
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Lucieann
April 13, 2010 11:29 AM
Doesn't this defeat the purpose? We want the tea-baggers to remain just as outrageous as they are for as long as possible....they don't need any help in that. They are the gift that keeps on giving , just the way they are.
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mastershake1
April 13, 2010 11:34 AM in reply to Lucieann
When you tell a bunch of paranoid nutters that you plan on infiltrating their movement, it makes them even more paranoid. It also will likely force the groups to create bureaucracies in order to police their own members, which undermines the argument that these are "leaderless grassroots movements."
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justaJ0e
April 13, 2010 1:22 PM in reply to mastershake1
Yep. This is brilliance because now this group doesn't actually have to be at any of these events !
The shear idea that ANY of the people standing next to you at a Tea Bagging event could be a plant will ratchet the paranoia up so high, it's only a mater of time till they start turning their hate on each other.
The outcome could get really messy and I know I shouldn't enjoy the thought of that ... but these people have been so hateful. The thought of a crowd of them turning their hate and rage on one of their own just seems so fitting.
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MNPundit
April 13, 2010 1:49 PM in reply to justaJ0e
Don't they already believe this? I think TPM reporting on the issue just makes it less likely to succeed.
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midnight rambler
April 13, 2010 2:54 PM in reply to MNPundit
Yeah, they're already claiming that every racist sign seen at a tea party event is actually a liberal plant to make them look bad. They'll just take this as confirmation that it's been going on all along.
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slb
April 13, 2010 3:03 PM in reply to midnight rambler
Exactly. I don't see this as a winning strategy for the left at all. I don't want to give these guys any reason to weasel out of full responsibility for what they are doing.
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Dave Adams
April 13, 2010 3:24 PM in reply to slb
I sorry, but you're making me warm to this idea. The infiltrators have sworn off violence. But I'm pretty sure most Teabaggers have not. It would be poetic justice to see some of tham start going off on each other just based on mutual suspicion. They're already prone to that sort of thuggery.
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Shortbus
April 13, 2010 3:38 PM in reply to Dave Adams
I agree! This is priceless. Watch "Rise of the Teabaggers" on Bradblog.com and you'll see how this will work to disperse them
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Will Shetterly
April 13, 2010 7:08 PM in reply to Dave Adams
Seems to me this is just a way to give them plausible deniability for any excesses of their followers: "That crazy racist was clearly another liberal stooge."
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Dave Adams
April 13, 2010 11:19 PM in reply to Will Shetterly
After thinking about this for a while, I am forced to agree with you. And as much as it pains me to say this, I am forced to agree with some of the Conservatives commenting on this post, too.
Messing with someone else's expression of free speech is disrespectful of the idea of free speech. The fact that for some of the Teabaggers its more like an excretion of free speech is beside the point.
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socraticgadfly
April 13, 2010 7:20 PM in reply to Dave Adams
He's a 9/11 Truther, apparently. Great. Fighting nuttery with nuttery, potentially.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/whos-behind-the-crash-the-tea-party-website/?singlepage=true
His Twitter acct promotes: http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
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hologram5
April 14, 2010 10:39 AM in reply to socraticgadfly
He, along with many others (more than you know) are not saying that the Feds were involved, they just want a REAL investigation as the 9/11 commision themselves stated in a press release that they were warned NOT to go too far in their investigation. We just want to know why. That's not too much to ask is it? The truth of what happened and why the cover up.
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Dizzy Izzy
April 14, 2010 11:33 AM in reply to socraticgadfly
When the government and media make "Truther" a bad word, I think you need to look a little deeper. Painting the critics as "crazy" and "conspiracy theorists" is how they smokescreen what they are doing. I don't know what really happened on 9/11 but I do know that the report on it was complete B.S.
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RocketEngineer
April 13, 2010 10:19 PM in reply to Dave Adams
In Arizona they'll end up shooting each other.
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bmmg39
April 14, 2010 1:11 PM in reply to Dave Adams
No, the infiltrators HAVEN'T "sworn off violence." They've only CLAIMED to do so, which sets up their acts of violence, after which they'll point to "oh, no, we're just infiltrating, not being violent" in a foolish attempt to give themselves cover.
I'm pleased as punch that this Jason Levin dimwit was actually stupid enough to ANNOUNCE his plans to do this, because if I'm the Tea Party folks I'm planning on attributing every loop-job to Levin's "crash" movement. Thanks, Jase! With people like you leading the left, the GOP will pick up about 120 seats in November.
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Dave Adams
April 15, 2010 3:38 PM in reply to bmmg39
Where is your proof?
For my part, I'm not even sure whether or not this person is simply running a hoax. And here you are, letting your little paranoid pea-brain run wild, projecting what this guy might do. See, that's where he's got you bmmg39. He knows right-wing ass-hats like you don't need proof; you'll froth at the mouth at the least provocation.
And that's a shame. I certainly don't wish that any of you Teabaggers hurt each other, but I think that Levin's prank could lead to that.
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justaJ0e
April 13, 2010 5:01 PM in reply to slb
The beauty is, the people who have shown up with those kind of signs will CONTINUE to do so ... causing the ultra paranoid Tea Bagger's (who see boogymen hiding behind every bush anyway) to suspect them of being "infiltrators"and hopefully turning on their own.
Let the mayhem begin!
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bobbobfofob
April 13, 2010 5:22 PM in reply to justaJ0e
In order to avoid being suspected of infiltration, the baggers will have to lern gud spellin. Start them down the road of education and their days as baggers are numbered.
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bmmg39
April 14, 2010 1:15 PM in reply to justaJ0e
Joe, the Tea Partiers ALREADY turn on such idiots, because the idiots who show up with racist nonsense at rallies are usually kicked out.
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morriganinoregon
April 13, 2010 3:48 PM in reply to MNPundit
"I think TPM reporting on the issue just makes it less likely to succeed."
but they have ALREADY succeeded, and they didn't even have to show up!
Brilliant concept! Now there are going to be 'purity tests' for TeaBaggers.
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justaJ0e
April 13, 2010 1:50 PM in reply to justaJ0e
In fact, after thinking about it for a bit - I realized you wouldn't even have to "act out" to disrupt a Tea Bagger event.
Just go with a friend and indignantly discuss (loud enough to be heard by those standing just around you) the "party crasher" that has been identified on the other side of the crowd, how "unAmerican they are" how they out to be "boo-ed" out of here by the crowd. Maybe even describe (generically) a few of the Tea Baggers you have seen in the crowd.
Then go to the other side and have a similar discussion before remarking that you guys want to leave before they start throwing eggs. Shouldn't take long before the rumors sweep the crowd and chaos takes hold.
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reflectionsv37
April 13, 2010 2:30 PM in reply to justaJ0e
That's almost evil. Now excuse me while I go search for a list of teabagger events near me.
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twirling fartknocker
April 13, 2010 2:09 PM in reply to justaJ0e
Yes, and the petitions and collecting info thing is a great tactic too. Now whenever someone comes around with a clipboard they'll be suspicious. Just the thought of it disrupts their networking.
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Madkat
April 13, 2010 2:11 PM in reply to justaJ0e
It will be like mega shark vs giant octopus!
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Waltz
April 13, 2010 2:44 PM in reply to Madkat
Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus is probably the best piece of cinema ever! EVER!
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justaJ0e
April 13, 2010 5:09 PM in reply to Waltz
LOL
... and much preferable to this Tea Bagger lot!
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dhlii
April 15, 2010 4:27 AM in reply to justaJ0e
It is possible that this will work - to the extent that progressives will remain blind to the the fact that they have entirely alienated and greatly angered the right and center of this country.
But for the majority of who identify with the anger of the Tea Partiers, you have just made it much easier for us to discount the bad press and fringe elements. We already know that the media completely misrepresents and even falsifies stories about non-progressive protests - the "Kill Him" and purported rally violence during the election cycle, the non-existent spittle and racial epitaph incidents at the capitol, .....
Now whatever craziness occurs at Tea Parties is obviously the work of progressive infiltrators.
Worse still you have given the Tea Party groups a rationale for policing their own events - and evicting the extremists - again they are really just infiltrators.
Even if confrontations with the loons turn violent - it still can be blamed on the progressive saboteurs.
The public has already perceived that the Tea Parties are being misrepresented. Now they have an explanation.
Further there were reports of just such an infiltration plot and Democrats were denying it, and trying to portray it as paranoia. It is not paranoia when someone admits they are out to get you.
Finally, there are crazies out of every persuasion. Lunatics and hate mongers are not the invention or exclusive domain of tea parties or the right. Rather than focus on the existence of a few nutcases - regardless of whether they are real or fake, you may wish to ponder why so much of the political middle is angry with progressives ? For those of you who think tea parties are a GOP conspiracy - all too many of us are only less unhappy with the GOP. They may have brought us here, but they did not triple down on recklessness. The tea parties are an ultimatum to republicans - "return to limited government, or remain irrelevant". To progressives the message is "you are so out of step you can not be saved"
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AhTrini1
April 13, 2010 2:09 PM in reply to mastershake1
It's a pity I can't show up, since I'm of the wrong color.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 2:40 PM in reply to AhTrini1
Dude, they're so desperate to add some color to their ranks that they might even give you a shot at the microphone.
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kenga
April 13, 2010 3:22 PM in reply to expat46
Just bring a gun.
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bigpappa48
April 14, 2010 5:12 PM in reply to mastershake1
Why are you Democrats so afraid of the Tea Party movement? The MSM has libeled the group by falsely accusing them of being racist. I am a black man in America and I am a member of the Tea Party and have visited 4 different rallies. I have never had anything but a good time discussing issues with fellow Americans. Provacateurs like this nerd Jason Levin are the only ones who would shout anything remotely racist. I wish Jason would have a debate with myself and my fellow Americans. But I am sure he is a pathetic excuse for a real American. I am sure he loves Obama and anything else MSNBC and CNBC tell him is the truth. Democrats and Republicans are bought and paid for two sides to the same coin. WAKE UP!!!
INFOWARS.COM
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Sparkly Pinecone
April 15, 2010 7:13 PM in reply to bigpappa48
I am intrigued that you feel at home among the teapartiers. I have not heard too much in the way of support for the TP from anyone but white people. TPers' views on social issues seem to me to indicate a deep suspicion of people of color, in particular the uniquely bizarre personal suspicions about Barack Obama.
The arguments don't make sense to me (no socialized medicine /hands off my medicare, etc), unless I factor in what appears to be a general freakout over a Black president. Just my 2 cents, in answer to your question.
But tell me this, if you'd be so kind, why is is that you are attracted to the tea party and not to libertarianism? This has been on my mind all day. Thanks.
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JohnLloydScharf
April 18, 2010 7:13 PM in reply to mastershake1
This article bares little or no relation to the facts. Jason Levin has been suspended from his job as a teacher in Beaverton, Oregon because of his behavior. He was advocating crimes involving gathering signatures for fraudulent resasons and identity theft, a felony in Oregon. The original suspension is for an investigation of how his extremist ideas affect his teaching. However, a teacher advocating a crime can be sanctioned up to and including termination.
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shooter242
April 13, 2010 12:22 PM in reply to Lucieann
I'm heartened to see a little honesty from the nutroots. Formenting unrest by deceit and deception is the gameplan, and you are all proud of it.
Keep up the good work.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 12:37 PM in reply to shooter242
Bless you, Peashooter, your criticism of Fox News is always welcome here. Well said.
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larsvanness
April 14, 2010 10:38 AM in reply to Brownbagger
Fov News? Isn't that the epitome of oxymoron? All the news that's fit to s**t?
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Brownbagger
April 14, 2010 11:08 AM in reply to larsvanness
Actually, among our herd of trolls, Peashooter is in my opinion relatively sane. I think he'd admit Fox is more propaganda than news. What say, Shooter?
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mcrose68
April 13, 2010 12:50 PM in reply to shooter242
If we have to use a little satire to get racists biggots and mass murdering wanna-bes to feel self-conscious about their racism, biggotry, and desire to kill . . . I say bring on the satire.
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JEP07
April 13, 2010 1:05 PM in reply to shooter242
Shooter, and barney, where were you guys when they passed the patriot act and dismantled habeas corpus?
When you REALLY had rights being taken away, where WERE you patriots? Or is freedom like democracy to you guys, as long as republicans rule, anything goes, but put a Dem in charge and along come the 'baggers.
WHERE WERE THESE PHONY PATRIOTS WHEN THEIR RIGHTS WERE REALLY BEING VIOLATED?
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The Decider
April 13, 2010 1:42 PM in reply to JEP07
The difference is that they knew they could trust me to violate their rights for their own good.
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CityGuy
April 13, 2010 4:12 PM in reply to The Decider
You are correct again Decider!
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 5:42 PM in reply to The Decider
Truly you are a uniter, not a divider!
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PushMe-PullYou
April 13, 2010 8:04 PM in reply to The Decider
I heart The Decider!
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Forrest
April 13, 2010 2:10 PM in reply to shooter242
"Formenting (sic) unrest by deceit and deception is the gameplan, and you are all proud of it."
I really really hope you see the irony in this statement.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 2:14 PM in reply to shooter242
This is how a lot of them operate. What Levin is doing is borderline fascistic: he's trying to stifle debate rather than encourage it.
If you're a Dem partisan hack, what he's doing is great.
If you care about the future of the U.S. and you want to see debate and not attempts to stifle it, then what he's doing (and what TPM is helping him with) isn't so great.
And, all of this is happening despite how easy it would be to discredit the tea partiers, if only the Dems weren't almost as dumb as they are.
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psyclone
April 13, 2010 2:22 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Funny how when it's the teabaggers shouting down people at town hall meetings, that's 'speaking up', but Levin outcrazying the crazy people shouting down people at town hall meetings is 'stifling dissent'.
I think we all know who the real partisan hack here is.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 10:29 PM in reply to psyclone
If psyclone weren't as dumb as a partier, it would have at least tried to read and understand the link in my comment (even if it needed to get help from smarter people). It would have noticed that I've posted dozens of posts opposing throwing tantrums, as well as dozens of comments around the web.
The only reason the partiers aren't already simply a nearly-forgotten blip is because their opponents who have megaphones are almost as dumb as they are.
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skitzo
April 13, 2010 3:09 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
We don't want to see "debate" for its own sake. We want intelligent debate. Just because opinions are like assholes and everyone has one, doesn't mean that we have to pay attention to ignorant and uninformed opinions, manipulated by propaganda.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 10:30 PM in reply to skitzo
It's not 100% clear, but I suspect you don't understand the concept of free speech.
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phalamir
April 14, 2010 1:24 AM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
No one said the baggers couldn't say whatever they want. No one is censoring them. It is called satire - you out-crazy the crazy to point out he's a complete f*cktard. If he's got the right to spout like a dumb-ass, I have the right to spout like a bigger dumb-ass - and call him my friend so that everyone understands he's a dumb-ass. Truth in advertising is not censorship.
If the point was stop free speech, one would show up with a gun and use it - sans that, it is spirited debate and sublime mocking; the baggers threatening to pull guns on people are the anti-free speech cadre - which, considering they are treasonous terroistic douche-nozzles makes perfect sense.
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JNagarya
April 14, 2010 1:38 AM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Every right is limited by inextricably entwined responsibility. That applies also to freedom of speech. And in some instances, the responsibility part of it is enforced.
One can choose to be responsible; or one can choose to undermine the equivalent right in others by lying, smearing, making absurd allegations, and doing anything but discuss and debate.
If you have a right not to be defrauded by means of lying, then the lying is indefensible.
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 4:28 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Riiiiight. The "fascists" are the guys making fun of your guys. Sensitive much?
How well I remember Hitler's SA Brownshirts and their relentless mocking. Oh, no, wait, that was breaking heads and attacking with clubs. Are you SURE that it was the fascists who were making fug of people? Because I remember different.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 10:34 PM in reply to Daddy Love
If you weren't a complete idiot you'd realize they aren't my guys. And, they are explicitly trying to stifle speech; read what Levin wants to do again. His goals are the goals of fascists throughout history, in spirit if not in deed.
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rlkinny
April 13, 2010 5:51 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Levin's not stifling the debate. He's putting a spotlight on it. If it were out of character, you'd be able to spot it right away. He won't be trying to talk over you and stifle debate. He'll be echoing what you say and do.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 10:35 PM in reply to rlkinny
Ditto.
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mcjam
April 13, 2010 7:27 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Holding up a mirror to their insanity and ugliness hardly ranks as fascism, you melodramatic nancy boy.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 10:37 PM in reply to mcjam
I don't know why "mcjam" is referring to me using an English anti-gay slur, but the other members of TPM might want to ask "mcjam" why he's using an English anti-gay slur in the first place.
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RKT
April 13, 2010 8:00 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
The fallacy in your argument is that the Tea Party is engaging in debate. Actually, it is engaged in nothing more than inflammatory sloganeering. I'll reconsider the first time I hear a Teabagger offer anything meaningful or intelligent into the public discourse. Remember, the out-crazy-the-crazies strategy would not work if the crazies weren't truly crazy.
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justaJ0e
April 13, 2010 10:26 PM in reply to RKT
Very very true.
Any attempts I have had with debating (or just discussing) Tea Baggers ends in them simply spewing forth talking points. When you ask for details they change the topic. When you corner them with facts, they resort to talking about how awful Bill Clinton was.
Tea Baggers have no interest in debate.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 13, 2010 10:41 PM in reply to RKT
Yes, I understand. You're in favor of free speech - of course! - you just want it to be the "right kind" of free speech. Of course!
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Dizzy Izzy
April 14, 2010 11:40 AM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
It seems you're the one against free speech. Why can't I go wherever I want and say whatever I want?
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jeffgee
April 13, 2010 5:00 PM in reply to shooter242
Was it OK with you when O'Keefe and his pal dressed like phone men and tried to bug Sen. Landrieu's office?
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mJJ
April 13, 2010 7:15 PM in reply to jeffgee
If you do not realize that i twas an illegal act, I guess there is no way to rationally discuss the issue with you. Breaking the law is never right. But this guy is going to join a bunch of people acting nutty and he is going to act nutty. Not illegal at all. But it does not surprise me that far right folks do not get the truly illegal nature of the visit to the Senator's office. It was totally criminal in fact! It is that double standard that is ruining our Republican Party in this neocon era. You may find that you have chased away all the moderate Republicans and then, let us see how many elections you win?
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John
April 13, 2010 10:34 PM in reply to jeffgee
Being nutty, within reason, is a Constitutional right whereas trespassing is not.
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Jesus H. Christ
April 13, 2010 11:51 PM in reply to shooter242
foment, not forment.
or is it faux-ment
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AJM
April 14, 2010 9:44 AM in reply to shooter242
Aw gee, why dump on the idea of tea-bagging the tea baggers?
They come out to cause disruption and you want to argue that it is bad and evul if we disrupt them? If they don't like the signs carried they can come object. They lie about what we are saying and doing and you have a problem if we lie about them?
They claim that they are not responsible for the signs the crazies in their crowd carry. Okay then, why should they object to our signs? If they police the signs and censor ours but not the racist ones this shows that they didn't have a problem with the racist ones in the first place.
I'd rather have a sane discussion but if you are going to complain that HCR has death panels I'll maintain that you think HCR kills cats because they carry diseases. Save the puppies from HCR!
Don't seem to like your own medicine much, do you?
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lotl
April 14, 2010 8:05 PM in reply to AJM
"They lie about what we are saying and doing and you have a problem if we lie about them?"
Yes. Two wrongs don't make a right, but it's a matter of degree. Satirizing them is one thing, although really it's too easy--low-hanging fruit. But actually stooping to their level makes us no better than them. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 8:07 PM in reply to lotl
thought I edited out that first instance of 2 wrongs. doh.
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AJM
April 14, 2010 8:32 PM in reply to lotl
The 'you' in the post is Shooter who is basically a tea-bag and the intention was to point out to him the degree to which he was demanding that we play by different rules than he applied to himself. The Tea baggers generally have been disclaiming the more offensive of their signs but these are, I judge, in fact the opinions of a significant portion of the Tea Baggers both as shown by the polls recounted over at 538 and the emails sent by their dear leader over in NY.
I react badly to situations in which there is one set of rules for one side and another for the other. I did hesitate before posting this because you are in fact correct that two wrongs don't make a right.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 9:02 PM in reply to AJM
I do understand your point though. Thanks for replying.
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Dizzy Izzy
April 14, 2010 11:37 AM in reply to shooter242
"Formenting?" I may have to use that on my sign!
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Mateo123
April 13, 2010 3:19 PM in reply to Lucieann
The tea partiers impact public opinion. Look at the health care debate. The American public agrees with most elements of the health care proposals. Yet, once the tea partiers crashed Congressional town halls, support for the bills tanked.
Yes, they are radical. Yes they seem outside of the mainstream. But, yes, they are influential. How did Scott Brown win? Anything the counter-demonstrations can do to make them less influential is great, from my perspective.
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NBlanchette
April 14, 2010 9:49 AM in reply to Lucieann
The majority of the comments on this page read like there from a bunch of silly petty children. If the Tea Party is as bad as you say they are, why do you need to resort to trickery to discredit them. Could it be your intimidated by them? And what about our most basic of values called free speech. Is this what the Obama election has turned us into. Pretty disgusting if you ask me.
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morriganinoregon
April 14, 2010 11:06 AM in reply to Lucieann
it is a hoax, here is the Whois for the original site
66.96.130.99 is enduranceinternational.com
CEO? "Steven "Steve" Sydness (born c. 1956) is a politician and businessman who was a North Dakota Republican Party candidate for one of North Dakota's United States Senate seats in 1992, and is the current CEO of the Endurance International Group in Massachusetts.[1]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sydness.
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mcc
April 13, 2010 11:32 AM
First off, this is redundant, like trying to warm the sun. YOU CAN'T TROLL FREE REPUBLIC. IT'S ALREADY MADE OF TROLL.
Second off, simply by publicly announcing he's going to do this he defeats his own very tiny purpose, because the impact of tea party madness is muted. Tea partiers ALREADY try to brush off their own crazy elements by pretending that they're actually INFILTRATING LIBERAL SPIES, the existence of one self-proclaimed INFILTRATING LIBERAL SPY that they can point to in a chain e-mail will instantly prove to them no tea partiers have ever done anything embarrassing ever.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
April 13, 2010 12:20 PM in reply to mcc
Exactly. Thank you.
This will be proof, proof positive, that any bad act committed by a teabagger was actual committed by an agent of ACORN or Goldstein or S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or whoever. These idiots have just given the baggers a free pass for what would otherwise be movement-destroying excesses that will inevitably come.
Indeed, now that these fools have validated their paranoia, I expect the idea that the Teabaggers were infiltrated by SMERSH or THRUSH or the DNC Special Commando units or whoever will become so firmly embedded in the wingnut worldview that it'll be required material for Texas school textbooks within the next three years.
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Economides
April 13, 2010 1:27 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
How to out crazy the crazies:
If they say his a socialists, we'll say no he's an ex-pee-al-a-doscialist.
If they says he's an alien, we'll say no, he's a space alien from Rigel-9.
If they called him a N---. we'll call him a Strawberry Milkshake.
If they say he wants to kill your grandmother, we'll say he wants to kill your hockey puck collection.
If they say he's Hitler, we'll say, no he's Bomulex from Rigel-9, and that's not a mustache but a nasal appendage that allows him to breathe underwater since everyone knows Rigel-9 is entirely covered by liquid Methane.
It's going to be out-of-this world nuts!
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MagicNumbers
April 13, 2010 1:43 PM in reply to Economides
I love it!
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kenga
April 13, 2010 3:21 PM in reply to Economides
Episode IV: Revenge of Firesign Theater
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jeffgee
April 13, 2010 5:09 PM in reply to kenga
How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?
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The Naturalist's Attitude
April 13, 2010 6:57 PM in reply to kenga
Nice Firesign Theater reference. That shit is classic.
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Jesus H. Christ
April 13, 2010 11:54 PM in reply to The Naturalist's Attitude
I don't know if he's wealthy but isn't he married to Celia Hodes?
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dudeguy
April 13, 2010 2:13 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
NCSteve: Exactly right. It's a get out of jail free card. Free scapegoat. Thumbs down.
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slb
April 13, 2010 3:13 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
...required material for Texas school textbooks within the next three years.
I know I shouldn't laugh at this, because it's almost too true, but I couldn't help myself.
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Jon from Chicago
April 13, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to mcc
I don't know, the more I think about this the more I think its brilliant. With the website and the Hannity press, the tea baggers will be on the lookout for infiltrators, ready to string them up. This guy need not send ANY real infiltrators. There will be plenty of uber crazies there, who the "main strea'm baggers will assume are infiltrators, and turn on them en masse, causing unrest within the ranks. I'm sure you know that paranoia is in no short supply at these gatherings. They'll be feeding on their own young! Just sit back and watch the carnage! Again, brilliant!!
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davcbr
April 13, 2010 1:20 PM in reply to mcc
I think the most delightful aspect of this whole thing is the possibility [ make that "probability' ] that a group will notice someone that seems to them to be a little too wacko and start to push him out. What happens when it really IS a wacko. These phonies can't be everywhere.
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CityGuy
April 13, 2010 11:34 AM
But.... How is a normal, sane-thinking individual gonna tell the difference between the REAL Teanuts, and the FAUX Teanuts? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Barney
April 13, 2010 11:37 AM
...but...but...but...I thought this was just a story concocted by the Tea Partiers to give themselves cover for when one of their own does act up..
These sad, pathetic, desperate little fascist libtards are a never-ending source of amusement
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Lestatdelc
April 13, 2010 1:03 PM in reply to Barney
Your incoherent rants, constant whining and tears of defeat are delicious. Every day that you post your nonsense is another small confirmation about how defeated you really are.
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lousgirl84
April 13, 2010 1:12 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
Co-sign
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Mary Alice
April 13, 2010 4:51 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
You talkin' to ME?
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JEP07
April 13, 2010 1:08 PM in reply to Barney
"desperate little"
bet some of us are a lot bigger than you, Barn. Why is it these teamob conservatives see liberals as "little" people?
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vinquus
April 13, 2010 1:23 PM in reply to Barney
I just love how right-wingers claim to be against fascism now... though I suspect if they looked it up in a dictionary they might not be.
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 5:47 PM in reply to Barney
Thank you for bringing it to the attention of TPM so they could run off and actually interview the guy and see what the story really was, barney. You know, actually act like journalists and not run with assumptions like Fox...
By the way, I notice you still haven't run to the story anout the guy who send around those emails to defend him from what you claimed was a smear...
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ami_in_deutschland
April 13, 2010 11:37 AM
Though I've gotta praise the Banksy-esque style of their plan, doesn't it kill the point of it if everyone knows about it in advance?
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Powkat
April 13, 2010 11:50 AM in reply to ami_in_deutschland
No, because the real teabaggers won't know if the guy next to them is a plant or real. They will begin to mistrust everyone (easy step for folks with a paranoid bent) and never be sure if they should shout agreement with whatever outrageous sentiment is expressed or deny it as coming from a plant. I foresee a few heads exploding.
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LeaningLeft
April 13, 2010 12:18 PM in reply to Powkat
That's what I was thinking. I can easily see a fight breaking out between 2 of these ignorant, toothless, wife beater wearing, rednecks, each calling the other a liberal plant. You can tell when the fist are about to fly when you hear the redneck battle cry, "You think you're better than me?"
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expat46
April 13, 2010 1:49 PM in reply to LeaningLeft
LOL...redneck battle cry.
What a hoot! This is the best thread ever.
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Jackster
April 13, 2010 1:49 PM in reply to LeaningLeft
"You think you're better than me?"
NAILED IT!
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PushMe-PullYou
April 13, 2010 8:12 PM in reply to Jackster
I'm a better American than you are!
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Satorist
April 13, 2010 1:15 PM in reply to Powkat
Exactly. Once you've announced what you're going to do, you don't really even need to show up; just sit home and watch the fistfights between the delusional paranoids and the seriously insane. Conversely, just to spoil the fun of Leftists, they all might start emulating moderate Republicans (when there were Republican moderates).
Win/win.
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Powkat
April 13, 2010 2:37 PM in reply to Satorist
Never happen - the last moderate Republican died in 1998.
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WaitWut?
April 13, 2010 1:26 PM in reply to Powkat
They already don't trust each other. It cracks me up while stalking the TPN site how often they'll accuse each other of being trolls or paid Obama plants (I want that job), often for just questioning a ridiculous email that someone has reposted with "WARNING: VERY IMPORTANT STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!" as the heading.
It's fun to watch. I'm not sure I understand this guy's reasoning, but it will definitely increase their paranoia.
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FreeForAll
April 13, 2010 11:54 AM in reply to ami_in_deutschland
I think it would kill their plan if the infiltrators identified themselves.
The genius of announcing it is that they won't need that many infiltrators- the wackos won't know who is or isn't a spy and will have to suspect everyone but the truly dangerous ones.
This should cause greater internal turmoil as true tea partiers get accused of being infiltrator trolls.
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Barney
April 13, 2010 12:03 PM in reply to FreeForAll
No, because the real teabaggers won't know if the guy next to them is a plant or real
Sure we will. If you act like a racist nutbag, you're obviously a plant.
it's that easy
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mcrose68
April 13, 2010 12:20 PM in reply to Barney
That's the point of civil society, to make the haters believe their hate will make them unpopular.
At first I thought this was a sill idea - deception is so uncool.
But as long as it gets you tea-baggers to start making racist biggots and crazies feel unwelcome, I think we're headed in the right direction.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 12:30 PM in reply to mcrose68
You can also tell Teanuts because they are never ever clever, funny, or informed, just like our very own admitted Teanut -- sad, pathetic Barney.
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JEP07
April 13, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to Brownbagger
I think Barney is a fake teabagger, and when he shows up at their next meeting, he's toast!
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JEP07
April 13, 2010 1:02 PM in reply to JEP07
If he attacks the first bigot he sees as a liberal, he'd beter hope that bigoted 'bagger's not packin'!
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 1:21 PM in reply to JEP07
I've thought the same thing, seriously. No one could be as vapid as he appears to be. Notice how his posts are never informed, funny, or clever? It's just too obvious he's trying to shine a bright white light on Teanuttery. Nice job, Barney. You are clever after all.
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mcrose68
April 13, 2010 6:06 PM in reply to Brownbagger
I'm just surprised Barney got out on bail so soon, after dropping all those pipe-bombs down in Texas.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 6:13 PM in reply to mcrose68
Well, he's either commenting from jail ... or it's another Barney faking being the fake Barney that fakes being a Teanut.
I have a headache.
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kunda311
April 13, 2010 1:02 PM in reply to Brownbagger
This infiltration could be a really great thing for intelligent non-teabaggers everywhere. In fact, it seems to already be working, simply by watering the seeds of paranoia and reality-suspension that teabaggers have already planted in themselves.
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Barry Ragin
April 13, 2010 12:21 PM in reply to Barney
Funniest. Comment. Ever.
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Jon from Chicago
April 13, 2010 1:00 PM in reply to Barney
Psshhhh... you give yourself and your kind WAAAAYYYYYY too much credit. Go iron your white robes and hood, tax day is coming!
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KdNicewanger
April 13, 2010 1:18 PM in reply to Barney
Acutally, no. That's called "blending in."
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vinquus
April 13, 2010 1:28 PM in reply to Barney
Crikey, John Derbyshire's gonna get his ass kicked...
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pv2k
April 13, 2010 1:34 PM in reply to Barney
Sure we will. If you act like a racist nutbag, you're obviously a plant.
So you're a plant?
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Jackster
April 13, 2010 1:52 PM in reply to Barney
Then the plants must have been there all along.
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 2:21 PM in reply to Barney
Barney, you're a PLANT!??!
You really did fool me.
No, wait. Come to think of it, you have always sort of reminded me of stinkweed.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 6:16 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Really? I always thought slime mold.
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 4:35 PM in reply to Barney
Actually, it's "If you act like a racist nutbag, and you're not me, then you're obviously a plant."
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BobsNotWorking
April 13, 2010 5:08 PM in reply to Barney
See? It is already working!
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Common Sense
April 13, 2010 6:48 PM in reply to Barney
Thanks, Barney. Finally an adult on this comment stream. The rest of you, brush your teeth and get into bed. It's past your bedtime. You have kindergarten tomorrow.
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Publishermike
April 13, 2010 11:40 AM
What if Levin is actually a tea partier who is posing as a liberal who is posing as a tea partier, with the purpose of setting up a firewall for the teabaggers. To wit: Authentic Crazy Teabagger "John Birch" shows up with a misspelled sign saying Obama wants to perform "retreoactivist abortatations" on your "grammaw" and that he learned it when he went to "Muslin skool" in "Africanibia" where he was born. Other teabagger can point to Levin's "charade" and say that "John Birch" is just a plant, when the truth is that he represents more than 65% of the true tea party position.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 11:43 AM in reply to Publishermike
That crossed my mind, but ... naaaaaaaaaaaah. Too simple.
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theCakes
April 13, 2010 11:36 PM in reply to Publishermike
Check out the actual website, which basically consists of a message board that is too ridiculous to be true. Smells like a hoax to me.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 11:41 AM
They ARE a gathering of crazy people. But, perhaps the actual Teanuts will turn on each other. That would be fun to see. One pasty pink dude whacking another tubby Teanut with his "N****r Nashun" sign and tubby whacking back with his "Sho us yer birth sertificat" sign.
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Chris
April 13, 2010 11:52 AM in reply to Brownbagger
Yes completely crazy. Most will do their Revolutionary! protesting thing on their way home from cashing their disability check, or their Social Security check, or their unemployment check, or on their way home from their Medicare-paid doctor's visit.
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Cornelius
April 13, 2010 12:24 PM in reply to Brownbagger
What an image! Let's add the wives, encouraging their spouses, yelling "kill him, kill him"! And then they turn on each other, two heffers rolling around in the hot sun of a Walmart parking lot.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 1:26 PM in reply to Cornelius
LOL... good visual.
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Beautiful Mind of Barbara Bush
April 13, 2010 12:27 PM in reply to Brownbagger
I imagine them wedged tightly into their lawn chairs, a/k/a protest thrones, swinging their stubby arms and legs with increasing frustration that they can't make contact with their enemy, until they tip over, necessitating a trip in a gubbermint ambulance, still wedged in their chairs, mewling and puking all the way to the gubbermint hospital.
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Cornelius
April 13, 2010 4:59 PM in reply to Beautiful Mind of Barbara Bush
Perfect. I'd go back to church if I could get that on video. Well, maybe.
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Kevin Sutton
April 13, 2010 11:47 AM
It's completely obvious that Jason Levin is secretly a tea partier pretending to be a fake tea partier to discredit the notion that fake tea partiers are fake.
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jheartney
April 13, 2010 12:21 PM in reply to Kevin Sutton
Kevin Sutton's comment wins the thread.
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 12:32 PM in reply to jheartney
Let's just hope it's not the fake Kevin Sutton.
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Rick Jones
April 13, 2010 1:14 PM in reply to Brownbagger
If Levin is boggling the minds of the people on this thread, just think what his idea is doing to the teabaggers.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 1:40 PM in reply to Rick Jones
Nah, they use very simple logic, read Barney's comments above. Anything considered over the top must be an infiltrator. I can't wait to see video of these guys 'calling the cops' on each other.
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 2:26 PM in reply to expat46
I, too, love the mental picture of them calling the cops on the "fake" crazies. And the cops will do ... what? What crimes will the "fake" teabaggers be committing that the "real" teabaggers won't?
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AZskeptic
April 14, 2010 10:10 AM in reply to expat46
the only problem is, what do you think they will think is over the top?
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bmmg39
April 14, 2010 1:44 PM in reply to Rick Jones
Do you use homophobic slurs to defame EVERYBODY you dislike, or just the Tea Party activists. Gosh, and here I was thinking the left was just so darned tolerant.
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Chris
April 13, 2010 11:48 AM
Infiltrate or not, when do we finally get to call setting up an armed militia to block federal rule treason??
Maybe I'm a little gruff with this one but please read. I think our time is better spent at standing up to it rather than infiltrating.
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Walter Mitty
April 13, 2010 11:51 AM
So now Fox and Co can say any racist sign is just a liberal infiltrator? Of course Fox is already saying that anyways.
Or Levin has no plans to infiltrate, but will make tea baggers turn on each other, because they'll be accusing each other of being phony plants and it will tear apart from the inside.
Maybe they'll give out membership cards to teabaggers to guard against this.
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mcrose68
April 13, 2010 12:34 PM in reply to Walter Mitty
Completely aside from the electoral politics, I think it would be a good thing if Fox and the Teabaggers would stop glorifying racism, biggotry, and violence.
Teabaggers have been operating in an environment where each was trying to out-outrage the other - this has resulted in an environment where the more outrageous your claim the more of a hero you could be.
Now, maybe, if someone says they are going to take a gun and start killing people, maybe, just maybe some Teabags will think he's a plant and call the police on him.
It will make the Teabags less frightening to a lot of people, but it would reduce the feeling of rightiousness (perception of popular support) felt by the crazies that have started to come out of the wood-work.
Aside from what this may or may not do to the narrative that Fox puts out, it will encourage Teabags to hold up a mirror an ask if t
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Glix
April 13, 2010 12:09 PM
I like this plan. Since the baggers are already claiming they've been infiltrated, we might as well feed their paranoia a little bit more. Personally, I wouldn't even bother to infiltrate them as just the threat is enough to start the feeding frenzy.
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storm
April 13, 2010 12:09 PM
i've thought for a while that the teahadists are klingons. i don't think calling him an alien will cause much of a stir.
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sean
April 13, 2010 12:13 PM
Good luck finding enough overweight, elderly liberals to play teahadis...
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Sparkly Pinecone
April 13, 2010 12:57 PM in reply to sean
My thought exactly! Non-teabaggers (meaning, the rest of the country) are too healthy-looking, as a demographic. I am thinking padded suits? Pancake makeup? Scraggly wigs?
Takes more than a "muslin" sign a teabagger to make.
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Helpcomputer
April 13, 2010 2:03 PM in reply to Sparkly Pinecone
Nah, they can just cover up their healthy, flabitis-free bodies with heavy American flag jackets, large American flag fanny packs, and red, white, and blue fright wigs. They can fit right in.
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 2:29 PM in reply to Helpcomputer
Polyester stretch pants for everyone.
And BTW, I'm living proof that not all liberals are flab-free.
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lousgirl84
April 13, 2010 3:11 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Correction: Plaid polyester pants, thank you very much....
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Cornelius
April 13, 2010 6:22 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Hey Obamabot,that's a cheap shot! I look pretty dam good in my plaid polyester pants with my Budweiser tee shirt. Can't tuck it in anymore but got most of the chili stains out.
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lousgirl84
April 13, 2010 10:39 PM in reply to Cornelius
Gee I love when you call me Obamabot.....it is the ultimate compliment...... but that visual was a bit much I must admit...lol.
BTW, our President is rocking on the loose nukes and diplomacy. This is what changes looks like my friend. This is SERIOUS CHANGE from the Bush Administration, serious change. Our President has the respect of world leaders and that is major. Bush & Co almost destroyed the entire world not just this country and now we have an enormously respected President. We are headed in the right direction and we need to keep the assholes out of power because, hopefully, even you have to admit this would be a set back of major proportions to allow them back in in any shape or form
Goodnight and good luck. (I couldn't help myself).
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lotl
April 14, 2010 9:00 PM in reply to Sparkly Pinecone
Way to indulge in stereotyping. Agism and size-ism in one fell swoop. I've seen plenty of average-size people in teabagger photos and videos, as well as younger folk. And like Cal Gal says, there are liberals who are on the larger side. (I'll bet you're zaftig, Cal Gal, not "flabby.") As out there as the mindset of most of the 'baggers is, I get really disgusted with these kinds of sweeping generalities about their physical appearance.
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Sparkly Pinecone
April 15, 2010 6:48 PM in reply to lotl
Oh, you're right. Guilty as charged. I indulged in looksism, but I'll try not to do it again. (And yes, with an angry grimace and a flag sweater, I might blend right in.)
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Nandemosan
April 13, 2010 12:14 PM
Nothing "ingenious" about this plan. If one of their own is potentially a plant they'll think twice about saying some of the stupid shit they do now making them, perhaps over time, seem more reasonable.
No. They are doing a pretty good job of making themselves look like idiots with their "leaders" setting the best example.
This effort has "counter-productive" written all over it.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 9:11 PM in reply to Nandemosan
That's pretty much my take on it. Even if some of the foot soldiers don't respond that way, I'd expect the leaders, who seem to be a bit more savvy than the rest, will certainly try to tone things down. TPM has already reported on that Oklahoma group trying to revamp its image for the tax day protests.
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Nicnack74
April 13, 2010 12:16 PM
My only fear is Stockholm Syndrome.
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jimson
April 13, 2010 12:16 PM
You know. . . he doesn't even HAVE to do it, now that it's been publicized-- they will suspect many of their own and maybe turn on each other thinking they are rooting out infiltrators. If a riot or violence does break out he could claim that "we weren't even AT that particular event, in fact we never actually infiltrated, just said we would-- so all the violence is 100% homegrown tea-party madness."
All I really want to know is, if the tea-partiers think things are bad now, if Mccain/Palin had been elected, how would things be different, what exactly would the USA look like? Would it really be better, or just LOOK better to them since Obama isn't in the White House.
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TS_nj
April 13, 2010 12:31 PM in reply to jimson
Bingo. I had the same thoughts. Insert paranoia into an already frenzied paranoid group, implosion is practically inevitable. It's genius, really.
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Mr.E.
April 13, 2010 12:33 PM in reply to jimson
My thoughts also. You tell the teabaggers they've been infiltrated, then send sealed letters to the press specifically stating which rallies you WON'T attend (of course, that may not be accurate). Paranoia increases, and you are bound to end up with fights among teabaggers, and if the media, which loves a conflict, does what they do best, they will interview the fighters separately, and each will swear allegiance to being a true teabagging patriot and the OTHER GUY was a plant, making the number of crazies seem double.
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swaragirl
April 13, 2010 1:05 PM in reply to jimson
I agree with this. I think that the leader of the counter movement should publish his infiltration intentions far and wide... and then not send anyone to infiltrate.
Mean, but all sorts of fun to watch.
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rbeats
April 13, 2010 12:18 PM
Its what the FEDS do during anti-war protests.
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jprestonian
April 13, 2010 12:28 PM
Yeah. It's not even necessary to actually do the infiltration, now. Announcing that it was planned was more than enough.
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theFont
April 13, 2010 12:29 PM
Something doesn't add up.
I'm thinking it is either:
1) A Tea Party tactic to shield themselves from accusations that they are radical.
OR
2) A clever pysch job by Levin to make the Tea Partiers more paranoid and sowing suspicion and discord amongst their ranks.
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Knothead Jake
April 13, 2010 12:33 PM
If you can step through a hula hoop and not have it catch on your big ears, hydrocephelus head, cankles or your beer belly you're an infiltrator. And that's just the women.
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Astroboy
April 13, 2010 4:13 PM in reply to Knothead Jake
ROFLMAO!
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Backcountry
April 13, 2010 12:37 PM
Well, I don't really think this will work -- as much as I'm hoping that SOMETHING will stick and discredit the Teabaggers.
One of the main Rethuglican tactics is to rewrite history. For instance, there's a huge movement afoot to deny that anyone called out the N-word at Democratic lawmakers on afternoon of the House vote on the health care bill. Liberal "conspiracies" such as this will only give them more cover for crazy stuff -- another reason not to believe any one of them is really crazy. "It's the liberals who infiltrated us who did the crazy stuff."
But mainly I don't think this will work because too few liberals will really be willing to attend a tea bag event and act like one of the natives. I couldn't stand to do it myself.
So it probably won't work but it probably will work to give the tea baggers some cover.
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Basspotamus
April 13, 2010 12:40 PM
Great, so now everytime a teabagger really does something stupid, they'll blame infiltrators. Nice work, jackass
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JEP07
April 13, 2010 12:53 PM in reply to Basspotamus
They were doing just that already...
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Samsinister
April 13, 2010 12:43 PM
Hilarious and wonderful. Agitprop is its own reward, but the results of this one can't miss anyway.
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Barney
April 13, 2010 12:46 PM
Left wing mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, sub-human retards savagely beat Jindal fundraiser and her boyfriend on the street in NO..
...for wearing Palin pins..
...seriously...for wearing Palin pins
Allee Bautsch suffered broken leg, broken teeth, broken jaw and other injuries
http://thehayride.com/2010/04/the-brennans-beatdown-piecing-together-a-story/
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JEP07
April 13, 2010 12:51 PM in reply to Barney
Barney, you do know that there is strong evidence that those bullies were hired by a right wing think tank, don't you?
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Lestatdelc
April 13, 2010 1:05 PM in reply to Barney
Your tantrums about how mean us liberals are, only confirm how much of a crybaby "conservatives" really are.
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Basspotamus
April 13, 2010 1:25 PM in reply to Barney
I bet they got beat up by Ashley Todd
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KdNicewanger
April 13, 2010 1:26 PM in reply to Barney
"Baton Rougeans Allee Bautsch and Jodee Niswanger got to hang out with actress Jane Fonda (far left) recently at the W Bar in New Orleans. Fonda was in town participating in the star-studded production of The Vagina Monologues. Fonda asked Bautsch for a sip of her strawberry mojito and liked it so much she ordered one of her own."
http://www.225batonrouge.com/news/2008/apr/30/whispers/
Bahaha, you lose.
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slb
April 13, 2010 3:41 PM in reply to KdNicewanger
Umm -- you do know that story is from 2008, yes?
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psyclone
April 13, 2010 2:31 PM in reply to Barney
I bet they were beat up by teabagger plants
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 2:33 PM in reply to Barney
Those were Tea Bag INFILTRATORS who beat those people up. Real liberals don't do that sort of thing. When someone gets angry and uses their fists, it's is OBVIOUS it is a rightwinger doing it.
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skitzo
April 13, 2010 3:38 PM in reply to Barney
Must have been a bunch of grad students from Tulane, out on the town. Rowdies all.
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 4:47 PM in reply to Barney
Well, the latest update at that URL states that the two were not wearing Palin pins at all. I think we may have to wait to find out what really happened there.
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morriganinoregon
April 13, 2010 5:17 PM in reply to Daddy Love
did they have a backwards scratched "B" on their faces?
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Prof Wagstaff
April 13, 2010 5:13 PM in reply to Barney
Maybe they beat up themselves. Teabagger ain't too bright.
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slb
April 13, 2010 5:33 PM in reply to Prof Wagstaff
That is a terrible thing to say. You might break your own nose, but I don't know of anyone who has ever broken his/her own leg. And I don't know of too many people who would actually ask someone else to do it just as a political stunt. I especially don't know of anyone who would elect to have their teeth broken.
Someone attacked this couple; what is not yet known is who it was and why. Why don't we stop pointing fingers until we know a few more facts, huh?
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jeffgee
April 13, 2010 5:14 PM in reply to Barney
Here comes Barney again, bellying up to the blog, belching loudly and never adding anything useful to the conversation.
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slb
April 13, 2010 5:28 PM in reply to Barney
This incident is truly horrific, and whoever is responsible for it, I hope the police find them and that they are severely punished for it. I sincerely hope it is not someone who purports to be on the left, but whoever it is should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
That said, if there does turn out to be some political motivation, whether it is from the left or from another faction of the right, I still blame the right for the escalation of the rhetoric and the violent imagery they alone have been using in the last year. It is not the left who has been saying things like "target them," "crush them," "wipe them out"; it is not the left talking about revolution and watering the tree of liberty with blood; and it is not the left coming to political rallies sporting guns and signs advocating the use of them against the political opposition. You cannot create such a fevered and angry climate and not expect it to come back and bite you.
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clif
April 13, 2010 8:02 PM in reply to Barney
...for wearing Palin pins..
...seriously...for wearing Palin pins
NOT TRUE
First, Jindal spokesman Kyle Plotkin tells us that Alle Bautsch was not wearing a Palin pin. And neither was Joe Brown. So that’s an allegation which has been disputed.
Lie #1 disputed by your own linked story, wanna try some more lying?
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 8:27 PM in reply to clif
You're never supposed to click the links on a Barney Link, dammit! How could you do more research than he does!
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flounder
April 13, 2010 12:48 PM
I did this at the last April 15 tea tantrum. I brought a sign with a big chart of every recent president's contribution the debt and the message "you can't spell generational theft without an R". It was pretty fun. I also got video of the teabaggers not standing or putting their hand on their heart during the national anthem.
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fkaZk0sm0
April 13, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to flounder
you're doing it wrong.
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Bat Guano
April 13, 2010 12:49 PM
It's Chicago '68 all over again! Everyone knows that agents of Nixon were spurring confusion and violence, disguised as acid-crazed hippies, to derail Humphrey!
I'm not saying it is known who is REALLY behind this effort, but what is known is the unknown, and the easily-manipulated will prove easily-manipulated...
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Peter Principle
April 13, 2010 12:57 PM
Exaggerating teabagger stupidity and insanity? Now THAT'S going to be tough.
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Rick Jones
April 13, 2010 1:11 PM in reply to Peter Principle
It's from the Department of Redundancy Department.
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to Rick Jones
OMG, LOL from down Memory Lane.
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svrkevi
April 13, 2010 1:00 PM
Eh, sounds fun. Now I'm going to post some crazy stuff on tea part message boards..muhahahahaha
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stefsstuff
April 13, 2010 1:11 PM
Levin doesn't actually have to do anything. He only has to say that he's going to do something and that,obviously, has the baggers in a tizzie.
They will be accusing each other of being infiltrators and there will be no trust amongst them.
This ought to be fun to watch.
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several
April 13, 2010 1:14 PM
Well this guy clearly doesn't play chess. No ability to look ahead to the next move.
All this will do is to give the Tea Party the ability to say "The crazy fringy people aren't ours! They're liberal infiltrators trying to discredit our movement!"
These bozos need no help at all looking extreme and fringy. All you need to make them look extreme are cameras and microphones pointed at them. You wanna discredit them just show up with vid cam and interview them and post the results.
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Barney
April 13, 2010 1:23 PM in reply to several
Tea Partiers are playing Grand Master level, three dimensional, chess..
Levin and the drooling imbecile leftards can't even figure out how to open the Checkers box
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howie911
April 13, 2010 1:59 PM in reply to Barney
"Tea Partiers are playing Grand Master level, three dimensional, chess.."
You misspelled delusional... you had dimensional.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 2:04 PM in reply to Barney
See you at the Tea Party Barney. But, how will we recognize each other?
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Barney
April 13, 2010 2:34 PM in reply to expat46
I'll be the one that all the chicks are tossing their panties at..
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expat46
April 13, 2010 3:03 PM in reply to Barney
haha... Somehow I doubt it. Unless they think you're going to do the laundry. Easy on the starch there you 'hunk of burning love'
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Brownbagger
April 13, 2010 6:22 PM in reply to expat46
I always new Barney fucked chickens.
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DuaneW
April 13, 2010 6:44 PM in reply to Barney
It looks like Barney is a LOSER with the chicks. Good job revealing yourself with this comment. HA! HA! HA! In your dreams!
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Dave Adams
April 13, 2010 11:27 PM in reply to Barney
Depends...
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Jesus H. Christ
April 14, 2010 12:03 AM in reply to Barney
..but its that high Grand Master 3d panty tossing isn't it?
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FollowLiberty
April 13, 2010 1:15 PM
This is absolutely hillarious! You have a left wing nut admitting that the people being racist at Tea Parties are Liberal/Democratic Activists attempting to discredit the Tea Party by being Racist and Stupid? And of course, the left cheers him on as he admits that he and his followers are maliciously, and willingly planning and carrying out slander, defamation, and other Civil Rights Violations against members of the Tea Party Movement...
What will they be saying when the media starts to actually point fingers at the Anti-Tea Party Movement when the REAL kooks of the Tea Party shows up... its now easy to say - Oh, that's just one of Jason Levin's followers...
You are single handedly discounting the reports of Tea Party Racism by admitting its your own party trying to make them look bad...
Keep up the great work Levin! You are doing the Tea Party such a great service in taking the attention of all the bad publicity and making it all your own cause!
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expat46
April 13, 2010 2:08 PM in reply to FollowLiberty
Civil Rights Violations against members of the Tea Party Movement. Is this a joke?
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Rick Jones
April 13, 2010 2:16 PM in reply to expat46
Conservative white racists are now a protected class of citizens under the Civil Rights Act.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 4:45 PM in reply to Rick Jones
Mercilessly mocking conservative white racists could definitely be considered trampling their civil rights. Someone call Alan Dershowitz.
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bmmg39
April 14, 2010 1:51 PM in reply to expat46
"White racists"? Looks like you just revealed your own racism while trying to smear others with the same label.
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psyclone
April 13, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to FollowLiberty
And of course, the left cheers him on as he admits that he and his followers are maliciously, and willingly planning and carrying out slander, defamation
Glad to see you admit that teabagger rallies have been slanderous and defamatory thus far
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 4:06 PM in reply to FollowLiberty
um, slander IS defamation (verbal, written defamation is libel) AND defamation is not a civil rights violation. It's a common tort.
Otherwise, you're full of bunkum.
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morriganinoregon
April 13, 2010 5:13 PM in reply to FollowLiberty
"What will they be saying when the media starts to actually point fingers at the Anti-Tea Party Movement when the REAL kooks of the Tea Party shows up... its now easy to say - Oh, that's just one of Jason Levin's followers"
but how can your fellow tea partiers TELL THE DIFFERENCE? Are you saying the tea party followers are getting less and less until they are ALL just the left wing crazies?
then all the tea partiers will be discredited. it's brilliant!
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Mary Alice
April 13, 2010 8:44 PM in reply to FollowLiberty
When you make your sign, don't forget, two ls in hillarious.
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boycottfaux
April 13, 2010 1:15 PM
LOVE IT . .
Levin is 100% right!!
Make them crazier . .
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henk
April 13, 2010 1:16 PM
This really sounds idiotic. They are already using liberal infiltrators as an excuse for their behavior, so this will only help them on that front. And really what kind of agent provocateur announces their intentions before hand? A very foolish one. This will be counter productive.
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FollowLiberty
April 13, 2010 1:16 PM
Tea Party Members aren't in a tizzy over this... they are free to do whatever they want now and Levin and his Anti-Tea crowd will get all the blame! This is WONDERFUL!
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Barney
April 13, 2010 1:20 PM
Still more violence...this time left wing fucking animals tried to murder AZ Gov. Jim Brewer's spokesman and his family with firebombs thrown at his house
http://azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/article_19d78a7f-9d9d-533b-a55e-69177531be02.html
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AlphaLiberal
April 13, 2010 1:27 PM in reply to Barney
Do you have information on who did it? then you should inform police?
Otherwise, you don't know jack and are throwing around unfounded and ignorant charges.
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Barney
April 13, 2010 1:36 PM in reply to AlphaLiberal
That's what the imbeciles here at TPM said about my read on the attack on the Jindal aide.
...until my claim was proven 100% true
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slb
April 13, 2010 4:05 PM in reply to Barney
The last I saw, police are still investigating that incident. Do you have information the NOLA police do not have?
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 8:30 PM in reply to Barney
Proven 100% true alright...
".for wearing Palin pins..
...seriously...for wearing Palin pins
NOT TRUE
First, Jindal spokesman Kyle Plotkin tells us that Alle Bautsch was not wearing a Palin pin. And neither was Joe Brown. So that’s an allegation which has been disputed.
Lie #1 disputed by your own linked story, wanna try some more lying?"
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Barney
April 14, 2010 7:48 AM in reply to Sir T
There was never any official statement put out by Plotkin that the couple were not wearing Palin pins.
Plotkin is most certainly leaking this false information so that there won't be any copycat attacks by other mouth-breathing, spittle-flecked, sub-human leftards.
They beat a girl. They broke her legs. They gave her a concussion. they broke her jaw.
Why are leftard animals such cowards. They had to have a crowd to savagely beat a young woman and hre boyfriend.
What pussies
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 1:09 PM in reply to Barney
"UPDATE, 2:15 p.m.: As this story seems to be going viral, I want to put on the brakes a little and see if perhaps we can supply some answers to some of the questions which seem to be popping up regarding this incident.
First, Jindal spokesman Kyle Plotkin tells us that Alle Bautsch was not wearing a Palin pin. And neither was Joe Brown. So that’s an allegation which has been disputed.
Second, as far as the Jindal administration is concerned they do not have evidence at this time that the attack on Bautsch and Brown was directly related to the protest. We have a report, as you’ll see below, that the attack was politically motivated, and we’re looking forward to full confirmation of that fact. But the two are not necessarily at odds; our understanding is that Bautsch and Brown remained at Brennan’s after the fundraiser was over and by the time they left there wasn’t much of a protest going on – so if we’ve given the impression that the attack occurred as a result of fundraiser attendees having to run a gauntlet of Democrats upon leaving the restaurant we’d like to correct that right now; that is not our understanding."
That's copied straight from the article you linked to, 5 minutes ago. Go read it yourself if you can bear to now. I'm sorry to say but the writer of that article has far higher journalistic standards than you do. It was actually a rare pleasure to read. When he didn't know something he said it, and when he was drawing a conclusion he said that too.
Oh and as for your naff statement bullshit, there never was a statement from Plotkin that he WAS wearing a Palin pin either. That means you were talking bullshit, and you are now hiding behind the fact he didn't call a special press conference to say you were wrong, due to him recovering in hospital. Pathetic.
Anyway, I hope he and his girlfriend recover soon.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 9:41 PM in reply to Sir T
Me too, Sir T. What troll boy refuses to acknowledge is that we deplore violence and will chastise whoever did this, and perhaps even more so if they call themselves a leftist. As opposed to his side which has a distinct tendency lately to excuse such incidents as being a result of people being "legitimately upset" with their government.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 9:35 PM in reply to Barney
Claims of indignant rage and moral superiority from someone who has to throw ad hominem attacks into every post in a sad attempt to inflame people to responding in kind. Grow up a little, huh?
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WaitWut?
April 13, 2010 1:38 PM in reply to Barney
Hey genius. It's "Jan" Brewer and "he" is a "she"...a completely useless teabagged one. Although, many here think she would prefer to be a he. She's just as loony as every other 'bagger in this fucked up state and probably threw that cocktail at her own house. She really is that crazy.
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lousgirl84
April 13, 2010 4:07 PM in reply to WaitWut?
Omg. you busted his sorry ass.
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slb
April 13, 2010 4:12 PM in reply to Barney
You obviously have information the police don't have, so here you go:
or if you'd prefer to remain anonymous:
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slb
April 13, 2010 4:39 PM in reply to slb
This is, of course, for Barney.
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Partisancheese
April 13, 2010 1:20 PM
I want to be friends with this man.
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Goshen
April 13, 2010 1:20 PM
Psyops. Best move is to make this announcement and then do nothing.
Of course, you just know some idiot is going to try this stuff on his own, now, which takes away all the fun of the giant head-fake.
On balance, it might be funny in an ironic, college-prank sort of way, but it's probably not going to have the desired effect.
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IB livin
April 13, 2010 1:20 PM
Correct. This is all about getting into the baggers' heads. Mission accomplished.
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HiggsLight
April 13, 2010 1:22 PM
I just noticed that the "Crash The Tea Party" website (http://www.crashtheteaparty.org/) has a craptastic Web Of Trust score.
I wonder if this is because Tea Partiers are down rating it or it's a front for Malware, or something else strange and wild.
Just putting that out there in case anyone more IT security-savy than myself wants to check it out in more detail. If it has been down-rated for nefarious purposes we need to rate it back up again.
If it is a front for malware it's pretty damn clever and a disappointment as well.
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HiggsLight
April 13, 2010 2:05 PM in reply to HiggsLight
I usually don't reply to my own comments but after fixing a problem I was having when loading the WOT comments and ratings page it is confirmed that tea partiers are rating down the site.
If you have WOT installed rate it back up. For those of us that use WOT, a bad rating is a web browsing show-stopper.
It's not about agreeing with what they're doing, but agreeing they have a right to say it.
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bobosqueakers
April 13, 2010 1:24 PM
OUT teatarded??????
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Bill Bowman
April 13, 2010 1:28 PM
Bad, bad, BAD idea. This lets the Tea Parties easily dismiss charges of racism, homophobia, etc. as being acts done by the infiltrators. These people aren't stupid. The Westboro people are flat-out morons. This has "backfire" written all over it.
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several
April 13, 2010 1:51 PM in reply to Bill Bowman
my sentiments exactly
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castanea
April 13, 2010 10:16 PM in reply to Bill Bowman
They could have made those claims anyway, in the absence of any pranksters, and they probably were.
What might happen is that the more loony Teanuts come out of the woodwork with their moranic claims, their misspelled posters, and their potbellies because they think they can blame liberal pranksters for all the over-the-top deeds they choose to do on their own. Let them continue to foul their own nests.
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bmmg39
April 14, 2010 2:00 PM in reply to castanea
[emphasis mine]
"What might happen is that the more loony Teanuts come out of the woodwork with their MORANIC claims, their misspelled posters..."
Ha ha ha...
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windowpane
April 13, 2010 1:31 PM
My solution: dose 'em.
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Cornelius
April 13, 2010 5:08 PM in reply to windowpane
Exactly. Have the local fire house on stand by, ready with water hoses. Not the wet tee shirt contest I had in mind. Wow, got to get that image outa my head! Fast!
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PortlandJohn
April 13, 2010 1:32 PM
This is not helpful.
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FreemanW
April 13, 2010 1:56 PM in reply to PortlandJohn
+ plussity plus plus
Levin is a moron with attention whore syndrome.
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morriganinoregon
April 14, 2010 11:09 AM in reply to PortlandJohn
it's a hoax, Portland John, check out the Whois from the original site.
66.96.130.99 is enduranceinternational.com
CEO? "Steven "Steve" Sydness (born c. 1956) is a politician and businessman who was a North Dakota Republican Party candidate for one of North Dakota's United States Senate seats in 1992, and is the current CEO of the Endurance International Group in Massachusetts.[1]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sydness.
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Tony C
April 13, 2010 1:33 PM
Has anyone thought maybe Levin was full of S, and his entire plan is make teabaggers distrust each other ? I mean seriously, who in their right mind would spend the day with a bunch of idiots protesting paying less taxes then they did last year or the 8 years before that? Much less dress and act like them for some lame point, which Levin doesn't really seem to make.
And, as if the teabaggers need anyone to help them appear completely unhinged, they are doing just fine w/o secret operatives.
Can I also assume that these idiots are either not working and therefore collecting a government handout or too stoooopid to realize that liberals (unions) are the ones who championed paid time off so they could spent the day protesting the evil liberal policies.
Either way, I don't believe for a second anyone could organize liberals in any meaningful way, much less organize them to pretend to be teabaggers for a day. It's just not possible.
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Cornelius
April 13, 2010 5:20 PM in reply to Tony C
Yea, but either way bring a gun - just in case you see one of them agertatirs (I prefer a handgun so my other hand is free - nothing like a cold Bud in one hand and a firearm in the other).
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Bart DePalma
April 13, 2010 1:37 PM
This is a classic communist disinformation technique, not a prank. Pretty much the same stuff as Rather's forged Bush NG docs, the lies that Tea Party folks were chanting the N-word to the Black Caucus members and the SPLC whacky claims that the Tea Party is part of the KKK.
Why is it that you folks on the left cannot simply debate the merits of the stimulus, trillion dollar deficits, cap & tax and Obamacare?
My question for TPM is whether they will out Crash the Tea Party's false signs and statements or will you be complicit in their big lie strategy?
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 4:11 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
Why is it that you folks on the right cannot simply debate the merits of the stimulus, how to correct Republican-created trillion dollar deficits, global climate change and health care for all?
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Bart DePalma
April 13, 2010 6:32 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Why is it that you folks on the right cannot simply debate the merits of the stimulus, how to correct Republican-created trillion dollar deficits, global climate change and health care for all?
A GOP government never had a trillion dollar deficit, there is no scientific evidence of manmade global warming and the future of Obamacare is playing out with the collapse of health insurance under Romneycare in MA right now.
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Bart DePalma
April 13, 2010 6:34 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
See, I was able to do that without slandering you.
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Helpcomputer
April 13, 2010 7:27 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
Bush II passed an unfunded trillion dollar tax cut for millionaires in his FIRST SIX MONTHS. That took us from a surplus at the end of Clinton's tenure to a trillion dollar deficit in less than a year under a republican president.
The fact of global warming, including its human causes, has been the scientific consensus for going on 30 years.
Time will tell on health care reform, but it's already projected to cut a trillion dollars from the deficit over the next 15-20 years.
Can you debate the facts without lying or namecalling? You don't see Democrats making up crap like death panels and FEMA camps. It all comes from one side. So stop it. Just stop it.
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FreemanW
April 14, 2010 4:24 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
"A GOP government never had a trillion dollar deficit, there is no scientific evidence of manmade global warming and the future of Obamacare is playing out with the collapse of health insurance under Romneycare in MA right now."
As they say, you are entitled to your own opinion.
You are not entitled to your own facts.
Thank you for playing.
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Cal Gal
April 13, 2010 4:28 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
Why is it that you folks on the right cannot simply debate the merits of the stimulus, how to correct Republican-created trillion dollar deficits, global climate change and health care for all?
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DuaneW
April 13, 2010 7:12 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
The Stimulus (US, Chinese, European, etc.) saved the World Economy from Great Depression II
The 1.3 trillion dollar deficit came from the Republican George W. Bush after he inherited a 300 Billion dollar surplus from the Democrat Bill Clinton.
Cap and Trade has near universal acceptance by the world's leading economists as the best, most market-friendly way to stop runaway CO2 production which has already increased 50% in last 80 years (check out The Economist's essay on the matter, it's a very good read)
Obama/Pelosi/Reid Care finally brings the USA into the 20th Century in regards to Universal Health Care, the very last advanced country to do so, thirty years later than second to last Portugal. The previous insurance-manipulated system not only had the very worse coverage of any advanced country but was 50% - 100% more expensive!!
There, I debated. You lose.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 10:04 PM in reply to DuaneW
The "most market-friendly way". Well, you got that right. Which means it doesn't really do shit to reduce emissions, just sort of shuffles them around. In fact, Repubs should be in favor of it, but they can't be because then they might agree with Obama/Dems, and we know what a cardinal sin that is these days.
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DownriverDem
April 13, 2010 1:40 PM
My question is: Why are tea baggers 99.9% white?
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AlphaLiberal
April 13, 2010 1:46 PM
I wish he wasn't doing this. It just gives the TPers more opportunity to deflect responsibility. Now, any time anything racist or dumb happens at a TP rally they will blame libs.
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Alexander Dumas
April 13, 2010 1:47 PM
This is a brilliant strategy, yet what does it accomplish. If you send teabaggers home then you've just discouraged a fair portion of the population. Finally American's are waking up, now is not the time to discourage them, but to educate them. Their anger is genuine, there are problems, they need to be addressed, corporations can't run our country anymore. Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wES3so6282Q and listen to what Francis has to say, she talks about solutions.
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Bill From PA
April 13, 2010 3:11 PM in reply to Alexander Dumas
'If you send teabaggers home then you've just discouraged a fair portion of the population.'
There are some morons I want to see discouraged, 'baggers being at the top of that list.
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Bart DePalma
April 13, 2010 1:48 PM
Downdrive:
Quinnipiac University polling of registered voters breaks down the demographics of the Tea Party movement very nicely. Self identified Tea Party members are about 88% white, with the rest Latino and African American. These are pretty much the demographics of the heartland conservative middle class.
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Russell
April 13, 2010 3:21 PM in reply to Bart DePalma
Your kidding right? The teabaggers are nothing but a bunch of lunatic whack jobs. They wouldnt even be around had McCain been elected and did the exact same thing as President Obama. How stupid do you have to be to not know you, along with 95% of the country got a tax cut under Obama. What I find most hilarious about teabaggers and the cadre of morons on Fox is they have no solutions to offer...none! All they offer is carping. Where were they for 8 years while Bush and the republican party raped this country?
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Sekiu Jetty
April 13, 2010 1:54 PM
Stupid. Now the teabaggers will have an excuse anytime one of them does something embarrassing: "It was a liberal plant who said it." Beck and Limbaugh will make good use of this.
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Gaddis
April 13, 2010 1:55 PM
Any confirmation from anyone that Levin is doing this for the reasons he purports? This is the kind of credulous, single-source reporting I thought TPM avoided.
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Jeremiah
April 13, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to Gaddis
That too.
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Bill From PA
April 13, 2010 3:15 PM in reply to Gaddis
I doesn't matter, Hannity is already running with this so it's being believed by the 'bagger community. The seed has been planted, their paranoia will get even worse, they'll be looking for 'plants' among their own disturbed tribe, pass the popcorn.
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Gaddis
April 13, 2010 3:52 PM in reply to Bill From PA
But it does matter. I like TPM for the precise reason that it has higher standards than to transcribe what someone says is true and promote it prominently on its front page. Jason Levin has been trying hard to push his "movement" to anyone who will listen, in particular to "friendly" liberal media. It certainly doesn't seem like TPM has enough info to be dubbing him "possibly the scariest man in the tea party universe."
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Bart DePalma
April 13, 2010 1:57 PM
CNN polling broke self identification of Tea Party membership by region. About 30% of respondents in the each of the West, Midwest and South regions polled self identified as Tea Party. This movement includes much of the middle class in the suburbs and rural areas of what the left dismisses as flyover country. So much for the nutjob slander.
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Silence
April 13, 2010 2:02 PM
The childish antics of crashers will have no effect on the TEA party, whatsoever. The crashers and SEIU have been there from the beginning with Hitler signs etc. Still, the TEA party grows.
BTW,
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 13 Apr 2010 at 05:56:41 PM GMT is:
$ 1 2 , 8 4 1 , 5 1 7 , 4 8 1 , 2 7 1 . 8 4
The estimated population of the United States is 308,187,457
so each citizen's share of this debt is $41,667.88.
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All most CRAZY you'll ever see is right here in these numbers.
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Backcountry
April 13, 2010 4:55 PM in reply to Silence
Yeah. I remember you were very concerned about Bush's tax cuts for the rich or the off-the-books war in Iraq. Yeah. That's when you started watching the debt clock, wasn't it?
Or was it when a black man became president of the U.S.?
I think we all know the answer to that, asshole.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to Backcountry
Yeah, notSilence is probably a big supporter of the reckless Republican 'starve the beast' strategy.
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Silence
April 14, 2010 8:37 AM in reply to Backcountry
The anger that gave rise to the TEA party was rooted in the bailouts.
Who was president during those bailouts? Bush.
Twist it, turn it, spin it. The fact remains that it started with the bailouts. Fuel was added to the fire by exploding deficits, taxes, welfare expansion and HCR.
Had Obama stopped the bailouts, beat back the Wall street thieves, started reducing the deficit, encouraged job creation and shelved HCR, this president would have been viewed as a national hero. He did not. Instead, he chose the cloak of failure not seen since the Carter administration.
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 5:14 PM in reply to Silence
$6 trillion of that we can thank GW Bush for. You remember that in 2000 it was projected that we'd have a $5 trillion surplus over ten years? GW pissed away $11 trillion.
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 6:00 PM in reply to Silence
This the same debt clock that the creator turned off during the Clinton years as it was going down faster than Rush's latest mistress (allegedly)
And that he turned back on early in the Bush years, at which point people like you called him a traitor?
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howie911
April 13, 2010 2:03 PM
I call on congresswoman Bachmann to lead the investigation to find out who the real Tea party members are, the true Americans.
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Jeremiah
April 13, 2010 2:14 PM
This is a strange idea for TPM to be getting excited about. I agree that the tea party stuff is freakish and hostile and even dangerous. But the concept of infiltrating a group of protesters and trying to up the crazy sounds more dangerous still.
The most likely outcome is that "crashers" will naively incite mob violence and be prosecuted as such. Most of the things they can say that would not have them instantly flagged as plants are things that some subset of Tea Partiers secretly or not-so-secretly believe. That's why the government infiltrated student groups in the 1960s, often quite successfully - because moving the needle towards violence is not that hard when people are pissed.
Difference was, that was the government, and they made sure not to be the spokespeople, because to get caught doing so would be engender enormous sympathy for student protesters. As soon as ordinary citizens are doing it, and trying to be stagey about it, they will make "liberals" look like hypocritical and reckless people who lack a counter-argument and are willing to dupe the general public to serve their own ends and muddle a political message that obviously has some traction.
It is worlds away from the mocking counter-protests of Westboro, and the difference lies in the perceived role of the public in the dialogue.
If the Tea Party itself were actually behind this "infiltration" idea, it would be the smartest thing they've done. But that's the rub- this is level of cynicism about the political process that I'd have expected from the current right-wing leadership, not from the grassroots left.
I guess the most disappointing thing about this idea is that this blog is giving it face time. This is an irresponsible abuse of the political process, trashes freedoms that are supposed to transcend political parties and are not trumped by complaints about media bias, and will incite violence. Grow up, TPM.
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jet
April 13, 2010 2:15 PM
The only benefit I see from this... is that Teabaggers are already so paranoid that they'll start turning on each other.
The drawback... It gives ammunition to those people claiming that any crazy, racist, dumb, Teabagger is liberal plant.
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 2:17 PM
Evan, how'd you get that interview? I thought I was getting an exclusive...oh well. Tell Jason that it's okay. I am still in communication with the "band of pranksters." I am confident I will get a scoop that noone else has. Check out my blog. It's at tons_of_wash's spin-cycle on wordpress.
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sean
April 13, 2010 2:20 PM
Yer makin' me paranoid, man...
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jet
April 13, 2010 2:21 PM
Or maybe Levin is really a Tea Party Patriot aka Teabagger and is just doing this to make Liberals and Progressives look bad????
Sounds like something James O'Keefe would do.
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nowhereman
April 13, 2010 2:22 PM
Don't worry Jeremiah, Hannity got the story before TPM--I watched in horror and glee last night on the teevee.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 2:25 PM
Tea Party members have now formed a group to infiltrate the Crash The Tea Party group. If you see somebody in a Nazi Uniform doing the hoola-hoop and dancin' the Dixie Chicken, it's probably one of the Tea Party Crash the Tea Party infiltrators.
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 5:16 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
Would that be the Crash the Crash the Tea Party Party?
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toocute
April 13, 2010 2:26 PM
I find it curious that the left writes off the tea party members as right wing loons and yet they spend all this effort trying to discredit them.
JP07: "Barney, you do know that there is strong evidence that those bullies were hired by a right wing think tank, don't you?"
Jp Where is your proof?
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Bill From PA
April 13, 2010 2:32 PM in reply to toocute
toocute, no need to discredit them, they're doing that job splendidly, we're mocking them, and the probable fault to this gent's infiltration plan is that it's nearly inpossible to 'out loon' the real loons. They're beyond satire, one can't make up shit to top the shit they actually believe and spout.
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Mary Alice
April 13, 2010 2:26 PM
I see many of the Tea Baggers as naive, well-meaning and clueless folks, born to follow. They would never question any sign at any Tea Bag event, even though they might have some quickly smothered misgivings at the most blatantly racists and violence promoting ones. Yes, this condescending but so be it.
I think this is an absolutely brilliant idea. It makes me proud to be from Oregon. Jason Levin is a genius. I am 80 years old and I would be honored and proud to carry one of these signs. Where do I sign up?
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 2:28 PM
And for anyone interested, I have announced on my blog a $99,999 finders fee for authentic video footage of the racial slurs slung at the CBC Congressmen. I will provide anonymity to whomever turns the video over to me and will provide them with the bounty if Andrew pays up. I will keep a dollar as a souvenir. Go to my blog for more info and any tips are appreciated!
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sean
April 13, 2010 2:28 PM
naive, well-meaning and clueless folks
Like Hobbits with guns...
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Mary Alice
April 13, 2010 8:51 PM in reply to sean
I wish I'd said that.....
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Carlos
April 13, 2010 2:29 PM
Why would they publicize this? So that the tea baggers can just point to it every single time they get criticized?
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Bill From PA
April 13, 2010 2:41 PM in reply to Carlos
Jason Levin doesn't have to actually do anything now that this story has legs, the tea baggers are inherently paraniod as it is, this will feed their mental illness to the extent that they'll be questioning the sincerity of any fellow 'bagger they don't personally know. Jason has cleverly turned their own disturbing tendencies against them. Ya know, they might actually have to start listening to each other's chants, read and comprehend each other's posters and try to separate their 'real' lunacy from the 'faux' lunacy of infiltrators. Some might actually realize the foolishness being spewed and 'bagger protests and slink away in shame.
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Carlos
April 13, 2010 2:59 PM in reply to Bill From PA
Now they have a name and a face and a story to post to their websites, and to demand that the media cover. Which Breitbart is already doing. This guy is probably on Breitbart's payroll.
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Silence
April 13, 2010 2:42 PM in reply to Carlos
Yup.
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 2:29 PM
lol @ joeTheM
let me guess what the "M" stands for...hahahahaa
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 2:32 PM
Does anyone know how one changes their avatar?
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hychka
April 13, 2010 3:09 PM in reply to rosehips
Log in on TPM, goto "edit profile," scroll down to "userpic," browse to an image you have stored on your computer and chose it. There you are with a userpic of your choice!
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 3:27 PM in reply to hychka
thank you hychka, I must have overlooked it when I created my profile. ;)
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itheuser
April 13, 2010 2:36 PM
This is a ridiculous idea, and one that could backfire in unexpected ways. I think publicizing such a stunt is blatantly stupid, and it would only provide cover for authentic instances of hate.
This is not an idea that should be encouraged, and I do wonder about the judgment of these individuals, and anyone supporting them. I certainly don't want them on my team. This is the kind of naive, sloppy strategy that can diminish important gains of public support.
The Tea Party does enough damage to themselves, and acts like this would only give them cover.
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itheuser
April 13, 2010 2:43 PM
On second thought, this is still a truly stupid idea.
This is shallow Portland Liberal type thinking.
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Mary Alice
April 13, 2010 3:18 PM in reply to itheuser
I'm nominating him for a Pulitzer or maybe a Nobel even. How sweet it is.
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windowpane
April 13, 2010 4:50 PM in reply to itheuser
No - we're too busy panhandling... :)
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psyclone
April 13, 2010 2:50 PM
I'd say the prankster has already succeeded.
Besides, to all you handwringers - the toothpaste is already out of the tube, no use trying to force it back in.
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nova-caine
April 13, 2010 2:56 PM
This is not quite on topic, but I wonder if the teapartiers realize how much they support China and all the other countries that produce the posters and markers they used to write their signs, the clothing for their costumes, the tea that they are wasting, and even the American flags they're waving around (particularly those tiny ones on the lady's hat in the pic). Perhaps some sewed their costume themselves, but even the fabric was likely produced elsewhere. As well as the thread & needle/sewing machine. If they truly cared about the future of this country they'd stop wasting their money on foreign products and do something to encourage American-made items.
On topic, I agree that this does give the teapartiers & Fox a scapegoat, but on the other hand it might be amusing to watch their paranoia grow.
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Silence
April 13, 2010 2:58 PM in reply to nova-caine
Americans don't make things. They collect welfare checks.
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 11:35 PM in reply to Silence
That's just fiscally conservative red states.
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Ian
April 13, 2010 3:05 PM
The Tea Party Movement needs no help from you to destroy itself. All you do is give them the ability to cry foul as they self-destruct.
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Mary Alice
April 13, 2010 3:12 PM
Maybe the Free Republic is right. Maybe we don't need any infiltrators. I just read the following from FR comments on this story:
The only solution (to infiltrators) "is to beat them up and toss them out on the street corners. The leftists are already convinced that we are violent loons". Violent loons? Why would anybody think that?
(I hope I'm not outing a clever infiltrator).
2 comments suggested that Tea Baggers hold signs with arrows pointing, saying 'infiltrator". The idea being that they stand next to infiltrators and expose them for what they are. The plot thickens. Would they out a person holding a sign saying, "Democrats are morans"? They might want to re-think the arrow thing.
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Bill From PA
April 13, 2010 3:27 PM in reply to Mary Alice
'Maybe the Free Republic is right. Maybe we don't need any infiltrators.'
We don't, not now. Hannity et. al. are spreading the word to the 'baggers, that's all that's needed. A movement fueled by paranoia which demands belief in patently ridiculous, alternate-universe 'ideas' is ripe for a stunt like this. It's brilliant. Plant the idea that there's a 'conspiracy' to 'subvert' your patriotic organization by being more outrageous than you yourself! How does one fight that? An arms race of lunacy? Actually questioning the slogans and chants at a 'bagger protest? Make the idiots actually THINK? Begin self-reflection?
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 3:19 PM
Actually, I agree with the sentiment expressed by many that this is a bad idea. It will be counter-productive.
Democrats have nothing to do with this.
Many Tea Party members have legitimate concerns about Wall Street bailouts and a bad economy. Some will vote Democratic. We should offer a better alternative than the Republicans.
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theWalrus
April 13, 2010 3:35 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
I agree and disagree. Bad idea. Obviously bad.
But, seriously, these teabaggers have no real legitimate concerns. They do have irrational fears that are being manipulated by others. While they deserve all the ridicule and mocking they can get, doing it through some infiltration scheme like this is a terrible idea and bound to backfire big time.
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Silence
April 13, 2010 4:24 PM in reply to theWalrus
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 13 Apr 2010 at 08:23:51 PM GMT is:
$ 1 2 , 8 3 0 , 2 2 3 , 8 4 3 , 0 8 4 . 1 8
The estimated population of the United States is 308,188,071
so each citizen's share of this debt is $41,631.15.
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expat46
April 13, 2010 5:12 PM in reply to Silence
I was really trying to avoid you notSilence but it's hard when you tee one up this easy.
Notice anything about the dates in this quote? Where were you then.....
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Silence
April 14, 2010 8:53 AM in reply to expat46
Paying taxes that were flushed down a toilet.
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wcollar
April 13, 2010 3:36 PM
Originally I thought this was a great idea, but on further thought, how is it possible to do anything outside the "normal" bounds of Tea Party behavior? I mean really, how do you out crazy crazy? Who is going to notice?
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Backcountry
April 13, 2010 3:41 PM
The more I think about this, the worse this seems.
It's totally improper to play "dirty tricks" to try to defeat a political foe. Of course, like the Swift Boaters and the Willie Horton ads show, sometime dirty tricks do work. But most of the time not. And it's better not to resort to dirty tricks to "win" -- because you haven't won. You've only tricked people.
The Tea Baggers actions should be left to speak for themselves. No amplification is needed.
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bibimimi
April 13, 2010 3:45 PM
These fractious loopy haters CRY OUT for The Yes Men treatment post haste!
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Bloggin
April 13, 2010 3:47 PM
No one has to actually show up to any of the Tea Party events. Just the 'idea' and FEAR of someone infiltrating their craziness, will have them quickly attacking their own. Next they will implement the GOP/Tea Party Purity Test in an attempt to weed out those that are not 'true' tea party patriots. lol
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Bill From PA
April 13, 2010 3:48 PM
'It's totally improper to play "dirty tricks" to try to defeat a political foe.'
I'm tired of losing 'clean' while the repugs do everything short of assination, so far, to win. Besides, how declaring up front that you intend to do this thing constitutes 'dirty' is beyond me. Saying you're going to do something is not the same as doing it, and attending a protest with signage that mimics your opponents is hardly immoral, not that I would care if it were.
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Backcountry
April 13, 2010 5:00 PM in reply to Bill From PA
Well, on many levels I agree with you. I'd like to see a whole lot more fight from the Dems than we ever see.
But if we go your way, then pretty soon we'll have armed goon squads shooting at each other in the streets -- because there will be no holds barred on anything. If we stoop to the level of the Rethugs on everything the whole country is in deep trouble.
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Cal Damage
April 13, 2010 5:14 PM in reply to Bill From PA
"Never bring a knife to a gunfight"
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Atlas Scruggs
April 13, 2010 4:03 PM
Well that's kind of stupid. Keep it to yourself, dude. Now when the TPers bring teh crazy, everyone will just say "It's just the libs."
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OregonTeaParty
April 13, 2010 4:04 PM
You failed to mention that this character (a public school teacher) also advocated IDENTITY THEFT on his site:
According to Levin’s post on crashtheteaparty.org, “See just how much info you can get from these folks (name address, DOB, Social Security #). The more data we can mine from the Tea Partiers, the more mayhem we can cause with it!!!!”.
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theWalrus
April 13, 2010 4:09 PM in reply to OregonTeaParty
Fortunately the site, crashtheteaparty, has crashed. Let's hope it stays that way.
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slb
April 13, 2010 4:54 PM in reply to OregonTeaParty
This guy is a public school teacher? Then he definitely should know better.
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Cal Damage
April 13, 2010 4:10 PM
Wasn't this an old Twilight Zone episode, where the aliens stood on a hill outside town, turning the power on and off in town, and watching the locals start to chew each other up over imagined fears that one of the others was an alien?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street
The closing narration is : "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and the thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own: for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone."
Loves me some Rod Serling.
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FightTheFascism
April 13, 2010 4:16 PM in reply to Cal Damage
Alien #1: Understand the procedure now? Just stop a few of their machines, and radios, and telephones, and lawnmowers, throw them into darkness for a few hours and then, sit back and watch the pattern.
Alien #2: And this pattern is always the same?
Alien #1: With few variations. They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find. And it's themselves. All we need do is sit back and watch.
Alien #2: Then I take it that this place- This "Maple Street" is not unique?
Alien #1: By no means. The world is full of Maple Streets. And we'll go from one to the other and let them destroy themselves. One to the other...One to the other...One to the other...
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DancingBear
April 13, 2010 4:36 PM in reply to Cal Damage
YES! THANK YOU! I was thinking exactly the same thing.
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 4:20 PM
The site has not crashed, although if God answered prayers, it would be.
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 4:22 PM
Cal, I used to know a guy who lived in Rod Serling's old house in Binghamton NY. Want to touch me? lol
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 4:32 PM
The Tea Party is not monolithic. You may be getting only the TV version. Some people who show up at a Tea Party might have a point of view that is pretty close to yours. Others might be wacko. There are all kinds. I talked to a guy a couple of days ago who went to a rally in Florida. He wasn't a nut. He wasn't a racist. He was very anti-Republican, sort of a Ron Paul type.
When are we going to see the first Democratic Tea Party group?
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ohyeathatsright
April 13, 2010 5:45 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
Pray tell, what is he so mad about? And why now?
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 6:54 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
He was upset at the bailouts and taxes. He only went to one rally. He said there was some kind of police surveillance by boat and that worried him. This guy is a US Marine.
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ohyeathatsright
April 15, 2010 7:43 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
So chances are he got a tax cut this year--I don't know many multimillionaire Marines. Not only that, taxpayers have been his sole livelihood as a member of our Armed Services. Not to mention the GI bill which lets him go to school on our dime.
Taxes suck, but they are directly related to the quality of life we have here in America. My guess is that the rally your friend attended was in a public space, taxpayer funded, and however he got there was also taxpayer funded (roads, sidewalks, public transit). And guess what, if you don't want to pay taxes, just make charitable contributions, the government allows you to DEDUCT those, so you can direct your own money to the causes that you support.
Bailouts, that's another story. I would say that the vast majority of Americans and commenters you find here are against Bush's bailouts.
Police, what do you expect? It's a gathering of angry protesters. Police generally turn up for those.
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ched
April 13, 2010 4:36 PM
This might be tougher than they think. Every time we seem to have reached peak wingnut, somebody comes along and raises (lowers?) the bar on the crazee.
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scottws
April 13, 2010 4:47 PM in reply to ched
Rod Serling covered this approach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street
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Carlos
April 13, 2010 4:51 PM
Unfortunately, I think TPM got punked on this.
Look at that last quote. Does it make any sense whatsoever that this guy would be a liberal?
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igotmyreasons
April 13, 2010 5:14 PM
A tech consultant who's web site doesn't work?
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 5:27 PM in reply to igotmyreasons
It takes money, not skill, to field lots and lots and lots of hits.
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igotmyreasons
April 13, 2010 5:20 PM
"And while it's not clear how big the group actually is,"
REALLY? Look at the message boards. You've been had... no one doing this would go public, it defeats the whole purpose.
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Daddy Love
April 13, 2010 5:26 PM
There is no Democratic Tea Party.
These are the same Republican haters who come out and bleat every tiume a Demcorat regains the presidency (or, to al lesser degree, when Democrats have a COngressional majority).
Quinnipiac polls them at 13% of the population, and their makeup as 96% GOP or "Independent" (you know, the kind of "independents" who have never voted for a Democrat).
In the 90's they were the militias and the Freepers, and so on. Only the names have changed.
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stavrogin2
April 13, 2010 5:26 PM
I'm a part of this. I've been organizing for the D.C. teabagger protest on the 15th. We've got about 50 people who are planning on showing up, 5 in ye olde suits, 5 in cowboy get ups, 1 brave soul who will go in black face, a few black friends who are going to try to convince the teabaggers that they want to get up on stage and declaim against Obama with the credibility of race behind them and the rest are going to go through the baggers' ranks accusing random people of being liberal plants-- if they can in front of Fox News tv cameras, which will hopefully rile people up so they act before they think. It's going to be a fun day.
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Carlos
April 13, 2010 5:51 PM in reply to stavrogin2
How did you all get together with the 50 people? How did Levin help you organize this? Are you with some organization?
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 6:08 PM in reply to stavrogin2
Cool. I'll be there, too.
I'm bringing the voter registration forms.
I'll be dress up like a big rooster, with a sign around my neck that says "Obama Hussein = Markist Lemonist"
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The Captain
April 13, 2010 6:55 PM in reply to stavrogin2
Well then congratulations! All your going to end up doing is giving the Tea Baggers an excuse to call all the real crazies in their ranks, liberal infiltrators.
At the least you'll just end up scaring the press off from reporting on the crazies at the rallies, so as not to get caught showing a liberal infiltrator instead. Thanks for helping the Tea Bag movement in a lame attempt at juvenile humor!
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navamske
April 13, 2010 5:41 PM
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willia451
April 13, 2010 5:58 PM
The media will not allow the Tea Parties to be discredited. On any real level.
They are too big a cash cow.
Slow news day? Talk about the tea party. Nobody subscribing to your feed? Throw out a Tea Party post. Hit rate down on your site? Do a Tea Party story. Rating down on your news outlet? Show a Tea Party incident at a town hall.
You get the drill.
The Tea Party on March 22nd (the day HIR passed) had a couple thousand protestors at the capital acting like immature punks. While immigration reform marchers had over 100,000 over at the Mall for immigration reform.
Who got the coverage? The Tea Party. Why? Because they are incendiary. They are the equivalent of a car crash.
If it bleeds, it leads.
As soon as it benefits the media, they will bring the Tea Party down.
And not before.
The Tea Parties are a tempest in a teapot.
The real source of voter anger is the economy. And the bailouts.
Its always the economy.
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Bolshevik in Jesustan
April 13, 2010 6:01 PM
I want to join this guy... I might even show up open-carrying (but peaceful).
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AntiStrauss
April 13, 2010 6:06 PM
This is brilliant. With their suspicions fueled, they are likely to form a circular firing squad accusing each other of being a plant. Win, Win, Win.
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 6:09 PM
The only way I see this working is if it forces them into a massive crazy purge and banning all racist stuff whatsoever, at which point all the racist nuts have nowhere to go and will stay home, and all that's at the next Palin event is a couple of men talking about how good she looks in leather, and a homeless transxual.
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Johnny
April 13, 2010 6:18 PM
Strikes me as not-such-a-good idea. Set principles of fair play aside. Tea Partiers are already playing the perpetual victim. How are they ever going to be held accountable, if they can plausibly say, "If it was something you disapprove of, it was from a saboteur?"
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 6:23 PM
Of course, it should be well know by now, that FBI and local law enforcement will also have undercover surveillance.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 13, 2010 6:33 PM
On second thought..
Forget the rooster suit.
I'll be wearing a trench coat and dark shades, takin' pictures!
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maxine
April 13, 2010 6:33 PM
Westboro infiltrators were a big success because of the INITIAL fact that it was a Surprise. it was not broadcasted like seen here with Levin.
I am really beginning to think whose side levin is really on, and for what purpose.
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grinninglibber
April 13, 2010 6:33 PM
Excellent. One of the things regressives hate most is not being takien seriously. Mocking works on them.
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The Life of Bryan
April 13, 2010 6:38 PM
Am I the only one who can’t help but think of Uneasy Rider when I picture the hilarity that must surely ensue?
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leadersgoner
April 13, 2010 6:38 PM
I have a suggestion. Instead of doing that, why not go out and picket what you actually stand for?
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Netgk
April 13, 2010 6:49 PM
I love this idea! The best way to defeat someone is to make people laugh at them. These tea-baggers wrap themselves in the flag and think they'll be impervious no matter how ridiculous their words and actions. They didn't plan on being made a laughing stock. Go Levin! You ROCK!!!
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castanea
April 13, 2010 7:05 PM in reply to Netgk
Ah, but the perfect way to defeat someone is to start them down the road to defeating themselves. The best thing about mentioning infiltration of the Teanut movement by progressive pranksters is that no real infiltration has to occur. The paranoia of the Teanuts is so great that, as others here have suggested, they'll begin to suspect each other of being infiltrators.
Kinda cool, as far as I'm concerned.
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beezling
April 13, 2010 6:54 PM
THIS IS IDIOTIC AND COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE!
Now the Tea Party will claim that any time anyone has any kind of offensive sign or behaves in any kind of ludicrous way, it's not a Tea Partier but a progressive infiltrator.
This is so dumb I almost wonder if Levin isn't a conservative operative.
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rosehips
April 13, 2010 6:55 PM
patience has paid off. I'm finally getting a scoop. Check out Jason Levin's Manifesto here:
http://tonsofwash.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/flash-jason-levins-manifesto/
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DuaneW
April 13, 2010 8:08 PM
The best part of the Infiltration Strategy is that it completely changes the storyline.
When the MSM takes the Teabaggers (incredibly) as a legitimate citizens movement (like CNN following the Teabagger Bus with their own CNN Bus) the storyline becomes "People are angry at the (excellently functioning) government of Obama." What the Infiltration Strategy does brings the focus on crazy behavior regardless of who is perpetrating it. And considering that 99% of those who will actually show up will be genuine Teabaggers, 99% of the crazies are Teabaggers themselves.
Brilliant!
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cultxpt
April 13, 2010 8:18 PM
I don't like this because it is specifically designed to interfere with a group rather than to counter it with facts and information. ANY group could be attacked in this manner and be harmed by people who really aren't members. But especially open source groups, which I think are the wave of the future, could be damaged by this tactic, no matter how legitimate they are.
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Lucidity
April 13, 2010 8:25 PM
Sarah Palin is in fact a liberal plant who has succeeded brilliantly in making the tea party minions look like gullible ignoramuses.
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Hobartcat
April 13, 2010 8:25 PM
FNORD!!!
A friend of mine claims that Victoria Jackson (formerly of SNL) is running this same sort of operation.
It's so hard to separate teh crazy from teh satire.
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estevancarlos
April 13, 2010 8:34 PM
The genius is that allowing the teabaggers to _believe_ they're infiltrated by people acting like nuts is good enough by itself. we can just sit back and watch the show.
GENIUS.
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ThisIsCrazy!
April 13, 2010 9:06 PM
If anyone needs help here, I am a professional proof-reader.
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TJ rex
April 13, 2010 9:07 PM
Let me know how I can help. The tea baggers are backing JD "I never took a dime from Abramoff" Hayworth, here in Arizona. He's going up against - John "I never said I was a maverick" McCain. McCain is trying to look and act more crazy but Hayworth has already - been there done that - so the tea party bunch just love him.
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Outraged
April 13, 2010 9:37 PM
At first I thought this was a bad idea seeing as how they're already blaming liberal plants for their worst transgressions, but then I thought of the sign I'd like to be carrying at Thursday's Richmond Tea Party:
"Beware of Spyes and Interloopers!"
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Chris
April 13, 2010 9:52 PM
We need them for thee 2010 election! Standing arm in arm with the Republicans. Drag the Republicans along with the Tea Baggers!
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james
April 13, 2010 10:14 PM
I'd love to see a sign that said
god says to kill all gays (Leviticus 20:13)
maybe even with the scripture written out
"if a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.(Leviticus 20:13
KJV)
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lotl
April 14, 2010 11:52 PM in reply to james
That's an interesting versus. Sounds more like a commentary on the prevailing social attitude than a command. Notice it doesn't say "they must surely be put to death." And who knows, the last line could mean the blood of homosexuals will be on the heads of those who murder them.
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lotl
April 14, 2010 11:56 PM in reply to lotl
Verse, not versus. I'm typing-challenged today.
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juccikucci
April 13, 2010 10:20 PM
This is stupid. Its wrong to interfere with anybody else's privilege of getting their message out. If he wants to set up a counter-protest that's fine.
Lots of commenters on TPM think this is funny and it will be great to set tea partiers turn against each other. But many tea partiers are truly mentally ill. I don't want to see a mentally ill person with a "Nancy Pelosi killed Elvis" sign getting stomped by a mob.
Anger in our country is leading to more violence. Some tea partiers could take this as an excuse to attack libs. They can also infiltrate and disrupt left wing gatherings and play the same trick.
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chadhussein
April 13, 2010 10:33 PM
Anyone from the Ft Bliss or El Paso area? There's a Tea Party at Western Playland Thursday. Anyone going?
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M.J. Rosenberg
April 13, 2010 10:34 PM
I like Levin's idea a lot. But why tell them in advance? Why not just do it?
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Opal
April 13, 2010 10:55 PM
Have we all been had?
http://open.salon.com/blog/greg_correll/2010/04/13/right-wing_hoax
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AE
April 13, 2010 11:04 PM in reply to Opal
Wow. Sure looks like it.
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AE
April 13, 2010 10:55 PM
The most brilliant part of this is that the "infiltrators" can come out with mild signs and observe as the true wingnuts that come out are busted. Awesome.
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pflugh
April 13, 2010 10:56 PM
I admit the notion has a certain amount of appeal to the "monkey wrencher" in me but the actual sane part of me realizes that this is a monumentally stupid idea from any number of standpoints.
First, the TEA Partiers don't need any encouragement to make with the crazy. To paraphrase that old dog food commercial, it makes its own crazy.
Second, this is a perfect excuse for them to discount any racist, bigoted, or offensive sign as being the creation of the monkey wrenchers and have it believed by the media.
Third, it's easy to move from a "party crasher" into being an _agent provocateur_ and inciting something tragic.
The reason why the Twitter anti-protest worked is that they took the Westboro stupidity (it's hard to call it anything else) and turned it on its head by laughing at them. Some sort of similar satirical effort could possibly work against the TEA Partiers if done right but, frankly, some of these people are more than a bit unbalanced and getting them riled in such a direct manner is fraught with danger.
We saw the kind of abuse to which they were willing to subject members of Congress and things could easily get out of hand. You're talking about people with guns, low self esteem, and borderline psychosis. That's not a very healthy combination.
I think anyone with a brain in their head will run, not walk, a quickly in the opposite direction from this idiocy as possible.
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juccikucci
April 13, 2010 10:58 PM
Elsewhere on the net, they are calling this a hoax, based on searches.
http://open.salon.com/blog/greg_correll/2010/04/13/right-wing_hoax
That conflicts with TPM. Could TPM have been fooled by a hoaxter?
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Opal
April 13, 2010 11:30 PM in reply to juccikucci
Yes...I read that and went to the "website" which is a single page with a link to a marketing site. I also went to the Facebook page. This is very likely a hoax. Maybe Levin will earn some money from the sale of t-shirts and such from the link at the bottom of his "website." I think that the right wingers are laughing their heads off at the controversy this has wrought. Now, no matter what the tea partiers do, they can always claim that it was the infiltrators who were trying to embarrass them.
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theCakes
April 13, 2010 11:52 PM in reply to Opal
The message board on the website screams hoax.
It's pretty smart, really, the teabaggers get to blame liberal infiltrators for all the horrible behavior, while the expectation of infiltrators among their ranks will make the wingnuts more careful about their tone.
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 11:34 PM in reply to juccikucci
The thought had occurred to me. I actually wanted to run a trace on that site last night but have no idea how to go about it. This guy did and it leads to something really suspicious.
Nice find.
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Kitcha
April 13, 2010 11:40 PM
Hi. I'm a young adult female member of the tea party movement because I believe the current rearrangement of healthcare and fiscal irresponsibility of the current administration have created an unsustainable fiscal disaster that I simply cannot support. I believe in individual rights and personal responsibility. I would never do anything as sinister or black-hearted as attending any organized meeting of individuals for the sole purpose of provoking rage. Shame on all of you for supporting such conniving and hateful behavior.
We are all in this boat together, "teabaggers" and "libtards" and "wingnuts" alike. We should all treat each other with respect. If you disagree with the tea party movement, go step in as yourself and engage individuals in logical debates. Not all of us are idiots. Some of us may simply be misinformed, and would prefer to be enlightened than made fun of. If you the one you engage is a "hopeless idiot" move on to the next. You might even learn something in the process.
Just a thought.
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Sir T
April 13, 2010 11:57 PM in reply to Kitcha
Something you wont ever see on Fox
http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg/800px-US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg
Yes you need a magnifying glass to see Obama's contribution, which is following a trend clearly started by the not-a-conservative-really previous president (exaserbated by actually putting that dept om the books) who was following a trend begun by the ultimate "fiscal conservative" president
Nuff said, really.
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 12:04 AM in reply to Sir T
I should of course mention that some credit Clintons success on the tech boom. The difference that Clinton actually significantly reduced the dept in his boom and Bush in his "boom" barely touched it, even with his creative accounting.
But don't worry, once the tax cuts on the rich (not you) expire that will knock a third off the deficit on its own. That and an improving economy could start the trend of the fiscally irresponsible Clinton years again. Of course it may not, but who wants to go back to those days of fiscal irresponsibility and dept reduction, eh?
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 1:01 AM in reply to Kitcha
this is another graph I like that you wont see on hannity
http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4bb614577f8b9a1667ae0100/chart-020510-update.gif
Basicly job losses started going down the second Obama was elected.
Now this can be interpreted in a number of ways, such as there was less jobs to lose after The horrific early losses, so the number of jobs imploding had to go down. But can you imagine the reaction if that graph was held up at a tea party rally?
that and the dept graph should tell you something about who is more fiscally effective, or at least has a better record, if you follow the numbers and not the rhetoric.
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nodonjuan
April 14, 2010 1:24 AM in reply to Kitcha
If your so upset, why is your anger surfacing now. Bush's war that was going to cost nothing has cost at least a trillion dollars. The bank bailout that happened was under his watch. He expanded the federal government far more than anyone since FDR. Where was the protesting then? W's expansion of Medicare prescription bill was nothing but a stunt to get seniors on board his train for the second term. Here is a link that I find useful.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/06/your_deficit_in_charts.html
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Kitcha
April 14, 2010 1:15 PM in reply to nodonjuan
I took a look at the graph and I'm just wondering why the extension of the Bush policies and the stimulus bill don't count as being part of the Obama agenda. If you could clear it up for me I'd appreciate it, as I'm not sure where to find the answer on my own (though I'll try!).
I wasn't politically involved at all before now. I was stuck in planet Kitcha. I guess you could say the health care debate woke me up. It's not that I don't think people should be able to lead healthy lives - I just don't think other people should be forced to pay for the well-being of the masses. Parents ought to take care of their children until they are adults. Adults ought to take care of their aging parents. Those who can't do these things on their own or don't have appropriate caregivers ought to seek help from individuals or charity groups who are willing and able (not forced) to provide for them. Healthcare is STILL just a conglomeration of goods and services that cost money. The great thing about capitalism is that it encourages innovation that tends to yield more affordable methods of providing desirable goods and services.
I say again that I'm very new at understanding politics...but I really LOVE Glenn Beck so far. He seems like a pretty honest and down-to-earth guy who appears to know the facts and does his best to portray them in a straight-forward and well-supported manner. If you want to change this opinion of mine (which will lead me to try to convince my friends and family of the same) please give me reasonably supported reasons (back up your rationale and cite your sources if you can).
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 10:04 PM in reply to Kitcha
Because the last Bush budget only ran out in November 2009, for a start.
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Kitcha
April 15, 2010 6:49 AM in reply to Sir T
Ok, then to be fair we'll just have to wait and see how the pie looks at the end of Obama's turn.
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Sir T
April 15, 2010 9:33 PM in reply to Kitcha
Also, on Glenn Beck, you owe it to yourself to read this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/exposing-glenn-beck-as-a_b_537491.html
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teaparty77
April 13, 2010 11:48 PM
I hope Mr. Levin is wealthy, because if any of the "REAL" Tea Partiers are harmed by people he has incited on his sites, we will surely sue him......
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theCakes
April 13, 2010 11:56 PM in reply to teaparty77
Unless we see some of that tort reform.
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SkeeterVT
April 13, 2010 11:57 PM
Jason Levin, you are an IDIOT!
By going public with saying that you plan ti infiltrate Tea Party rallies with outrageous antics in an effort to discredit them, you are in fact, discrediting progressives by playing right into the hands of Fox News and other right-wing media who will now have perfect justification to say that the whackos in the Tea Party movement are realy "outside agitators."
Dumbass!
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theCakes
April 14, 2010 12:03 AM in reply to SkeeterVT
It's been debunked as a hoax, seemingly.
I like that they made Levin a thruther, nice touch.
http://open.salon.com/blog/greg_correll/2010/04/13/right-wing_hoax
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teaparty77
April 14, 2010 12:09 AM
It isn't a hoax, he has web sites and FaceBook sites set up..
He is inciting agitators...and to think he teaches children, what a great influence on kids...
Hope he has a nice house, since if anyone gets hurt we will own it !
Jason, have you noticed how Obama has treated Israel ?
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theCakes
April 14, 2010 12:25 AM in reply to teaparty77
Because setting up a website and a Facebook page makes you legitimate somehow? Riiiight.
Hoax.
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Opal
April 14, 2010 12:37 AM in reply to teaparty77
It seems like a hoax. It is really easy to set up a Facebook page and a single-page website. You could probably do the Facebook page in 10 minutes or so. The host of the one-page website is a Republican. I think this is just a Republican hoax that can be used to distance the more crazed of the tea party movement from the overall movement in an attempt to make the movement look less radical.
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JTG
April 14, 2010 12:31 AM
THIS, AS I POSTED ON THE CRASHTHEPARTY SITE (somewhat proofed, edited since then) ...
I would think it's obvious, but just to point up the problem...
This afternoon that evil afterbirth Hannity gave this site a nice big shout-out. See, he was going at length (with that special excited energy of his that does such violence to the laws of reason and the grammar of English) about how the liberals are infiltrating the Tea Party meetings so as to act out caricatures of "these loyal, patriotic Americans" - so as to paint them as racists and ignorami.
My point being this: in establishing this site, this project (movement, cause, Broderbund ... whatever) to this purpose, all you've really done (other than stroke your own egos) has been to give the Teaheads a beard for their racist, birthist, homophobic pustulations (yes, that’s "PUS-tulations"; not a typo).
And so, now, whenever one of their little speakers-from-the-heart cuts loose with what he's really thinking (I use the word advisedly), or brandishes his sub-literate, mis-spelled "niggar" or "Hoosain oBUMa" Sharpie-scrawled sign at a rally and it gets picked up by the media ... why, clearly it's the work of those hypocritical, Alinsky-inspired socialist-marxist-nazi-hate-America-and-real-Americans saboteurs from CRASH THE TEA PARTY.
And if you don't think that's how they’re going to be spinning it, you’re fools.
Why give them the ammunition, the firm ground for spin traction?
Think about it.
.............
This project is little more than an exercise in self-satisfying self-indulgence.
Put your energy into something productive. Yes, keep your eye on the Baggers; yes, record, note, index, collate, parse - and disseminate - every bit of evidence of their real feelings, real positions, real agenda (for instance, no non-whites allowed) every chance you get.
But, goof and spoof because you think this sort of child's-play will somehow monkey-wrench their movement? You're kidding yourselves.
Have fun.
But grow up a little along the way too, okay?
Just a little.
For your country's sake.
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sully18
April 14, 2010 1:39 AM
"The infiltrators swore off violence." I don`t think so.This kind of perpetration is violence.It`s a violation of the "tea party er`s right to be stupid.How is out-stupiding these idiots going to confront their ignorant message?
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John
April 14, 2010 2:55 AM
I don't think I have heard anything so worrying in a while. It is no wonder that print media have not been covering such disturbing behavior. As such their integrity is nothing like this online medium.
www.newspaperintegrity.com
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matt621
April 14, 2010 3:48 AM
THIS IS GREAT! So now the crashers will try to make the Tea Party members look stupid. But wait... If everyone knows the crashers are at the tea party, now the viewing public will know the stupid signs are from the crashers and not the real tea party members. So the viewing public will ignore the stupid signs (like they have been doing all along) and concentrate on the message of the tea party. Smaller government, less intrusive government, restoring the republic, outing the socialist agenda of this administration and ... oh yea, that the leftists can't win on the merits of the issues, but can only try disingenuous and deceitful tactics to try and taint the tea party members, at the same time drawing attention to themselves as self righteous idiots. BRILLIANT!!!
(Man, those Marxist ideologues are really smart people, huh? Makes you wonder why it always fails.)
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myerman
April 14, 2010 7:05 AM
Submitted for your approval -- Who are you better than? http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565866
I think it sums it all up brilliantly.
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Kaneblues
April 14, 2010 7:10 AM
This thread ranks in the Top 10 in the history of threads and Top Tens.
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Rizz56
April 14, 2010 7:43 AM
The irrational tone of this whole idea is hard to grasp. This guy's attitude stinks ... "Free speech is perfectly ok ... as long as you agree with me." Then he has to pretend to be what he accuses the Tea Parties of being in order to prove that the Tea Parties are what he's pretending to be. What?! And you accuse the folks at the Tea Parities of being wack-jobs?!
This idea of infiltrating another American grass roots movement is sick. What, you can't stand the competition? Very un-American. But what is really pathetic about this is that the "Left" doesn't need provocateurs in order to foment violence. It happens spontaneously on its own! Just disagree with them and watch what happens.
And by the way, I'm not a member of a Tea Party. Been to a few (w/o a sign) to see what it's all about and express my own thoughts on this mess in our country. But I have issue with some of their motives - I'm not interested in Party Politics ... just freedom, the Constitutional way.
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Barney
April 14, 2010 8:09 AM
On the next episode of "Stupid Criminals Caught on Tape"..
...Jason Levin who was dumb enough to announce his intentions is caught on tape trying to create disturbances and attempt violence.
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 12:44 PM in reply to Barney
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/faking-victimhood-just-how-hurt-was
Run away barney
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Silence
April 14, 2010 8:11 AM
The TEA parties have been peaceful from the start. 0 arrests at the 9/12 march. The only violence reported at a TEA party originated from left-wing SEIU thugs. Yup. They beat up an innocent black man selling TEA party flags and buttons.
Should violence erupt at one of these events, the finger of blame will most certainly point to the left.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 9:14 AM in reply to Silence
The Tea Party is already heavily infiltrated by white power militias. If it goes violent, it's because that exactly what these people want. In honor of Tim McVeigh, the nuts will start something. Of course, there could also be law enforcement provocateurs that want to create a mess.
In short, there are a lot of people who want the Tea Party movement to get violent and crazy. Just ask your local KKK branch.
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Silence
April 14, 2010 9:38 AM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
KKK? Talk about paranoia! LOL
Hundreds of thousands of law-abiding, taxpaying citizens have attended TEA parties. Except for a few SEIU beat downs, violence has been a non-existent. Perhaps, the "really scary" TEA partiers are everyday citizens with legitimate concern for the fiscal health of their country. If the TEA party was secretly composed of KKK, don't you think there would have been a few crazy cross burnings or hangings by now?
Be careful what you wish for. Someday, you'll want to exercise your first amendment rights. It would be tragic if they no longer existed.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 10:15 AM in reply to Silence
There is no doubt whatsoever that various right wing hate groups have infiltrated the Tea Party movement, as has the FBI and the ATF.
Your nuts, kooks, and racists are under constant surveillance.
Don't try another Timothy McViegh stunt. Don't even think about it. Maybe you should take some responsibility and get some control over your mob.
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Silence
April 14, 2010 10:22 AM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
Good Lord, man. Pull yourself together.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 11:07 AM in reply to Silence
Your Tea Party candidate in New York in not only an overt rascist, but seems to a bestiality issue with horses. I most states that's a crime. I he comes sneaking around my neighborhood, the residents will beat him with sticks. Your Senate candidate in Nevada is up on felony charges. Your mob and its leadership are out of control.
Your nuts, kooks, and racists are under constant surveillance by both FBI and ATF.
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 12:42 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
Just bookmark this link
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/faking-victimhood-just-how-hurt-was
And throw it at him every time he and Barney repeat the same lie about this attack, because he will. And don't bother arging with him, just prove hes a fucking liar and leave him to steam. He will never reply, as he's lying and knows hes lying. The Gladney attack was faker than a plastic chicken served in nuggets in McFake.
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 12:39 PM in reply to Silence
Oh for fucks sake, I shredded this for you weeks ago. Here it is again ignoramus
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/faking-victimhood-just-how-hurt-was
"This weekend the righties got all worked up about the supposed "brutality" of union thugs in St. Louis who they say beat up a black conservative tea partier named Kenneth Gladney who came out to protest the Obama health-care plan on Thursday. They even had a big protest the next day, along with a press conference featuring Gladney in a wheelchair.
But take a look at the video of the supposed assault. It enters the scene a bit late -- an SEIU member is already on the ground and appears to be injured, but we can't tell what the cause was. As he's laying there, other SEIU members come to his protection, and one of them pulls down Gladney; both men fall to the pavement. Both quickly get back up. There appears to be little to it. [A section of the video showing the supposed assault is in slow motion.]
Indeed, it's readily apparent that Gladney seems completely unhurt. He wanders out to the crowd, chats with the cameraman, flags down a cop, and saunters back to where police decide to handcuff the man who knocked him down. As you can hear, the man protests that he was just keeping Gladney away from his fallen friend.
The next day, Gladney is at the press conference in a wheelchair. He claims to be too medicated to speak, so his lawyers and fellow tea partiers do it for him.
Does this seem real to you? Sure looks fake to me."
You keep saying the same lie, I'll keep posting the same video of the same attack. But I know you will be back doing this in a few weeks.
And as for your other bullshit claim, there was 100,000 leftwingers marching the same time you had a few thousand TPers hanging around the capitol building with Fox all over them trying to find creative camera angles to make the crowd look bigger. No arrests there either. You can tell because they were not all over the news.
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H C Carey
April 14, 2010 8:13 AM
This is an unbelievably bad idea. It's fundamentally dishonest. Anybody on the left should repudiate this kind of thing as quickly as possible.
I can't believe it's really true, because it's so dumb.
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victor U
April 14, 2010 8:51 AM
Oh wow, I never really thought about it that way before. Makes sense.
Lou
www.whos-watching.es.tc
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NBlanchette
April 14, 2010 10:07 AM
The majority of the comments on this page read like there from a bunch of silly petty children. If the Tea Party is as bad as you say they are, why do you need to resort to trickery to discredit them. Could it be your intimidated by them? And what about our most basic of values called free speech. Is this what the Obama election has turned us into. Pretty disgusting if you ask me.
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rosehips
April 14, 2010 10:09 AM
lol @ spyes and interloopers
TPM, thanks for the traffic to my blog. My post on Jason Levin's Manifesto has gotten much interest. If anyone is interested, here's the link again.
http://tonsofwash.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/flash-jason-levins-manifesto/
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Barbara O'Brien
April 14, 2010 10:23 AM
Jason Levin is an idiot. All he's doing is providing innoculation for wingnuts. From now on, whenever any one of them says or does something stupid at a rally, they'll all claim it's just the work of liberal infiltrators.
Clue: When your opponents are busily making themselves ridiculous, stand aside and let them do it.
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weezie.jefferson
April 14, 2010 10:26 AM in reply to Barbara O'Brien
Agreed.
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Brownbagger
April 14, 2010 11:09 AM in reply to weezie.jefferson
Me, too.
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Brownbagger
April 14, 2010 11:14 AM in reply to Brownbagger
Although, I'm not certain Jason isn't a rightwing operative.
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theWalrus
April 14, 2010 6:46 PM in reply to Brownbagger
I thought that too but I just watched the news interview with him.
Nope. He's just an idiot.
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Brownbagger
April 14, 2010 6:58 PM in reply to theWalrus
America. Got to love it. Idiots are free to affiliate. Sigh.
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Renman42
April 14, 2010 11:14 AM
Stupid idea. Gives the TP-ers an out. Let them be stupid all be themselves...
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 11:27 AM
Agreed. It's a bad idea.
However, it's likely to compel the Tea Party organizers to find out just exactly who is coming to their meetings and rallies. They will find that there are some far right nuts that they really don't want to be associated with. There will be a purge.
Ultimately, this purge will be good for the tea baggers. More Repubican party operatives will gain leadership positions.
Levin's stunt will benefit the tea baggers. It will probably drive out some of the truly dangerous elements.
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Silence
April 14, 2010 11:46 AM
Wall street is doing quite well under this administration.
Whatever happened to screams of "BIG THIS" and "BIG THAT" that once streamed from the left, anti-corporate rant machine? The oil companies are driving up gas prices again,*crickets", Wall Street execs are earning huge bonuses and raking in massive profits, *crickets".
Yet, the little guy is suffering terribly, *crickets".
Correction. The little guy is out on the streets protesting while the left is doing everything possible to shut him up.
The times They are a changin'.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 12:12 PM in reply to Silence
The libertarian faction of the Tea Party will be crushed by the Corporate Republicans. They will not relinquish their wealth and power.
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Silence
April 14, 2010 1:40 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
Looks to me like the left is hammering the little guy.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 1:52 PM in reply to Silence
What does "the left" have to do with anything?
You speak as if "the left" has some impact on "the little guy."
That is just nutty. The left has no power in this country and never has.
You are not making any sense to at all.
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Silence
April 14, 2010 3:21 PM in reply to JoeTheMechanic
If the Obama administration is not left, what is it?
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Sir T
April 14, 2010 10:32 PM in reply to Silence
Centerist.
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Kitcha
April 15, 2010 6:53 AM in reply to Sir T
God save us all if the Obama administration is centrist. I would hate to see what lies to the left of that.
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Wargasm
April 14, 2010 12:55 PM
Just remember folks... what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. The problem with introducing dirty tactics is that nothing prevents your opponents from using them as well.
Anyone applauding this "party crasher" should consider that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, just to name two examples, have far greater reach than Jason Levin ever will. And that for every "Joe the Plumber" who's destroyed there's also a Dan Rather... Van Jones... ACORN...
Many here seem to approve of coarsening the dialogue even further. That's fine. Just don't complain when suddenly your own pet "cause" becomes the target of dirty tricks.
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SummerOne
April 14, 2010 12:59 PM
It will backfire and rightly so.
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inokeah
April 14, 2010 1:14 PM
Wow, This is "Free Speech" in the Obama World!?
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matt621
April 14, 2010 1:39 PM
THIS IS GREAT! So now the crashers will try to make the Tea Party members look stupid. But wait. If everyone knows the crashers are at the tea party, now the viewing public will know the stupid signs are from the crashers and not the real tea party members. So the viewing public will ignore the stupid signs (like they have been doing all along) and concentrate on the message of the tea party. Smaller government, less intrusive government, restoring the republic, outing the socialist agenda of this administration and ... oh yea, that the leftists can't win on the merits of the issues, but can only try disingenuous and deceitful tactics to try and taint the tea party members, at the same time drawing attention to themselves as self righteous idiots. BRILLIANT!!!
(Man, those Marxist ideologues are really smart people, huh? Makes you wonder why it always fails.)
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bracken
April 14, 2010 1:55 PM
There's substantial evidence that Jason Levin is a wingnut plant.
No, little matty, it's the WINGNUTS, also known as BIRTHERS, also known as MORONS, who can't debate the issues. They also can't see that their precious Tea Bags have been filled with dried cow manure by their fellow travelers. Naw, they brew it up and drink it down.
All you Tea Baggers have is rank ignorance, ingrained stupidity, bigotry and racism that's ground in like the dirt beneath your fingernails, and a massive little-man-syndrome frustration that's directly related to how you didn't Get Any and Bill Clinton DID.
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Dennis
April 14, 2010 2:34 PM in reply to bracken
Your post didn't actually say anything. It's just a jumble of name-calling. Pretty pathetic way to try to make a point, bracken.
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Dennis
April 14, 2010 2:22 PM
Funny how many of the posts here supporting Levin have misspelled words in them. How idiotic for Levin to make fun of misspelled Tea Party signs, while so many his supporters can't even get their own spelling right.
All of you who throw around the sexual epithet "teabagger" are weak minded. Your name-calling exposes the limitation of your intellect. Can't fight what someone says with logic? Call them a racist! Can't find the words to express your own ideas? Label them with a sexual slur. Has the Left always been so churlish?
You've convinced yourselves that members of the Tea Party movement are all hicks and yokels, and while it may have its small share, the vast majority are simply hard-working Americans who don't think the way you do and are sick of being dictated to and stolen from by Washington. Grow up people, and defend your ideas with reason, and without the name-calling.
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 2:52 PM in reply to Dennis
I didn't know that you don't want to be called tea baggers. You say it has a sexual meaning? I'm not aware of this. What is tea bagging? Why is it that you don't want to be called a tea bagger?
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 2:26 PM
These Tea baggers are really nutty. They seem to think they are in conflict with a "leftist socialist" government.
I think they actually believe it.
It's as if the military industrial complex didn't even exist. Vanished! The people have seized the means of production!
Dream on baggers, dream on.
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Oregon Activist
April 14, 2010 3:25 PM
They are crazy enough without any help. Moreover, why give them an in-built excuse for bad behavior. Now anytime some jerk says some awful thing, rather than being able to hold the group accountable for their crazies, they can just say, "he's probably a liberal infiltrator"
PErhaps the alleged prankster really is a rightwinger agitprop genius pretending to be a liberal in order to create an innate, permanent excuse for all tea party misbehavior.
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John W Gillis
April 14, 2010 3:29 PM
This guy (Jason Levin) is essentially saying that dishonesty is a foolproof political strategy. I wouldn't be so sure about that, but it's astounding that most of the commenters here don't even seem to care that such a strategy is being employed in the first place.
If you have to be deceitful and misrepresent your opponent through lies, exaggerations, and blatant attempts to incite bad behavior (framing), why wouldn't that make you stop to wonder about the justness of your cause? Do you people really care so little how immoral this conspiracy is?
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AE
April 14, 2010 3:55 PM
I'm convinced that this whole thing is a hoax: http://open.salon.com/blog/greg_correll/2010/04/13/right-wing_hoax
If TPM can explain the ownership of the websites, etc. they should let us know. It reads like a big bucket of BS to me.
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Lord Humongous
April 14, 2010 3:59 PM
Just imagine, given the divergence of opinion as to what this will accomplish at Tea Party rallies on this blog, what will happen at the real McCoy. Everyone is twisting themselves into knots over this already-it seems the goal has been reached before the game has started-the Tea baggers will police themselves and calm down their crazies.
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icebluee67@aol.com
April 14, 2010 4:43 PM
THERE IS SICK & THEN THERE IS SICKEST !!! JUST IMAGINE OVER 400 COMMENTS WASTED ON SOME IDIOTIC IDEA SUCH AS THIS--
JUST HOW DOES THIS HELP THE COUNNTRY THAT YOU LIVE IN, OR ITS CITIZENS-- EL JERKO -fyi- THE TEA PATRIES EXIST TO SUPPORT OUR MAJESTIC COUNTRY , THIS IS NOT A GAME !!
YOU FRITTER AWAY YOUR TIME & ENERGY ON NONSENSE, GUESS WHERE IT WILL LEAD YOU ALL ! ! !
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JoeTheMechanic
April 14, 2010 5:18 PM in reply to icebluee67@aol.com
I dunno. Where?
Perhaps we could become screaming idiots?
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rosehips
April 14, 2010 6:53 PM
AE, I've been telling everyone it is a hoax and I know why, but not many people are listening. I've done several blogs about the hoax. Jason is just a creative guy with an oversized ego. No big conspiracy. But people will believe what they want to hear and the scandalous stuff attracts more veiwers, listeners and bloggers.
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Barney
April 14, 2010 7:53 PM
Look at this leftard counter-protestor in Boston today
http://spitfiremurphy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tea-party-2.jpg
What a fucking genuius
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sillycita
April 14, 2010 9:00 PM
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ Attention paranoid tea partiers: Get your Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie here! Stop mind control now!
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sillycita
April 14, 2010 9:33 PM
I say let the tea partiers shine without benefit of "leftist" scapegoats. They're the best thing that could happen to the democrats! Most republicans are probably horrified by these hatemongers and will want to distance themselves from the idea that they in any way represent their party. Let the far right republicans continue to court these fools and we'll all benefit when the mainstream voters speak.
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BenjaminFabon
April 14, 2010 10:50 PM
There's not enough space here for me to write all I want. I just wrote a longer response to this in my blog.
Please feel free to check it out.
http://wp.me/pOE4Z-t
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Rick
April 15, 2010 5:42 AM
I've read this article about Jason Levin and his plans and have read the emails in support of him. I just don't see the Tea Partiers as the real morons, bigots and crazies in this case. Sorry.
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ltb
April 15, 2010 12:34 PM
If you Liberals weren’t such pathetic morons you would almost be laughable. Also, would you stop calling these people “Tea Baggers?” Tea bagging is something that liberal males do to other liberal males (e.g., Barney Frank was caught tea bagging his male intern in a Capitol building toilet yesterday) and a tea bagger party is what happens when 20 liberal males get together. On the other hand, Tea Partiers are people who pay taxes and are tired of giving handouts to freeloaders on the Left. Anyway, let me get this straight… you imbeciles on the Left actually have to infiltrate Tea Party events and perpetrate acts of idiocy in order to make Tea Partiers appear the way you have painted them? Wow! What acts of genius, integrity and courage!
I know Liberals detest facts, being the compulsive liars that they are, but here are some interesting ones: When over 1.2 million Tea Partiers (or 70,000 if you’re a moronic liberal who can’t count above 21 without his pants being unzipped) attended the 9/12 tax protest in ’09, Capitol police were amazed by how peaceful, respectful and tidy the people were. As a matter of fact, tea partiers left D.C. as clean as they found it and placed garbage where it belongs (i.e., in garbage cans). On the other hand, lazy, slovenly Liberals left over 100 tons of garbage strewn over every square inch of DC after Obama (lying thief) was inaugurated.
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Josh H
April 16, 2010 2:52 PM
If there's anything that screams rational and intelligent thought, it's typing in all caps and accusing someone of homosexuality.
And I'd love to know where "1.2 million" came from, seeing as "hundreds of thousands" is the best the official 9/12 protest website can come up with. Oh wait, Tea Partiers don't actually like looking anything up. That's why Sarah Palin is able to play them like a fiddle, playing up to fears instead of actually spouting facts.
If they were REALLY upset about the way the government spends money, they would have marched on Washington during the years of the Bush Administration, when they straight up lied about how much money would be spent. I guess when you can strap billions of dollars onto an airplane and kill some brown people though, it's okay, so long as people in America can buy still buy their iPods and watch NASCAR.
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IndisputableAttitude
April 16, 2010 5:25 PM
This guy has a Jewish last name, "Levin". That will surely fire up the anti-Semites.
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scoob
May 25, 2010 3:52 PM
Levin tried to hide his domain registrant information by posing as "Ben Franklin", however a complaint filed with ICANN has forced his registrar to post his real name and address:
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Tosh
June 5, 2010 10:33 PM
Well, on many levels I agree with you. I'd like to see a whole lot more fight from the Dems than we ever see.
But if we go your way, then pretty soon we'll have armed goon squads shooting at each other in the streets -- because there will be no holds barred on anything. If we stoop to the level of the Rethugs on everything the whole country is in deep trouble.
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domainguru2010
July 9, 2010 2:28 AM
If you have to be deceitful and misrepresent your opponent through lies, exaggerations, and blatant attempts to incite bad behavior (framing), why wouldn't that make you stop to wonder about the justness of your cause? Do you people really care so little how immoral this conspiracy is?
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