NV-SEN Candidate Sue Lowden (R): 'Barter With Your Doctor' (VIDEO)

This is a leading UNITED STATES SENATORIAL CANDIDATE. JUST WOW.

1. Like saving $20,000 is so easy to do.

2. Like $20,000 will cover more than 2 days in the hospital if you really got sick.

3. Like she's anything besides a right-wing dumbass.

She's either never had a medical problem, or never been without a cadillac plan for health insurance. Or both.

And I'll give you $100 for that rug in your office, Dr. Ali Baba.

Since they've already stopped using cash, the state of Nevada must be just like that nuclear wasteland in Six String Samurai.

I'll give you 5 chickens, a shotgun and a woman of child-bearin' age for my appendectomy, doc. And that's my final offer!

Sweet Sue making good sense. Pay cash, or paint doc's house, avoid all the extra charges from rip-off pathology labs and all the co-pay nonsense. This lady needs to be in the US Senate. Sue, Sue, we want you! Harry Reid, we don't need.

And I gots me a hankerin' fer one o' them fancy white doctorin' coats fer the missus....

On top of this, she doesn't seem to know the difference between the word "barter" and "bargain." She clearly means the latter.

I would like to know how the god party, FAUX news beckians took in that piece of information.

She doesn't quite get the full conservative points here - her followup recommendation for people who don't have $20k in their HSA wasn't "try prayer". :)

How much health care can I get with the 2 goats and a large block of cheese I have for trade?

Fembot!!!

I think I will barter with my doctor.

But only with Mrs. Lowden's vagina.

I hate to disappoint all of you TPM naysayers but I can attest that bartering with health care providers works.

Why last fall I was told that I needed a heart valve replaced. After a little "haggling" my surgeon and I agreed to a "barter." He performed the valve replacement in exchange to three goats and a pig. Additionally, some more "haggling" he agreed to use one of the heart valves from the pig as my replacement valve.

To top it all off, a few eeeks after the operation he and I got our families together for a fine and dandy ole fashioned pig roast. "Use everything but the squeal" is my doc's motto.

So Ms. Lowden, we're WAY ahead of you.

The only hitch is that next week I see my urologist. I'm dreading that "haggleing" / "bartering" session!

As some politician said a couple months ago: Any system that relies on the sheep negotiating with the wolves is doomed to failure.

Hold on now, maybe Mrs. Lowden is on to something here, maybe she has bartered successfully with her doctor. Perhaps free gyno exams in the broom closet or free mamograms at a cheap hotel with a few of said doctor's colleagues. Second opinions and all.

What I do know is a couple of times I felt like I should have gotten paid after coughing more than a few times.

The more I read about her, the more I want her to run. Seems, ahem, allegedly, she was hot for McToast in 08 and tried to 'influence' the NV Repub party's delegate to the National Convention vote. Sweet. She and her husband are worth tens of millions and Sue was a news anchor, beauty queen, elem teacher, philanthropist and state party chair. Wow. How's that for a modern conservative woman's resume? Classic.

She did all the right things for or rather to, the right people at the right time to be a leader of the right. I wonder if she has any kind of inner life at all...or if she is just something like the shell of a human being. Cuz, if that's true and she got that way from chasing her version of the American Dream, I could understand why she would think bartering/haggling with doctors is just hunky-dory, you betcha.

You're going to have to haggle with more than your doctor. If you go to the ER be prepared to haggle with all of the following, oh and this is while trying to recover from what ever in the Hell put you in the ER in the first place! You will be sick and it will be your responsiblity to haggle.

1. HOSPITAL, have fun haggling with them.
2. Your primary care physician.
3. Additional physicans and professional staff called for an opinion.
4. Radiology company, may not be part of hospital
5. the LAB, usually not part of hospital
6. Let's not forget the PHARMACY! Where the haggling is ongoing.
7. Physical Therapist
8. And many, many, many more !!!

Btw, I have a mortgage, no costly vices, never take a vacation, never buy anything new, and we have a total of $3,000.00 in savings.

OK. She obviously meant "bargain." It's just scary that she didn't catch her slip of the tongue after about the 4th time she said it.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with her that putting a cap on HSA/FSA accounts isn't good. I think it is a good tool for middle and lower income families. Granted, $20,000 is ridiculous. The average that people put in is still lower than the cap, but the average family doesn't have chronic issues and big events like pregnancy to deal with every year. This year, my wife and I put in more than what the cap is getting set to because we knew she would deliver a baby this year and we'd eat through our deductible. Next year, we’ll probably be closer to the national average. I also know at least one person who puts in more than the current cap every year because his son has a chronic condition that costs them a lot in prescriptions. We are both middle income people. I think this provision will hurt mostly middle and lower income people who currently use it wisely.
But, I guess if that's my only complaint with the new law, I'll take it.

Yeah, that'll be real interesting at the roulette table when a hillbilly tries to put a chicken on red.

Dear Doctor Bud Duck,

I will give you a two hour session with my best, youngest, Ewe (Genuine Virgin Wool) in exchange for my annual prostate exam.

This Ewe's for Bud!

Sincerely,
Carl Paladino

Wonder if that Urologist in Florida will trade a box of tea for a penile exam?

What a typical Republican solution. Have people put money they don't have into an account that doesn't exist. It's brilliant!

And the best part is, it saves government "of the people and by the people" from having to do anything "for the people"!

Stupid cow.

Oh wow!

She didn't mean barter. She meant "haggle."

That really changes everything!

So I'll go in and haggle with my doctor over the price of a CT Scan. "Doctor, I'll pay you $50 and no more. Take it or leave it."

Its hard to believe, but this airhead makes Sarah Palin look smart.

It just occured to me that Republicans' idea of utopia looks a lot like a Mad Max movie. No government, desertification, lots and lots of guns and violence, and, of course, barter. Innovative alternative dispute resolution methods rather than courts of law.

So what's the going rate for a Botox injection in Bartertown, out there in the middle of your government-free desert paradise, dear?

Since she said "barter" and not "haggle" or "bargain" (as a verb)-- let's take her at her word.

And then, let's ask the IRS how they feel about "barter" as an economic policy.

I don't think anyone should be so quick to jump on the Bargain not Barter BS. They are in Nevada after all and she's not bad looking. "I'm sure we could think of something, now couldn't we doctor?"

Consider what Nevada's other Senator (Ensign the Republican) has done in business arrangements her proposition seems to echo a rather ancient business that is legal in all but three of Nevada's counties. Might even be a new use of Joe Biden's BFD line.

Cash,most doctors and hospitals won't take you without insurance Dumb lady listen, they charge you more if you have cash . Obviously this bimbo has never been with out insurance a day in her life

That's right, pay the doctor off with a layer, or a dozen eggs. Actually, I understand the concept of the barter system as a way of obtaining goods and services in the absence of cash, but I don't see how it would ever work in the corporate world of health. Can you just see someone trying to barter with CVS for drugs, or Mass General Hospital (a for profit hospital) for an MRI?

My doctor is so busy he's stopped taking new patients. I'm sure I've got lots of leverage with him. On the other hand, I know of a doctor not too far away that's got lots of openings now that his license revocation hearing is over. I'll bet I can bargain his prices down.

Is the photo from an ad she did? I can nearly hear the birds singing. Massengil, was it?

When I see my doctor, he charges $500 for a complete physical, but the price drops $100 (to $400) if I include a digital rectal exam in the physical, and another $50 if I include a "testicular" cough test. (PS - He also offers absolution at the end of the exam . . . you figure it out). The question is this: Is that they type of ?barter" or "haggling" she is talking about? Or should I just find a new doctor who does not base the pricing of his medical examinations on whether male patients allow him to insert his finger into their asses, or to fondle their balls while coughing?

Sue, I tried bartering with my doctor as you suggested and he flatly said, "NO." So I pushed some more on his prices and my doctor said he would no longer treat me.

Now what Sue??

Hey, you know, this might just work in Virginia. Our state theater is "The Barter Theatre," started during the Depression by an out-of-work actor who returned home from New York City and had the idea that allowing farmers to trade produce for an evening's entertainment might not be a bad idea. The actors would get something to eat, and the farmers could get something in return for produce they couldn't sell.

Of course, the Barter Theatre didn't allow the price to be negotiated down. You could either pay cash for your ticket, or the equivalent amount in produce. Four out of five patrons in the early days paid in produce.

Somehow I think doctors might not be so wild about this idea, though.

In the past two years, I have had three eye operations, a blood clot removal due to Deep Vein Thrombosis , a hernia operation, suture of an eyelid to prevent eyelid droop which otherwise would have resulted in cornea damage due to dry eye, foot care on an every three month basis due to a chronic toe infection, and I will be going in for an angiogram and possible angioplasty in the next few weeks. Then there is my twice yearly dental exam and care.
what exactly am I , at 77 years of age ,to offer these doctors and hospitals in barter---and they wouldn't be seeing me again if I tried to haggle with them. I suppose barter might have worked in a frontier society in which the doctor got all sorts of things from his patients in exchange for medical care. Not in our busy highly commercialized society of today

This woman is a fucking dimbulb.

Which means she'll be a perfect fit for the GOP Senate caucus.

"Barter?" Does she mean "bargain"? Or "haggle"? Doesn't "barter" mean to trade goods or services instead of using cash? What's she talking about here? What is she advising that women trade for medical services?

Is Lowden suggesting that people pay the Dr bill with sex? She is from NV where that sort of thing is legal.

Nevada leads the nation in low-info voters and is ranked in the bottom states in education. Gibbons, Ensign, Heller and Lowden reflect those facts and that constituency.

Chicken feed, chicken shit and Nevada's unusual laws on legal personal services aside, the savings accounts are worth discussing.
If the unused money could be rolled over to the next year, they would be good. If you are forced to spend everything by the end of the year, they just add to demand and drive up the cost of health care.