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"There's a lot of projection going on here. You keep throwing the liberal label around, even though I really haven't espoused any liberal beliefs or attitudes. You've made an assumption based on little to no actual evidence."

Except for "Really, shut the hell up and take that bullshit to Redstate." That is not a conservative or even a moderate talking. I made a reasonable assumption based upon evidence before my eyes.

"The reason why I make the comments that I do is because I know an idealogue when I see one, and I know that there isn't any common ground with an idealogue."

I concede, as a former liberal who knows how liberals think and FEEL, I have strong convictions. However, I am open to new information or rational arguments based upon facts, history, and thinking through the implications of policies. It is just that I see little of those things here from the left, and very few non-liberals are made to feel welcome here. Your reply to me is one of the milder responses I routinely get.

"You come on forums, spout your "facts" and "truths" and then in a very Rovian way attack people like me for your weaknesses".

I plead guilty to "spouting" facts and truths, as I and other rational people see them, but I don't "attack" them for MY weaknesses. I challenge them on the weaknesses of THEIR facts, logic, history, and lack of rational argument (but with plenty of name calling and profanity to make up for the above).

"The fact of the matter is that I am a pragmatic moderate."

It all depends on who is in the room with you. Perhaps in relation to Pete Stark, Ted Kennedy, Maxine Waters, or Hugo Chavez, you could be considered a moderate. Usually someone who calls themselves a "moderate" is just not honest enough to admit he or she is a liberal (which is understandable these days since most liberals avoid that label and call themselves moderates or "Progressives".

"A person who doesn't care about blame-shifting and winning or losing. I care about things that help this country out."

I will wait to see evidence of that.

"And I'm not trying to intimidate you, I don't bully people."

Of course not.

"I simply think that you need to stop trolling this site if you don't like the content and go to Redstate or National Review Online, where the forum and the reporting fit your attitudes and system of beliefs."

I don't subscribe to the circle jerk philosophy of forums. I came here to check out alternative and diverse views here and provide some balance and a point of view (and facts on occasion) that liberals usually are not exposed to and in fact avoid at all costs.

"I know you won't leave this site however, because you like to annoy people."

I am NOT here to annoy people, but I am here to get people to THINK, to question their own unquestioned positions, and to challenge me to do the same---which some here do in a good way. Check out my first quote on my profile under "favorite quotes". I really believe that.

"I admire the fact that you won't get into name calling, that's an admirable trait."

I try to avoid name calling but I can understand the temptation to call someone an idiot, etc.

"But what isn't admirable is the fact that you will not admit that both sides have problems and have put us in this situation. I've seen your posts, and for all the moral high-ground that you think that you're claiming, you don't acknowledge that.'

I have acknowledged that both sides have problems and will do so again when appropriate.

"And the refutation and quotes are coming in 3, 2, 1..."

No refutation and quotes unless you consider some of my responses as refutation of your statements.