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GOP's Candidate for Gov In Minnesota Wants To Nullify All Federal Laws


MN-GOV candidate Tom Emmer (R)

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The Minnesota Republican Party's official candidate to succeed Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is looking ahead to a 2012 run for President, is a staunch conservative well to Pawlenty's right who has a long history of "Tentherism," the attempts by the far right-wing to invoke the Tenth Amendment and nullify federal laws on various liberal initiatives. He has even proposed a state constitutional amendment that would allow federal laws to operate in Minnesota only if they were consented to by super-majorities of the state legislature.

State Rep. Tom Emmer picked up the official Republican endorsement at the party's convention this weekend, and he also walked away with the backing of Pawlenty himself. "We don't have any doubt about what Tom Emmer stands for or what his values are," Pawlenty said at the convention. "He is strong. He is steadfast. He is clear. ... He is going to be the next governor of the state of Minnesota." Emmer also has the support of Sarah Palin, who praised him just before the convention got underway as a "hockey dad" who once played for the University of Alaska-Fairbanks -- a move that may have been a tipping point, according to the Star-Tribune.

Emmer was first elected to the Minnesota House of Representatives in 2004. Just this past March, he was a co-author of a proposed state constitutional amendment that would, to borrow the words of Nigel Tufnel, turn the Tenth Amendment all the way up to 11, with Minnesota preemptively nullifying all federal laws unless a state supermajority consents to them. Here is the key quote from the amendment's text: "A federal law does not apply in Minnesota unless that law is approved by a two-thirds vote of the members of each house of the legislature and is signed by the governor. Before voting to approve a federal law, each legislator must individually affirm that the legislator has read the federal law and understands it."

Last September, Emmer proposed another state constitutional amendment that would prohibit any individual or employer mandate to carry health insurance in the state of Minnesota, if one were to eventually pass at the federal or state level (as it did eventually pass at the federal level). Here is a YouTube video of Emmer announcing his proposed amendment, courtesy of our friends at The Uptake:

"There have been some questions about the Tenth Amendment," Emmer acknowledged, "and we all know that states have the rights to assert their Tenth Amendment powers and affirm those rights in the state constitution." As for the skeptics, Emmer said that his amendment would protect Minnesotans from federal encroachment on health care, in the same way that the First and Second Amendments have protected freedom for the last 220 years."

In addition to Tentherism, Emmer is to the right of Pawlenty on of other issues. As the Star-Tribune lays out in a recent news article: "Emmer appears to be to the right of Pawlenty. State government, he says, should shrink by a full 20 percent and the welfare system dismantled. He considers Arizona's controversial new immigration law that has local police checking immigration status a 'wonderful first step.'"

In another amusing Emmer moment, a year ago he tore into a Democratic state representative for wanting to copy elements of environmental science and regulations from California and Europe, which the Dem in question felt were superior to the status quo in Washington or Minnesota. To Emmer, this was an example of liberals hating America:

"Oh oh, hey by the way, we also apparently have to look at this country and be extremely critical of the United States of America, and start kissing the rear end of the people on the other side of the Atlantic," Emmer said mockingly. "That's ridiculous, and I'm sick and tired of hearing it. I'm hearing it out of Washington, now I'm hearing it here. This is a great country, Rep. Knuth."

Minnesota political parties traditionally don't hold real primaries, but instead go through a system of precinct caucuses, county conventions and a state convention. If a candidate can get a super-majority of delegates at the state convention, like Emmer did this weekend, the party then officially endorses that candidate and the opponents are expected by custom to drop out. The August primary will still be officially held, but would be a mere formality. Emmer is, practically speaking, the Republican Party's official candidate now. (It should be noted that the Democrats, who have held their convention and endorsed a candidate, are still having a primary with some significant challengers.)

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May 3, 2010 1:17 PM   

He's a lunatic.

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May 3, 2010 1:22 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

He gives lunatics a bad name.

There may be pockets of crazy in Minnesota, but on the whole it's a rather liberal state. This kind of nuttiness is not going to fly very far.

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May 3, 2010 1:27 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

If he loses and Brady wins in Illinois, he'll no doubt be given a job here - probably running the equivalent of the EPA (DNR) or Department of Health and Family Services.

There is some mighty strong crazy in the GOP waters these days.

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May 3, 2010 1:58 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

The guy represents a state district that makes Michele Bachmann's look crazy-liberal.

Here's his district's demographics, in number and percentage:

3. Race and Hispanic
Universe: Total Population
White alone 36,091 98.3
Black alone 130 0.4
Amer Indian Alaska Native alone 85 0.2
Asian alone 44 0.1
Hawaiian and Other Pac Islander 13 0.0
Other Race alone 103 0.3
Two or More Races 292 0.8
Hispanic 362 1.0

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May 3, 2010 2:29 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

However, is this a bad thing? Now, given that this is the state which elected Jesse Ventura, are they really capable of electing this guy? Hard to believe.

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May 4, 2010 3:40 AM    in reply to George C

Don't knock Jesse. He did a lot better job than Sarah did and showed a whole lot more curiosity about how things worked than W ever did.

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May 3, 2010 5:24 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

No, by today's standards he's a mainstream Republican.

Okay, actually, that should be "yes, by today's standard's he's a mainstream Republican."

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May 3, 2010 8:41 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

I have to admit that I'm a little curious about a law like that. So that would mean that would apply to federal laws passed by Republicans, too. I wonder if there would be a possibility that future Republican laws would have a hard time getting 2/3 approval. I'll tell you one thing, if these idiots take control of the federal government again, we need to start thinking about our 10th Amendment rights in the blue states.

It's beginning to feel inevitable that these clowns are going to have their national power back pretty soon. And I think progressives need to start thinking about our next move. Personally, I feel we need to start doing more on the state level and focus on local as much as possible. Even if we have fewer blue states, but the ones we did have were bright blue and very progressive, and had real life successes on green economy and social issues. It is just becoming more and more evident that we are not going to be able to educate these people and we have stop letting them drag us down.

We have seen that purple states don't do us any long term good. And being democrat in the deep red states is just a waste. I currently live in Kentucky and we are considering moving to a blue state. I can't stand living in teabag country and I throw away my vote in every election. Heck, you pretty much have to be Republican in my home town to even get to vote in a primary. In my local election, there are upwards of 6 to 10 Republican candidates and maybe 1 democrat. All democrats are unchallenged. Most seats will be rewarded after the primaries. If more people like me, a blue blip on the heavy red radar screen, mobilized to more blue states and really started pursuing a progressive agenda and putting it into action, I think at least we would finally get the feeling we're achieving something. We may just have to settle for the Progressive States of America and let the rest wallow in their ignorance.

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May 3, 2010 1:27 PM   

I wonder how many sons of Minnesota gave their lives fighting against those who believed as this asshole does, that the states have the right to interposition? Someone from the Sons of Union Veterans should remind this piece of shit Republican of the blood that was shed against these ideas and that the party he seeks to represent was founded on the notion of fighting such beliefs.

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May 3, 2010 2:06 PM    in reply to oleeb

Do the Sons of Union Veterans exist? Overall, the "Union" side has done a really crappy job of reminding the nation what happened and why. It's sad that 150 yrs after 600,000 people died, we have a resurgence of this state's rights and nullification garbage. I agree with you that the Union supporters need to get out the message.

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May 3, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to Vincent F

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May 3, 2010 2:27 PM    in reply to Boidster

Thanks for the link. I wish these guys would get some TV time when the Sons of Confederate Veterans manage to have Confederate History Months adopted by southern state governments. I'd think the news organizations, seeking balance, would like to get the viewpoint of an organization of loyal American citizens who could express some outrage over the celebration of the Confederacy.

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May 3, 2010 2:52 PM    in reply to Vincent F

Unlike the confederates the Sons of Union Veterans organization doesn't participate in trying to rewrite history and doesn't engage in villifying the side their ancestors so thoroughly beat. And it's a real shame because they really ought to stand up and quit allowing those bums to besmirch the sacrifice their forefathers made with their lies.

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May 3, 2010 3:56 PM    in reply to oleeb

A very point. Such a position by this or a similar group would be quite powerful I should think.

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May 3, 2010 4:32 PM    in reply to oleeb

It is a shame b/c they would not be rewriting history but rather clarifying it. And as it stands today, the only voices we here on TV are the Confederates and black Americans such as John Lewis and others in the civil rights movement. All sides agree -- at least publicly -- that slavery was bad, but it would be good to get the word out that Union veterans have descendants too, and that the Union troops were the ones fighting to keep the nation together and put down an armed rebellion by white supremacists.

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May 3, 2010 6:40 PM    in reply to oleeb

I would wager that a lot of the Sons of Union vets are Eisenhower Republicans who may consider themselves Independents now and view Tentherism through the lens of how Neoconfederates interpret the 10th and not the new breed of Scrotum sucking loonies. I know a few who are Reagan Republicans who would not back a Democratic administration, its policies or positions under any circumstance so citing them in this instance is barking up the wrong tree. They view the vtenth argument inside the narrow frame as to whether or not Secession was legal and the Nullification Crises barely shows up on the radar.

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May 4, 2010 12:36 AM    in reply to Vincent F

but, how many news organizations these days, among the majors, truly seek balance?

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May 4, 2010 12:41 PM    in reply to lotl

They have two people on presenting opposing views, and don't bother to weight in with troublesome things like facts, or pointing out that one guest is lying. In any event, the opposing view to the neo-Confederates is usually an African-American civil rights person who says that slavery was horrible, and the Confederate says yes it was, but the Confederacy wasn't about slavery, its about heritage and history. It would be a good balance, since everyone agrees slavery was bad, to have the loyal Union perspective to ask the Confederate a question such as, so when you disagree with the federal government, its ok to secede and kill people? Is that what you are celebrating? Or, I wish my great-grandfather didn't have to die in Virginia fighting to uphold the Constitution and the greatest country on the planet from traitors who wanted to destroy the country to preserve slavery. Something like that.

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May 3, 2010 5:01 PM    in reply to oleeb

I wonder how many sons of Minnesota gave their lives fighting against those who believed as this asshole does, that the states have the right to interposition?

A lot of them did, proudly, and for specifically that reason. Minnesotans made up the the first state volunteer regiment formally tendered to the Federal government at the outset of the Civil War. They volunteered primarily for two reasons: the preservation of the union and opposition to slavery.

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May 4, 2010 3:44 AM    in reply to chimpale

I might also mention that a Minnesota regiment played a crucial role at Gettysburg in preventing the Confederates from occupying a strategic hill. Otherwise the Confederates may have won at Gettysburg with major repercussions for the Union effort.

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May 3, 2010 5:42 PM    in reply to oleeb

If nothing else, you'd think he'd have some knowledge of what the Minnesotans in Sherman's army did to the last state that got the nullification bug up it's ass.

Possibly he's counting on the narrow window between periods of glaciation to slow the Army when they roll the tanks in to suppress the rebellion.

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May 3, 2010 1:45 PM   

I guess Emmer's first (and most likely only) priority will be to move to Washington and lobby 2/3 of the states to put this on the ballots so our Constitution can be changed... or does he just "feel" this is the way our nation should work?
The bottom of the barrel is pretty deep nowdays.... IMHO

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May 3, 2010 1:46 PM   

Is this nullification retroactive? Does it mean every piece of Federal law has to be passed again by the Minnesota legislature?

I wonder how long it would take for the legislature to announce a vote on the 13th amendment, debate it, and get 2/3 support? Because, in the meantime, I'd like to buy a couple of slaves to work on my vast plantation.

Or, how about the Controlled Substances Act? I assume it's all well and good for me to start manufacturing, trafficking, and overdosing on meth, so long as I do so in the great state of Minnesota?

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May 3, 2010 5:50 PM    in reply to EnnuiDivine

A new meaning for 3M! Minnesota Meth and Marijuana

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May 3, 2010 1:48 PM   

No way this nut is getting elected in my state. Pawlenty never won a majority of the vote, and the Independence Party's election spoiler status has dwindled since 2002. He only won by 1% over a heavily gaffe-prone Democrat. And this guy Emmer is even further to the right.

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May 3, 2010 6:44 PM    in reply to Yash

My question is does he get out of a primary. That alone speaks to the level of ignorance and dementia of Minnesota Repugs.

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May 3, 2010 7:21 PM    in reply to Yash

I agree. But it might be a good thing for him to get elected to actually make the Republican voters in MN and and nationwide realize how far they've been pulled to the extreme right and that, as a result, they can't ever win presidential elections. Something has got to make Republicans wake up and realize (1) they're party is shrinking (2) they're party is all-pure of all white males and (3) they're never gonna win a major election being marginalized.

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May 3, 2010 2:12 PM   

I lived in Minnesota in the late sixties and early seventies, when it was one of the most progressive and enlightened states in the union. Even in its current disarray, it's hard to imagine that the North Star State could ever voluntarily elect a Confederate governor, but never say "never:" Here in Massachusetts we replaced Ted Kennedy with someone who thinks that America's greatness depends on a return to G.W. Bush values. ('Cause that really worked out, didn't it?)

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May 3, 2010 2:23 PM   

As a former long-term resident of MN I love the fact that the Republitards are going with this tool.

The 2006 Election saw an incumbent Pawlenty win less than 47% of the vote to 45% for the Martha Coakley-like Dem and 6% for the Independence Party candidate. For those who aren't familiar with the IP, it's basically a slightly left of center anti-Democratic establishment group. In 2002 the IP got 16%, coming off of Jesse Ventura's win in 1998 when they got 37%. As Yash noted, the IP is fading into irrelevancy.

No right-wing Republican can clear 45% of the vote in MN. Republicans here are mostly like Tim Penny and Arne Carlson-people so liberal they'd be chased out of the Republitard party anywhere else. So, the more of an idiot they go with, the easier the win.

For example - Michelle Bachmann could NEVER win statewide office of any kind. Her district is created just like the IA 5th to the south. Lump all the freaking crazies together and let them have their 1 vote in the House delegation.

So long as one of the losers in the Democratic primary doesn't decide to pull a Tim Penny and go IP (yes, I know Penny was an IR, but all Minnesotans knew he was a barely closeted DFL'er) this will be an easy pickup.

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May 3, 2010 2:24 PM   

This is so funny on many levels. The best, of course, is that it actually reduces state sovereignty by requiring 2/3 of the vote from each house. After all, if 50+1 % of each house of the MN leg votes for a bill and it still doesn't become law, then it seems like the state has ceded ground, not gained any.

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May 3, 2010 2:40 PM   

I expect that I would disagree with Mr. Emmer on many issues, but why is it that you all presume that a more meaningful interpretation of the tenth amendment is lunatic. State power is far less dangerous than federal. The benign despotism of the federal goverment is inescapable, while totalitarian states are a reason to move. California as well as many other states are invalidating federal law in areas such as gay rights and marijuana that are closer to the hearts of progressives. If California can pick and choose among federal laws why can't Minnesota ? Is federal law supreme only when you agree with it, or only where it is opposed by your enemies ? Again I do not know nor care about Mr. Emmer or his values. But the left completely misunderstands what is going on. Rejection of progressivism is not endorsement of conservatism. It is possible to oppose both Bush and Obama, it is even possible to see them as flip sides of the same statist coin. We have a choice between freedom and disaster. Hayek did not care whether "the road to serfdom" started on the right or the left - the end is the same. Some of us are starting to grasp that almost a century of progressive polices are winding to their natural end. Even FDR saw as much but went forward anyway.

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May 3, 2010 2:57 PM    in reply to dhlii

Arizona.

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May 3, 2010 4:35 PM    in reply to dhlii

Your comments are misinformed. The 10th Amendment is a tautology, as stated by the Supreme Court. It just ensures that there aren't power vacuums that neither the states nor the Federal government can cover. That's it.

You know how we can tell that the 10th isn't meant to reserve any particular body of rights for the states - because we used to have a system under the Articles of Confederation in which the Federal government only had powers expressly granted by the states. When the Constitution was drafted, that express delegation requirement was conspicuous by its absence. Similarly, the Federalist Papers are clear that the concern underpinning the Constitution was a need for a robust central authority, as opposed to the near useless prior executive.

No government is "safe" - sovereignty is sovereignty, regardless of who holds it. Arguably, the bigger the republic, the better. Again, read (or re-read) Madison on faction - arguing that size prevents or minimizes the impact of factional frenzies (like the Az law).

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May 3, 2010 4:39 PM    in reply to dhlii

Is there an agency somewhere that compensates amateur wingnuts for posting in forums such as these and does so on the basis of how many wingnut blathering points,catchwords, and fear phrases they can include in each entry?I'll give you credit though for anaccurte portrayal of the typical wingnut's misunderstanding of how this country is structured.All those wingnut barracks lawyers you have out there presently shooting off their mouths and other orifices only tend to betray the very very strong authoritarian tendencies at work in lower wingnutistan. Good luck with that.

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May 3, 2010 5:51 PM    in reply to dhlii

Because the Constitution means what the Supreme Court says it means, not what every semi-literate conspiracy-minded halfwit wants it to mean at any given time.

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May 3, 2010 6:02 PM    in reply to dhlii

Man are you wrong about everything. Good luck wiping your brain drive clean and starting over.

You have a big chicken bone of fair and balanced stuck in your throat and you need intervention stat!

Society moves to the left. Slowly but surely it does and every generation will tell you what their grandparents would have been SHOCKED over that they could not care less about now. California is going to have it's gay marriage and taxed and regulated pot stores and there is not a fukking thing Washington needs to do. We can handle it. WE ARE PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE!

Pogressive people always carry right wingers along kicking and screaming like a boat dragging and anchor. But we got rid of slavery, women can vote, children can't work, there is a minimum wage, segregation is illegal, Social Security and Medicaid, equal pay, non descrimination, etc etc etc .....

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May 3, 2010 6:43 PM    in reply to hollywood

Exactly. Over time we have won, are winning, and will continue to win. This country shifted appreciably to the left even under GW.

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May 3, 2010 6:55 PM    in reply to dhlii

More meaningful? Explain. The concept Tenthers espouse is a demonstration of ignorance when it comes to American civics. States do not decide what is or is not within the scope of the federal government and have no authority to nullify, modify nor not comply with federal law. And when it comes to who has the final say, I refer you to Marbury v. Madison. But I would be curious to see your explanation and citations of anything that supports your proposition.

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May 4, 2010 6:17 AM    in reply to dhlii

"Rejection of progressivism is not endorsement of conservatism. It is possible to oppose both Bush and Obama,"

Load of BS. There's no middle ground, not anymore. the ReichWingnutzies have gone completely apeshit.

Also "you don't know nor care about his views"???? It's clear you're a closeted rightwinger, who prolly thinks he gloriously sits in some fantasy libertarian middle!

Repubs have gone crazy. Deal with it. Just don't vote for a couple of years, until they come to their senses.
You people keep wanna move to the right, while the rest of the world moves to the left, and why do they DO THAT?? BECAUSE IT WORKS!!!
Why do rightwingers always pretend as if Bush DID NOT wreck the economy, with his no-oversight, tax-cuts for the rich attitudes?

Bush' policies and views and "heckuva job Brownie" nepotism broughth this country to financial ruin. ALWAYS keep that in mind! DON'T YOU ever FORGET IT!

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May 3, 2010 2:47 PM   

Do not underestimate the ability of the center left in Minnesota to self destruct. Once again, the Independence Party will field a strong candidate. Once again, the Democratic activists passed on their best candidate (RT Rybak) and went with a fairly dour candidate who appeals to the inside-baseball party precinct people (Margaret Anderson Kelliher). Once again, big money egomaniacs in the Democratic Party are running around and forcing a primary (Mark Dayton and Matt Entenza). This is a big opportunity for the Republicans to elect a complete loon. It will give new meaning to Minnesota's state bird.

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May 3, 2010 3:04 PM    in reply to decisivemoment

Poor loons. They don't deserve to be lumped in with teh crazy. My heart goes out to them.

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May 3, 2010 2:56 PM   

"If California can pick and choose among federal laws why can't Minnesota ?"

Because this isn't picking and choosing. This is by default negating EVERY federal law (and believe it or not, a lot of tiny stuff gets passed every year) unless 2/3 of the legislature AND the Governor approves of it.

A more 'meaningful' interpretation might be to accept laws by default, and allow for rejection of a federal law with a supermajority.

I'm ok with this, though. I'm sure other states could use federal assistance for education, medical care, and infrastructure. You start rejecting federal laws and the funding will dry up REAL fast.

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May 3, 2010 2:57 PM   

I got to ask where do they get these guys?

I mean this just came out of right field for me? This is just craziness and the sad part is with the severe political polarization this country is going through right now he just might get elected. Hopefully Minnesotians are smart enough not elect him because they would be in some serious trouble and hurting if he is elected and follows through with his promises.

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May 3, 2010 2:58 PM   

He's a rabid Republican--the question is whether he was bit by Palin or Bachmann.

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May 3, 2010 3:07 PM   

Note to DFL (Mark Dayton, Matt Entenza) and Independents (I hope we don't see any more of you Barkley). If you give us this ass hat lunatic to finish ruining this state, I'm outta here.

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May 3, 2010 3:10 PM   

Great. In fact, let's make it retroactive:

- Repeal the Homestead Act that gave these people all that land their squatting on
- Repeal social security and medicare
- Repeal student loans
- Repeal agriculture subsidies and supports so he grows his own damn food with his own damn money
- Repeal the Interstate Highway Act, let him fix his own damn bridge with his own damn money
- Remove all oppressive federal presence, like the border patrol. So when some crazed Canadian curler in ugly plaid pants stumbles across the border, he can piss in your yard.
- We'll remove those oppressive federal levees from the Mississippi River there for ya Gov. Start bailing.
- End the oppressive anti-free market federal deposit insurance program. When your banks fail, it's your problem, just like back in the day - Hoover's day. Unless you want to start your own bank, like your commie friends in North Dakota did.

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May 3, 2010 3:14 PM   

Doesn't everyone see the enormous irony here:

Emmer's proposal to require state ratification of every Federal law would be a violation of the same Constitution that says, "the Laws of the United States ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land".

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May 3, 2010 3:18 PM   

Relax, stop worrying, and pass the popcorn. Emmer's going to be fun to watch, and easy to beat.

Rybak was the better candidate, which is precisely why it's a good thing that there will be a contested DFL primary this August...Entenza has a far better chance than Kelliher to win in November.

DFL also helped by the fact that the Republicans won't have a primary challenger to help them "fix" the convention results. Recall that moderate Republican Gov. Carlson lost his party's convention endorsement to a proto-Teabagger (as a sitting governor!), but went on to easily win both the primary and general election.

And finally, this year the strongest IP candidate is Tom Horner, a former Republican...someone far more likely to drain votes away from the Republican candidate.

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May 3, 2010 3:33 PM    in reply to northstardon

From what I've seen, Kelliher is the weakest of the 3 candidates left in the race..but Entenza isnt particularly well known.

Sadly, a has-been with a fair amount of baggage (Dayton) seems to have the best shot.

Latest poll was back in March, and Rasmussen had him beating Emmer by MoE. So you've gotta figure he's a good 5-6 points ahead.

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May 3, 2010 3:39 PM    in reply to EnnuiDivine

Entenza is already running television ads that might cure the name-recognition disparity. And to say that Dayton carries "a fair bit of baggage" is an understatement.

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May 3, 2010 5:05 PM    in reply to northstardon

Like it or not, Dayton's got the name recognition and the funds. And, he started this race fairly early. I think he's got the best shot.

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May 3, 2010 4:29 PM    in reply to EnnuiDivine

I always kind of liked Kelliher, I was glad to see her get the nomination. Dayton couldn't get elected dog catcher after his stint in the senate.

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May 3, 2010 5:59 PM    in reply to EnnuiDivine

I live in the 7th Congressional District (my apologies for Collin Peterson) but the Dayton name has a lot of fond memories attached, especially for older voters. I don't sense that Dayton's past is as big a liability as some thing in my discussions with others in this area of the state.

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May 3, 2010 3:28 PM   

Wow! Has anyone checked this guy's IQ?

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May 3, 2010 3:28 PM   

When the Feds cut funding for Minnesota we would see just how quickly Mr. Emmer, were he to be elected governor, would change his tune.

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May 3, 2010 3:34 PM   

Eric - Here's a better money quote that sums up Emmer's opinions about Democrats...

"I don't think you can call yourself a freedom-loving American and be a Democrat."

http://www.marshallindependent.com/page/content.detail/id/512477.html?nav=5015

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May 3, 2010 6:26 PM    in reply to northstardon

Funny I don't see how you can call yourself sane and be a Republican.

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May 3, 2010 6:56 PM    in reply to northstardon

Doesn't he mean "treason-loving"?

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May 3, 2010 3:40 PM   

I am SO happy he's the Republican candidate. Let's hope the party of tea keeps shooting themselves in the foot with their wild dog candidates. It's going to be one of those "Anybody but Emmer" campaigns.

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May 3, 2010 3:41 PM   

I'd love to see a debate between this clod and Sen. Franken.
You'd need a lot of towels on hand to wipe the blood up though.

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May 3, 2010 3:59 PM   

Funny how these so-called "Tenthers" -- those who believe in a strict interpretation of the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution -- ignore another part of the Constitution: Article VI, Section 3 -- the Supremacy Clause -- which says quite explicitly that (relevant sections in boldface for emphasis):

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

Federal law TRUMPS state law, unless that particular state law has no federal statute superseding it or a particular federal law is found in violation of the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND -- the Constitution itself.

(Sorry to say this to the backers of the ballot measure in California to legalize marijuana in that state, but even it the measure passes, pot will STILL be illegal in California under federal law.)

These "tenthers" really need to get a life.

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May 3, 2010 6:44 PM    in reply to SkeeterVT

And note that not only does federal law trump state law, it trumps state constitutions as well.

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May 3, 2010 4:03 PM   

Minnesota - the Land of 10,000 flakes!

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May 3, 2010 4:10 PM   

Some people just can't stand that the Arizona GOP gets all the attention by putting the "AZ" in CRAZY.

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May 3, 2010 4:32 PM   

Oh, and don't discount the amount of crazy here in the frozen north. I like Garrison Keillor's definition of the great northern liberal. "All in favor of humanity in general, but not overly fond of anyone in particular".

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May 3, 2010 4:34 PM   

What is with it in Minnesota.? Is it in the water or what? These lunatics are are realizing that they are becoming the minorty race, so they think they can create laws that keeps them as leaders. Wellm minnesota had the sense to kick 'THE HORSEMAN [COBURN] out, let's hope they stand up against these crazies. Backmann should be enough embrassement for them.

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May 3, 2010 4:43 PM   

True federalism would also give each state's governor a veto over every act of Congress.

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May 3, 2010 5:35 PM    in reply to Ross Best

Well, then we don't have true federalism in this country.

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May 3, 2010 4:44 PM   

Hey, I'm perfectly happy with yanking all Federal monies from Minnesota, especially if a good portion of them are redirected to us here in Michigan. We could use it.

Come to think, I would bet that the GOPer nutballs in the U.P. are already preparing their own secession platform for the Upper Peninsula. They've never really felt like part of the rest of the state anyhow.

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May 3, 2010 5:06 PM    in reply to bluestatedon

Between the weather, the hockey, and quality of medical care, Minnesota is already an honorary Canadian Province, don't cha know?

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May 3, 2010 4:46 PM   

Maybe this wingnut is going to campaign on telling MN residents that they can refuse to pay all federal taxes, but that they'll still get funding sent to the state, and there will be no impact on their Social Security or Medicare.

Gimme', gimme', gimme, but don't expect me to pay. Isn't that the Republican way?

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May 3, 2010 5:08 PM   

Looks like he wants to take Minnesota from being the North Star State to the No Star State.

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May 3, 2010 5:29 PM   

The wellsprings of absolute racist, balmy, hate-filled secessionist ideology run very, very deep in this country.

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May 3, 2010 5:32 PM   

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May 3, 2010 5:33 PM   

In 293 AD, the Emperor Diocletian divided the Roman Empire into 2 halves. It had become impossible to administer such a large and populous empire with only one emperor, and the 2 halves were already culturally very different so it made perfect sense. Are we possibly in the same predicament? It seems impossible to me to think that the 2 Americas can co-exist much longer and I'm becoming a bigger fan of the states right's argument. Let them rule themselves how they see fit, just as long as my federal income tax money no longer goes to these deadbeat states. Let them rise or fall with bartering, institutionalized racism and homophobia, let them outlaw dancing or whatever else they desire. Obviously many will have to move, but this just doesn't work anymore and I don't think this country will survive the white cultural panic that's going on now. Either let's have a 2nd Civil War and settle this or lets divorce, but we are not united in any real way and we're just wasting time pretending that we are. Or maybe I'm just fucking exhausted with these ignorant hillbillies.

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May 3, 2010 6:55 PM    in reply to Max Thrax

"Oh, dear! There are people in this country that don't think the way I do! Let's just partition the country into separate enclaves."

Yeah, that worked so well in what used to be Yugoslavia. And it was such a peaceful solution to the Hindu-Muslim conflict on the Indian sub-continent.

Obviously many will have to move...

Only about half the country. That should work well.

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May 3, 2010 5:35 PM   

2010:The Year of Living Batsh%t crazy

I propose if he is elected governor that the entire country has to vote each time he wants money from the federal government. If he doesn't get 2/3 voting yes then sorry you are out of luck.

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May 3, 2010 5:38 PM   

He won't make it in Minnesota, far too extreme and anti-government. Michelle Bachmann survives in her little nitch of the world but mainstream Minnesota believes in competent government as a partner with the people. Until Pawlenty, it's what we usually had.

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May 3, 2010 6:42 PM    in reply to rebeltoady

ummm.....Ventura?

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May 3, 2010 11:28 PM    in reply to northstardon

I thought everyone learned their lesson from that.

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May 3, 2010 5:46 PM   

You know, maybe these tenthers are on to something - maybe abolishing the US is the only way to end this ridiculous war machine we've all become enslaved to. Damned naval gazing liberal squishies sure ain't up to it: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/no_one_cares_20100503/

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May 3, 2010 5:50 PM   

Didn't we more or less settle this in 1865?

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May 3, 2010 6:22 PM    in reply to Autographedcat

Earlier. See Prigg v. Pennsylvania

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prigg_v._Pennsylvania

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May 3, 2010 7:04 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Which essentially upheld the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution anyway but then again these clowns are just recycling arguments first forwarded by Neoconfederates who use the Tenth to justify secession, modern Tenthers just dressed the old pig in a newly stitched Stars and Bars. Liberutopians then borrowed it and put their own spin on it and around it goes. You have to admit that this new manifestation is quite comical.

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May 3, 2010 5:52 PM   

Perhaps he does understand he's running for office in the United State.

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May 3, 2010 5:53 PM   

The lie in this crap is the idea that consumers have control. Control over choice of doctors, the choice of treatment, etc. All this is currently under the control of the insurance companies. He says "preserve" consumer control. But you cannot preserve something that does not exist.

What a liar.

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May 3, 2010 5:54 PM   

Do it. Please.

That will be pretty funny when everyone looses social security benefits and any medicaid/medicare subsides, and no one from the state can get a loan to college, and all of a sudden you can't buy certain food, and wine and beer. And then when you try and travel overseas your passport will be invalid.

Good luck.

Fucking idiots.

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May 3, 2010 5:54 PM   

Let the Balkinisation begin. MN is totally self sufficient right.

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May 3, 2010 5:59 PM   

Even if they lose, these nuts drag the debate to the right. Look at what having Hayward in the AZ Sen race has done to John McCain. He's yanked the yoke to the right and gone into a spiral dive to Crazytown.

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May 3, 2010 6:10 PM   

better close those airports due to the numerous federal laws that govern their procedures. Also close all those evil federal highways.
The media really must get its act together and call these people out; stop treating them like they are legitimate politicians.

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May 3, 2010 6:12 PM   

Feel free to dig into your pockets and help nullify Emmer's campaign: http://www.margaretforgovernor.com/

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May 3, 2010 6:45 PM    in reply to ericf

I'm not yet convinced that Margaret is going to be on the ballot in November.

Folks wanting to help keep a lid on the crazy might want to wait until the DFL primary in August before they send money.

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May 3, 2010 6:23 PM   

No Federal laws?

No Federal money.

No FAA, FDA, EPA. Then we can sit back and watch Airplanes crash from the sky, people die from the use of adulterated medicines, or choke to death on noxious fumes.

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May 4, 2010 1:37 AM    in reply to jsdc007

"No FAA, FDA, EPA. Then we can sit back and watch Airplanes crash from the sky, people die from the use of adulterated medicines, or choke to death on noxious fumes."

a matter of degree

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May 3, 2010 6:46 PM   

And what delicious irony to see the likes of Jindal and Barbour and Riley and soon Perry coming to Obama with hat in had begging for Federal assistance. Democrats in those states need to start hanging that around their necks NOW.

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May 3, 2010 7:16 PM   

Hell just take the heaviest weaponed warship in the Navy, rename it the USS Sumter and steam it along the coast from the Florida panhandle to Brownsville with an Hispanic American at the helm.

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May 3, 2010 7:55 PM   

Big Tom Emmer wins easily. He has the backing of gracious, glamorous Gov. Palin.

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May 3, 2010 8:26 PM   

You can't expect Republicans to support a Federal government headed by a black guy, do you? That's just going too far.

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May 3, 2010 9:19 PM   

Minnesota Republicans just nominated the State Bird...

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May 4, 2010 1:53 AM   

What district/counties does he represent?

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May 4, 2010 8:46 AM    in reply to deuce

Emmer's State House District 19B is the the western Twin Cities exurbs...portions of Wright and Hennepin counties along the I-94 St. Cloud-Mpls corridor.

Not surprisingly, it's also mostly within Michelle Bachmann's MN6 Congressional district.

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May 4, 2010 11:16 PM    in reply to northstardon

Has there ever been a nuclear spill into the water supply in that area?

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May 4, 2010 12:42 PM   

Do you like being "forced" to pay illegals health care and educate all of their kids as well as foot the bills for anchor babies for 18 years?

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May 4, 2010 12:54 PM    in reply to marysteeleyorktownva

Obama said months ago that "illegals go to the E.R. and we pay for it" and yet he still boasts about lowering health care and creating jobs while they "still allow" 8 million illegals to work much-needed jobs and flood our E.R.'s!!

Obama is also a liar and hypocrite right along with Bush and his cronies! Obama postponed 4 times, the mandatory E-Verify for certain contracts that are paid for with stimulus dollars, until he ran out of excuses and had to implement it. So he is far from helpful, he might as well move to Mexico and work for illegals there and get somebody in office that will do for legal immigrants and citizens!!!

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May 5, 2010 7:20 PM    in reply to marysteeleyorktownva

Should we be surprised that you make no mention of the Eurowhite illegals, such as thoes from Ireland?

Or are all illeals acceptable UNLESS insufficiently white?

And what has Obama to do with it? -- READ THE CONSTITUTION: it is C-O-N-G-R-E-S-S that makes the laws, NOT the President.

And good luck with that in view of the behaviors of the Party of NO!

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May 5, 2010 7:22 PM    in reply to marysteeleyorktownva

Are you "forced" to be an ignorant racist? Or is it wholly voluntary?

When will you be be "righteously" bitching about all the "illegals" from Europe?

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May 4, 2010 11:13 PM   

"proposed another state constitutional amendment that would prohibit any individual or employer mandate to carry health insurance in the state of Minnesota, if one were to eventually pass at the federal or state level..."

Wow, this guy is really brave! The federal mandate obviates the state mandate, so his proposal is nothing but posturing.

Nullify all federal laws without ratification? Good luck with that. Even the Supreme Robertson Quints would disapprove. (I think -- they're a fairly reactionary lot. Probably depends on how much money they're offered.)

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May 5, 2010 7:17 PM    in reply to RKT

I think they should rename their party to Asylum of US Teabag Patriots.

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June 6, 2010 12:26 PM   

From what I've seen, Kelliher is the weakest of the 3 candidates left in the race..but Entenza isnt particularly well known.

Sadly, a has-been with a fair amount of baggage (Dayton) seems to have the best shot.

Latest poll was back in March, and Rasmussen had him beating Emmer by MoE. So you've gotta figure he's a good 5-6 points ahead.

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