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Last Night's Big Loser: National Republicans
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
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In Kentucky, the national Republican Party backed the wrong candidate in not one but two primaries. The Democrats managed to hold on to Rep. John Murtha's old seat in Pennsylvania. And while Sen. Arlen Specter is no longer a Republican, his defeat by Rep. Joe Sestak in the Democratic primary means the GOP nominee will face, perhaps, a much stronger opponent than the beleaguered Specter would have been.
It was a rough night for the Republicans.
No one suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune more than Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. His hand-picked candidate was trounced by tea partier Rand Paul in the Kentucky Senate primary. McConnell's pick, Trey Grayson, only got 35% of the vote despite his party's backing. Grayson even lost in his home county.
In a smaller, but no less telling, Louisville House district primary last night, NRCC choice Jeff Reetz came in third in a primary to challenge Rep. John Yarmuth. Reetz only got 17% of the vote.
In Pennsylvania, Democrats managed to deny Republicans what would have been a symbolic taking of the 12th district seat once held by the late Rep. John Murtha. There, Mark Critz (D) narrowly won the special election over Tim Burns (R), 53% to 45% with 99% of precincts reporting. Burns reportedly called Critz to concede before the Associated Press had even called the race.
"Tonight's result was undoubtedly disappointing," NRCC chair Pete Sessions admitted in a statement, "but we will take the lessons learned from this campaign and move forward in preparation for November."
And then there's Pennsylvania's Democratic primary for U.S. Senate. Even though the Republicans' man of choice, Pat Toomey, cruised to a win in the GOP primary, he now has to face Sestak, who by most accounts is a much stronger contender than Specter.
There was considerable debate during the Democratic primary about who would make a stronger challenger to Toomey. But by the time Sestak finished lowering the boom on Specter he was a badly damaged candidate. An ad showing Specter with former President George W. Bush was the final nail, and Specter's opportunism in switching parties became an even bigger liability than had been predicted.
National Democrats, including the White House, had gone to bat for Specter. But they're breathing a sigh of relief tonight, whether they admit it or not. That's not to say a Sestak win in the general is in the bag, but it's not the news the GOP would have hoped for.
Few GOP wishes, it would seem, came true last night.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
May 19, 2010 9:32 AM
The Republicans spent the last two years sowing the wind. The outcome is foreseeable to everyone except the fools throwing the seeds.
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Richardxx
May 19, 2010 5:32 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Last two years? Hell, they have spent the last three decades sowing these fields. Their entire "philosophy" is clearly an effort to turn back the clock and abandon the successes America has made in managing the economy since the Depression and improving American social relations. The Bush administration clear established that as a long term thing American conservatism is a losers political philosophy.
The takeover of both houses of Congress, topped by the election of the first African-American (Democratic Party) President and the passage of a bill that sets the stage for national universal health care all attest to the utter and complete failure of American conservatism.
What is the conservative response? A political policy of stopping all political debate in Congress with total obstructionism and a flood of sound bite political phrases ("Trade the doctor a chicken for your care", "Drill baby drill", "Who could have foreseen [Katrina |The Iraq insurgency | Oil at $147 per barrel | Melting ice caps and southern plants and animals moving north as polar bears die out | Great Depression II | Earthquake in San Francisco | Enron ripping off consumers then collapsing | Wall Street Banks cheating customers and collapsing (requiring taxpayer bail-out to keep the Depression down to the Great Recession.) | Religious effort to take over and destroy public education | Financial collapse of states led by California because of Norquist's refusal to pay taxes.| Return to government sponsored torture and unnecessary wars | and the list goes on."] All of this is the direct result of the rise of the American conservative movement and its media supporters.
Coolidge's and Herbert Hoover's Republicans followed by Nixon, "Tailgunner" Joe McCarthy (following the lead of Texas Democratic Congressman Martin Dies Who created HUAC), Robert Welch, Goldwater, Bill Buckley, Jimmy Carter, Reagan, Rupert Murdoch and FOX, Clear Channel Radio, Wall Street and the free market economists, Ayn Rand and many others have sponsored the current American situation. They took the leading economy and society to come out of WW II and have torn it down to the point where internally and internationally it does little more than make rich people richer and supplies weapons of war to the world.
Some of the public education benefits that made America the premier nation and society in the world by 1950 remain, but they are being destroyed by the profit takers as the rest of the world passes us by.
It took America two centuries to become truly great. It has taken American conservatives 50 years to destroy much of that greatness.
It's time to return to the essence of America. America is a middle class nation that should be a great environment for raising families and educating children, and if that costs a few wealthy families and investors a bit more in taxes, then the greater benefit to the population is more than worth it.
American conservatism has a lot of destruction that it is directly responsible for. Is it any wonder that they want to take over public education and eliminate all the disasters they have caused for America from the things taught by historians? That's the goal of the Texas State Board of Education as once again conservatives in an effort to protect themselves from responsibility for what they are doing attempt keep people from learning the truth.
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Sailormarlowe
May 19, 2010 9:36 AM
Like Sarah says: Challenge the good old boys and fight corruption in both parties.
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zuch
May 19, 2010 11:28 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Sarah Lee? Part the dough? Use Pillsbury Enriched™ Flour? Margarine, not butter?
Cheers,
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jeffgee
May 19, 2010 11:36 AM in reply to zuch
You know who he means. He's obsessed with her. Wants her to be queen.
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mjeffn
May 19, 2010 1:13 PM in reply to jeffgee
Na...he wants to be her queen.
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Zebracat
May 19, 2010 12:07 PM in reply to zuch
I thought with Sarah Lee products you pretty much open the box and ate it. I lot like Sarah Palin in her college years I have read.
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windowpane
May 19, 2010 12:32 PM in reply to zuch
No, Sarak Palin uses only Imperial Margarine. That way, she feels like a Queen - the Queen of Tarts.
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to windowpane
Sarah's got her "eye on Rand."
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 1:07 PM in reply to JEP07
...or maybe she's just Eyein' Rand?
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hunter
May 19, 2010 2:08 PM in reply to JEP07
...feeling Randy?
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georgecs
May 19, 2010 11:42 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
I guess quitting half way through your obligation to the voters you promised to serve is a gosh-golly-gee "mavericky" way of stickin' it to those corrupt politicians, ey there sailor bait?
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 1:16 PM in reply to georgecs
sailorbait???
LOL!!!
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Shalimar
May 19, 2010 11:50 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Palin? Did she at least support Rand Paul? It seems like in every other primary she has been for the establishment candidate. I can't wait until she campaigns for Vitter. Maybe if Sarah is real nice Vitter will wear his diaper for her.
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Richardxx
May 19, 2010 7:02 PM in reply to Shalimar
Depends on who pays her the most.
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 12:44 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Sailor, Palin IS a good-old boy, wearing a skirt and poofy bouffant.
Palin is about the best symbol of what might well be called the Bush status quo.
Your posing her as an alternative to the status quo just shows how politically savvy you obviously aren't.
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DownriverDem
May 19, 2010 3:39 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Trust me. Sarah is just using slogans to appeal to those who have no depth when it comes to issues. The majority of Americans (even repubs) do not consider her experienced enough to be president. Her supporters are lacking more than her.
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Doug Abroad
May 19, 2010 9:37 AM
Good article, but how is 53-45 a narrow win?
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Schmed
May 19, 2010 9:47 AM in reply to Doug Abroad
That had me scratching my head too.
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 12:41 PM in reply to Schmed
...remember, anything that has to do with Republicans must be exaggerated, so their losses, though statistically the same, are always counted as less than Dem's.
And isn't that the Big Game? Keep everyone thinking the nation is evenly divided, and conquer us with that division, even though it is a dubious one? It is so systemic in our media, it bleeds over to the blogs. Even here at TPM, anything less than 10% tends to equal a close race for the Republican loser but for a Democratic winner it's not a big win unless it's OVER 10%
Or something like that.
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_jonny_5_
May 19, 2010 2:18 PM in reply to JEP07
It's the Rasmuessen-ization of our Media.
Even TPM is a victim, just look at the article about Blumenthal's(CT) numbers in a "Nosedive" when really he lost only 4 points from one Rasmuessen poll to another, and is still over 50% in that poll and his favorability/unfavorability is 66%-32%.
It really sickens me sometimes.
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Bright Creature
May 19, 2010 1:24 PM in reply to Schmed
If I've remember right...anything out to 3-5 points is statistically close and falls within the margin of error. Maybe they are discounting the outside margin of error and figuring that anything 4 points or within is narrow. I don't know, but I agree it's stretching things to call it close.
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hunter
May 19, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to Bright Creature
There isn't a "margin of error" in an actual election like there is in polling, because the sample size is the same as the population size. That is, they're counting all the votes instead of attempting to extrapolate from a random sample. Yes, there may be counting or tabulation errors, but that's not really the same thing and is almost certainly way smaller (probably less than .1%).
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Richardxx
May 19, 2010 7:10 PM in reply to Bright Creature
Even a win inside the margin of error is a significant win. The only thing the margin of error tells you is that you is that if the results come inside it, those results cannot be safely generalized to other similar populations. Two completely different processes that the numbers from the vote are used for.
A win inside the margin of error is NOT a TIE! It's a clear WIN! That's because votes are used to make decisions. It's only when you try to generalize the results to other, similar populations that the margin of error matters at all!
Are you making a decision? Forget margin of error. Are you trying to generalize the results and compare them to other, similar populations? That's when margin of error matters.
Got it??
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EnnuiDivine
May 19, 2010 9:53 AM in reply to Doug Abroad
53-45 is considered narrow for a primary victory by an incumbent. 53-45 in a general election? Not so much.
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May 19, 2010 9:54 AM in reply to EnnuiDivine
George Bush won in a landslide (51-49) in 2004. 53-45 is only a narrow win if you're a Democrat!
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chuck DC
May 19, 2010 10:00 AM in reply to Rob
thank you for saying it -- that is really a solid win.....
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dswx
May 19, 2010 10:22 AM in reply to chuck DC
Except of course for TPM reporters. When they refer to polls showing a 1 point difference between two candidates, they crow that someone has a "lead". When someone actually wins substantially, they say they won "narrowly".
Simply abysmal, lazy reporting going on here at TPM lately. Really the dregs when it comes to understanding polls or even poll results now. And no effort to try to improve is evident. Or that they even care.
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VictorLH
May 19, 2010 11:20 AM in reply to dswx
Agreed what a BS line from TPM.
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fkaZk0sm0
May 19, 2010 3:50 PM in reply to dswx
nonsense.
anyone who reads past the ledes knows otherwise.
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Richardxx
May 19, 2010 7:22 PM in reply to dswx
Disagree.
TPM reporters are good writers and reporters with minimal statistical interpretation skills. If they consider something newsworthy I need to know why. Usually they are on to something.
But when they start using and discussing technical statistics terms they generally are only marginally better than the average college graduate. Which is, frankly abysmal.
Being marginally competent in interpreting statistics is also enough to get them banned from Redstate or any of the right-wing venues. Not because it is bad, but because having a clue or understanding what is really going on would interfere with writing right-wing propaganda. See SailorMarlow for example.
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SFCWallace
May 19, 2010 12:13 PM in reply to chuck DC
I think they called it "narrow" since it's a 65-35 Dem district. Narrow was a bad description, closer than expected, or normal, would've been better.
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gjdodger
May 19, 2010 12:51 PM in reply to SFCWallace
Utterly incorrect. It's a +1 R district that went for McCain in '08.
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SFCWallace
May 19, 2010 2:56 PM in reply to gjdodger
65-35 Registered
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Red XIV
May 19, 2010 4:53 PM in reply to gjdodger
It went for McCain in 2008 because Obama is black. Murtha even openly admitted his district was racist.
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Lynn Dee
May 19, 2010 12:57 PM in reply to SFCWallace
I think it's considered more of a swing district.
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hunter
May 19, 2010 3:12 PM in reply to SFCWallace
No, "closer than expected" would not have been a good description either; the polling showed the race much tighter, Obama lost the district in 2008 while winning by 7 nationally, and the PVI is R+1. This was a big win and there's no other right way to say it.
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mjeffn
May 19, 2010 1:16 PM in reply to Rob
Looking back to the W elections (?) it is so literally obvious, republicans won a man-date.
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Donald from Hawaii
May 19, 2010 4:01 PM in reply to mjeffn
"[R]epublicans won a man-date"? Isn't that what former Rep. Mark Foley (R-South Beach) was telling all those congressional pages?
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Avvocato
May 19, 2010 10:07 AM in reply to EnnuiDivine
No incumbent here! Convincing victory to me!
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cleavet
May 19, 2010 10:26 AM in reply to Avvocato
Perhaps narrow relative to Murtha's victories?
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SFCWallace
May 19, 2010 12:17 PM in reply to cleavet
...also, they get to do it again in November. There'll be a couple of big spending bills between now and then. It'll be interesting to see if Pelosi can get him in line.
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hewhohasnoname
May 19, 2010 9:56 AM in reply to Doug Abroad
Maybe TPM is just as susceptible to Republican spin as other media outlet.
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 12:51 PM in reply to hewhohasnoname
"Rethugs are going to intensify their obstructionism"
a.k.a. "corporate protectionism"
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Lynn Dee
May 19, 2010 12:54 PM in reply to Doug Abroad
Sign me up too. When did 53% to 45% become a "narrow win"?
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Numbersguy
May 19, 2010 12:54 PM in reply to Doug Abroad
It was a crushing obliteration in a district that voted for McCain in 2008.
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NerdRage
May 19, 2010 2:14 PM in reply to Doug Abroad
sounds more like a black eye for the R's to me...
not to mention the way McConnel basically got curb stomped with his hand picked losers...well...losing
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eratosthenes8
May 19, 2010 9:38 AM
I get the feeling a lot of political analysts and writers were upset by last night's results. Howard Fineman looked like he was about to cry.
Not surprising. After all, the narrative they've been trying so desperately to build up over the last several months -- that the Democrats are toast, come November -- was dealt a pretty significant blow.
It really was a terrible night for Republicans and their enablers. But the spin goes on.
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windowpane
May 19, 2010 10:11 AM in reply to eratosthenes8
True, but for the next 5 months, all we are going to hear is how RonRand Paul can walk on water; RonRand Paul will end the war; RonRand Paul will create 5 million new jobs; RonRand Paul will cut everyons's taxes.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
May 19, 2010 10:40 AM in reply to windowpane
And not just from teanuts, alas. The Randian glibertarian kool-aid has a certain strange allure to some on the left as well. They simply edit out the parts they don't like or say he doesn't really mean it or, worst of all, respond to the cognitive dissonance by changing their own beliefs and, presto, a savior is born.
"So what if he wants to put us on the gold standard and abolish the Federal Reserve? We're completely ignorant of what the Fed does, but we know people we revere say the Fed's all about protecting the fat cats on Wall Street and we hate the fat cats therefore Paul hates them too, so he's one of us! And he'll end the war by cutting off funding to the troops! His one vote will overrule all the others and cutting off funding for deployed troops will cause them all to just teleport home overnight! Yay!"
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mjshep
May 19, 2010 11:16 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Teleporting the troops home.
What a great idea!
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Boidster
May 19, 2010 4:55 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Naaaaaailed it!
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Richardxx
May 19, 2010 7:27 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Steve, you are right as usual.
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windowpane
May 19, 2010 12:35 PM in reply to windowpane
Oops! My "strikethroughs" didn't work. Just substitute Rand for Ron. Same fluff.
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Hawker
May 19, 2010 9:41 AM
The big loser aren't the national Republicans alone, but rather the national political parties. Both parties are shifting away from their inside-the-beltway establishments.
I would submit, however, that the Democratic victory in PA-12, a district that the GOP should have won, means that voters in general, as opposed to the primary voters in each party, want moderates.
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hewhohasnoname
May 19, 2010 9:58 AM in reply to Hawker
We'll certainly be able to test that theory in the KY senate race.
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cleavet
May 19, 2010 10:37 AM in reply to Hawker
Agree that the party establishments generally were the losers yesterday. I'm not sure if this translates directly into an anti-incumbent sentiment but it does mean that no candidate will be able to coast to victory (see Coakley, Martha).
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
May 19, 2010 10:45 AM in reply to Hawker
No, sorry, the big losers were the Republicans. Period. Democratic voters, despite their supposed lack of enthusiasm, greatly outnumbered Republican voters, despite their enormous enthusiam.
Turns out,among declared partisans "lack of enthusiam" doesn't equate to "not voting." That's bad news for the Republicans and good news for Democrats.
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libdevil
May 19, 2010 11:11 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Establishment Dems lost as well. They backed Specter and Lincoln to an astonishing degree, and lost one while headed to a run-off in the other.
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JBL1955
May 19, 2010 1:20 PM in reply to libdevil
AFAIC the Establishment Dems were only trying to make good on whatever support they promised those two during the HCR vote. I don't think they're crying in their beer.
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SFCWallace
May 19, 2010 12:22 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Political quote of the day: "We got Specter's vote on the stimulus, on health care and on Justice (Sonya) Sotomayor. I'd say we got our money's worth."
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 12:53 PM in reply to SFCWallace
Hey, wallace, I want my flag back... who told you you could use it?
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 1:04 PM in reply to JEP07
I think all of us real patriots should go take our flag back from the teamob. See how they feel about that.
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_jonny_5_
May 19, 2010 2:38 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Definititly...
By my tally more than 525,000 More dems voted yesterday(in at least the marquee races) than Repubs.
If you take the Senate primaries only the vote total percentages were as follows...
58.5%(D)-41.5%(R)
17% is huge...So much for democrats being unmotivated.
2010 may not be a banner year for Dems, but 1994 it isn't.
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John M
May 19, 2010 2:55 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Sestak's win over Specter was a win for Democrats over Republicans. No matter how you dress him up in Democrat's clothes, Specter was and still is a Republican.
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SFCWallace
May 19, 2010 4:03 PM in reply to John M
Well...except for the fact that Republicans couldn't vote for him...not that they would've...
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bobosqueakers
May 19, 2010 12:29 PM in reply to Hawker
the first logical comment! praise Jeessusss! and pass some of that bacon down here....
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Richardxx
May 19, 2010 7:35 PM in reply to Hawker
It does look that way, doesn't it. The voters are moving to take power away from the inside the beltway guys. That's a direct result of the crap that Wall Street has done to the economy and the way Bushes unplanned, unwinnable and useless overseas wars are continuing to chew up some of America's finest people and large pieces of the budget.
The problem is that the national messages are still going out through centrally controlled big business media organizations and they still take their marching orders from inside the beltway.
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EnnuiDivine
May 19, 2010 9:57 AM
Maybe both parties will come to their senses and elect new Senate leaders after November. I expect Conway to eke out a victory in Kentucky, but if Rand Paul wins...don't count on him backing McConnell for another term as the Repubs Senate leader. Order of succession means Jon "Herman Munster" Kyl gets the nod, but the Repubs might do something truly batshit crazy and pick DeMint.
Reid's got an uphill climb...unless he's up against Lowden. Assuming he wins, Dems shouldn't hesitate to dropkick his ass out of the leadership. Either Durbin or Schumer would be a strong choice.
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BillSoo
May 19, 2010 11:49 AM in reply to EnnuiDivine
He may well quit...it would probably be better for him. If he gave up the leadership, he could concentrate on his district more and secure his position.
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matyra
May 19, 2010 12:22 PM in reply to BillSoo
Possibly, but don't you think that having the home Senator as the chief Senator gives Nevadans some incentive to vote for Reid?
"Yeah, he's a weasel, but he's our weasel. And the top weasel too!!
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BillSoo
May 20, 2010 4:38 PM in reply to matyra
Yes and no. The downside is that Nevada is not the nation. As senate leader, Reid has to do what's best for the nation (and national party), not Nevada. Where the interests meet, fine and good, where they don't (HCR for instance)....
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runfastandwin
May 19, 2010 12:52 PM in reply to EnnuiDivine
Reid will win going away. I don't even understand how the CW has it even close in Nevada.
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jeepsdad
May 19, 2010 9:59 AM
Schadenfreude. Sweet sweet schadenfreude,
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PAvoter
May 19, 2010 10:00 AM
Except that the winner in PA-12 is a very, very conservative Democrat. So in many ways, it shows that all politics is local. It was still alot about all the Pork that Murtha brought to the district, and the voters still want that to continue.
I think the Democratic Party idea of supporting Specter was the idea that an unknown (Sestak) couldn't win in the Fall.
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willia451
May 19, 2010 10:04 AM in reply to PAvoter
At least there is still room in the Democratic Party for someone like Critz.
You can't say that about the Republicans.
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mophan
May 19, 2010 10:27 AM in reply to PAvoter
But the MSM narrative is that this was referendum against Obama and Democrats. It does not matter how conservative Critz is, the average voter would know he would be a reliable vote Democratic vote for most of those issues. If they truly were voting against Obama and the Democrats, they would have voted for Burns.
I agree this was not about Obama or, for the most part, the Democrats. It was about the damaged image the Republicans have built for themselves and their obstructionist ways.
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 1:06 PM in reply to PAvoter
"an unknown (Sestak) couldn't win in the Fall."
there's a myth that will be busted long before November...
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willia451
May 19, 2010 10:01 AM
And, don't forget about Florida. Where Crist left the GOP to run as an independent for Senate; and by some accounts is now the frontrunner.
If there is no room in the GOP for people like Charlie Crist, then it really makes me wonder if folks are seriously over-estimating a Republican wave election in 2010.
Especially in light of PA-12 last night.
We'll see.
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windowpane
May 19, 2010 10:13 AM in reply to willia451
There may still be a wave in 2010. But I suspect that it will become a tired ripple by 2010.
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Sailormarlowe
May 19, 2010 10:03 AM
Looks like Lisa(Lizard)Murkowski hangin' behind Lipless Mitch in the rogues' gallery photo. She better cover her butter-bean buns, or the Princess might take her Senate seat come next election, who knows? Heh heh.
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windowpane
May 19, 2010 10:06 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Not to get too personal, but, Senator Murkowski, at one time, was quite a handsome woman. But there is definitely something reptilian about her appearance these days. Sort of like John Thune with a wig.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 19, 2010 10:39 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
You obviously dont keep up on how toxic Palin has become, as you keep jerking off to her unabatedly, in Alaska. Just over 50 people have contributed to her PAC, housed in Virginia, this year. Fifty-plus....as popular as a turd in a swimming pool. You understand that, being a turd.
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Sailormarlowe
May 19, 2010 10:55 AM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
Then why you keep sniffing around? Hahahahaaaaa
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 19, 2010 11:34 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Felcher, turd, racist, homophobe (ala Rekers), intellectual midget, asshat, masturbatory/delusional Palinite...you just keep racking up awards.
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John M
May 19, 2010 2:51 PM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
It probably has something to do with Murkowski;s being a whore defending Big Oil, and her wanting the taxpayers, not BP, Haliburton, and TransOcean to pay for the lost tourism and fishing industry caused by Big Oil's negligent liabilty.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 19, 2010 3:05 PM in reply to John M
The disdain that Alaskans have for her has nothing to do with Murkowski...two different entities.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/alaskans-arent-donating-to-palins-sarahpac.php?ref=mp
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jeffgee
May 19, 2010 11:39 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
If your Queen $arah looked like Murkowski, nobody would pay attention to her.
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Roma Victors
May 19, 2010 12:32 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
A guy can dream, that's for sure. And dream, and dream, and dream. Most of us have come to the conclusion that public office doesn't pay enough to interest The Quitter with a Litter on Twitter.
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LarryMo
May 19, 2010 2:23 PM in reply to Roma Victors
"...The Quitter with a Litter on Twitter."
No shitter.
That's a great line. (I personally like "Partial-Term Palin"...but poetry is always appreciated)
'Twas once a hack pol from Wasilla
Who was hardly an 800 pound gorilla
Her fame faded fast
Her looks didn't last
And she's now kept on ice in Murdoch's chilla.
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windowpane
May 19, 2010 10:05 AM
They were losers long before last night. "The times they are a-changing."
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LynnTTT
May 19, 2010 10:08 AM
IN PA, since when is a victory of 53% to 45% a "narrowly won" contest? In the only race where is was Demo vs GOP, the Dems won 53% to 45%. And wait till the Tea Party candidates get into debates and people really hear their plans- drop the Disabilities Act, no regulation on businesses, no public schools, etc. I'm not worried yet.
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zuch
May 19, 2010 11:35 AM in reply to LynnTTT
Then there's their simply brilliant idea of repealing the 17th Amendment....
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mjeffn
May 19, 2010 1:19 PM in reply to zuch
...and bring your gun to church day
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kenga
May 20, 2010 7:52 AM in reply to mjeffn
We used to do that in MA - it was the law.
In 1650.
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BronxInTN
May 19, 2010 10:11 AM
The NYT headline gets it wrong
Specter Defeat Signals a Wave Against Incumbents
The Specter defeat, and the Rand victory, were the same story of the far right wing taking over the Republican party. The follows the Republican purge of Crist in Florida. Specter was not a Democratic incumbent. He was a party-switcher, force to leave the Republicans because of the far right take-over.
The effective "incumbent" in PA-12, Murtha's long-time aide, was not defeated. So the media has a hard time spinning last night's results as an anti-Democratic wave. The victory of Sestak, and Halter's unexpectedly good showing in AR, show a resurgence of the progressive wing of the Democrats. That in turn is motivated by the improving economy, the passage of Health Insurance reform, and the prospect of a decent financial reform bill passing in the Senate.
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ahaskell
May 19, 2010 10:42 AM in reply to BronxInTN
I agree.The issue is the disgust about the continued love affair between certain politicians, irrespective of party designation, resulting in either positions of no action or action contrary to the general good. Once the Dem's started to hang tough and start to get some things accomplished the atmosphere changed.
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ahaskell
May 19, 2010 10:44 AM in reply to BronxInTN
I agree.The issue is the disgust about the continued love affair between certain politicians, irrespective of party designation, resulting in either positions of no action or action contrary to the general good. Once the Dem's started to hang tough and start to get some things accomplished the atmosphere changed.
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Ron Thompson
May 19, 2010 4:27 PM in reply to BronxInTN
I'm old enough to remember when newspaper headlines didn't contain analysis. Or maybe the problem is that the headline accurately reflects the lede, and the article was analysis rather than news.
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VACommonsense
May 19, 2010 10:20 AM
Didn't know where to post this, but this is important:
Public Briefing on America's Climate Choices
Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 10 A.M. to 11:30 A.M. EDT
National Academy of Sciences
Washington, D.C.
As part of its most comprehensive study of climate change to date, the National Research Council will release three new reports examining how the nation can combat the effects of climate change. The reports are part of a congressionally requested suite of five studies known as America's Climate Choices.
Watch the live video webcast.
nas.edu or www.americasclimatechoices.org
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Leftflank
May 19, 2010 10:25 AM
The tea-baggers don't really win either, as the only way for them to go is straight to the Republican machine. mcconell couldn't kiss Rand Paul's butt fast enough & like it or not Paul will run as & with the repubs.
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May 19, 2010 10:47 AM
The big loser? That would be ordinary Americans, as voters in these states will again be presented with only the favorites of the two-party duopoly, fueled by corporate donations and special interests,
http://www.facebook.com/campaigncorner
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AJM
May 19, 2010 2:12 PM in reply to Jerry
Hmm, guess what, looks like the voters remember just how bad the Republicans were when they were in charge.
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rhallnj
May 19, 2010 10:53 AM
So the GOP will be running for KY Senator a man who is cool with Iran having nuclear weapons? Rand Paul, with his idiotic positions, will now be a very attackable public face of Teabaggerism.
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RobbyLove
May 19, 2010 10:59 AM
If by National Republicans you mean "RINOs", then you're right. Under Bush the Republicans ran away from their conservative, small government tradition and are being rightfully thrashed by their conservative base for losing the House, the Senate and the Presidency as a result.
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seahawk
May 19, 2010 11:51 AM in reply to RobbyLove
"Under Bush the Republicans ran away from their conservative, small government tradition and are being rightfully thrashed by their conservative base for losing the House, the Senate and the Presidency as a result."
Umm....under any and every Republican President, the Republicans run away from their conservative, small government traditions.....Need examples?
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RobbyLove
May 19, 2010 12:30 PM in reply to seahawk
Way worse under Bush and the Republican Congress. The Tea Baggers are reacting to the decades of hypocrisy.
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AJM
May 19, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to RobbyLove
Yeah, but they got the part about removing regulation from the market right, didn't they?
Even in Arizona they've figured out that it is time to raise taxes so that citizens can get the services from government that they can' get as well any other way.
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GTFOOH
May 19, 2010 11:18 AM
The whisper campaign for dumping the Republican leadership has started.
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maya89
May 19, 2010 11:39 AM
yeah, but let's be honest, Dem establishment got also creamed, in PA...
I really hope Sestak can win against Toomey...
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exregis
May 19, 2010 11:55 AM
Yeah, let's be honest. The only reason the Democratic establishment supported Specter was (a) to get him to become the 60th Democrat and (b) to keep his vote even after Coakley lost. The Democratic establishment certainly didn't work as hard as it could to get Specter re-elected. In fact, I don't doubt that the Democratic establishment is pleased that the more viable candidate won in PA.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 19, 2010 3:18 PM in reply to exregis
Isnt that John Basilone in your avatar?
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johnnydoughey
May 19, 2010 11:56 AM
Most voters are still unaware that the two mobs in Washington will still be entrenched even though individual members are eliminated.
Until we get non republicans and non democrats our downhill slide will continue, since integrity, honesty and love for this nation above selfish goals will still be way down the list of attributes these politicians possess... IMHO
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exregis
May 19, 2010 12:02 PM
Same is true for Lincoln in Arkansas. A president and majority leader can't afford to antagonize any Democratic senator in today's 60 vote climate. Of course the establishment is going to give Lincoln nominal support. But that doesn't mean that they want her and that doesn't mean that they would cry over a Halter win in the runoff. In fact, you could spell that Halt 'er (as in Stop her).
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rip
May 19, 2010 12:06 PM
Dem establishment support for Specter was part of the bargain to get him to switch parties. Obama pretty much did the minimum he would be expected to. The current analysis is that Sestak is a stronger candidate for November than Specter would have been.
Blanche Lincoln is an incumbent and win or lose in three weeks, will be a Senator until at least Jan. Given the penchant for Republicans to filibuster, Obama and the rest of the Dem establishment weren't about to alienate Lincoln by not backing her.
The Republican establishment is shitting bricks right now, as the teabaggers have simultaneously taken over the party and alienated the rest of the electorate.
If Republican gains are underwhelming in November, it will only get worse as the casual baggers lose interest and the hardcore doubles down on the crazy.
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Zebracat
May 19, 2010 12:14 PM
Sadly, the radical right will not learn from these defeats that the nonsense about an angry American public retaking government form the left was a lie they created and then believed in without and ounce of reality behind it. That or the fly over country bumpkins may have been angry at the "Obamer gub'mint" but not enough to get off their beer and cheeto stained couches to actually vote.
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kentuck
May 19, 2010 12:36 PM
The Republican Party is splintered. Democratic turnout far out-numbered the Republicans in Kentucky in last night's election. And most of those that did vote cast their support for the Tea Party candidate, Rand Paul. The establishment Republican got only 35% of the vote.
As if this was not a clear barometer of the direction of the Republican Party, they lost a seat in PA that their Chairman, Michael Steele, had guaranteed they would win. A Democrat won the only head-to-head race between a Democrat and a Republican. And this was in a district won by John McCain!
The Republicans are splintered and the best strategy they can come up with is "anti-Obama" all the time. They are dependent upon Rush Limbaugh and the right-wing radio and TV to save them. They are in serious, if not fatal, condition. Just saying "No" will not save them. Perhaps they will get their just reward?
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hollywood
May 19, 2010 1:36 PM in reply to kentuck
Good point about turnout in Kentucky! The Dems both got a lot more votes in their primary than Paul got. If the Dems have that level of turnout over the rethugs in November then we just might have a Dem Senator! The media will piss and prance all around Paul but in the end it is the turnout of your base that wins or looses the race.
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May 19, 2010 12:36 PM
yarmouth is doing a outstanding job! he needed to be re-elected. i am all for mcconnell's canidate grayson loosing. i am not, however, happy with rand. it was a no win situation no mater what
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glblank
May 19, 2010 1:02 PM in reply to Denise
I'm not so sure. Paul is no Neocon Rethug lapdog. His Liberutopian streak may be of some use to Obama should he choose to exploit it. Obama is going to have to address the deficit soon and Paul could be a useful counterbalance the Dems need to marginalize Palintes into oblivion. Sometimes the best you can manage is making lemonade unitl conditions continue to improve to where Americans will accept a more Progressive government. Rethugs are going to stonewall until November. Obama has to help them dig a deeper hole. Sestak is no Liberal and my money is on the Progressive movement stalling out until Obama's work bears more fruit. HCR sucked up a lot of air and any aggressive Progressive agenda will be starved or at least stymied by the Obstructionists. Think large but also think incremental, it's how Lincoln got it done.
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JEP07
May 19, 2010 1:14 PM in reply to glblank
no doubt the gun-toting, threat-signing bullies in the Teamob will cry like widdle babies when Rand Paul gets a bit or reality thrown at him.
The ideology of the teapeople is so twisted and convoluted, Rand will either get embarrassed and trounced trying to spout what they want to hear in some televised debate, or he will make his own baggers mad if he actually debates from an intelligent point of view.
It will be hard for anyone running on the Tea Party ticket to avoid the crush of their own hypocrisy and confusion. And when it happens, expect them to turn from power-bullies into whimpering complainers.
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glblank
May 19, 2010 12:43 PM
The most interesting aspect is that the Rethugs have lost control of the Teabag Frankenstein they created to the more thoughtful Liberutopians, who collectively present the only reason the I.Q. of the group is above mental defective. Rand Paul ran as a Republican knowing that had he strapped on the Libertarian buckler, he'd go down in flames. Obama has to give him a seat at the table with Paul Ryan, putting Ryan in the furthest row in he back. The real Losers were the Racist/Fascist Palinites. Progressives need to take note of that as Rethugs are going to intensify their obstructionism, leaving Obama and Progressives an opening to negotiate with the sane and marginalize the Palinites.
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MikeW67
May 19, 2010 1:39 PM
Although it will be miscast by Media Inc., gigantic night for Progressives;
- GOP loses Murtha's House seat it claimed it would surely win
- known GOP'er Arlen Specter kicked out
- known GOP lapdog Blanche Lincoln, brought to knees by progressive Bill Halter. She is in trouble.
- Teahadist-favored GOP extremist Rand Paul, now has to try to win against a moderate Dem in the fall. Agenda of Zilch, exposed.
Grand Slam!
Balkingpoints / www
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Unionman
May 19, 2010 1:52 PM
Perhaps President Obama will now curb his enthusiasm when Rham Emmanuel advises him on political choices. Wouldn't it be a wonderful occurrence if President Obama were to listen to the democrat voters that elected him on his campaign promise to return the rule of law. He should being that the same democrat voters in PA rejected his choice as the senate democrat nominee. Hopefully he will reevaluate his tacit approval to ignore egregious violation of existing law, violations of the constitution, our treaty agreements and acts of treason committed by the Bush/Cheney Administration, proclaiming that he was looking forward. He did say that if, "if" the DOJ were to find, "find" violations of the law, constitution etc., they could enforce their oath of office. What about his oath. Of course, without direction from the WH Holder isn't about to investigate Bush and Cheney, regardless of their open, contemptible and willful violations. What is it that President Obama fails to recognize about the blindness of law? How can a nation of laws expect to exist and prosper as one if its president ignores violations simply because of the persons station in life?
Is there any hope at all that President Obama will recognize these errors as well as the fact that the republicans will never accept his attempted bipartisan leadership, which has almost evolved into a pathological endeavor, regardless of number of times he accepts their ridicule, disrespect and rejections as mere situational politics?
I fear by his actions he will foul the chances of another minority becoming president during our foreseeable future. If he continues with his current leadership he will be noted in history as simply a lighter form of GW Bush.
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Tamarat
May 19, 2010 2:03 PM
"narrowly won" with 53% to 45%? That's not particularly narrow. Not a blow out, but a very respectable win.
What's narrow is the difference between Critz and the Republicans. He's a Democrat so it's a win for the Dems, but his party label vs. his opponent's is a distinction without a difference.
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Leftflank
May 19, 2010 2:07 PM
Hate & vitriol lost, go figure. Bumper stickers aren't what they used to be.
What will the repubs do now? Palin has gone re-Rogue, the teasticles are not falling in line, the narrative is blown out of the water, fear died with cheney/bush, health-care is kickin' in, the economy is clawing back (with much thanks to the stimulus), mcconnell is the weakling that he appears to be, boener is toxic & politically done, the marketing scheme of just say NO is backfiring & their love for their corporate honeys is undeniable.
BTW, that was the short list.
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Arundhati
May 19, 2010 2:33 PM
Did everyone watch Gov. Sarah Palin on FOX/Hannity last evening? She was so pretty, as always, and she gave the smartest, most incisive rapid-fire answers to his questions, with instant analysis. Really quite impressive. She is more Independent than Republican.
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John M
May 19, 2010 2:56 PM in reply to Arundhati
If she was ingightful and brilliant, there must have been a ventriloquist pulling her strings and talking for her. Palin has the intelligence and insight of a tree.
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rip
May 19, 2010 2:58 PM in reply to Arundhati
I predict that the "we're not Republicans , we're independents" will be a popular refrain from the teabaggers when the Republican gains fall far short of expectations in November, thereby distancing themselves from failure.
As for Palin on Hannity, I doubt that many who frequent TPM are masochistic enough to have watched that.
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 19, 2010 3:14 PM in reply to Arundhati
If your channeling sailormarlowe, I have to give him props because you suck.
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Arundhati
May 19, 2010 3:41 PM in reply to Marinus van der Lubbe
There was a hilarious put-down of you on another thread. Are you a masochist?
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 19, 2010 3:47 PM in reply to Arundhati
(Yawn)....
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johnny b
May 19, 2010 3:03 PM
All you libtards see is D vs. R. It's pathetic. It is people like you that make democracy such a joke. HOWEVER, if you think that this means that the Democratic Socialist Party is doin' fine you are sadly mistaken. T
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chameleon
May 19, 2010 3:39 PM in reply to johnny b
This is a liberal website. If you don't like what we have to say GTFOOH.
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red cabbage
May 19, 2010 5:31 PM in reply to johnny b
Yes, you are so much better than us with your 5th grade vocabulary. Please remove head from toilet.
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Kuyleh
May 19, 2010 5:36 PM
Mhm...Where are all the trolls that were screaming the end of the Democratic majority now?
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SkeeterVT
May 19, 2010 9:57 PM
Are those oh-so-smug Republicans who belittled me for my blog post last month -- in which I warned that the Tea Party movement posed a far greater threat to the GOP than to Democrats -- still smug and belittling me now?
I don't think so!
Read it, Republicans and weep: http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/2010/04/poll-confirms-tea-party-movement.html
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Tosh
June 6, 2010 2:34 AM
"...The Quitter with a Litter on Twitter."
No shitter.
That's a great line. (I personally like "Partial-Term Palin"...but poetry is always appreciated)
'Twas once a hack pol from Wasilla
Who was hardly an 800 pound gorilla
Her fame faded fast
Her looks didn't last
And she's now kept on ice in Murdoch's chilla.
m65 kamagra
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