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Sanders Concerned White House May Kill Fed Audit Amendment


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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has rounded up an impressive, bipartisan array of cosponsors to an amendment he authored requiring an audit of the Federal Reserve. Just today, he added Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) to a list that includes 12 Republicans, seven Democrats, in addition to Sanders himself.

In the past, a different version of legislation opening up the fed to audit received 59 votes--one shy of the 60 required to break a filibuster. But eight of the Republicans who voted no are now cosponsors of Sanders' amendment. That should mean it's a shoo-in, right?

Not necessarily.

"Am I concerned that some of the most powerful and wealthiest people in the world are in opposition to my amendment, people who have run the United States Congress for decades?" Sanders asked reporters rhetorically before a caucus meeting today. "Do I have any worry about that? Yeah. I do."

"Do I think we're going to get a vote? Yes. Do I think we have a chance to get 60 votes? Yes."

When I asked, though, whether he worried that the White House might succeed in peeling away Democratic support for his amendment--just as they did during the health care debate vis-a-vis a popular drug reimportation amendment--Sanders acknowledged it was a real possibility.

And indeed, it's early to assume that prior support for the idea of auditing the Fed will translate into a vote for Sanders' amendment.

"I'm looking at it," Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), who voted for a similar provision in the past, told reporters today. "But I think it may have more potential to politicize the Fed than it does opportunity to really change anything that average Americans are looking for."

McCaskill went on "I think some of what [Sanders] wants is good, like knowing who got the money. But I think the amendment may go farther than that this time."

Sanders appears to have the backing of Majority Leader Harry Reid. At his press conference this afternoon Reid said he hasn't looked at Sanders' amendment yet, but likes the idea in theory. "I think they [the Fed] need a little more attention than they have gotten. If he wants to offer that amendment, he can offer that amendment. It's up to him."

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May 4, 2010 3:52 PM   

In other words, sorry Bernie, and American Public, your tax money will be spent and lent without your input.

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May 4, 2010 4:52 PM    in reply to Dorn76

The big question is whether we're talking about "an audit" like this article implies, or "removing the exemptions of monetary policy actions from the normal Fed audits" which is what we've been hearing elsewhere.

I have no objection to opening up the books one time on the response to the crisis; it has been long enough that the revelations won't cause panic or bank runs, and it would be healthy to see where the money went. On the other hand, if we start requiring the Fed to include its discount window and open-market operations in its normal, bi-annual audits (yes, the Fed is already thoroughly and continuously audited) we're going to get into serious trouble. Aside from the historically obvious fact that this gives politicians undue influence in monetary policy, we just have to think about what would have happened in September 2008 if everyone knew that the Fed was pushing $2T through the discount window. The market would have dropped through the floor, we would have seen bank runs, TARP would have been nowhere near enough to keep the big banks from failing, the FDIC would have shelled out an unbelievable amount of money (with no hope of recouping it, unlike TARP and the Fed funds) and we'd still have a massive credit crunch to this day.

We need to step back and calmly examine this instead of letting our (very understandable) rage at the bankers get the better of us. As described elsewhere, this policy is a disaster. Not only will we see the Fed's normal performance degraded by constant second-guessing in Congress, but if/when we ever have another crisis the Fed will be severely hamstrung in its disaster-recovery mode. Perhaps a compromise can be reached whereby Congress creates a procedure for after-crisis audits, with, say, a two-year waiting period to make sure they don't roil the markets in the fragile post-crisis months. Such a policy would ensure that there would be accountability and make Fed officials think twice before engaging in corrupt deals, but it would keep the pressure off long enough for them to effectively deal with crises.

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May 4, 2010 7:51 PM    in reply to hunter

Solid analysis.

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May 5, 2010 3:14 PM    in reply to hunter

Your suggestion makes sense. They should make minutes public record after a couple of years. Keep it independent, but transparent.

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May 4, 2010 5:10 PM    in reply to Dorn76

Oh, and just one other thing. On this line: your tax money will be spent and lent without your input.

You do recognize that the Fed is self-funding, right? It generated profit in both 2008 and 2009, the latter of which was a record amount. Those profits are given to the Treasury. Which is to say that "taxpayers" aren't providing any of the money it needs to operate; the member banks effectively pay the bills, which they no doubt consider a swell deal considering the stability it brings to the table.

Ron Paul and other anti-Fed types would do well to consider that there were three major panics during the scant 5 decades when there was no central bank in this country. And before anybody starts going on about the "implicit tax" of inflation...there was still plenty of inflation in those days as well.

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May 5, 2010 9:08 AM    in reply to hunter

You DO realize, don't you that the Federal Reserve has VIOLATED constitution by lending to foreign banks? It's there READ IT! IF they violated that simple rule then how far does it go? These clowns don't give a rat's behind about any of us and here you are supporting them? This is insanity. Urge your senators to vote yes on HR.1207.

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May 5, 2010 5:59 PM    in reply to hologram5

I'm more interested in the Constitution of the United States than the Constitution of Your Imagination. The former has no such prohibition.

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May 6, 2010 11:13 AM    in reply to hunter

You may have noticed that the constitution has grown in the current political fervor. If somebody doesn't like something, it's automatically "unconstitutional."

I do believe we can abolish the supreme court. I can find all the constitutional scholars I need at any teapartier's hangout.

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May 6, 2010 12:03 PM    in reply to hunter

Oh, the Federal Reserve is subject to the rules of the Free Market then?

Like transparency and accountability?

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May 4, 2010 4:10 PM   

The Obama administration says the plutocracy knows best.

Why does Sanders resist such pragmatic progressivism?

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May 4, 2010 4:19 PM   

Here comes the new public option debate.

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May 4, 2010 4:49 PM    in reply to AdAbsurdum

if you mean snotty comments from the Serious Commentariat urging people to just "get over it" and stop blocking Serious Work (like Obama would actually veto a financial reform bill just because it had this audit amendment), then yeah, it's not just coming, it's already here.

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May 4, 2010 4:55 PM    in reply to tatere

Hmm, that's funny; I thought he meant a bunch of screeching whiners shouting about how Obama is a "plutocrat corporatist" hell-bent on selling us all to Goldman Sachs. Matter of perspective I guess...

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May 4, 2010 5:29 PM    in reply to hunter

Pretty a matter of if you come at it from the perspective of a progressive who believes in accountability or a corporatist conservative who wants to protect the bankers.

By your tone, I'm guessing you run with the pro-GOP policy crowd and are a bit defensive about it.

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May 4, 2010 6:28 PM    in reply to kgb999

I was thinking maybe he's part of the 1% crowd either that or a staffer for our House of Lords.

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May 4, 2010 7:51 PM    in reply to kgb999

False Manicheanism much?

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May 5, 2010 6:08 PM    in reply to kgb999

Maybe you should read my lengthy comment above for a good idea of where I stand on this issue. I'm quite progressive; I just also happen to have training in Economics and understand how the Fed works, including why its monetary policy activities are kept secret. And frankly I'm sick and tired of "progressives" around here screaming about Obama "selling out" to the bankers. No reasonable person watching what's going on with this legislation could possibly come to that conclusion...Obama is towing a very hard line with Wall Street. We really shouldn't need much evidence beyond the money the banks are spending to try to water-down or kill the bill, to very little effect. But then again, these boards were on fire during the health care debate with people yelling about how it was a giveaway to the insurance companies who were spending millions to try to kill it at all costs, so I guess that's about par.

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May 6, 2010 12:02 PM    in reply to hunter

Oh, I'm sorry, you with "Economics training" have been so right about everything from the get-go, how could I possibly doubt your wisdom?

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May 4, 2010 5:23 PM   

If the Fed spends taxpayer money they should be audited. If they just set monetary policy they shouldn't be politicized. The Fed handed a big pile of cash to bailed out investment banks and appear to be poised to continue directly spending very large sums of taxpayer money. Therefore they need to be audited...

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May 4, 2010 5:45 PM    in reply to Libertine

The Fed is in charge of our national economic policy and just demanded trillions of dollars from the treasury. There is no metric by which we don't deserve an answer what they did with the money.

I thought the new government standard is if one doesn't want people to look at the details of their actions, maybe they shouldn't be taking the actions in the first place. If they don't have anything to hide, there they don't have anything to fear ... right?

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May 4, 2010 7:56 PM    in reply to kgb999

The Fed is in charge of banking and monetary policy, not economic policy. The two are related, but one bubble fits inside the other on the ol' Venn diagram. And it didn't take taxpayer money from the Treasury. It just "printed" the shit up and lent it to the banks, and then subsequently, after the immediate crisis had passed, it had the banks pay it all back and "unprinted" it.

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May 5, 2010 6:16 PM    in reply to Libertine

If the Fed spends taxpayer money they should be audited.

If that's the criteria, then they shouldn't be audited. They don't spend taxpayer money. Not to be a jerk about it, but the fact that you put it in those terms suggests you aren't well informed enough about the Fed and how it works to be out here indignantly demanding changes to the system.

Perhaps more importantly, they are audited. But Congress specifically, purposefully exempted certain very limited activities from these audits, because publicizing them has the potential to cause market panics, particularly when the financial sector is already in crisis and the Fed is engaging in extraordinary lending. It would be a Very Bad Thing to remove those exemptions, and we would all get to see why the next time a financial crisis hit. As I've said before it's not a bad idea to open the books after the fact, once things are running smoothly again. But we need to be exceptionally careful about it.

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May 4, 2010 5:35 PM   

I always take a good, long look at who's opposed to legislation in order to get a sense of what it will accomplish. Since the idea of this audit is obviously alarming to the Porcellian Club and Piping Rock set, I say do it. Turning the spotlight on the Establishment's self-perpetuating money matrix is long, long overdue. Aristocracies are never as indispensable as they think.

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May 5, 2010 6:58 PM    in reply to Chisholm

Yes, while we're at it let's just dismantle the financial system. The rest of the economy has nothing to do with it, right? That'll teach those greedy bastards!

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May 4, 2010 5:46 PM   

Most money is not minted into circulation. It is created when banks make loans. They make a token deposit in the fed, then they create it basically out of thin air when then write it into your account (fractional reserve system). What they have done is inflated the money supply to cover their own megatheft, further enslaving us, which was coincidentally timed to happen during a lame duck term. The fed is just their bitch.

All those trillions of dollars we are missing went somewhere. It was stolen by very smart people, working for very rich and powerful people, who are all enjoying it right now, right under everybody's noses.

Is congress really going to stick it to the man? And make Obama veto it? I guess it's a pretty safe exercise then. They all look good while O jumps on the grenade.

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May 4, 2010 7:22 PM   

Here are the decisions the White House has made so far:

1.Ignored previous Republican profligacy, crimes, misdemeanors 
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2. Supported a stingy stimulus that was one third tax breaks -

3. Doubled-down and accelerated the Bush bailouts (effectively closing off any other options to address the recession) -


4. Escalated a meaningless and fruitless war -

5. Gutted real financial reform (no Glass-Steagle, no 'too big too fail) -

6. Not helped people with bankruptcy & mortgages remediation -

7. Fiddled around & not passed a jobs bill -

8. Rejected the only option that would have simultaneously extended coverage and cut costs (single payer) -

9. Promoted off shore drilling -

Killing all meaningful provisions of the finance reform bill is certainly consistent with the White House's other decisions. And remember who makes the decisions on financial reform: Geithner and Summers. Predictions ?


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May 5, 2010 6:31 PM    in reply to bill

I prefer this list. Not only is it far more accurate (and not so fantasy-land...you thought single-payer was going to go someplace!?) but it's also far more comprehensive.

Oh, and your suggestion that there aren't any "meaningful provisions" in this bill is downright laughable. Derivatives clearing, consumer protection, capital requirements and the like all don't matter because Obama doesn't want to show the whole market the Fed's dicount window transactions? I'll bet you think HCR ended up being a worthless bill too. You people would bitch if they hanged you with new rope.

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May 4, 2010 8:25 PM   

The arguments I have read here by hunter and others against the Sanders Amendment rest exclusively on fears that such transparency might have greater negative consequences than the current secrecy, in the form of 'stigmatization' or politicization.

In response to the valid rebuttal that the current bookkeeping is not, in fact, opaque but open to direct manipulation by the very players who benefit most from it by gaming their insider knowledge and influence for personal and corporate gain, the fallback position seems to rest entirely on the proclaimed wisdom and expertise of those players that may not be shared by outsiders less intimately familiar with the complexity.

It should be immediately clear why Sen. Sanders and I (and 67 other Senators) remain unpersuaded by all the fearmongering.

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May 5, 2010 6:55 PM    in reply to melior

The arguments I have read here by hunter and others against the Sanders Amendment rest exclusively on fears that such transparency might have greater negative consequences than the current secrecy, in the form of 'stigmatization' or politicization.

Well, the "stigma" is only a smallish part of it. As I see it the far bigger issues are the reaction of the stock market and the reaction of depositors. If the public at large could see which banks were getting huge discount window loans, those banks' stocks would crash and depositors would run on them. It is very nearly impossible to overstate the disaster such a scenario would present.

In response to the valid rebuttal that the current bookkeeping is not, in fact, opaque but open to direct manipulation by the very players who benefit most from it by gaming their insider knowledge and influence for personal and corporate gain...

This is the first time I've heard this rebuttal, and I'm unclear as to whether the "players" you're talking about here are Fed officials or big bankers. If it's the latter, I'd like to see your evidence that they have access to records of the Fed's monetary policy actions. If that's really true, it's extremely dangerous. But it's not. If on the other hand you were referring to Fed officials, I'm not quite sure what specific things you're accusing them of, but I should note that it is highly illegal for them to enrich themselves with these activities.

...the fallback position seems to rest entirely on the proclaimed wisdom and expertise of those players that may not be shared by outsiders less intimately familiar with the complexity.

That's not really right. The real position is that someone has to manage the money supply, and the public can't see it happening or there will be panics. So yes, we understand that there is danger of corruption and abuse (which is precisely why there is an intricate system of checks and balances within the Fed itself) but the alternative is to not do monetary policy. Many countries have tried this (including our own for about 50 years starting with Andrew Jackson) and it has never worked worth a darn (we had 3 major panics in those 50 years). So we accept an imperfect system and the possibility of some measure of corruption because we aren't willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

It should be immediately clear why Sen. Sanders and I (and 67 other Senators) remain unpersuaded by all the fearmongering.

What it looks like from over here is that you drastically underestimate the fallout that would have occurred if the market had seen the Fed injecting liquidity during the crisis. I understand wanting to hold people accountable; that's why I keep suggesting either a one-time audit or a system of time-lagged audits for crises. But it really isn't that hard to see why it's a bad plan to just pull the exemptions that Congress put in for really good reasons.

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May 4, 2010 8:53 PM   

This looks like a classic case of regulatory capture. There seems to be a revolving door between the big banks, especially Goldman-Sachs, and the Fed. The Fed's real focus is Wall Street's health, not Main Street's. I'm for an audit.


Yes, had transparency tainted big banks' credibility, we would've been in worse shape than we are today. But that's a really strong argument for breaking up too-big-to-fail banks and reinstating Glass-Steagall.

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May 4, 2010 8:58 PM   

And as for Obama...well, this confirms what I've thought all along. He's really in awe of movers and shakers, and feels an almost pathological need not to offend them. That was very clear during the whole health care debacle. What was the argument against drug reimportation? A public option? Investigating torture? And so forth...

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May 5, 2010 7:01 PM    in reply to Tanjaoui

Yes, Obama's reluctance to open up monetary policy to public scrutiny and the panics which will accompany it is obvious evidence for his sycophantic handmaidening to rich people. It couldn't possibly be because this issue isn't so simple as bankers=bad.

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May 5, 2010 9:34 AM   

Unike the unsinkable Molly Brown, it seems there isn't a bill Rahm Emanuel can't send to the ocean floor.
He is a champion plug puller.

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