
The Senate today voted overwhelmingly to adopt an amendment, authored by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), forcing a comprehensive review of the Federal Reserve's emergency lending activities. The amendment passed by a 96-0 vote.
Though the measure was always popular, it faced extraordinary opposition from the White House, Wall Street and the Fed itself. Late last week, in a move that defused the opposition, and may have saved Wall Street reform legislation, Sanders agreed to limit the scope of the audit to emergency lending only, exempting other Fed activities.
That preserved the broad intent of the plan, which was always aimed at bringing the Fed's shadowy activities during the financial crisis into the daylight. Under the terms of the proposal, the Fed will also be required to make public which companies received upwards of $2 trillion in aide from the Fed, and under what terms.
In December, the House of Representatives adopted a similar provision--authored by Reps. Alan Grayson (D-FL) and Ron Paul (R-TX)--that would have required a comprehensive Fed audit. But though Grayson still supports a full audit, he applauded the steps that the Senate is taking in a statement last week. "There is deep bipartisan support for a full audit of the Federal Reserve, in both the House and the Senate," Grayson said. "The Sanders Amendment takes a significant step in that direction. I will work hard to help Dr. Paul and Senator Sanders to get a full Fed audit in the final bank reform bill. It is time for America to know what happened to our money."
Reporting by Brian Beutler.
rbeats
May 11, 2010 12:17 PM
You do realize this renders the audit worthless. Have some friends who trade in the big firms? Ask them after a couple drinks how their relationship with the FED works. It will blow your mind, and now that the audit has been sterilized the world will never know how that relationship really works and how it undermines our sovereignty.
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Effin Rightman
May 11, 2010 12:20 PM in reply to rbeats
So, you could tell us a little more about this threat, but you choose not to? I'm not the only one who is now somewhat curious. Please, go on.
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hunter
May 11, 2010 12:26 PM in reply to Effin Rightman
No, he'd rather just deal in ominous vagueries and warn us all of the diabolical New World Order going on in secret vaults under the New York Fed, where goats and virgins are sacrificed to Pluto to ensure that the populace remains enslaved.
Here's a good rule of thumb: when someone suggests that central banking "undermines our sovereignty" they probably don't have much value to add to economic discussions.
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GTFOOH
May 11, 2010 12:30 PM in reply to hunter
Oh damn! Diabolical is back in? I just shaved off my Snidley Whiplash mustache!
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cwnidog
May 11, 2010 1:09 PM in reply to GTFOOH
But you kept the cape & top hat, right?
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worthy9
May 11, 2010 1:50 PM in reply to GTFOOH
+10
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seedeevee
May 11, 2010 1:35 PM in reply to hunter
I'll speak up for rbeats.
As for the statement from hunter -- "Here's a good rule of thumb: when someone suggests that central banking "undermines our sovereignty" they probably don't have much value to add to economic discussions." -- I'd have to say that anyone who uses a "rule of a thumb" is an intellectually lazy POS. It can be proven by most of the comments following yours. Here's looking at you chameleon, Effin Rightman, etc.
Get off your lazy asses and comment about what rbeats was insinuating, not what your juvenile minds are preoccupied with. Maybe the problem is that your minds have already been "blown" and are now useless.
A country can not have "sovereignty" with its economy run by private banks with little or no governmental oversight. It was pretty easy . . . .
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mass_murdock
May 11, 2010 2:32 PM in reply to seedeevee
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." - Mayer Anselm Rothschild
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Stephen Burgoyne Coulson
May 11, 2010 2:54 PM in reply to hunter
"when someone suggests that central banking 'undermines our sovereignty' they probably don't have much value to add to economic discussions."
It depends on who owns the central bank. Whoever owns the bank owns the country.
"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson
No value to add?
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OriGuy
May 11, 2010 5:15 PM in reply to Stephen Burgoyne Coulson
Whether or not that represents Jefferson's beliefs, he probably did not say that.
http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Private_Banks_%28Quotation%29
The first part of the quotation ("If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered") has not been found anywhere in Thomas Jefferson's writings, to Albert Gallatin or otherwise. It is identified in Respectfully Quoted as spurious, and the editor further points out that the words "inflation" and "deflation" did not come into use until 1864 and 1920, respectively.
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JEP07
May 11, 2010 5:27 PM in reply to OriGuy
mucho mas
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:10 PM in reply to OriGuy
Those who don't have a legitimate argument make shit up.
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larsvanness
May 12, 2010 12:19 AM in reply to OriGuy
Kudos to you origuy!!!
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castanea
May 11, 2010 8:36 PM in reply to hunter
Haha! Virgins in Manhattan. As if.
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jjdjjd
May 11, 2010 9:57 PM in reply to hunter
virgins? in america?
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 1:03 PM in reply to Effin Rightman
If you are waiting for rbeats to explain anything you will be waiting a long time. It just loves to post bullshit and then duck out of the way.
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tchamp77
May 11, 2010 12:23 PM in reply to rbeats
"Have some friends who trade in the big firms?"
No, but I do have many that cut lawns. Would that be useful?
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political_observer
May 11, 2010 1:06 PM in reply to tchamp77
I also stayed at the Holiday Inn.
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OhioGuy
May 11, 2010 12:25 PM in reply to rbeats
I'm waiting to have my mind blown too. Do go on, for the benefit of those of us without drinking buddies who trade at the big firms.
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mcrose68
May 11, 2010 1:31 PM in reply to OhioGuy
And I know I wouldn't mind getting blown.
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It's Pat
May 11, 2010 12:43 PM in reply to rbeats
Please share these after drinks conversations. I'd love to have my mind blown, also too.
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Dave in ME
May 11, 2010 1:59 PM in reply to rbeats
"Have some friends who trade in the big firms?"
No, but then again, neither do you. You sure you are on the right website? Think you meant to head to Hot Air.....
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May 11, 2010 2:26 PM in reply to rbeats
I think it's absolutely nuts that some people are distracting us from the real issues here and act as if COMPLETELY auditing the Federal Reserve is a bad idea. These are probably the same people that think that transparency within society on DirtyPhoneBook. Seriously, the Federal Reserve manipulates the money supply for rich bankers at the expense of everyday folks and there are actually everyday folks out there that DO NOT want to completely audit the Fed? I seriously don't get it. I am FED UP with the Fed and I support a FULL AND COMPLETE audit immediately.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:08 PM in reply to Maria
No one said that "COMPLETELY" auditing the Fed is a bad idea.
We had to wait for YOU to interject that Commie-ist Fish.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 7:59 PM in reply to rbeats
You obviously DON'T realize that law EVOLVES. Even non-controversial laws which have existed for decades are amended, again and again, as a matter of routine.
The point is to establish in law a STARTING point on which to build.
I'm fed up with you throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater dipshits. If you don't get it all, you want nothing. And then you bitch about getting nothing. Grow up.
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tytester
May 11, 2010 9:41 PM in reply to JNagarya
The Sanders' amendment that passed provides for a ONE-TIME audit (from Dec. 1, 2007 until the bill is signed into law). So how do you plan to "build on" or "expand" a law that provides for a one-time audit?
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Ivo
May 12, 2010 1:03 AM in reply to JNagarya
"I'm fed up with you throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater dipshits. If you don't get it all, you want nothing. And then you bitch about getting nothing. Grow up."
THIS.
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jjdjjd
May 12, 2010 3:41 AM in reply to JNagarya
we agree!!!! which should give us both an opportunity to re-examine our views on the matter.
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Sir T
May 12, 2010 7:47 AM in reply to JNagarya
"I'm fed up with you throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater dipshits. If you don't get it all, you want nothing. And then you bitch about getting nothing. Grow up"
Signed
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jdb316
May 11, 2010 12:22 PM
Would Obama have really had the stones to veto the bill if it allowed for a full-scale audit of the Fed?
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CranialRectalLoopback
May 11, 2010 12:23 PM
There will never be emergencies. Even if there are, the audit will be post-facto, and all will chant the mantra "let's not play the blame game".
Once again, a supposed progress folds like a cheep suit.
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 1:05 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
"cheep" suit. Learn how to spell please. Is that too much to ask?
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CranialRectalLoopback
May 11, 2010 1:56 PM in reply to chameleon
Be sure to focus on the unimportant. Did you figure out what I meant?
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expat46
May 11, 2010 1:18 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
cheep suit? Is that like a chicken costume?
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CranialRectalLoopback
May 11, 2010 1:59 PM in reply to expat46
Spelling itself is arbitrary, as is pronunciation. You know, I before E except after C, but what about science? In this case it is e if i when after c. So, you see, spelling is arbitrary. And from what I can tell, you figured out what I meant, you just didn't have any intelligent response. But that's ok. Or is that that's OK? Is it that that's okay? Maybe it's Si?
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imagiste
May 11, 2010 2:25 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
I prefer a
chepe suyt myself.
A speech well made, a job well done, the people's obligation paid. Lofty amendments helping none.
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expat46
May 11, 2010 3:07 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
Sorry for the lame attempt at humor, I usually ignore spelling errors because it only takes a few minutes before karma sets in.
So, what's the angle of your complaint with this compromise? Are you a lefty concern troll or are you infected with Ron Paulitis? Maybe your a member of the Maryland GOP platform committee and you want a full and transparent audit as a first step to eliminating the FED? Maybe a nice return to the gold standard, hmmm?
Now, I'm sure you get this a a lot with that avatar but if you would pull your head out of your ass for a second maybe you would realize the inherent danger in the politicization of monetary policy.
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steve davis
May 11, 2010 4:54 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
The i before e mnemonic isn't a rule. It's a helpful way to remember something that is often true. Languages generally have very few rules. They have instead what are known as conventions, meaning that people do things the way they do them because that's how it's been decided they're done. So people say, "It's me," all the time, even though that's dreadful grammar. They also say "between you and I," which is frankly even worse, but enough people do it to where it's pointless to correct people every time they make that error.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:15 PM in reply to steve davis
The purpose of grammar is not so much to tell language what to do as it is to describe that it is already doing.
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 3:17 PM in reply to expat46
Exactly....
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Eric Jaffa
May 11, 2010 12:25 PM
So the Fed can refuse to turn over anything it wants by characterizing past activity as a regular loan, not an emergency loan.
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hunter
May 11, 2010 12:44 PM in reply to Eric Jaffa
I don't think it's quite so simple for them to pull such a switcheroo. By "emergency lending" I'm pretty sure they mean "Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility" which is a distinctly separate thing from the typical discount-window stuff. I doubt the GAO would be fooled by the Fed just switching the numbers and saying "Oh, that $2T you thought went through TABSLF? No, no, that was just business as usual."
And in any case, Brian's characterization of this as only applying to that emergency lending doesn't square with what I've read elsewhere: that the current plan is an audit of everything but interest rate policy and the normal discount window. Which is fine by me...it really seems pretty clear that the important part is to get TABSLF out in the open. That should go a long way to answer what role the Fed had in the consolidation and deciding which banks lived and died.
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tytester
May 11, 2010 3:18 PM in reply to hunter
I just went and compared the original Sanders amendment to the amendment that passed. The major difference is that the original amendment did not list the programs/facilities that were to be audited, while the original amendment lists them explicitly - i.e.
"the Asset Backed Commercial Paper Money Market Mutual Fund Liquidity Facility, the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility, the Primary Dealer Credit Facility, the Commercial Paper Funding Facility, the Term Securities Lending Facility, the Term Auction Facility, Maiden Lane, Maiden Lane II, Maiden Lane III, the agency Mortgage-Backed Securities program, foreign currency liquidity swap lines, and any other program created as a result of the third undesignated paragraph of section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act."
So whatever is missing from this list is what the Fed and the WH do NOT want to be audited (i.e., whatever is missing from this list is what is being hidden). Notably, the lending through the discount window does NOT appear to be on the above list (the financial experts here should correct me if I am wrong).
Its too bad I don't have the time to dig through this garbage to find the program/facility that the WH/Fed wants to remain unaudited/hidden. But there are reporters out there that should be able to dig it out. Beutler? Hello?
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tytester
May 11, 2010 3:35 PM in reply to tytester
I really hate doing this...
The facility below is missing from the amendment that passed:
"The Money Market Investor Funding Facility (MMIFF) was designed to provide liquidity to U.S. money market investors. Under the MMIFF, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York could provide senior secured funding to a series of special purpose vehicles to facilitate an industry-supported private-sector initiative to finance the purchase of eligible assets from eligible investors. The MMIFF was announced on October 21, 2008, and expired on October 30, 2009." (from the Fed website)
Yet the MMIFF is listed on the Fed website along with 5 other facilities that are to be audited. So, hunter, buddy, can you explain why MMIFF is NOT to be audited?
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expat46
May 11, 2010 7:53 PM in reply to tytester
Kudos, tytester. It would be nice to get an answer to this question.
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tytester
May 11, 2010 9:28 PM in reply to expat46
It turns out the MMIFF is the small (hidden) potato. From the Fed website, the crisis response included 3 types of instruments, the 3rd type being described as follows:
"As a third set of instruments, the Federal Reserve has expanded its traditional tool of open market operations to support the functioning of credit markets through the purchase of longer-term securities for the Federal Reserve's portfolio. For example, in November 2008, the Federal Reserve announced plans to purchase up to $100 billion in government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) debt and up to $500 billion in mortgage-backed securities. In March 2009, the Federal Reserve announced plans to purchase up to $300 billion of longer-term Treasury securities in addition to increasing its total purchases of GSE debt and mortgage-backed securities to up to $200 billion and $1.25 trillion, respectively."
Now, this is the BIG (hidden) potato: without an audit, we cannot know what mortgage-backed securities (e.g., CDOs) the Fed bought, how much they paid, and from whom they bought it. Mind you, we are talking about $1.45 TRILLION. It is clear that this WAS to be audited in the original Sanders' amendment, but is NOT audited in the amendment that passed. The amendment that passed covers what I listed above plus any programs under Section 13(3) of the Federal Reserve Act, which outlines what the Fed can do in an emergency. The above "3rd type" of instruments, however, are part of the "traditional tool of open market operations", which does not fall under Section 13(3) but is under the "open market operations" powers of the Fed.
Also from the Fed website, under the "open market operations" the Fed can buy only Treasury bonds and bonds from other federal agencies. So how could they expand this power to buy mortgage-backed securities is also worth looking up - especially since it appears that this program was drastically expanded in March 2009 under the Obama administration.
All these things need to brought into the light. Unfortunately, however, we do not have reporters to do it - TPM put up the huge headline about "96-0", and then moved on to other "news".
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 10:14 PM in reply to tytester
It is these things that I am striving so hard to understand. Thank you for explaining this.
I don't think I or most other people are stupid for not understanding them---I suspect that they are intentionally made obtuse so that we cannot understand them.
So do I understand correctly? The Fed is normally only chartered to by treasury securities, but during the crisis was allowed to by CDO's?
And this is outside the realm of the current audit bill?
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tytester
May 12, 2010 5:12 PM in reply to JosephP
The way I understand this, it is yes to both questions: the Fed can buy only Treasury bonds and bonds from other agencies (based on info on the Fed website, I did not read the Federal Reserve Act to confirm this); and the mortgage-backed securities portfolio is NOT to be audited in the Sanders amendment that passed, but was to be audited according to the original amendment (this one I checked by comparing the text of the original amendment on the Congress website to the amendment that passed per Bernie's website).
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The Ouroborus
May 11, 2010 12:27 PM
Watch out Bernie, you know what happened to other political figures that tried to rein the Fed in. The Morgans, Rockefellers and Rothschilds of the world just simply can't have anyone messing with their private money making machine.
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hunter
May 11, 2010 12:46 PM in reply to The Ouroborus
...you know what happened to other political figures that tried to rein the Fed in.
No, I don't...please go on!
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imagiste
May 11, 2010 2:32 PM in reply to hunter
start with Greider's "Secrets of the Temple"
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:19 PM in reply to imagiste
The author of which was Billy Bilderburger.
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Eric Jaffa
May 11, 2010 12:31 PM
An audit which doesn't include all the money which the Fed takes in and gives out isn't really an "audit."
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hunter
May 11, 2010 1:04 PM in reply to Eric Jaffa
Hogwash. Audits of parts of organizations, or specific programs etc. are conducted all the time. It sounds like you're just redefining the word more narrowly to suit the point you're trying to make. How about instead of arguing over the semantic point of whether or not this fits your definition of "audit," you actually come up with a substantive complaint. Or, put another way, what's the problem you see with keeping the interest rate discussions and normal discount window under wraps?
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Eric Jaffa
May 11, 2010 8:20 PM in reply to hunter
The amendment could have said that everything would be audited except for "interest rate discussions."
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tytester
May 11, 2010 9:48 PM in reply to Eric Jaffa
The original Sanders' amendment stated exactly that - i.e., it expressly excluded audit of any discussions about setting the rates. However, apparently this was not what the real concern with the original Sanders' amendment was. (see my comment above for what appears to have been the real concern of the WH/Fed.)
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GTFOOH
May 11, 2010 12:33 PM
If Bernie isn't careful, the right wing smear machine is going to start calling him a socialist!
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hunter
May 11, 2010 12:47 PM in reply to GTFOOH
Ha! Best comment all day, thanks!
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 1:08 PM in reply to GTFOOH
He is a socialist!! Has been for years. He makes no bones about it either. he wears it as a badge of honor.
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cwnidog
May 11, 2010 1:11 PM in reply to chameleon
Time for an irony refill.
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GTFOOH
May 11, 2010 3:07 PM in reply to chameleon
Well, if I have to explain the jokes to you...
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 3:58 PM in reply to GTFOOH
sorry no explanation needed.....
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:22 PM in reply to GTFOOH
I'll bet there's a vast conspiracy behind WHY the far-right DOESN''T call him a socialist.
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Indie Pro
May 11, 2010 12:36 PM
Finding out what happened during the bailouts, and under what terms is significant.
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tbhull
May 11, 2010 12:40 PM
it is a start.
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FreemanW
May 11, 2010 1:48 PM in reply to tbhull
Now we just need to form a Committee to keep track of all the "change" that has been "started."
Why is no one questioning the White House for standing shoulder to shoulder with Wall Street in opposition to the original scope of Audit in Bernie's Amendment?
Honest question. I'm looking at (for) the regular Obama can do no wrong lovers here.
Is there a progressive out there (besides me) that can admit this Administration is just a little owned by corporations? Is there a progressive out there that wonders if Obama has the slightest bit of integrity when it comes to looking out for the People?
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OhioHunter
May 11, 2010 2:53 PM in reply to FreemanW
I voted for Pres. Obama and have been a stalwart defender of him, but I, too, have begun wondering which side he is really on. Some of the positions he has taken recently have just left me in a WTF frame of mind.
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expat46
May 11, 2010 10:03 PM in reply to OhioHunter
I don't know Freeman. I've got so much emotionally invested in the guy it's really hard to give up on him, even though I'm old enough to know better than to put much faith in a politician.
It does seem like I've been spending a lot of time searching for justification and it's wearing me out. I feel like I've got battered wife syndrome, you know "He's a really nice guy when he's not drinking" type of stuff. For example, my first reaction was to question your 'shoulder to shoulder with Wall Street' statement.
I don't know enough about the subject to decide if this compromise is a bad thing. I think I need to find a good gardening blog.
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nova voter
May 12, 2010 6:50 AM in reply to OhioHunter
so in other words, the fact that he doesn't govern in accordance with ALL of your positions gives you pause? pretty high bar you got there ... and quite a bit of confidence that it really is your way or the highway.
i don't mean that as a snarky attack on you. i'm just saying that:
first, the last guy pandered to his "base" with just about every decision. that kind of dogma didn't work out too well for the country -- it polarized the country even further and made it that much harder to get shit done.
second, the positions staked out by the president aren't staked out in a vacuum. there are quite a few moving parts in this country, now more than ever. i mean, this is butterfly flapping its wings in tokyo type shit.
last, as i said before, i don't think the left is "right" about everything, nor do i think the right is, either. some of our ideas are the better ones, and some of theirs are, as well. if you can't accept that that's a possibility, it's pretty difficult to even begin the conversation.
it has always struck me that this is how obama promised to govern and how he governs. and it's why he appealed to me during the campaign and why he still appeals to me.
at least, that's what i think.
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bill
May 11, 2010 12:44 PM
So, there's two trillion that went to the financial industry.
There are 10% of our workers unemployed.
There are upwards to 20% of our workers underemployed (employed below their skill levels).
There are record foreclosures.
There are record bankruptcies.
And the financial industry is making record profits.
What could possibly be better?
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hunter
May 11, 2010 12:54 PM in reply to bill
Well, lots of things could have been better; we could have not totally screwed up the housing and lending markets for eight years running up to September 2008. But considering the situation we found ourselves in at that point, we've honestly come out really lucky. Given a credit squeeze of that magnitude coupled with our negative savings rate, high private debt, high public debt and already negative job growth, we should by all rights be in a Great Depression right now.
And I know it pains you...but a good part of the reason we aren't in such a depression right now is that we decided to create a massive moral hazard and payoff the bandits holding a gun to the economy's head. Yes, it sucks. But the alternative was a lot worse.
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bill
May 11, 2010 1:41 PM in reply to hunter
Im sorry, but your assertion that 'it could have been worse' is simply not compelling.
It's a good line; Im sure you'll continue to use it; and, perhaps, some people will believe it.
But an assertion that 'it could have been worse' is simply not very compelling.
The economy was 'bad' - Yes. But the decisions made were worse - they favored financial institutions over individuals. The economy faced by FDR was 'bad' - but the decisions favored individuals, not financial institutions.
It could have been worse - Yes. And, it could have been better - Yes.
These are the facts:
The financial industry's profits are at record levels;
Workers, voters and individuals are hurting; and
The nation is deeper in debt (in order to bailout the financial industry).
As I said, the hocus pokus of 'it could have been worse' is simply not very compelling.
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Derek Stodghill
May 11, 2010 1:55 PM in reply to bill
I'd like to point out that any financial or banking crises will create high unemployment for long periods of time. Even the Swedes who nationalized their banks temporarily in response to a crisis went from 3% to 10% unemployment. There's no guarantee that other methods would have prevented a rise in unemployment any better than the bailout method. The loss of revenue and increase in the cost of the social safety net will end up costing much more than all the bailouts combined. Many wage earners will experience a permanent drop in income that will never come back.
Contrast that to the stock market crash of 1929 which saw huge levels of long term unemployment and dramatic loss of GDP. When people (like me) say it could have been worse, they are comparing 2008 with 1929. The two situations are very similar and how things were handled were drastically different. I like the way things turned out now rather than 80 years ago myself.
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Homefries
May 11, 2010 3:39 PM in reply to Derek Stodghill
My grandmother, who was born in 1896 (who is no longer alive, although she lived long enough to vote for Clinton and watch a man land on the moon) summed up the great depression quite nicely to me some years ago.
They had worked all their lives living frugally, saving their money, investing in their business and real estate interests. Then one day, they went to the bank and there was a lock on the door. And that was that.
I think most reasonable people would agree that today's situation is better.
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JEP07
May 11, 2010 5:47 PM in reply to Homefries
as long as the ATM works, no one will riot...
Or is that just too simple?
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bill
May 11, 2010 10:15 PM in reply to Derek Stodghill
I offer these facts:
1 The financial industry losses the money we invested / entrusted to them.
2 The financial industry receives from the government money we have paid / will pay in taxes to bail themselves out.
3 One year later, the financial industry declares record profits.
4 One year later, the US government is hobbled by debt.
In this scenario, debt is shifted from the financial industry to the taxpayer. Loss is shifted from the financial industry to the taxpayer. And paying off the losses is shifted from the private sector to the public sector.
The next scene will find the government cutting more public services and raising more taxes.
A major reason for cutting services and raising taxes is the legacy of the financial bailout.
Again, the financial industry declared record profits this year and the federal government, though bailing out the financial industry, recorded record debt.
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willia451
May 11, 2010 12:55 PM in reply to bill
Haiti?
What point are you trying to make?
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chitowner
May 11, 2010 12:49 PM
Usually when Congressional critters agree this much, not much has been agreed to.
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matyra
May 11, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to chitowner
or that the stigma of not agreeing is greater than doing what one wants. Once enough people are for this, it'd be suicide not to vote for it. McConnell must have thought it this way.
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midnight rambler
May 11, 2010 1:54 PM in reply to chitowner
Actually, what it usually means is that one side realizes that the other one has the votes to pass it, and they will look bad if they vote against it even though they think it's a bad idea. The vote to defund ACORN was similar.
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JimmyBobby
May 11, 2010 12:57 PM
When would the Senate EVER NOT vote itself more power and influence? This is a bad idea, opening the door for a lot of grandstanding in areas where the bozos have very little, if any, idea what the Fed really does or of the fiscal intricacies of our economy.
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thepeoplechoose
May 11, 2010 1:12 PM
This is good. The one time the US Senate gets an absolutely unanimous vote on something the only reason it happens is because they're all lying. Wouldn't you just know it.
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Libertine
May 11, 2010 1:15 PM
Definitely a step in the right direction...good job Bernie, Alan and Ron.
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RWN
May 11, 2010 1:26 PM
This will not go away, it begins the process will lead to a bigger audit public airing.
The thing is this is simply too big and the time was so rushed that so much was done. This is no ordinary crisis it compares to the Civil War and Great Depression, whole institutions will be torn down.
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expat46
May 11, 2010 1:30 PM in reply to RWN
Not a fan of the 'audit the fed' movement?
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Dorn76
May 11, 2010 1:53 PM
OK, so now we got an issue...All those who said Sanders was a White Knight and Obama and the WH were the Evil Empire beholden only to their Banking Masters have some 'splainin to do..
Or maybe it was never so black and white to begin with, hmmm?
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FreemanW
May 11, 2010 1:57 PM
The last time a legislative body saw unanimity like this, Californians were given electric utility "deregulation" that resulted in Enron a$$r@ping the entire state by gaming the electrical distribution grid.
/fond memories, good times
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lamonth
May 11, 2010 1:59 PM
sanders seems to one of the honest ones - there are not many. i see congress is doing what they do best, watering down the derivative legislation so taxpayers can continue to subsidize the super rich. cleaning the slate does not sound bad
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Arundhati
May 11, 2010 2:09 PM
Sanders looks like Nikita Kruschev. Thinks like him, too.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:32 PM in reply to Arundhati
The US has staunch allies with political systems comprised of --
1. Monarchy.
2. Democratically-elected parliaments.
3. Socialist economies.
Some of those staunch allies have such weird -- and foreign -- names as --
1. Britain.
2. Denmark.
3. Norway.
4. Sweden.
So tell us, Einstein: which of those are "so-schul-ist tyrannies"?
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davidfarrar
May 11, 2010 2:31 PM
The House bill included an amendment from Republican Representative Ron Paul that would extend congressional audits to monetary policy, a measure vehemently opposed by the Fed on the grounds it would compromise its independence.
If the Senate bill is approved, it will have to be merged with the House bill before a package could go to Obama to be signed into law. Analysts expect the Sanders amendment will survive that process, while the Paul amendment will not.
ex animo
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Ivo
May 12, 2010 1:17 AM in reply to davidfarrar
that's because Ron Paul is a right-wing wacko. he doesn't want to audit the Fed, he wants to destroy it and return to the gold standard.
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Partisancheese
May 11, 2010 3:15 PM
Something is better than nothing. . . I guess.
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Nutter
May 11, 2010 3:24 PM
You know, I find it interesting where all these anti-fed stuff is coming from.
They are either from libertarians, which should be GLAD if the Fed was corporate own because government is SO evil!
People who thinks the Fed could had just let inflation rise a few percentages (and how exactly are they suppose to do that? Negative interest rates?)
People that cannot do a high grade scantron quiz on the fed and get above 50
Or people that think it is better that Congress or the President should control the money supply (while believing that every freaking one of them is corporate own)
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:48 PM in reply to Nutter
They are either from libertarians, which should be GLAD if the Fed was corporate own because government is SO evil!
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"Libertarians" know that if there were no law at all everyone would behave themselves.
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bill
May 11, 2010 9:46 PM in reply to Nutter
I find it interesting that simple facts are found to be so illusive by some folks:
1 Financial industry losses money we invested / entrusted to them.
2 Financial industry receives money we have paid / will pay in taxes to bail themselves out.
3 One year later, financial industry declares record profits.
4 One year later, US government hobbled by debt.
Causality ... ?
And the folks who developed and guided the policy decisions served in both the Bush and the Obama administrations or were appointed to positions by both Bush and Obama.
Coincidence ... ?
You dont have to be a libertarian to realize you've been ripped off and dont have to pass a test to know who to hold responsible.
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wowisdabomb
May 11, 2010 3:41 PM
That is not an audit, it is joke.
If auditors do not have access to all the information, then they will get only what Banks-Goldman Sachs want them to see..
Sanders.... EPIC FAIL.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:37 PM in reply to wowisdabomb
If I choose to count the money in my piggy bank, but not to count the money in my bank account, I am conducting an audit of my piggy bank.
Too uncomplicated for you because it lacks implied conspiracy?
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JEP07
May 11, 2010 5:34 PM
Why can't they be audited? Doesn't this resistance to scrutiny suggest they have something to hide?
Numbers don't lie nearly as much as the people who keep track of them.
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JEP07
May 11, 2010 5:57 PM in reply to JEP07
If they got unanimous consent, then the bill needed more teeth.
Wish they could add some amendments back in and see who of the 96 drops out, and why...
How about an annual financial report, BY The Fed, with their own self audit for the report publicly available?
Every spread sheet, from the smallest investor to the biggest banks is in digital form somewhere, why should any of it be inaccessible to public scrutiny?
Class management? Keep the common folks common?
Maybe someday they can just create a class of investors who can profit off the losses of common investors!!!
That someday has come and gone, and derivatives are their latest instrument of choice to redistribute the life savings of the working class back to the robber barrons who paid it to them in the first place. They milked their healthcare investments to the brink, now they need a whole new class of investments that doesn't pretend to be anything but a commonwealth pirate ship.
And what IS the price of admission? Nothing for the common person, it costs upwards of $116,000 maybe more by the time you read this, for a single share of Berkshire Hathaway.
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Lestatdelc
May 11, 2010 5:43 PM
While it's good to do a forensics on what occurred in the run up to, and response to the financial market crisis and near collapse/freeze, that this is a limited scope, one time audit does not auger for the sort of transparency and preventative systemic and regulatory changes needed to prevent this sort of disaster (and other variations thereof) from occurring.
The real test will of course be if installing the Volcker Rule will pass, and if a modern variation of re-installation of the Glass-Steagall Act occur.
Thankfully my J,r Senator, Jeff Merkley is working on the former, and he is as sharp as they come (legislatively) on such matters.
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Viva!America!
May 11, 2010 5:48 PM
Omg! you guys ain't happy no matter what. Sanders got the votes and even if its a partial audit its more than anyone on the Left could have gotten.
Good for you Sanders.
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Geoff Johnson
May 11, 2010 6:01 PM in reply to Viva!America!
Sanders is totally on the left (more than anyone else in the Senate)--he's just incredibly good at strange bedfellow coalitions. Years ago he pulled a similar coup with the Freedom to Read Act to repeal part of the PATRIOT ACT (though the GOP used tricks to shoot that down).
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JEP07
May 11, 2010 6:04 PM in reply to Viva!America!
I agree, it is a good start. But it really chaps my citizen's ass, knowing the IRS can peek at my business books whenever they demand it, yet The Fed, whose fiscal machinations matter so much more to the whole picture than my minutia, seems able to make itself immune to even rudimentary oversight.
Methinks our priorities are turned topsy turvy.
I's SO confused! Shouldn't something as important as The Fed be subject to unrestricted scrutiny, while the common citizen should get that right to privacy?
Somethings amiss..
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 6:59 PM in reply to Viva!America!
Isn't that the truth? I have never seen such whining and complaining no matter what. Nothing is ever good enough. The changes you are all wishing and hoping for are next to impossible to accomplish with the stroke of a pen. Change usually happens incrementally - not in one big fell swoop.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:43 PM in reply to chameleon
Yep. They want it all, or nothing. And when they get nothing, they bitch about that.
And if by chance they get all they want, they whine that the punctuation is unsatisfactory.
What's worse is that they're impervious to learning how democratic legislatures work.
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 7:29 PM
I think I now have Obama figured out. I really bought that hope and change stuff. But now I see that Obama is incredibly sleazy---like a good trial lawyer, he is a gifted orator and a very smart man, but a slimeball none the less.
His technique is to position himself as a supporter of populist legislation, but behind the scenes water it down with compromises and deals. The corporations get concrete concessions; the people get promises.
This is what happened with the health care reform bait-and-switch. Without the Public Option, it was worse than useless, since it made concrete concessions to big Pharma (no price negotiation, no re-importation of drugs) in return for mere promises (insurance companies supposedly cannot to drop patients with pre-existing conditions, but they continue to do so).
His pick of Elena Kagan shows that he really has no commitment to limiting legislative power, as does his dismissal of any investigation into Bush excesses (but relentless prosecution of government whistleblowers). His has yet to close Guantanamo or take serious steps to significantly reduce our commitment in Iraq. And his declaration that now is not the time to repeal DADT is identical to a poker player declaring that if his opponent raises, he will have to fold (and of course he wanted to fold all along).
And with this "Audit the Fed," something stinks to high heaven.
This bill faced extraordinary opposition from the Wall Street, the White House, and the Fed itself. Then, just by limiting the audit to emergency spending only, it passes without any opposition at all.
I think we are being sold a bill of goods. The same bait-and-switch will happening here as in health care---"emergency spending" will be narrowly defined so that the real shenanigans are hidden and no real audit will be performed. Then Obama will crow about what landmark legislation this is, while meanwhile nothing more will be heard about the audit.
Knowing what I now realize about Obama (i.e., he's a sleazeball), I think I can predict what his future legislative record will be. This week we will get a climate bill from Senators Kerry and Lieberman which no doubt will call for more drilling, more nuclear plants, and support for the sham of clean coal in exchange for promises from polluters to limit emissions. But the bill will be written in an unenforceable way, and polluters will carry on as usual.
Also coming down the pike is the issue of net neutrality. If Obama plays is to form, he will craft a bill that enshrines in law the ability of corporations to charge what they want, driving out competition, in return for some concessions that are unenforceable but he will still trumpet.
I really have had it with Obama. Like other commenters pointed out, there is no excuse, with a Democratic majority into both houses, for Obama to be appointing corporatists like Kagan. Except that it is now become clear that it truly is his own ideology.
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JEP07
May 11, 2010 7:44 PM in reply to JosephP
"I really bought that hope and change stuff."
...if the reader considers that statement as false, then the remainder of this twisted rant is much easier to understand.
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 8:14 PM in reply to JEP07
It's a rant, no doubt. But what is twisted about it?
It's time for progressives to stop defending Obama simply because he is "our" guy. If he acts like a sleazy lawyer, then I am going to call him that.
And the rant is because I expected more from Obama. I certainly did not expect Bush and Cheney to act like anything but corporatists, commandeering the government to enrich themselves and their rich buddies.
But I did expect something out of Obama. His election was a milestone in racial advancement, but I thought it was more than that. I didn't fight for him, defending him in my workplace of right wing morons, and vote for him, just to see him act like an African American version of Bush lite.
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JNagarya
May 11, 2010 8:58 PM in reply to JosephP
What's with the "limiting legislative power"? Isn't that the OPPOSITE of what you claim to want?
And I'm tired of those who bash President Obama as being a "sleazy lawyer" simply because they haven't a clue how the system is to work.
Again: what's with the "limiting legislative power"?
Instead of making it up as you go along out of the recesses of your paranoia, try listening to those who KNEW and KNOW Kagan instead of asserting falsehoods about her positions.
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 9:22 PM in reply to JNagarya
I was typing fast and wrote some things incorrectly. Let me clarify.
By "limiting legislative power," I meant to say, "placing limits on unchecked executive power."
And by "unchecked executive power" I mean "allowing the president to assassinate an American citizen without trial."
Bush merely assumed the right to imprison Americans without trial---Obama claims the right to actually kill them.
And Kagan, with her "The Entire World is a Terrorist Battlefield" outlook is unlikely to be much of a check and balance to Obama's view.
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chameleon
May 11, 2010 9:35 PM in reply to JosephP
Then GTFOOH. Your post is so idiotic it wins the worst post of the day. What an idiot. Go vote for the republicans and the tea party. You will be in good company.
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tytester
May 11, 2010 10:02 PM in reply to chameleon
The truth hurts much, eh? JoesephP just wrote what he thinks, so how does that make him an "idiot"? Projecting much, chameleon?
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 10:03 PM in reply to chameleon
Sorry, but I'm not going anywhere. Why should I? Because I said what I really feel about Obama that you disagree with?
Are you such a blind Obama supporter that you simply cannot abide anyone calling him a "sleazy lawyer?" Are the taunts from Rush about liberals unable to criticize their "Anointed One" true for your case?
Of course I'm not going to side with the clueless teabaggers. They're naive fools, whipped up into a frenzy by evil manipulators (mainly establishment republicans) that want to harness their anger for their own ends. I hope it backfires on the republicans, as it seems to have in the Utah Senate race. My anger is not based on phony talking points and code words like "socialism."
I have a genuine anger at Obama. It comes from my strong feeling of being played a fool by believing his campaign of "hope and change"---a slogan that really resonated with me. And now I discover that he is merely a politician like any other---playing to the corporate power structure, and selling out the individuals that fought so hard for him.
I know of course that McCain/Palin would have been a disaster for the country, so I guess I had no choice in 2010. But the fact that Obama seems to be counting on that continuing to be true (by taking corporate friendly positions only slightly to the left of Republicans) is what causes me to rant like this.
I can only say that I will be closely examining his primary challenger in 2012.
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expat46
May 11, 2010 10:38 PM in reply to JosephP
primary challenger in 2012? Hold on there Joseph. Check out a little history before you start with the primary challenge for a sitting president. We're already having blog wars between the Obamabots v. Obamabots. Can you say president Palin??
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 10:48 PM in reply to expat46
You may be right---I don't want to stand on principle and let something awful like you just said (can't even type it) happen.
But the fact that Obama and Rahm seem to be counting on this attitude from sensible voters is what I find so frustrating.
All I have at the moment is to hurl "2012" threats. But I might later seriously decide that I mean them.
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expat46
May 11, 2010 10:57 PM in reply to JosephP
I feel your pain brother. Let's not lose our heads.
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DoubleFelix
May 11, 2010 7:49 PM
A key question is why did Sanders cave in, allowing the bill to be essentially neutered? After all, if this got 96-0, then surely there must have been some variation of the bill with real teeth that could get, say 70-26.
This bill lets everybody off the hook -- giving everybody an opportunity to say they voted for bringing sunshine to the Fed, knowing full well that there will be nothing like a real audit. and we most certainly will NOT bring sunshine upon the day to day corruption of this institution.
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 8:28 PM in reply to DoubleFelix
Exactly what I think...see my rant above.
This spirit of compromise always sounds good. But there are times when there is no obligation to compromise. Imagine that a pickpocket takes your wallet, and you catch him and fight with him in the street. Do you have an obligation to compromise with him---give him, say, half your money and only keep half for yourself?
So why are we obligated to compromise in auditing the Fed?
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oleeb
May 11, 2010 10:01 PM
Bernie for President!
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 10:27 PM
Reading back over the comments, I think tytester might have hit on the change that took this bill from a "no way in hell" to "we're all in." It's a critically important change because it prevents this bill from being a genuine audit.
If I understand correctly, the Fed is normally only chartered to buy treasury securities. But during the crisis the Fed either was permitted or simply took it upon itself to buy CDOs, which are simply bundled mortgages---many of which were stinky bad due to people being refinanced to terms they could never afford.
And it appears that the audit, which formerly covered all Fed transactions, would now not cover any CDO transactions, since it is not part of the original chartered function of the Fed.
Can this be true? Is it really just that simple? That would be like the TSA being allowed to strip search a terrorist to their heart's content, but not being allowed to look in the terrorist's baggage.
If that indeed is the change, then I'm even angrier than before, since that really means we're being played as fools.
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JosephP
May 11, 2010 10:41 PM
I know things are frequently more complicated than can be simply stated. Einstein said, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
But all these "Money Market Investor Funding Facility (MMIFF)" and "Section 13(3)" terms seem designed to make the eyes glaze over, while hiding the critical points from the layman's eyes.
I think I might have it exactly backwards---CDOs are in fact a traditional portion of the Fed's transactions, so therefore they would not be considered part of the "emergency" financial response and excluded from the audit.
But the CDOs are the heart and soul of what is wrong here. The mortgage companies made shitty loans, the banks bundled them into shitty CDOs, and then when they went bad the Fed bailed them out by loaning the banks good green money, accepting the shitty CDOs as collateral.
Someday the CDOs might improve and loose some of their stink. In that case the banks will repay the loans and get back their now-good investment. Otherwise, the Fed will figure out a way to get rid of them without the public getting wise---perhaps by sloughing them off on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.
Either way, the banks win and the taxpayer looses.
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DugFmJamul
May 11, 2010 11:26 PM
Wow, me and a 'Democratic-Socialist' have something in common...go figure?
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Geoff Johnson
May 12, 2010 12:08 AM in reply to DugFmJamul
If only there were more democratic socialists in American government--we might actually have a decent health care system by now, among other things.
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DugFmJamul
May 12, 2010 1:54 AM in reply to Geoff Johnson
Do you realize supporting any other form of government other than our republican form of government is 'SEDITION'?
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RocketEngineer
May 12, 2010 1:56 AM in reply to DugFmJamul
Do you realize that having the government support you while you simultaneously try to subvert it is treason?
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nova voter
May 12, 2010 7:11 AM in reply to DugFmJamul
i'm glad we agree. let's start by rounding up anyone with a confederate flag in their yard, on their truck, on their wife-beater, or on their trucker hat.
sound good to you? good. let's git 'er done.
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DugFmJamul
May 12, 2010 12:25 PM in reply to nova voter
No, let's start by NOT letting anyone near a black robe of Supreme Court Judge much less confirm one that professes seditious progressive ideas.
Oh let's make sure progressives are not elected to any governmental position where they hold power over American citizens.
Yep...that would be a good start!
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Geoff Johnson
May 12, 2010 2:00 PM in reply to DugFmJamul
The only way you can "make sure" that people who profess progressive ideas are not elected is by preventing them from running in the first place, presumably by passing some kind of law or arresting them all or something. Sounds a bit like a dictatorship to me, but no doubt a lot of folks on the right would go for it.
And check the constitution and the U.S. Code--there's nothing there that prevents one from being a Democratic Socialist, a communist, an anarchist, or even a Neo-Nazi. Americans are free to adopt any political perspective they choose.
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DugFmJamul
May 12, 2010 2:09 PM in reply to Geoff Johnson
True, but supporting a 'political perspective' that would change our 'republican form of government' without respecting Article V of our Constitution is 'SEDITION' against our Constitution, do you understand this concept of sedition?
For the record I do not support a dictatorship of any kind, I support our republican form of government.
Does that help?
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Geoff Johnson
May 12, 2010 2:25 PM in reply to DugFmJamul
Being a Democratic Socialist or a "progressive" does not mean one is advocating changing our form of government without using amendments. If you think it does then you have been drinking some serious Kool Aid.
You might note that Bernie Sanders is indeed a self-declared socialist (has been forever) and he has served in the United States Congress. Seeing as how he's helped get laws passed and all (some which he wrote), I'm guessing he has a pretty good understanding of the constitution (even Article V!)--probably much better than you in fact.
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DugFmJamul
May 12, 2010 3:33 PM in reply to Geoff Johnson
Now who is drinking who's Kool-Aid?
Of a Democratic-Socialist like Bernie Sanders or a Progressive like Barbra Boxer misreads the Constitution to introduce more socialism into our republican form of government, how do you explain all of the Democrats in the Senate voting not to discuss the unconstitutionally of Bill H.R. 3590, passing the unconstitutional Bill and then finally Obama signing the unconstitutional Bill into Law?
Twisting the meaning of the text of the Constitution to suite progressive dogma is how progressives undermine the Constitution and promote socialism...come on admit it, you'll feel better if you did!
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RocketEngineer
May 12, 2010 10:22 PM in reply to DugFmJamul
Hey DUNG-FROM-BUNGHOLE:
Twisting the meaning of the text of the Constitution to suite[sic] fascist dogma is how wing-nuts undermine the Constitution and promote National Socialism...come on admit it, you'll feel better if you did!
Or is it only your mother that makes you feel better?
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RocketEngineer
May 12, 2010 12:55 AM in reply to DugFmJamul
You only think you have something in common with him. You're actually more closely related to a pig.
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RocketEngineer
May 12, 2010 2:06 AM
Oh, and by the way DUNG-FROM-BUNGHOLE, in case you hadn't noticed, I'm perfectly happy to dump on anything you say, and your "promise" to not respond to me only makes me laugh at you more.
You are and always will be a pathetic, hypocritical, cowardly little racist nazi faggot. Go back to f**king your mother.
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Silence
May 12, 2010 7:25 AM
"I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared." - Jefferson
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Sir T
May 12, 2010 11:28 AM in reply to Silence
"Deficits don't matter" Reagan
"IT'S NOT MY FAAAAAULT" Bush
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Silence
May 14, 2010 10:47 AM in reply to Sir T
And, they still don't. So much for hope and change.
Obama is just another player.
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May 12, 2010 7:39 AM
Why no audit of the military budget, the leading cause of our so-called deficit crisis?
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Tosh
June 6, 2010 5:54 AM
Now we just need to form a Committee to keep track of all the "change" that has been "started."
Why is no one questioning the White House for standing shoulder to shoulder with Wall Street in opposition to the original scope of Audit in Bernie's Amendment?
Honest question. I'm looking at (for) the regular Obama can do no wrong lovers here.
Is there a progressive out there (besides me) that can admit this Administration is just a little owned by corporations? Is there a progressive out there that wonders if Obama has the slightest bit of integrity when it comes to looking out for the People?
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