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Back To The Future: Boehner's Recipe For Recovery Same As Bush's


Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN), Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), and Rep. John Boehner (R-OH)

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Using catchy slogans and scary rhetoric, the Republicans have done a masterful job of painting themselves as the party of austerity and fiscal discipline. "Where are the jobs?" "Runaway deficits." "Government takeover." After years of profligacy, they say, they've gotten religion, and can be trusted to run the show once again. But scratch lightly and, just below that veneer, you'll find that nothing has changed at all.

"I've admitted that Republicans made their fair share of mistakes when they had the majority in this institution," said House Minority Leader John Boehner at his weekly press conference yesterday morning. "But I think our members have learned their lessons."

The lesson, though, is that Republicans were right all along--tax cuts can cure all that ails the country--and that they just fell into a brief trap of allowing too much discretionary spending.

The fight over the stimulus, he said, "was all about more government spending, not more about allowing American families and small businesses to keep more of what they earn, because when it's all said and done they're the ones who are gonna have to get the economy going again," Boehner said, ignoring the fact that about one-third of the stimulus bill's cost came from tax cuts.

Another reporter asked Boehner if he worried the tax cuts he envisions will deepen deficits. Boehner took a turn on the Laffer curve.

"You equate the idea of lowering marginal tax rates with less revenue for the federal government," Boehner cautioned. "We've seen over the last 30 years that lower marginal tax rates have led to a growing economy, more employment, and more people paying taxes. And if you look at the revenue growth over those 30 years, you've got a prime example of what we've been talking about."

This is practically the reverse of the truth. In the years after the Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush tax cuts, economic growth and employment were significantly lower than they were after Bill Clinton's 1993 tax increases. According to Michael Ettlinger and John Irons of the Center for American Progress, "Over the seven-year periods after each legislative action, average annual growth was 3.9 percent following [Clinton's 1993 tax increase], 3.5 percent following [Reagan's 1981 tax cut], and 2.5 percent following [Bush's 2001 tax cut]."

But beyond the factual contradiction, Boehner appeared to be in denial about the real impact of the Bush tax cuts. Another reporter followed up: "Are you saying that the Bush tax cuts didn't effect the deficits that we're in now?"

Boehner halted for a moment, then shrugged: "The reductions in '01 and '03 were to respond to an economic problem. '01 was done before 9/11. '03 was done in response to what happened to the economy. But that's not what led to the budget deficit. It's not the marginal tax rates. If you look at the problem that we've got here, it's a spending problem, that has grown over the last five or six years. A real spending problem. "

Bush did use the 2001 recession to argue for tax cuts...but only after running for President on a platform of reducing taxes in response to Clinton's budget surpluses. Tax cuts either way. And as for the latter claim--"that's not what led to the budget deficit"--the numbers tell a much different story.

Take a look at this graph from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

The Bush tax cuts are in fact the single biggest contributor to the current deficit.

So what, if anything, would Republicans do differently if they got another bite at the apple? The short answer seems to be: very little.

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June 11, 2010 10:04 AM   

You guys drove this country into the ditch now you want the keys back HELL NO.

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June 11, 2010 10:59 AM    in reply to IowaKid

Indeed. As someone or another said...

HELL NO YOU CAN'T!

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June 11, 2010 3:01 PM    in reply to Davran

Hell no! They haven't learned their lesson!

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June 11, 2010 10:14 AM   

Thanks for teeing it up, Mr. Boehner. We'll gladly take your "Let's relive the Bush years" challenge. I hope that's your party's slogan for the coming elections. It should help expose who and what the tea partiers really are, too.

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June 11, 2010 12:23 PM    in reply to chimpale

Agreed, it would be nice if they do just that, but I would guess it will be up to their general election opponents to keep reminding the voters about these Republicans and their well-documented stamps all over Bushes rubbers...

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June 11, 2010 10:17 AM   

So Boehner is resurrect the "lowering taxes increases government revenue" meme? Wow, he really is a lousy politician. Even the Republican talking heads (e.g. Larry Kudlow) don't try to make that claim anymore. To be sure there are some who cling to this utterly fictional accounting but they are few and far between. Personally I would love to see Boehner run with this ball. Right into a brick wall.

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June 11, 2010 10:20 AM   

Boehner halted for a moment, then shrugged: "The reductions in '01 and '03 were to respond to an economic problem. '01 was done before 9/11. '03 was done in response to what happened to the economy.

Let's see, who let the terrorists in on 9/11 again? I keep forgetting whose watch that happened on.

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June 11, 2010 10:26 AM    in reply to Riesz Fischer

According to the Rethugs, that would be Clinton. Rewriting history for their benefit and all...

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June 11, 2010 1:30 PM    in reply to CyberDuckie

They send all the "History Books" down to Texas to get re-written.

Word has it they're already into the thousands of revamped pages of "the other guys did it"!

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June 11, 2010 4:20 PM    in reply to lapdogs

The difference is that Obama's tax cuts were for everyday Americans, not the rich. The Bush tax cuts, and those which Boehner proposes, are for the rich, and are on the backs of everyday Americans.

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June 11, 2010 1:04 PM    in reply to Riesz Fischer

And who turned the surplus into a deficit?

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June 12, 2010 12:40 AM    in reply to jeffgee

Jimmy Carter and the CRA. You KNOW how the right loves to blame Carter for everything.

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June 11, 2010 1:11 PM    in reply to Riesz Fischer

Jeeze, doncha know? It was Clinton and Gore. You libtards cant remember anything.
You betchya.

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June 11, 2010 2:10 PM    in reply to Riesz Fischer

Just remember... "There were no terrorist attacks on America under President Bush." -Mayor of 9/11 Rudy

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June 11, 2010 10:23 AM   

Second verse, same as the first.

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June 11, 2010 11:01 AM    in reply to It's Pat

Just last night, I was reminded of just how bad it had gotten.

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June 11, 2010 11:13 AM    in reply to It's Pat

A little bit louder and a little bit worse.

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June 11, 2010 10:32 AM   

"I've admitted that Republicans made their fair share of mistakes when they had the majority in this institution," said House Minority Leader John Boehner at his weekly press conference yesterday morning. "But I think our members have learned their lessons."

Throughout our history Rethuglicans have never ever done anything right, which kind of disproves that they are capable of learning any lessons.

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June 11, 2010 11:20 AM    in reply to tiowally

Well, I have to give them credit for freeing the slaves, but it's been pretty much downhill since Lincoln was assassinated.

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June 11, 2010 2:49 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

What about Teddy Roosevelt and the Trustbusters?

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June 11, 2010 2:50 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

As much as I admire Lincoln, I find his the quality and trajectory of his morality somewhat suspect. To wit:

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union....

When I read those words, I am reminded that the Union was created of, by, and for white men.

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June 11, 2010 5:16 PM    in reply to Schmed

The Emancipation Proclamation was signed and in a cubbyhole of his desk waiting for a victory at the time he wrote that letter to Horace Greeley's New York Tribune. With this letter, Lincoln was laying the P.R. groundwork for his legal argument that the Emancipation Proclamation (or, more precisely, the Preliminary Emancipation Proclamation) was a completely Constitutional exercise of the Presidential war power. It's the same reason both the Preliminary and Final Proclamations are written in such dry, legalistic form rather than the kind of brilliant, poetic inspirational rhetoric for which he's justly famous.

It was a serious legal question. Other than the presidential war power, which encompassed the power to expropriate property of the enemy in furtherance of the war effort, there was no Constitutional way to free the slaves other than a Constitutional amendment. If Congress had tried to simply pass a law abolishing slavery it (in one of the many ugly ironies slavery built into the Constitution) would have violated the Fifth Amendment ban on deprivation of property without Due Process and just compensation. Additionally, uncompensated emancipation by act of Congress would likely have run afoul of the prohibition on bills of attainder.

There were slave states (Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware) still in the union and the Supreme Court was still the same one that had passed the Dred Scott decision. It wasn't a moot point.

A Constitutional amendment was also out of the question. The Union position was that the Southern states hadn't actually seceded because the Union could only be dissolved by a majority of the states (presumably the same 2/3 majority it would take to pass an amendement). Instead, they were simply in a state of rebellion which the Constitution specifically empowered the federal government to suppress. Without the votes of the states in rebellion, they couldn't get the 2/3 necessary to pass it (and, of course, couldn't have gotten those votes anyway.)

So basically, Lincoln had to argue, and did argue, that the Confederacy's slaves were crucial to the enemy war effort. They grew the food that fed the soldiers and the cotton that clothed them and paid for European war material. They built fortifications and performed rear area work for the army. And every slave working in a field theoretically freed a white man to fight in the army. As property used in furtherance of the enemy war effort, slaves could be seized by the federal government without compensation and, once seized, the government could do with them whatever it deemed best in furtherance of its own war effort.

Lincoln's argument to Greeley was an advance explanation to the nation of what he was about to do. It was particularly addressed to Northern "War Democrats," (Democrats who supported the war but either supported or were indifferent to slavery) and to the Border States, which he had to keep in the Union and pacified at all costs.

But then, I suppose I'm just a shameless Lincoln apologist. A Lincbot who can see no wrong in what my Dear Leader does and says.

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June 11, 2010 6:01 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

I am kind of a Lincbot too. I have never had any doubt that he struggled with his own shitty ideas about slavery. But the motherfucker transcended them all, even if it was somewhat unwillingly.

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June 12, 2010 6:12 AM    in reply to weezie.jefferson

Rather simple, really. The republicans have always been about free contract.

Slavery doesn't fit the bill. By some stretch it is still a contract, but not a free one.

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June 11, 2010 1:13 PM    in reply to tiowally

Governance is not a Rethug skill.

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June 11, 2010 10:42 AM   

Chuck Todd to Nancy Pelosi: "When are you going to stop blaming Bush?"

John Boehner: "We're going to do the same things Bush did when we're back in power."

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June 11, 2010 11:18 AM    in reply to commie atheist

I know, right? Just at the very minute when the trained seals in the MSM are ready to really bear down on the "when, oh when, will those feckless Democrats stop blaming Bush?" line, the Orange Boner hands the Democrats the key that opens that door.

It's almost like he's so terrified by the prospect of the crazy people he runs with taking over that he's subconsciously trying to undermine their chances.

Now if only the Democrats could move past their evident belief that the way to respond to precious gift like this is to have some nameless DNC communications staffer zing off a single snarky press release . . . This and the "I am Big Oil's Bitch" performance yesterday need to be front and center in the talking points and commercials for the next five months.

"Well, just the other day, we had John Boehner, the man the Republicans want to be the next Speaker of the House, saying that what we need now are more of the same Bush era policies that created this recession and these enormous deficits."


"Well, just the other day, we had John Boehner, the man the Republicans want to be the next Speaker of the House, saying that the taxpayers needed to pick up part of the cost of BP's oil spill."

"Call Representative Beckslave now and tell him to just say no to the Republican BP Bailout!"

We need to hear this over and over and over again in every contested state and district, not just today or on the next round of Sunday shows.

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June 11, 2010 12:26 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

When do we stop blaming Bush? When the problems he created are solved.

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June 11, 2010 11:26 AM    in reply to commie atheist

"I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008

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June 11, 2010 1:34 PM    in reply to ooo ooo

Says it all, doesn't it?

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June 11, 2010 10:54 AM   

This is what happens when your ideals trump your common sense.

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June 11, 2010 11:37 AM    in reply to LiberalRedneck

Or simply when you really have no ideas. Why to I get the same old sick feeling Republicans believe that when up from the ground comes a bublin' crude is going to turn out to be a good thing like it did for the Clampett's? Welcome to the BP Texas-tea Party.

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June 11, 2010 11:11 AM   

The same old tired bullshit.

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June 11, 2010 11:26 AM   

Well, technically, he's right...Bush Tax cuts did not exactly produce the deficits that we are experincing, but they did bridge the span between our expectations of responsible fiscal restraint and...well, for lack of a better description of the package...the Republicans nose dive to a financially failed state.
We have to remember, tax cuts don't produce deficits, over-spending does, and that is something the Republicans just can't bring themselves to admit...they were and still are worse than Tax and spend liberals.
The Republican party is a Tax-cut and Spend...and to be honest, we can't call them conservatives anymore because they have fiscally abandoned that platform, and we can't call them social conservatives because they have morally abandoned that platform as well.
What to call them now?
Sorry for not sharing in your collective angst, but I'm beginning to see them in a whole new light...the Repulican party is no longer relevant to the direction we, the people of the United States are heading towards.
Ah, there we go, for me, The only thing left to call them is...well...cold war artifacts from the twentieth century who weren't very good at what they trumpeted themselves as being...good at governance.


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June 11, 2010 1:23 PM    in reply to sheerahkahn

tax cuts don't produce deficits, over-spending does

Um, no. That statement is no more true than saying "spending doesn't produce deficits, under taxation does".

There are two sides to the deficit equation, and neither one is more of a cause than the other. We choose to have the government spend X amount, and to have the government collect Y amount. If we decide that X is the amount we need to spend, then we need to ensure that Y is as close to X as possible (leaving aside the question of deficit spending being a necessary evil at times).

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June 11, 2010 2:01 PM    in reply to eric0531

/facepalm
Come on...really?
look, you say I'm wrong, and then you explain that I'm right in a round about way...it's okay to agree with me.
I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat...I won't gloat.
All I want from my government is competency and what is right for the common good, and I suspect, without proof, that we all want that as well.

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June 11, 2010 2:12 PM    in reply to sheerahkahn

Go back and look at the OMB's 2005 deficit projections for 2010. They predicted pretty much exactly the deficit we've got now.

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June 11, 2010 11:31 AM   

They may be murderous lying corporate bigoted scum, but they are going to win, and they WILL be back in power. They have the killer instinct, while Democrats, have, well....what?

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June 11, 2010 12:27 PM    in reply to NuttyProf

Hey, what do you mean by that! The Dems have..well...let me see...well.. they can talk the talk and get Americans all pumped up, and they ... ah, well...

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June 11, 2010 12:56 PM    in reply to NuttyProf

The Democrats are just as bad. The difference is, for the most part, that the Democrats are slightly less corrupt. Just slightly.

I'm all for Kucinich for President

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June 11, 2010 1:51 PM    in reply to davewtf

Hah, keep dreaming.

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June 11, 2010 11:39 AM   

OH I do hope Boehner and the Republicans continue to push this...because along with the tea-baggers......the Democrats should see smooth sailing ahead!!

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June 11, 2010 11:53 AM   

A perfect demonstration tha Reprbates do not feel the Bush Presidency was a FAIL.

He did exactly what the Reprobates wanted to do, they controlled Congress and waged their successful war on Democracy and the people.

They destroyed the democratic enclave of New Oleans and plunged the "have-nots" into historical debt.

A job well done.

Let's do it again!

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June 11, 2010 11:56 AM   

What's suprising about this? They are ideologues. They believe that if they yell it loud enough and often enough and believe it fervently enough, reality will eventually start behaving the way they want it to. Facts and evidence matter nothing to them.

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June 11, 2010 11:57 AM   

Can we just keep using what the Orange One says in political ads over and over again?

"If you vote for the GOP, you'll get back to the future Bush policies, AND you'll have to pay for BP's oil spill."

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June 11, 2010 12:02 PM   

Wealthy Americans have not been delivering their fair share of prosperity to the impoverished masses in this country. Now is not the time to build on the devastating tax policy that has continued from the Bush regime into Obama's.

http://www.facebook.com/campaigncorner

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June 11, 2010 1:54 PM    in reply to Jerry

Which people are you a voice for?

Certainly not me.

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June 11, 2010 12:22 PM   

EXCELLENT ARTICLE Brian.

You are turning a very mean phrase these days.

(Sorry, sometimes I can't shut that rhyming thing off.)

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June 11, 2010 12:23 PM   

What a photo. Pence, Cantor and Boehner — add Palin and you have the perfect template for Mount Dumbmore.

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June 11, 2010 2:13 PM    in reply to Stratdude

"What, Mt. Rushmore isn't a natural feature?" -My Fellow Americans

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June 11, 2010 12:31 PM   

If there's any Democratic strategists out there reading this, take this one message and hammer it home again and again and again and again and again etc etc etc. Do you want a return to the Bush era? Then vote Republican. Do you want to go forward? Then vote Democratic. That should be the answer to every question, query, editorial board, debate, news appearance, press release etc etc etc. Ignore everything else.

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June 11, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to Hank

Agreed.

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June 11, 2010 12:32 PM   

A quick look back to see one of the Senior GOP legislators - Orrin Hatch on spending during the Bush Years: It was standard practice not to pay for things.


http://www.docudharma.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=30DAE5A016847BD2CE1A92C5ED065A93?diaryId=18187

I am begging the GOP to run on this PLAN!!!!! Maybe the words will even wake up the TP'ers that repeating history will not solve the problems. Then watch the GOP demand to fund unwanted Defense Spending and think about who / what they really want to vote for. As a long detailed piece was released about who are the members of the TP, how can they believe that lowering taxes will actually help? I now expect someone to respond with the FAIR tax meme, which is not FAIR to anyone but the rich!

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June 11, 2010 12:35 PM   

Love the logic. Government:Family::Deficit:Credit Card

A government should budget just like a family does. So if you're in debt, just make the minimum payments. Problem solved.

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June 11, 2010 12:44 PM   

I'll give him one thing: I really like his tie.

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June 11, 2010 12:51 PM   

Boener was a little more orange in those days. I guess he's reminiscing about the spray-on tans of days gone by.

And, admitting that you made serious mistakes, then saying that you want to go back to those policies, is a pretty damn bad idea. That may be why boener & mcconell are just as popular as oil spills.

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June 11, 2010 1:05 PM   

Politicians say
less taxes will solve everything
and the band played on

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June 11, 2010 1:33 PM   

Dat Boehner! Whadda yutz! Whadda ultra-maroon! His brain is fully marinated!

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June 11, 2010 2:32 PM   

Let me get this straight, the article blasts Boehner for flaming the stimulus bill because "a third of the stimulus came in the form of tax cuts", which would mean that Obama pushed through about $260 billion in tax cuts. Boehner says he's for tax cuts. You guys hammer Boehner for tax cuts, but you claim that Obama got us out of the ditch by his actions, even though he didn't raise income taxes and pushed through a $260 billion tax cut? Liberals are hysterical.

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June 11, 2010 4:21 PM    in reply to teapartier

The difference is that Obama's tax cuts were for everyday Americans, not the rich. The Bush tax cuts, and those which Boehner proposes, are for the rich, and are on the backs of everyday Americans.

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June 11, 2010 5:19 PM    in reply to teapartier

Yeah, it's all really simple when you're simple minded and anything complex is hilarious.

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June 11, 2010 5:43 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

LOL @NCSteve. So true.

Ah the bliss of stupidity.

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June 11, 2010 11:00 PM    in reply to teapartier

Are you deliberately being disingenuous or are you simply an ignorant moron?

Oh, nevermind. You're just another Tali-sacker

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June 11, 2010 4:42 PM   

Maybe tax cuts are the solution to the oil spill in the Gulf. Hey, you never know with these guys!

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June 11, 2010 7:44 PM   

Boehner's also ignoring the pure truth shown here - http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/d/r/drkwanda/2010/04/youve-posted-several-stories-a.php

Yes, spending is up today because of Bush/GOP spending profligacy and the stimulus. But it revenues are also way way down from where they have historically been and this, as the CAP graph shows, is attributable to an equal combination of the down turn and the tax cuts.

So roughly speaking, next time someone complains about Democrat spending you can answer that once you take away the stimulus (which you can after next year) the deficits of this country are due 1/3 to unfunded spending commitments made by the GOP under Bush and the GOP Congress, due 1/3 to Bush tax cuts, and due 1/3 to the structural impact of a long term slowdown in the economy.

So Dems can say, - sorry, but 'not it!'

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June 12, 2010 2:57 AM   

Republicans have carved their policies in stone tablets. It would be unrealistic to expect denialists and zealots to rethink their beliefs even in the face of facts. That is the nature of faith.

That is why we cannot survive another republican administration. We just do not have enough margin for that much error.

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June 12, 2010 10:26 AM   

If you look at the problem that we've got here, it's a spending problem, that has grown over the last five or six years. A real spending problem. "


No matter how many times it's explained to them, liberals will always refer to tax cuts as spending.

The only things that really stimulate an economy during peacetime are tax cuts.

People are always motivated by some percieved self-interest.

The best way to help out your neighbor is to not live off your neighbor.

In everything EXCEPT GOVERNMENT, the people paying the bills call the shots.

Socialists have a core belief that it's OK to take from one person, even by force if necessary, in order to give to another person.

Government-administered charities are always funded by force and coercion.

Powerful people usually got that way because they made being powerful their priority, not YOUR WELL-BEING.

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June 12, 2010 1:21 PM    in reply to bill d berger

You are a critical thinking fail. Let me break this down to you so you can understand it. If you cut taxes, which is a source of revenue for the federal government, and you don't offset that loss of revenue with cuts to an existing service or agency, in essence it is spending. It's like lowering the your monthly payment to the cable bill, but not reducing the services that you get from something like you cell phone provider or the cable company.

As for socialism using force to take money from people, look at the Netherlands. I really don't see the police state over there, but all you idiots on the right like to bash the Europeans for one thing or another.

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June 15, 2010 4:29 PM    in reply to Hobbes83

Yeah, look at Greece and realize we could well be next.

But what does Moody know, eh?

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June 15, 2010 5:21 PM    in reply to bill d berger

Nice red herring. And the sad part is that Moody's isn't that fool-proof because of all the junk bonds that they rated which in part led to the financial crisis. Thanks for the ammo.

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June 13, 2010 2:19 PM    in reply to bill d berger

Bill, as with all things you as a Conservative try to re-write reality.

Let me break down by line the mistakes in your theories.

The only things that really stimulate an economy during peacetime are tax cuts. Well Clinton raised taxes and the economy grew 3.9 percent which was higher than under both Reagan and GWs tax cuts.

People are always motivated by some percieved self-interest.
Really, so what is the perceived self-interest of Policemen, Firemen, Soldiers, etc..etc..etc... Second line and your theories already look like swiss cheese.

The best way to help out your neighbor is to not live off your neighbor. Well this would be awesome if most people in America did not receive some kind of help from Federal, State, or local government at some time in their life but reality is 75% of Americans will receive that help at some point and time.

In everything EXCEPT GOVERNMENT, the people paying the bills call the shots. Again, I hate to contradict your idea of what reality is but the People of the United States elected the federal government and they are doing exactly what they told us they would do when we elected them. Get over it, elections do have consequences and this is part of it. You may not like it but it is a simple fact. They are doing exactly what the people of the United States elected them to do. Well except the Republicans who are just showing up for a paycheck and soundbites.

Socialists have a core belief that it's OK to take from one person, even by force if necessary, in order to give to another person. This one I don't totally disagree with but I have no idea why you put it on this response because it has nothing to do with the United States government. We don't have a Socialist government we have a Democratic one. The rich have lived off the wealth and resources of the people of the United States for long enough and those voting Americans finally voted to take some of it back. Thats Democracy not Socialism.

Government-administered charities are always funded by force and coercion. Nobody is forced to take Social Security or Welfare or anything else from the government. Yes, some of the people from whom the money may come may not like it but they will get over it. That is how democracy works. I am forced to pay taxes for military spending that I don't agree with so that makes us even. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it force or coercion. It makes it democracy where the majority voted in gets to make the rules. Unfortunately for you, right now you are in the minority so you don't like the way things are. That does not make it forced or coerced.

Powerful people usually got that way because they made being powerful their priority, not YOUR WELL-BEING. Again this is not something I totally disagree with you on. Of course as a Conservative you know exactly what this is about because I could not point out one Republican who has not turned to this as his mantra for Governance after the Teddy Roosevelt.

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June 13, 2010 2:38 PM    in reply to bill d berger

Starting with Reagan in 1980, the Republican Party embraced and implemented "supply-side" economics. The central theory of supply-side economics was politically an easy sell: if the government cuts tax rates – especially on the wealthy – the wealthy will feel more inclined to earn more money. This will encourage the wealthy to make even more money. This will lead to higher tax revenue, which will more than offset the loss of revenue from the initial tax cuts. The central problem is no matter how you look at the results, they didn’t work as advertised. Reagan started the implementation in 1981, cutting upper-income taxes from roughly 70% to 50%. But a funny thing happened. Tax revenues were stagnant for 4 years from 1981 to 1984. For the years 1981-1984, revenues from individual taxpayers were (in billions) $285, $297, $288 and $298, respectively. While the double-dip recession is partially responsible for the first two years, the economy came out of the recession November 1982. Yet for two more years, the rich didn’t feel unencumbered enough to increase their work efforts. At the same time, discretionary spending increased from $307 billion to $379 billion – an increase of 29%. This discrepancy between revenues and receipts then continued for the rest of Reagan’s presidency. There are three problems with Reagan’s overall economic policy. The first is the massive amount of debt he incurred for economic growth. The second was Reagan did not implement the other side of conservative fiscal policy – cutting spending. The third problem was the US did not achieve a super-human rate of national product growth. The median quarterly change in GDP during Reagan’s tenure was 3.85%. This is a good rate of growth. But the cost was substantial because to achieve this growth Reagan used debt which the US has not paid off.
Read here what Paul Krugman--Nobel Prize winning economist and author and co-author of some 35 books and hundreds of academic articles--has to say on the subject:
"It should go without saying that the supply-side idea--which is that tax cuts have such a positive effect on the economy that one need not worry about paying for them with spending cuts--does not persist because of any actual evidence in its favor. If you want, any nonpartisan economist can explain to you at length what really happened during the Reagan years, and why you can't seriously claim his record as an advertisement for supply-side policies. But surely it is enough to look at the extraordinary recent record of the supply-siders as economic forecasters. In 1993, after the Clinton administration had pushed through an increase in taxes on upper-income families, the very same people who have persuaded Dole to run on a tax-cut platform were very sure about what would happen. Newt Gingrich confidently predicted a severe recession. Articles in Forbes magazine urged readers to get out of the stock market to avoid the inevitable crash. The Wall Street Journal editorial page had no doubts that the tax increase would sharply increase the deficit instead of reducing it. Well here we are, three years later: The economy has created 10 million new jobs, the market is up by 1500 points, and the deficit has been cut in half. I'm not saying that Clinton's policies led to that result--they account for only part of the good news about the deficit, and hardly any of the rest. But the point is that the supply-siders were absolutely sure that his policies would produce disaster--and indeed, if their doctrine had any truth to it, they would have."

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June 15, 2010 9:54 PM    in reply to larsvanness

Larsvanna, I see where you went wrong, you insanely quote the problem, Paul Krugman, not the solution, Milton Freidman. Here's an interview on topic, you'll see what I mean ...

Milton Friedman, perhaps the most influential economist of the last half century, believes that when Bill Clinton gave his own most recent State of the Union Address, the Teleprompter wasn't the only illusion the speech involved.

ROBINSON Milton Friedman, we are in the sixth year of the Clinton Administration, the nation is at peace, the economy is booming, the federal government has gone from a budget deficit of 290 billion dollars in 1992, the year Bill Clinton was elected, to a surplus of at least 76 billion dollars for this year. Don't you want to give Bill Clinton an A?

FRIEDMAN (laughs) No, I want to give the economy an A.

ROBINSON Give the economy an A. How much credit does he deserve?

FRIEDMAN Well, there's only one way in which I believe he deserves some credit. Because you have a Democrat in the White House and Republicans control the Congress, it's hard to get any laws passed, and that's been a great advantage. The source of our prosperity in my opinion dates back to Mr. Reagan's reductions in tax rates...

ROBINSON 1982.

FRIEDMAN ...1982, and deregulation during the Reagan Administration, also go down to the 1986 Tax Act which eliminated a lot of interventions, unfortunately which have been creeping back in. And that unleashed a private enterprise boom which we're still benefiting from.

ROBINSON We're not in the sixth year of the Clinton expansion, we're in the seventeenth year of the Reagan boom.

FRIEDMAN Exactly. The Reagan— I won't call it a boom, because it really hasn't been a boom, it's been a very good, healthy expansion.

ROBINSON Steady, sustainable...

FRIEDMAN It's a boom in the stock market, but so far as the economy is concerned the average rate of growth is not out of line with what it's been in the past many times.

ROBINSON It's in line with historical standards.

FRIEDMAN The long-term rate of growth since the Civil War, for example, is in the order of about three to four percent a year, of which one percent is population growth, one-and-a-half to two percent per capita growth, and we're in about that same range. But it's been a notable period for other things. It's been a notable period because we've had this expansion at the same time that inflation has been brought down and relatively stable, and for that the credit belongs to the Federal Reserve under the leadership of Alan Greenspan. I think Alan Greenspan deserves more credit for that than anything else.

ROBINSON More credit than he's being given, or more credit than Bill Clinton's being given.

FRIEDMAN No, no— oh, Bill Clinton deserves no credit for that. That's entirely a result of the Fed and its behavior. The Fed has done a lot of bad things in the past, so I'm delighted to be able to give it credit for one good thing, and it's done very well under Alan Greenspan.

ROBINSON Does the so-to-speak extra-constitutionality of the Fed disturb you?

FRIEDMAN Yes. I have always been in favor of abolishing the Fed, primarily from a political point of view.

I believe that the inflation that we had in the '70s was primarily the responsibility of the Fed. I believe that the Great Depression of the '30s was primarily the responsibility of the Fed. So I'm not... it has in the past done a great deal of harm, but as it happens in this last eight years or so it's been very good and has brought about...

ROBINSON Just the last eight years, or would you give high marks to Volcker as well, Greenspan's predecessor?

FRIEDMAN That's an interesting case, because you have to give the credit there really to Reagan. There's no other President who would have stood by while the Fed followed the policy it did. If you remember— you don't remember that period but if you go back...

ROBINSON I do actually, I had just started at the White House in those days...

FRIEDMAN ...if you go back to that period, stopping the inflation that was raging which reached double-digit levels at the end of the '70s and early '80s required stepping on the brakes hard and produced a recession. And if you remember, Reagan's popular ranking went way down in...

ROBINSON Down into the thirties.

FRIEDMAN ...thirties, right. No other President would have stood by and said to the Fed, keep doing what you're doing, you're doing the right thing. But Reagan did do that. And that's what enabled Volcker to do what Volcker did.

ROBINSON Back to the present to find out what Milton Friedman thinks of President Clinton's legislative goals for the rest of his term.


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June 15, 2010 10:16 PM    in reply to bill d berger

Paul Samuleson on Milton Friedman:
"He was a libertarian to the point of nuttiness."

Economist Paul Samuelson, a big government man from way back--in an edition of his best-selling college textbook Economics, he argued that "the remarkable fact is not how much government does to control economic activity, but how much it does not do"-- Samuelson, gave an interview not long ago. The current crisis, he claimed, validates his own economic views--and invalidates those of his longtime rival, the late free-market economist Milton Friedman.

"Today we see how utterly mistaken was the Milton Friedman notion that a market system can regulate itself," Samuelson said. " ... Everyone understands now, on the contrary, that there can be no solution without government. The Keynesian idea is once again accepted that fiscal policy and deficit spending has a major role to play in guiding a market economy. I wish Friedman were still alive so he could witness how his extremism led to the defeat of his own ideas."

An old man gloating that he has outlived an antagonist: If that were all there were to it, we could wish Samuelson well for the rest of his time here below and let the matter drop.

But Samuelson and Friedman represent two of the most influential economists in the history of the discipline. Samuelson won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 1970; Friedman in 1976. Samuelson achieved wide influence through Economics, still a popular textbook decades after he introduced it; Friedman through books such as Capitalism and Freedom, his column for Newsweek and his PBS television series, Free to Choose.

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June 12, 2010 5:08 PM   

It was a serious legal question. Other than the presidential war power, which encompassed the power to expropriate property of the enemy in furtherance of the war effort, there was no Constitutional way to free the slaves other than a Constitutional amendment. If Congress had tried to simply pass a law abolishing slavery it (in one of the many ugly ironies slavery built into the Constitution) would have violated the Fifth Amendment ban on deprivation of property without Due Process and just compensation. Additionally, uncompensated emancipation by act of Congress would likely have run afoul of the prohibition on bills of attainder.

There were slave states (Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware) still in the union and the Supreme Court was still the same one that had passed the Dred Scott decision. It wasn't a moot point.

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June 13, 2010 8:20 AM   

Any politician that can stand up and say lets go back to what got us here, might want to review why he was elected.

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June 14, 2010 5:28 AM   

I am convinced the tanning machine jelled his brain. It is congealed, wobbly and dribbled around like a water filled basketball.

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July 10, 2010 12:00 AM   

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