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Idaho GOP Approves Far-Right Platform: Repeal 17th Amendment, Buy Gold And Silver


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Idaho Republicans held their convention over the past weekend, approving a platform containing some mighty interesting parts of the Tea Party platform -- from state nullification of federal laws, to protecting the institution of marriage from transgendered people, to to a Glenn-Beckesque embrace of gold and silver money.

State Rep. Marv Hagedorn (R) told the Associated Press that the push to go further right was a product of disgust with the current status quo from the Obama administration. "It does reflect a change," said Hagedorn. "But it's not a change in our party, it's a change in the White House."

The convention's platform calls for a radical overhaul of the federal government. One proposal is a Tea Party favorite, calling for the repeal the 17th Amendment, which provides for the direct election of Senators instead of the original system of them being selected by state legislatures. The platform also calls for the state legislature and governor to "nullify any and all existing and future unconstitutional Federal mandates and laws, funded or unfunded, that infringe on Idaho's Tenth Amendment sovereignty." In addition, the GOP calls for the state of Idaho to take back federally controlled lands.

Then there is the hard-money plank, which might have come right out of a Goldline ad on talk radio: "We believe Idahoans need to protect their savings from the ravages of inflation, which is hidden taxation, and encourage citizens to participate in a systematic acquisition of precious metals which represent real value as opposed to paper currencies."

One resolution went even further: "Let free Idahoans pay taxes, and other fees due to the State, County and City in silver and or gold in any form. Payments to City, County, or State employees requested to be paid in silver and or gold, Will be complied with."

We asked the state GOP for comment on this one: How would such a system work? How would the state evaluate the proper values of gold and silver in collecting payments? And since governments collect taxes and fees in order to spend those revenues on needed goods and services, how would the state find people who accept gold and silver, instead of the universally accepted U.S. dollar? Would the state simply sell the excess gold and silver, in order to pay for services with dollars? They have not responded to our request for comment.

The platform also called for marriage to be limited to a "naturally born" man and woman, going the extra mile beyond conventional gay marriage bans and making sure to exclude transgendered folks, as well.

That said, there are some places that the state GOP wouldn't go -- they rejected a call for the state to establish its own independent volunteer militia, separate from federal control. The reason: It would cost too much.

(Platform and resolution documents provided to TPMDC by Dustin Hurst of Idaho Reporter.)

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June 29, 2010 11:07 AM   

Idaho can nullify all the federal laws they want as soon as they pay back the $1200 each per year (data from 2005) that the EVIL FEDS have been subsidizing their redneck asses with for the last few decades.

Re the gold thing: I'm surprised they haven't just gone ahead and started printing "New Confederate States of America" paper money. It could have a picture of Raygun on the front and a selection of Faux News commentators on the reverse... :)

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June 29, 2010 11:17 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Well, it's a total dilemma, isn't it? They'd like to, but Confederate money was the archetype of the dreaded Fiat Currency that so tortures their imaginations.

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June 29, 2010 10:02 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

I wish these crazy wingnut teabagging states would just go ahead and secede. It always amuses me that the Red states are the ones that take more than they pay into the federal funds. Idaho receives $1.21 for every dollar they pay in. I'm sure California would love to have the rest of their dollar back (.78 for every 1.00). It's going to be funny because this civil war will be civil, we won't fight you, just go ahead and leave. By all means, please secede. I just wish we could get these fruitcakes a hot tube time machine so they could go back to the 18th century where they belong. They want to take the country back, waaay back!

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June 29, 2010 12:18 PM    in reply to Matt Jones

Maybe we should just pay them in metal, like, say, iron?

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June 29, 2010 12:43 PM    in reply to heraldsquare

Or lead.

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June 29, 2010 3:54 PM    in reply to hunter

Or aluminum cans.

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June 29, 2010 10:25 PM    in reply to Matt Jones

I'd agree with that, plus one more caveat: provided they return all stolen native lands to the tribes from which they were taken.

If all else fails, maybe they could go back to Europe, just as they want "all them Negroes" to go back to Africa.

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June 29, 2010 11:11 AM   

So everyone born via c-section can't get married?

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June 29, 2010 12:56 PM    in reply to phil_s_stein

Good one! I've had three kids by c-section - first by emergency. There was absolutely nothing natural about the last two.

What petty fools. I mean really. Calling out transgenders? These people are obsessed with sex!!!

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June 29, 2010 2:25 PM    in reply to ShawnATL

Their powers of projection would put a Cineplex to shame.

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June 29, 2010 1:34 PM    in reply to phil_s_stein

And if you were conceived through in vitro fertilization or fertility treatments -- sorry, no marriage for you!

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June 29, 2010 9:46 PM    in reply to phil_s_stein

MACBETH: ... Let fall thy blade on vulnerable crests; I bear a charmed life, which must not yield to one of woman born.

MACDUFF: Despair thy charm, and let the angel whom thou still hast served tell thee, Macduff was from his mother's womb untimely ripp'd.

Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 8.

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June 29, 2010 11:12 PM    in reply to Sir T

I was looking for that quote.

"Lay on, MacDuff. And cursed be he who first cries, "Enough,"

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June 29, 2010 11:10 PM    in reply to phil_s_stein

You beat me to it. Does it also apply to IVF kids?

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June 29, 2010 11:25 AM   

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***** Get out of 1812! *****

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June 29, 2010 11:29 AM   

"it's a change in the White House."

Yeah, a black dude is running it, so the white-angry-and-uneducated crowd's fear of losing majority status was kicked into high gear. This was, after all, intended to be a "white people country," and while they "tolerate" minorities, they never thought in a million years that they'd suddenly, in a couple decades, be looking at a country in which they are one.

I'm not even going to apologize for playing the race card here or anymore, because it's goddamn fucking true. Look at how the TX board of education reacted to the youth voting in droves for Obama and then extrapolate to what went through these racist fucktards' heads when 90%+/- of the minority vote went to "That One." Yeah. "Oh shit...if those studies are correct and we're not going to be the majority in a couple decades, does that mean whitey's reign is over completely and permanently? We better take our country back! we own this shit...not you fcukers!"

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June 29, 2010 2:27 PM    in reply to Sniffit

Lucky they're so stupid. They've noticed the trend far too late to do anything about it except whine and fantasize.

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June 29, 2010 5:14 PM    in reply to Sniffit

Idaho is a Right to Work State, so many waitresses' wages are only 3 dollars an hour. The diners have to make up the difference in tips to bring them up to minimum wage...

So... it's not just blacks... it's also poorer white folk who aren't slave ... I mean business... owners.

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June 29, 2010 12:04 PM   

It borders Washington

Whatever pollutant, fungus or bacterium that caused the brain mutations in Washington native Glenn Beck must've attacked the brains of nearby residents.

A cousin of mine moved to Iduhho several years ago and he's gone so far right that he probably thinks Beck is too progressive.

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June 29, 2010 5:28 PM    in reply to draftedin68

Is it just me or does even their party logo look vaguely Naz... no, I won't invoke Goodwin's law here.

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July 1, 2010 10:22 AM    in reply to CityGuy

Godwin

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June 29, 2010 12:14 PM   

Any other Amendments they're interested in repealing...like 13-15 for example? How about 18? And definitely 16 has to go. 22 should apply only to Democratic presidents.

So much work to do...

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June 29, 2010 3:01 PM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Repealing the 17th Amendment? Hmm.. Why do I get the feeling that 66 Senators might be a little hesitant to voluntarily vote themselves out of a job.

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July 3, 2010 3:54 PM    in reply to tinsk

i simply don't understand the appeal of this idea to tea partiers. they're so up in arms about tyranny and fascism and "czars" and this and that so they think the solution to all of these hysterical fears about rampant federal governmental abuse is to make the country LESS democratic? ok....whatever you say. i think they just know that the demographics of this country are turning against them and the less democratic things are, the better. plus, i think they miss the good old authoritarian days of the House of Lords.

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June 29, 2010 12:29 PM   

I moved to Idaho a few years ago and one of the 1st things I noticed was that everyone was related.

Apparently, the constant isolation from the rest of the world has caused way too many interfamily marriages over the years...

If the voting requirements many of them espouse ever came into fruition, many of them would find they themselves would be unable to vote... IMHO

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June 29, 2010 12:59 PM    in reply to johnnydoughey

Also - there are lot of Mormons there, I understand. I guess those who escaped from Utah - 'cause it's too "fast".

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June 29, 2010 6:18 PM    in reply to ShawnATL

I spent an unpleasant year in Idaho. The Mormons were the best people there. They may be conservative, but they don't resemble the rednecks who seem to form the majority of Idaho's population. Unfortunately, every average Idahoan I met expressed distrust if not contempt for the Mormons.

The "individual rights" the rednecks want to preserve are not the basic rights of the Founding Fathers. They just want to be able to behave belligerently toward anyone they dislike, shoot anything anytime anywhere, and freely say the word "nigger." The police forces are rife with this type.

Beautiful scenery, though.

Idaho's basic problem is economic: it doesn't produce enough raw materials and manufactured goods to bring new dollars into the state. It's overwhelmingly a service economy which sells mostly to its own population, thus churning the same dollars.

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June 30, 2010 11:45 PM    in reply to Archie Titus

The right wing lunacy that has stormed into this state is funded and back primarily by Mormons, especially here in Eastern Idaho. They own the attorney general, one senator, one represenative, the superintendant of public instruction, and a multitude of the buffoons that make up our legislature and senate. The state has become one big insane assylum. Our state legislature isn't fit to raise chickens much less be picking our senators for us, and the biggest problem up here isn't economic, it's education. The mormons and the right wing freaks believe kids are being "indoctrinated"in public schools and that public school teachers are practically criminals. A a person with more than a fourth grade education is looked at with suspicion. But you have to understand one thing, it is important that these people keep the kids uneducated, they can't have Junior waking up one day and saying, "We believe what?!!" I'm a fourth generation Idahoan and I think I'm going to have a stroke. HELP!!!

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June 29, 2010 12:31 PM   

Using gold an silver is quite workable. Using different amounts could get tricky since it's not always convenient to measure. Perhaps the state could divide the gold and silver into pieces of standardized sizes, and mark the pieces so people know it was divided by the state and what value the piece has. The pieces should be round for easy handling, and the marking could be decorative, like images of important places or people.

Though I do think the GOP should bend a bit and recognize lots of pieces could get heavy. There should be places to store the pieces, and people could carry maybe slips of paper stating the value in metal, and just to speed up commercial transactions, allow people to exchange the slips instead of running back and forth to get metal pieces for each exchange.

With those small changes, this renewal of the use of precious metals should be quite practical.

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June 29, 2010 12:51 PM    in reply to ericf

Brill!

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June 29, 2010 12:57 PM    in reply to ericf

Idaho's only industry is gold and silver extraction, which is why they want this. Of course, a lot of the nation's less talented computer geeks who couldn't get work in California went to Boise in the last decade, where they promptly built gay bars and otherwise generally disrupted the states long held status as the state with the fewest years of education per capita.

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June 29, 2010 4:18 PM    in reply to tctundra

Uh, Idaho potatoes?

I'm surprised they weren't willing to accept payment in chips.

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July 3, 2010 4:24 PM    in reply to ericf

I'm not very knowledgeable on this stuff, but wouldn't gold and silver be a lot less flexible and a weaker source of capital and new wealth than paper fiat currency? It's a limited resource for one thing. Wikipedia says that all the gold ever mined is worth about $4.5 trillion (given average assumptions for value) which is less than half the worth of the fiat currency in circulation in the US alone, nevermind the rest of the world. It also notes that if an economy grows faster than the gold supply this leads to deflation. It seems also like gold would severely limit the choices in monetary policy. Stimulus packages would be difficult to do given that you can't simply make new gold. Wikipedia also says that analysis has shown that there was a direct correlation between when a country went off the gold standard and when they recovered from the Great Depression. Countries that left gold early recovered from the Depression more quickly.

But I guess it's nice to know that conservatives aren't just trying to drag this country back to the 18th century politically, morally, and religiously, but also economically. At least they're consistent.

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June 29, 2010 12:31 PM   

I think the vast majority of Americans would support the Freakostates Secessionistas if the movement came along with shutting off federal tax dollars to those who want to go their own way. Here's how it starts:

Dear Texas,

Thank you for being part of our Union. Now that you have made other plans, we'd like you to return the Houston Space Center, all your interstate highways, Fort Bliss, Fort Hood, the Kingsville Naval Air Station ...

You get the idea.

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June 29, 2010 1:02 PM    in reply to Doc Magnus

And...

...after we've removed U.S. miliary bases, when Mexico decides to recover some of its stolen territory, you're on your own.

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June 29, 2010 3:06 PM    in reply to draftedin68

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!! Ouch, sorry Texas. Too soon?

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June 29, 2010 3:59 PM    in reply to draftedin68

Don't forget to defund the Texas National Guard!

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June 29, 2010 1:03 PM    in reply to Doc Magnus

...and Border Patrol, ICE, that nuke plant is South TX that Obama is helping fund and fastrack, FEMA and any money you come crying for this summer when a hurricane hits one of your vital economic areas...

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June 29, 2010 2:15 PM    in reply to ShawnATL

And after the secession don't even think of nationalizing (statealizing?) the Fed properties. Just look at what happened in Iran and Guatemala in the 1950s when they tried to nationalize corporate U.S. holdings. Then again, corporations are entitled more respect.

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June 29, 2010 2:31 PM    in reply to Tombien

Even better, look at Fort Sumter. That ended well, didn't it?

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June 29, 2010 4:34 PM    in reply to Doc Magnus

while I like the idea I fear that if they have an even half-way decent divorce lawyer they'll get to keep half!

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June 29, 2010 11:18 PM    in reply to Doc Magnus

About the interstate highways here, Gov. Goodhair is selling them to a Spanish/Australian consortium to become toll roads with unlimited tolls. Oh, and the state isn't allowed to build or repair roads that go in the same direction as the toll roads. Can we send Goodhair to Idaho, please?

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June 29, 2010 12:37 PM   

Please, please, let's just let them go and see how long they last on their own. They don't even have to pay back the subsidies.

If, as Brandeis had it, the states are the laboratories of democracy, then don't we owe it to our fellow Americans to grant full sovereignty and independence to the United State of Idaho -- just to see what happens?
As long as they don't invade Washington or Oregon in order to gain access to the sea, we should be happy to set them free. If they want, Montana and Wyoming can join up too, and they can set up the Republic of God's Country and create a new capital called Liberty City. They'd be a beacon of hope to the Teabaggers, who'd emigrate from secular, ethnically diverse, progressive hellholes like Massachusetts and New York.

Sounds like win-win-win to me.

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June 29, 2010 3:12 PM    in reply to tchampmass

Yes, I love it! They could establish the white's only theogracy that their political wet dreams are filled with. Then all the white bible thumping trash can move there and enjoy their orgy of hate, ignorance, and poverty.

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June 29, 2010 4:24 PM    in reply to Zebracat

They've been trying. Unfortunately, despite claiming to represent "mainstream America", they were only able to get about 15 families to move to South Carolina. Apparently they've now switched to Idaho, possibly because the "League of the South" people make even teabaggers look sensible.

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June 29, 2010 12:42 PM   

This is the type of crap the Dems need to hit the GOP with...hard. Especially the 17th amendment repeal...think about it, the party of smaller government wants the government to pick your senators for you? The Republicans don't want you to have the right to vote. Very simple message that is likely to resonate with the voters.

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June 29, 2010 12:45 PM   

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html

Idaho gets $1.21 of Federal spending for every dollar paid in taxes by its residents. PLEASE let them stop paying taxes so we can stop sending them their welfare checks...

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June 29, 2010 12:47 PM   

Progressives are strong, working hard, and thriving in Idaho.

And all three of us live in Boise.

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June 29, 2010 12:52 PM   

No marriage for people who were born by cesarean section? WTF?

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June 29, 2010 12:54 PM   

That'll show that damn William Jennings Bryan....

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June 29, 2010 12:59 PM   

I say: let them go and give them what they want, the opportunity to live independently and without taxpayer funding of entitlements or benefits, not to mention highway or education funds or agricultural subsidies. Or at least: put it up for a referendum. Let them argue whether social security and Medicare are worth it.

I would regret the loss of national parks.

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June 29, 2010 1:05 PM   

Idaho Republicans, Leading the Way.....

Right off a cliff

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June 29, 2010 1:24 PM   

I could care less if ID, TX or SC seceded - as long as it was put to a vote among its citizens and needed to pass by like, 3/4. I mean, if the overwhelming majority of Idahoans wants to secede, let them! It saddens me that the ID GOP is so hell-bent on power that they would sell off the future of Idaho like this. But hey, it's Darwinism.

Map aesthetics-wise, I think as long as it's a border state - let's let them go without a fight.

I mean, it will leave a wierd looking giraffe shaped swatch through the northwest - but not as wierd if we let, say Missouri, were too secede.

As far as the flag, let's turn Puerto Rico into a state. Problems solved there.

And if an Idahoan wants to move or visit, they have to go through the whole process...passports, visas, green card...

And when those Idaho nationals start sneaking over into Washington or Montana to steal their jobs - we'll round them up and ship them back to Idaho.

Fucking Idaho.

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June 29, 2010 2:08 PM    in reply to ShawnATL

What we need to do is build a fence around Idaho to keep the foreigners out.

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June 29, 2010 3:20 PM    in reply to ShawnATL

Yeah, screw the Spudites of Idaho! Florida grows plenty of potatoes and they taste better too.

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June 29, 2010 1:25 PM   

You know the problem is Idaho is to close to my state. Eastern Washington is already right leaning, I think the nuts of idaho are gonna try to get more of the decent Washington folks to follow their stupidity. Though if thats the case, the repukes will leave even more in Washington, as 90% of the population lives in western Washington and we are liberal/socialist bastards.

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June 29, 2010 2:10 PM   

wpamos, there's a lot more of us than three, and we don't all live in Boise. :) I live in Kuna and am running for the legislative seat once held by Bill Sali. But we can definitely use help, if you'd be interested in contributing to my campaign. :) https://secure.dlccweb.com/o/5905/p/10021/donate

tchampm, Idaho actually has an international seaport, Lewiston.

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June 29, 2010 4:40 PM    in reply to slfisher

Good luck to you! You're state needs you.

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June 29, 2010 5:03 PM   

These guys are only interested in getting back in power any way they can, vague references to armed insurrection, change the election laws. They got thrown out by a majority of the people. That is how democracy works.
All they want is power. The republican party doeswn't giove a crap about tghe American people or the future of America. All they care about is thier own power and future.

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June 29, 2010 5:23 PM   

Go ahead and secede, I don't think the other 49 will notice.

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June 29, 2010 7:45 PM   

Oh, gawd, Idaho. What these loonies fail to appreciate is that the US is a nation writ *very* large, with many diverse opinions for us to consider.

Emily

http://emilyscoffeespot.blogspot.com

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June 29, 2010 8:29 PM   

Idaho is just another parasitic welfare state (such as Arizona) where federal law is supposedly going to be overruled by state regulation. The taxpayers in Idaho naturally feel sorry for themselves for having to pay federal taxes at all, since they have been told that every dollar they pay in federal taxes goes to welfare recipients in other states. In fact Idaho has a pretty good racket going- it nets a 20% return on its investment in federal taxes. And the more they leech off taxpayers in other states, the more they whine about their having to pamper them.

I think the federal response to an unappreciative welfare state like Idaho should be to throttle all federal services to the point where it receives the actual amount that it pays for. That means:

1. MILITARY: It's really not a good idea to be stationing military facilities in a region where federal laws will not be properly enforced. Posse comitatus prevents the military from carrying out law enforcement anyway. (Despite the dangerous belief among locals that P.C. is a myth and that the military should be involved in law enforcement.) Stationing a significant military presence in Idaho is unfair to taxpayers in other states which don't reap any of the economic advantages. Extricate it out of the state, until Idaho retains only as many National Guard troops as are necessary to deal with the homicidal conservative militias there.

2. LAW ENFORCEMENT: It will be necessary to retain a presence of federal law enforcement so that FBI agents and U.S. Marshals can actually enforce federal law in the state of Idaho, to a certain extent. They would also be needed just because criminals who have violated federal laws in other states will naturally gravitate to Idaho as a sanctuary for criminals.

3. FEDERAL HIGHWAY FUNDS: Idaho has already gotten more than it needs. This shouldn't be an issue.

4. FARMING SUBSIDIES: Eliminate the federal farm subsidies we pay to the ungrateful welfare-recipient millionaires in Idaho.

5. BORDER: Guard the border with Idaho, and ensure that all traffic in and out of the state is controlled just outside its borders by INS, TSA etc.

6. CURRENCY: If Idaho actually goes through with this boneheaded plan to base its currency on a gold standard, then these are no longer U.S. dollars but Idaho gold certificates. That would be truly awesome- seriously more of a disaster for Idaho than e.g. a potato-backed currency.
A fixed money supply of gold-backed currency will steadily accumulate in bank vaults, people's mattresses, and currency speculator accounts around the world, since an excellent investment during a currency's deflationary spiral is cash in that currency. People will buy them up like they're ordinary gold ETFs, knowing that (unlike an ETF, which cannot be used to buy potatoes) the rapidly vanishing currency will appreciate even with respect to gold (which is more fungible). Although inside Idaho, the cost of gold in their currency remains fixed. Then Idaho will be forced to keep purchasing gold with U.S. dollars at the same rate as before, simply so it can print money, and its losses get pocketed by currency and gold speculators everywhere.

Even if they weren't moving to a goofy gold standard currency, but a normal currency, any "Idaho" currency will still experience inflation or deflation of with respect to the U.S. dollar, but since Idaho is so small, that's their problem.

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June 29, 2010 9:09 PM   

Gun totin,' knuckle-scrapin' real Amurikins.

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June 29, 2010 9:24 PM   

Further proof that in Idaho, there's so little to do that it makes you crazy.

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June 29, 2010 10:05 PM   

This is America, if you don't like it get the hell out. That means you, Idaho. Please secede, and get the hell out of the way.

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June 30, 2010 10:14 AM   

"Naturally born"? so no C-section babies can get married?

"McDuff was from his mother's womb untimely ripped...so we can just shack up"

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July 3, 2010 10:05 AM   

The Air Force is evaluating Idaho sites as an operational and training base for new F-35 fighters -- a deployment which could bring a huge boost the state's economy.

How impress the Generals will be with this kind of irrational hate all things federal and also the fact that these brainiacs have cut Idaho's public education budget by over $700 per student (17%) over the past two years. Balancing the state budget on the backs of school children is a favorite tactic of those dedicated to fighting state-ism.

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