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Dem Herseth Sandlin Talks Up Vote Against Health Care In New Ad (VIDEO)
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-SD)
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Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-SD) has a new ad out for her re-election campaign in this red state -- touting her vote against the health care reform law.
In the ad, Herseth Sandlin talks about her determination to be an independent voice for South Dakotans. "It's why I voted against the bailouts, and a trillion-dollar health care plan -- but for expanding renewable energy and improving veterans benefits."
The TPM Poll Average currently has Republican state Rep. Kristi Noem leading Herseth Sandlin by 51.7%-42.4%.
(Via Jim Geraghty -- who also notes that Herseth Sandlin does not support repealing the new health care law.)
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Progressive Party
July 14, 2010 11:43 AM
what a joke of a democrat...
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Redwood Rhiadra
July 14, 2010 2:43 PM in reply to Progressive Party
My Dem friends in SD absolutely *hate* Sandlin. But there's no one else to vote for.
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Indie Tarheel
July 14, 2010 11:43 AM
Check the locale - that's probably as good as it's going to get...
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chimpale
July 14, 2010 11:46 AM
My god, but these blue dogs are a hopeless bunch of dipshits.
Good one, Stephanie. Way to show off your dumbass creds. Stand tall and proud, knowing you did your best to keep health care unaffordable for millions of Americans. You tried your darnedest to keep the donut hole from being filled, but doggone it, those seniors are now able to afford their prescriptions in spite of your valiant efforts. Oh well. Keep seeking that right-wing vote no matter what idiotic things you have to do for it.
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Numbersguy
July 14, 2010 12:01 PM in reply to chimpale
They are weakening the party by opposing the programs. Every time they vote against the policies of the Democratic Party, they make the policies more unpopular, and make their own situation more difficult. So, it's probably "bye-bye, Steph". Gee, what a dad-gum shame, eh?
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Steaming Pile
July 14, 2010 12:10 PM in reply to chimpale
I can just see the content now. "Hi! I'm Congresswoman Herseth Sandlin, and I cast a meaningless tea party pacification vote on health care reform, which I don't want to see repealed, so nobody would throw rocks at my windows. Vote for me."
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Numbersguy
July 14, 2010 11:55 AM
As a SD Dem who just moved here a year ago, I simply am totally indifferent about Steph. I don't give a shit if she wins or loses. If she wins, I get a Democrat who does not support the policies of the Democratic Party. If she loses, I get a Republican who doesn't support the policies of the Democratic Party. Gee, let's see.... Dunno who I will vote for, actually. I will not give Steph a single penny, nor will I vote for her. I think she's toast.
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FreeRider
July 14, 2010 12:02 PM in reply to Numbersguy
As bad as she is, she's better than the republican for one reason: she helps keep the gavel in Pelosi's hand and subpoena power out of Darryl Issa's.
That's reason enough to vote for her but not reason enough to give her any money.
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chimpale
July 14, 2010 12:20 PM in reply to FreeRider
I know and that really sucks. If the voters are that stupid that she has to try to sabotage something as important as health care reform to win favor with them, maybe she could make an effort to educate them instead.
Nah. Pandering is so much easier.
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Numbersguy
July 14, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to FreeRider
Oh, I'll vote for her, sure. But no money. I have gone to a number of Democratic functions (a small room is enough :-
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Measure for Measure
July 14, 2010 2:24 PM in reply to FreeRider
+1
Oh, and a primary challenge should be encouraged.
That said, I don't have a problem with politically savvy blue dogs: we all have to earn a living after all. And recall that most of them voted for health care reform, despite its risks.
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Barry Champlain
July 14, 2010 3:02 PM in reply to FreeRider
Can't argue with the timeless and uncanny wisdom of freeper, BUT...
... until Blue Dogs start meeting the same electoral fate as most of these all-hat-and-no-cattle teabagger candidates on the other side (see also: NY 23), the "party" will not get the strong message that they have to stop bowing to the Rahms, and stop nominating and backing these DINO's, because you're literally (not figuratively) electing a Republican when you do.
With the CW at losing the House anyway, perhaps this would be a good opportunity to get something out of this electoral cycle, and whack this message across the chops of Rahm and his ilk?
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FreeRider
July 14, 2010 4:03 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
You, as usual, are too stupid to close your mouth in the rain.
If you want to take out a Blue Dog, you do so in the primary, not by electing more teabaggers who have promised to stop every progressive measure and tie up Congress with subpoenas and kangaroo court investigations.
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Steaming Pile
July 14, 2010 12:31 PM in reply to Numbersguy
She and the other Blue Dogs are about to find out just how enthused we all are about going all Sir Robin with the Tea Party and voting against major Democratic initiatives.
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xargaw
July 14, 2010 1:46 PM in reply to Numbersguy
Worthless or not, if she wins it's another seat for the majority party and our majority leader. If the GOP wins, it a seat for a GOP majority leader. It's an awful choice, but still a choice.
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FreeRider
July 14, 2010 11:55 AM
Fuck her.
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The BBQ Chicken Madness
July 14, 2010 11:55 AM
It's going to be amusing to watch her get creamed in the Fall. Blue Dogs enable Republican obstructionism...then get slaughtered in the elections because Dems haven't done anything.
Great plan, Gen. Custer!
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FreeRider
July 14, 2010 12:00 PM
If skank/hoes like her and Bobby Bright and Travis Childers hold on and folks like Periello, Markey, Boccieri lose, me and the Good Lord are gonna have a lil talk about justice.
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crazycarnypoptart
July 14, 2010 12:36 PM
you know I used ot think thes epeople were sell outs, but I am starting to see they are doing the will of thier consticuency. Its just the people in her district have been brainwashed by fox that this is going to signal the destruction of all they hold dear and force their daughter to date black hoodlums.
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acriticalthinker
July 14, 2010 2:38 PM in reply to crazycarnypoptart
"you know I used ot think thes epeople were sell outs, but I am starting to see they are doing the will of thier consticuency."
Exactly right...but most Democrats are perfectly willing and eager to vote AGAINST the will of their constituents and to do WHATEVER Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and the party want them to do. I have no problem with Democrats or Republicans doing the will of their constituents on most issues. For Democrats, it is all ideology and partisan politics ALL of the time.
"Its just the people in her district have been brainwashed by fox..."
You guys can't have it both ways: Fox is just a fringe channel that only a few "far right wingnuts" watch AND Fox is a powerful hypnotizing force that brainwashes even the "vast majority" who never watch or listen to it---including Democrats and Independents.
"..that this is going to signal the destruction of all they hold dear and force their daughter to date black hoodlums."
Although Dems are going full speed ahead on destroying the country, the last part is WAY over the top. Although perhaps it puts on display your latent racism in linking "black" and "hoodlum". Who knew good liberal Democrats could be racists (we won't even mention Robert "KKK" Byrd and his "white n*****" statement of just a few years ago).
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crazycarnypoptart
July 14, 2010 10:19 PM in reply to acriticalthinker
ok first off the people voted for obama and the democrats because they agreed with their agenda so they are doing the will of the people. Its just certain districts are more conservative than others, usually its because they are not big into critical thinking. Secondly I never said fox wa sa fringe element, fox is a multibillion dollar television network that sadly paints a fascist bias on their news to help the corporations and their puppets i.e. the republican party. Finally I was speaking of a deep fear they have they their daughters would be dating black hoodlums the reason why I used that is becuase racist bitches like yourself find Black hoodlums to be scarier than white hoodlums and for the record I never said I was a democrat or a liberal. I am a mother fucking carny, I come here to have intelligent conversations with intelligent people(not including you, you shit stain)
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acriticalthinker
July 15, 2010 9:34 AM in reply to crazycarnypoptart
"ok first off the people voted for obama and the democrats because they agreed with their agenda so they are doing the will of the people."
Well, maybe a few people did. But a lot of the campaign was not about a socialist agenda. In fact, a BIG part of his campaign was an airy appeal to "hope" and "change" (I am not George Bush) along with a conservative sounding promise of "tax cuts for 95% of Americans (actually not continuing rate reductions but small one time credits) and promises of "bi-partisanship", getting away from "business as usual" (no lobbyists in his administration) and "transparency" and "openness" and "high ethics" never seen before. All of this was to appeal to independents who thought they were voting for a new kind of politician, and a centrist. All of that went out the window on January 20, 2009. The campaign mask came off and the true nature of Obama and the Democrat majority has been revealed for all to see. Independents are leaving the Democrats in droves as what the Democrats are doing is NOT what they expected or voted for. Believe that the majority of voters believed in the Dems' agenda if you wish, but that does not characterize all or even a major portion of those who voted for Obama. If Dems are doing the "will of the people" why was it so hard to RAM THROUGH health care reform and are Dems facing a blood bath in November? If they are doing the will of the people, you would expect that Dems would PICK UP seats, as the Republicans did in Bush's first mid term election.
"Its just certain districts are more conservative than others, usually its because they are not big into critical thinking."
I agree that certain districts are more conservative than others, but your typically insulting and condescending dismissal of why they are conservative is off target. Anyone who believes that health care "reform" can insure 16 million more people and REDUCE the deficit are not thinking at all. The Obama believers are the ones who are lacking in critical thinking.
"Secondly I never said fox wa sa fringe element, fox is a multibillion dollar television network that sadly paints a fascist bias on their news to help the corporations and their puppets i.e. the republican party."
"Fascist bias" to "help corporations" and "their puppets"???? What a joke!
"Finally I was speaking of a deep fear they have they their daughters would be dating black hoodlums the reason why I used that is becuase racist bitches like yourself find Black hoodlums to be scarier than white hoodlums..."
I find all hoodlums to be scary. For the record, I am white and I have a black brother in law and black nephews and nieces. Your comment is just evidence of ignorant prejudice about both conservatives and blacks.
"...and for the record I never said I was a democrat or a liberal."
Obviously you are not a conservative....so if you are not a Democrat or a liberal then what?
"I am a mother fucking carny..."
What does that mean (I get the MF part and the "crazy" part too, but "carny" tells me nothing about your politics. Educate me.)
"I come here to have intelligent conversations with intelligent people(not including you, you shit stain)"
"Dialogues" with non-conservatives such as yourself always seem to come down to derogatory name calling (not a great sign of high intelligence, civility, or the ability to carry on an intelligent converation).
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crazycarnypoptart
July 15, 2010 11:27 AM in reply to acriticalthinker
ok you agree with me on the first point that they were elceted based on their agenda the rest is you acting like a little spoiled bitch. So now lets move onto what else you said
"Fascist bias" to "help corporations" and "their puppets"???? What a joke!"
See you can't refute it with actual evidence so you call it a joke, but its true. Now lets look at something else you said
"Obviously you are not a conservative....so if you are not a Democrat or a liberal then what?"
Wow you are an ignorant closeminded fuck face, I have news for you there is more than just democrat or republican. I have some conservative views and some liberal views, not everyone has to fit into the choices you have given them. I know that you are a narrowminded dip shit so I don't expect you to understand so its ok.
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crazycarnypoptart
July 15, 2010 12:03 PM in reply to crazycarnypoptart
You know that was a bit harsh, but I am just tired of you guys always saying the majority of the people and the will of the people but its just not true. The majority of YOUR people disagree with their agenda but thats not the people. Also this stuff about bipartisanship, they constantly reach across the aisle, but the republican plan is to obstruct everything to make it look like they don't have bipartisanship. The health care plan was a republican proposal that was made back in 1993. Now like I previously said I am not a liberal or a conservative so I guess you can call me an independant. In fact let me tell you about my views, in foreign policy I am a classic conservative I beleive in isolationism to a point,not completely but to a point. I think there should be trade I just don't think our military should get involved with othe rcountries unless they are a real threat to us. I believe there is a difference between terrorists and countries. In domestic social policy, well I have some views I see as classic conservatism like I think an abortion is the indiviual womans choice and I believe people have the right to choose who they marry. I also think the government should not be involved in the bp clean up beyond ensuring bp actually does clean up their mess. But for some reason these are not positions the republican party supports. In economics I am a Fiscal progressive, by that I mean I believe we should look into new ways of making money. I think we should look into subsidy reform. Trickle down economics does not work. I beleive social security is a good thing and should be a safety net as it is although I do think we shouold raise the cap to match modern incomes. I also belive all health care should be a public service provided to everyone, no different than the police or the fire department. I also beleive we should start working on mining the resources in the moon.
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Prairie Cat
July 14, 2010 12:47 PM
I live in South Dakota and have never voted for a House or Senate Republican. It changes this year for me, my family and friends. The discussion is that we would rather see a republican win so we, hopefully, do not have Rep H-S running for Senate later on. We want a real Democrat in the seat and if we are going to have one that votes as a republican, we might as well have a republican.
The absolute dismay and disgust with Rep H-S voting record here among the people I know, is something I have never heard before and we understand the fine line a Democrat in this state must sometimes walk. Rep H-S representation has been BS from the beginning and getting worse.
Now, I am looking for a good Democratic pick-up seat in the house we can support in another state. Any ideas?
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chimpale
July 14, 2010 1:02 PM in reply to Prairie Cat
You could feel real good about supporting Tarryl Clark against Michele Bachmann in Minnesota's 6th.
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FreeRider
July 14, 2010 1:47 PM in reply to Prairie Cat
How will you feel knowing you helped make the words "Speaker Bohner" happen?
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roxsteady
July 14, 2010 12:53 PM
The Dems HAVE to maintain their majority in the House because if they do, they can render these idiot blue dogs useless. They will be made invisible by the sheer number of real Dems who out number them. This bitch, like all the rest will be nothing more than a figure head. She'll have no power to sway legislation.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
July 14, 2010 12:54 PM
Thing is, she's not just a Blue Dog. She's the head of their caucus and thus bound to be more orthodox than the others. I'm sure it seemed like a peachy-keen idea at the time, but she never should have accepted that gig.
All that said, I'm really not comfortable with the "I'd rather see her lose to a real Republican so she can't run for Senate" thing, at least not this year. That's local and hypothetical and this year, we've got to think national and concrete.
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ADad
July 14, 2010 1:04 PM
Cute baby.
I'd like to join the pile on, but I'm still smarting from the effect that Nader for President had on human history. In the long run, I'd rather see Sandlin re-elected than have her replace by one of Satan's spawn. Sandlin or a demon. Your choice S.D.
BTW, Satan's Spawn supports repealing healthcare reform and replacing it with something shittier.
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Lucieann
July 14, 2010 1:12 PM
Nice 'warm and fuzzy" ad.....but it takes more than that to win elections......And she is not ad independent as she says she is.....she's a Blue Dog "Democrat"...in other words, she's a DINO.
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rbeats
July 14, 2010 1:23 PM
I'm glad she voted against the Health Care AHIP giveaway bonanza. The bill was garbage, and still is garbage.
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FreeRider
July 14, 2010 1:48 PM in reply to rbeats
No doubt you recognize garbage easily after seeing it in the mirror all these years.
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chameleon
July 14, 2010 2:07 PM in reply to FreeRider
Kick some ass FreeRider like only you can.
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JohnW1141
July 14, 2010 1:30 PM
If she votes against extending unemployment benefits she can brag about that too.
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Prairie Cat
July 14, 2010 1:48 PM
There is more to this than just H-S screwy positioning on issues. She campaigns in a way that weakens Democratic standing in the state. It is almost as though she is apologetic about being a Democrat. We have a long history of Democratic US Senate and House representation in South Dakota and there is just no need for the way she campaigns. It denigrates Democratic positions in general. H-S spent most of her adult life outside of South Dakota and it shows. H-S is positioning herself by way of the duck 'n cover dem consultants who wet themselves over any kind of imagined challenges.
Polling in South Dakota showed that health care reform was supported but in the infinite wisdom of "just trust me" Herseth-Sandlin, she voted against because is was too expensive. Our Democratic Senator Tim Johnson even made a statement that he was supporting health care reform because the people of South Dakota supported it.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
July 14, 2010 3:37 PM in reply to Prairie Cat
You just put your finger on what really pisses me off about her and most of the other Blue Dogs. They're the remaining client base for the kind of Beltway Democratic consultants who were a cancer eating away at the Democratic Party's guts for more than two decades.
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Philv
July 14, 2010 2:14 PM
Maybe I'm just too cynical, and don't know enough about SD, but for me, much better to have the problem of your excess House D's going off the reservation then the R problem of only being competitive in certain slices of the country.
Now the Senate is a totally different story...
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acriticalthinker
July 15, 2010 10:38 AM in reply to Philv
"...much better to have the problem of your excess House D's going off the reservation then the R problem of only being competitive in certain slices of the country."
Yeah, if you look at the Washington Post map of the 2008 election results, it is clear that Republicans are only competitive in certain slices of the country.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html
Besides, losses of Dem governorships in NJ and VA and Ted Kennedy's seat to Scott Brown were just flukes and tell us nothing about the voters' continuing favor for Democrats, which is VERY strong.
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