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Diversity Is In The Eye Of The Beholder: A Day At Uni-Tea
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It was billed as the most diverse tea party rally ever. For three hours Saturday afternoon, we waited for the diversity to show up.
Was Saturday's Uni-Tea rally in Philadelphia a success? Well, it depends on your definition of "epic fail." If you're more on the defensive end of the tea party spectrum, you would have left the rally this afternoon even more convinced that the movement is not now about race and never has been. If you're the kind of tea partier who'd like to see that abounding not-racism result in some actual demographic diversity in the movement, the Uni-Tea rally appeared to be a borderline disaster.
For three hours, a small crowd drifted in and out of Independence Park as speakers and musicians regaled them with paranoia about Democratic politicians and policies and reassurances that no matter what anyone says, there's no racism in the tea party.
Even as just a regular old tea party rally, the event fell flat. Though organizers said the event's website had been visited more than 2 million times in the days leading up to today's rally outside Independence Hall, for most of the afternoon there were fewer than 500 in attendance. It was clear from the large numbers of volunteers and the 1,500 bottles the organizers put on ice that they expected a big crowd to turn out. They did not get it by a long shot. They blamed a traffic jam on I-95 for keeping people away (for the record one organizer said that she counted 1,500 on the high end of attendance, but that appeared a bit generous to us).
Among those who did make it, for most of the time the numbers of non-white faces could be counted on two hands, and maybe a foot.
The same can't be said for the group who went up on the event's small stage. Organizers promised the most diverse cadre of speakers ever to grace a tea party rally, and they delivered. For the most part their message was the same: tea partiers are not racists and never were -- but liberals are.
"The more liberals talk about race, the more they show who the real racists are," right-wing blogger Andre Harper told the crowd. "It's 2010. The tea party has officially moved on passed the race issue. The liberals can have it."
Apparently, Uni-Tea wasn't only bridging the racial gap. Brendan Kissam and Matt Hissey wandered into the event carrying signs that said "proud gay conservative" and "freedom is fabulous." They said they were "the Gayborhood's envoy to the tea party."
The pair said the tea party is welcoming to their minority group, too. "The Tea Party is accepting of everybody," said Hissey, adding that "Skin color diversity -- that's not real diversity. Everyone here has a different life experience." Hissey recognized that the tea party "might be against gay marriage," but that's ok, he said, because he is too.
Uni-Tea reached out the hand of tea party acceptance to young people, too -- in the form of white conservative rapper Hi-Caliber and a band of veterans called The Bangers. "This reaches out to the 18-34 year-olds," organizer Jeffrey Weingarten said. It should be noted that Weingarten was successful in getting at least one 18-34 year-old to join him for the day: his son, Freedom Weingarten.
David Webb, an African American top official with Tea Party Federation and the man who shamed Mark Williams and the Tea Party Express for being racist a couple weeks ago, emceed the event and told the tea party crowd that it didn't matter if only a few minorities joined the cause.
"I didn't realize that any movement everywhere had a minimum daily requirement of black people to be legitimate," he said.
In his speech, Andrew Breitbart, echoed the sentiment, blaming the liberal-media "cabal" evident in things like JournoList for suggesting that there have been moments that tea partiers have appeared to be less than 100% welcoming of blacks.
Most of the emphasis was on how not-racist the tea party is. But one speaker, African American conservative blogger Vanessa Jean Louis, offered some solutions for what conservatives can do to reach out to African Americans.
"Black people are very conservative," she told TPM. "I think the problem is with the packaging of the message. So if we can talk about issues, instead of you know, left talking points and right - wing talking points, if we could talk about the issues, then that would really resonate."
Louis said there was a simple explanation for why there aren't more black tea partiers.
"Typically the conservative movement is predominantly white," she said. "But there are black people there. And there are more and more black people waking up to what it means, what higher taxes mean."
The few African Americans scattered amongst the audience seemed to agree. All of the minorities in the crowd that we talked to said they were comfortable being part of a movement that they acknowledged was very white, and they said that charges of racism against tea pariters from some African Americans are largely coming from the movement's political enemies.
The long-term effect of what was essentially a small group of white tea partiers gathering to be told by minorities that they're not racist is unclear. But organizers said they accomplished a lot at the event, and said that more Uni-Tea rallies are planned for the future.
"I hope it has taken away any idea that the tea party is racist," Terry Adams of the Independence Hall Tea Party, a co-sponsor of the event, said. "The crowd today was more diverse than I've seen at a tea party rally."
"It's a start," she said.
Photos by Jillian Rayfield.
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July 31, 2010 9:10 PM
Tea Party Talking point...
No minorities showing up proves that minorities are racist.
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August 1, 2010 2:16 AM in reply to Kevin
lol nice channeling your inner beck
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Seismedia
August 1, 2010 8:11 PM in reply to Sergio
"No minorities showing up proves that minorities are racist."
Actually, there were some minorities there... The Tea Partiers - please tell me they are the minority and not the majority!
Seriously though, I think that as people took pictures, the Blacks, Gays, and Latinos ducked because they were embarrassed or something, but they were there, especially for the free food. I go to these kind of functions all the time. Heck, I'll test drive a Prius just to get a free hot dog and a balloon. Maybe that was the problem, I don't see many balloons in the photos. Note to Beck and Bachman, Order some balloons next time!
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jjdjjd
August 1, 2010 7:45 AM in reply to Kevin
check out the polls at the top right hand corner of this page, it seems to me you guys are pissing into the wind. 90 days till november 2.
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SchoolyT
August 1, 2010 8:36 AM in reply to jjdjjd
Keep fooling yourself and prepare for a historic result in 90 days. Polls were situated similarly about 2 years ago and remember what happened?
Can't wait to see what strategy the GOP attempts. If it's anything like their efforts of the past year or two, it will make for some great laughs and be a textbook case of "this is how not to do this" to be taught in the PoliSci classes.
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Seismedia
August 1, 2010 8:26 PM in reply to SchoolyT
"Can't wait to see what strategy the GOP attempts. If it's anything like their efforts of the past year or two, it will make for some great laughs and be a textbook case of "this is how not to do this" to be taught in the PoliSci classes."
Good point, the Republigoons have a horrible understanding of PR. They think it's all quaint to make historical references and then Olbermman co-opts their slogan with a more modern reference. If they really wanted to make waves, they should go with one of the following slogans/names:
Idea 1. "Get-Your-Frick'n-Mitts-Off-My-Hard-Earned-Cash Party" or the "GYFMOMHE Party"
(Okay, a little long and and too many consonants in the acronym).
Idea 2. "What-are-you-a-bunch-of-Freekin-Euro-Socialists-or-Something Party" or the "WAYABOFESOS Party"
(A little better, nice balance of consonants and vowels, but still too long and less than memorable)
Idea 3. "No-Free-Lunch Party" or "NFL"
(Short, sweet, and extremely memorable, especially on Mondays)
Idea 4. "Rule-of-Freekin'-Law Party" or "ROFL Party"
(Short, Constitutional sounding, but there's something bugging me about the acronym - feels like I've seen it used before.
Well, I thought I'd give it a go, but maybe Tea Party isn't all that bad.
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JEP07
August 1, 2010 8:50 AM in reply to jjdjjd
sockpuppet...
who's hand is in that sock?
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condew
August 2, 2010 5:24 PM in reply to JEP07
Yes, I keep wondering who pays for these Tea party events? I'm sure they are astroturf, it's just that nobody has been able to follow the money yet.
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cjop
August 1, 2010 12:01 PM in reply to jjdjjd
I agree that it doesn't look good for the Dems come November. And they only have themselves to blame. However I wouldn't put much stock in the Rasmussen Polls as they are generally biased and used to get the candidate that is behind (read Dem) to spend money early. BTW the photo of the teabag hanging in front of the hat wearer's mouth. Accidental?
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 2:46 PM in reply to cjop
Right. It's a foregone conclusion that oooh kids, it's so-o-o scary, and we're all over in November. Because as we all know, the Enthusiasm Level [tm] of the teabaggers will swamp us Dems, as we sit home, Unmotivated, whil all the raging patriots in those photographs storm the polls and take back their country.
All 2 million of them...
Uh, all 250,000 of them...
Uh, all 500 of them...
Shit, why even bother with the election in November? We're fucked. Stay home, Unmotivated Democrats!
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patmcgrowen
August 1, 2010 4:44 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
Ironically the Tea Party rallies the Democrat base better than the Democrat party. If it wasn't for the teabaggers, my guess would be no dems would feel inclined to show up in Nov. Speaking for myself, I intend to vote against the teabagging agenda. I look forward to "treading" on them.
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TomStewart
August 1, 2010 8:00 PM in reply to patmcgrowen
That would be the 'Democratic' party, btw.
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patmcgrowen
August 8, 2010 7:11 PM in reply to TomStewart
I stand corrected, typing with too much passion. LOL
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August 2, 2010 10:34 AM in reply to cjop
The Dems did what to themselves? Passed a healthcare bill that helps millions of Americans in need? Started a withdrawl from Iraq that will have troops under 50,000 by the end of this month? Passed a financial reform bill that is the first major step in taking the power away from Wall Street and returning it to the American people?
Sorry, but you're locked in the Fox News bubble. The rest of us are only upset because Obama hasn't been liberal enough and the Dems in congress need more backbone. This gathering of 500 people in Philly doesn't even warrant the attention of the rest of the US but since it was hyped on Fox, we all watched... And we saw the Tea Party fail again.
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 5:54 PM in reply to Erran
You think the ObamaCare Bill waste help people? You must be on crack. It's to manage the masses when the economy collapses.
You've been drinking flouride water, huh?
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jeffgee
August 3, 2010 12:44 PM in reply to dwjoae
Yeah. That's why I don't have any cavities.
The GOP Kool-Aid laced tea you're drinking stains your brain.
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dwjoae
August 3, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to jeffgee
No cavities? I guess you've been gobbling it up!
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biglith
August 1, 2010 12:23 PM in reply to jjdjjd
Let's hope it hits you in the face.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 4:25 PM in reply to jjdjjd
Hey you know what happens when you go to the Pol overage and filter out "Rasmussen" and "Fox News"
Republicans 45.2 Democrats 44.6
0.6 points difference. Amaaazing that removing 2 polsters could have such a dramatic effect, eh. See what happens when anyone else is removed? That's right, not much.
See you in November indeed.
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Turnaround
August 1, 2010 7:58 PM in reply to jjdjjd
A huge share of Obama's negatives comes from dissatisfaction from the progressive left (like me).
I'm eager to pull things left, but if my choice in November comes down an Obama supporter or a teabagger, I sure ain't gonna go teabagging.
And there's a lot more people like me out there than there are teabagging fools with funny hats and muddled thoughts.
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JEP07
August 1, 2010 8:44 AM in reply to Kevin
I'm still looking for a slide show with all the "colored people" but you can't do a slideshow with one pic, doncha know!
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:15 AM in reply to JEP07
I'll bet some of your best friends are black just to prove your a diversity kind of guy who can preach to others about their racism.
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JEP07
August 1, 2010 4:32 PM in reply to alaric
if you had any idea...
btw, which "your" did you get wrong?
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JEP07
August 1, 2010 4:33 PM in reply to alaric
you must be the guy writing all those slogans and signs...
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cwnidog
August 1, 2010 9:56 PM in reply to JEP07
You mean alaric's the original "Moran"? Well, doesn't that just explain everything we see from his fevered little mind.
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EastWest
August 1, 2010 11:35 AM in reply to JEP07
Sure you can. Look what Fox "News" did with the picture of the Two - er, New Black Panthers.
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August 2, 2010 10:50 AM in reply to Kevin
No...it proves they know they are not welcome. The TP says they are not racist but have never done anything to make anyone who is not white feel welcome in their "organization". Also since the TP seems to be a front for the GOP, most minorities know that the republicans don't do anything for them except the few really rich blacks. ( And don't point to Michael Steele as he is their token and not well liked on the inside either. )
I still feel the movement is in need of a snappy slogan.
http://www.joethevoter.org/tea-party-slogan-contest.html
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John M
August 2, 2010 11:10 AM in reply to Kevin
Black people are very conservative," she told TPM.
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Is this why 75% of Blacks vote Democrat, because they are "so conservative"?
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Matt Jones
July 31, 2010 10:06 PM
Kudos to Brendan Kissam and Matt Hissey: proudly standing up for the teabaggers right to tie them to a pickup and drag them to death for being gay.
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Common Sense Caucus
July 31, 2010 10:28 PM in reply to Matt Jones
Well said. There are always self hating individuals who can be counted on to promote the legitimacy of hate. Teabaggers are racist fascists, nothing more nothing less.
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Jimtoday3034
August 1, 2010 3:11 AM in reply to Matt Jones
They sound like a couple of gays on the move!
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:13 AM in reply to Matt Jones
Name me one anti gay moment at a Tea Party rally?
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musgrove
August 1, 2010 9:57 AM in reply to alaric
There are quite a few but how about the one where they were calling Barney Frank anti gay slurs.
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 6:40 PM in reply to musgrove
Barney Frank is the biggest buffoon going. He's the one whose boyfriend was running the male prostitution ring out of the condo the taxpayers gave him to live near the Capitol?
If he was a Republican, he would have been launched. But, the Jackass Democrats keep reelecting that dirt bag.
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fla_kracker
August 1, 2010 10:11 AM in reply to alaric
What's their position on same sex marriage?
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JDinBalt
August 1, 2010 10:13 AM in reply to alaric
To be more specific, the one big rally in and around the US Capitol where they yelled two black senators "N----R" and Barney Frank "F----T" when they saw them - and all the teabaggers cheered. That would be an example.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 4:36 PM in reply to JDinBalt
Never happened. That story was made up. There is no video or audio that shows any racial slurs.
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slb
August 1, 2010 7:34 PM in reply to alaric
I heard it; on videos posted on this site. Just because you guys refuse to hear it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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August 2, 2010 10:38 AM in reply to alaric
That's a lie, Alaric.
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Kuyleh
August 2, 2010 3:24 PM in reply to alaric
Just because you refuse to watch it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I saw the video here, on YouTube, on Facebook...Quite a few places.
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RachelKnott
August 1, 2010 5:57 PM in reply to JDinBalt
Show your proof. No audio, no video. No better than the story about Los Zetas drug cartel taking over the 2 ranches.
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FreemanW
August 1, 2010 2:19 PM in reply to alaric
Wow, okay, a low bar. This is easy.
Ooohh, it's a swing and a miss.
That was not the one that alaric was thinking of, so you're wrong.
Arguing with Tea Partiers (Racists) is like arguing with the village idiot or a flat earther.
It is not an argument as much as it is a futile exercise.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 4:34 PM in reply to FreemanW
Those were liberal plants.
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slb
August 1, 2010 7:35 PM in reply to alaric
Yeah, right.
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CammyLea
August 2, 2010 2:50 AM in reply to alaric
Do you have any idea how paranoid you sound?
Like I or any of the progressives/liberals that I know would subject themselves to that kind of idiocy.
Liberal plants. You must mean leftist ferns.
Because as far as anyone's proved, there have been no inflitrators of these rallies by progressives.
We wouldn't bother; y'all have perfected the insanity to an art form. Why mess with perfection?
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August 2, 2010 10:39 AM in reply to alaric
What? Wow. You Teabaggers are nutjobs!
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 10:24 PM in reply to Erran
You think Tea Party people are nuts!? Ever listen to a bunch of mentally ill leftist liberals?
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ohyeathatsright
August 1, 2010 12:36 PM in reply to Matt Jones
That's why they were the 'Gayborhood envoys', because no other gays that may have been there would dare to flaunt it.
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h0db
August 1, 2010 4:47 PM in reply to Matt Jones
Hissey and Kissam, really? I think someones leg is being pulled.
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barryashe
August 1, 2010 5:14 PM in reply to Matt Jones
These names are suspicious - Brendan Kiss-him and Matt Hissey-fit, my ass. I think the gay name fairy has been at work blessing these two jokesters.
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jenesq
July 31, 2010 10:06 PM
The Tea Party concept of diversity reminds me of the scene from The Blues Brothers where they ask the proprietor of a redneck bar what kind of music they like:
"We like BOTH kinds of music...country AND western!"
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:18 AM in reply to jenesq
You don't know a damn thing about the Tea Party except what Keith Olberman tells you. Get your own mind instead of being brainwashed by the lefts anger and hate.
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VAsouthernliberal
August 1, 2010 10:03 AM in reply to alaric
We do know about the tea party. Everyone with any sense knows they are a bunch of racists. Keith is only telling the truth.
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JEP07
August 1, 2010 4:38 PM in reply to VAsouthernliberal
The "non-racist" teapeople don't realize that in defending themselves, while including all teapeople under their umbrella, the have a values catch 22. When you are joined at the hip to bigots, no matter how lacking in prejudice you might be, you are inexorably attached to those bigots by refusing to require a non-racism code or creed.
That is all the Tea movement needed to do, was come up with a creed that their members could agree to, that renounced racism, but instead they doubled down and called the NAACP racists.
Easy fix, why can' the non-racists write a creed that weeds out the racists?
The real problem is, the non-racists are not the essence of the movement, so they do not control the message.
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RyanWV
August 1, 2010 10:16 AM in reply to alaric
I don't watch Keith O. but from the DC rallies it's pretty clear that there's a lot of racist angst in that group of folk, but then again I'm from West Virginia and there's a lot of closeted (and not so closeted) racist angst there too. Sure the group as a whole and their movement isn't tied to any racist agenda but they are a a magnet for some racist crazies.
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Mary Alice
August 1, 2010 8:10 PM in reply to RyanWV
They are THE magnet.
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CherStoleMyFace
August 1, 2010 10:30 AM in reply to alaric
One thing we know for sure about T-Bags, is you guys are 100% outraged all the time. You all insist, at all times, "we aren't racist, we aren't homophobic". Yet the crazy signs you all hold, the things said by T-Bags, are often tinged with racism and homophobia, certainly your members holding up a sign of the President dressed as a witch doctor is racist. Yet you all never admit it. Why? Let me answer this for you, when you gather in groups of white people and talk to each other about your black friends, makes it seem like you might have a problem with large numbers of people of color. Because it is interesting that your friends of color never seem to attend one of your TBag parties. And not only do you insist you aren't racist, homophobic, etc, but then you come here and attempt to bully people, hurl insults, etc, and you seem to believe this is going to either 1. get more T-Bags, or 2. Intimidate people to quit posting mean things about the T-Bag Party.
Because to be honest with you, what you write is simply not convincing.
but good luck in the future with your attempts to recruit more members.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 4:52 PM in reply to CherStoleMyFace
Tea Partiers full of rage.NOT. Liberal pro illegal alien rallies full of violence.Liberal pro gay marriage rallies full of violence.Liberal protests at G-20 full of violence. Liberal anti Tea Party rallies full of violence directed at Tea Party members. The left Cher is the home of rage.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 6:02 PM in reply to alaric
"Liberal pro gay marriage rallies full of violence."
This sign was photographed At a NOM rally in Philidelphia on July 26th
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gay-hate-sign2.jpg
Could you tell me how a sign which has 2 nooses and has a quote from the bible saying those who have committed sodomy should be put to death, is not advocating violence at a conservative rally?
(from http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/27/nom-marriage-sign/)
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Seismedia
August 1, 2010 10:24 PM in reply to Squire T
"which has 2 nooses and has a quote"
Probably a Sarah Palin fanatic, promoting not just an end to Gay Marriage, but eliminating Cervus Canadensis. What's with all the violence promoted against Blacks, Gays, and Latinos (and now large but harmless wildlife)!?
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August 2, 2010 10:54 AM in reply to alaric
Wow... Pretty evident that we have a classic Tea-Bagger here. From what I can see from this post, we have an angry white person of moderate to low education level who can't discuss the issue and only scrawls barely legible Fox News talking points.
What is the point of your post? That demonstartions and rallies can get out of hand? Yes. They can. The mob mentality. We get it. Our point is that the TEA PARTY rallies are BASED on racism and anger towards the President of the United States. The people, the chants, the speakers, the signs... Everything points to the hate. You're not protesting war or poverty or oppression... You're opposing a black president.
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 10:36 AM in reply to alaric
The most hideous and disgusting thing about that Loony Lib [tm] Keith Olbermann (and the rest of his ilk), is that he has the brazen audacity to show actual PICTURES of racist teabaggers. The nerve! That stooge of the librul media is fully aware that, as the great conservative commentator Stephen Colbert once said, "The truth has a distinct liberal bias!"
(All right, enough of that...)
The one telling aspect of this whole dog-and-pony show will be the way it plays in the mainstreammedia today, and maybe for the next few days. Pay very strict attention whether your fave network paints what went on as, say: "An attempt to show the country that the Tea Party movement is made up up many diverse races and nationalities, as well as people of other sexual orientations... crowds were estimated in the thousands. The presenatation featured an array of black and white speakers..."
See? It's all how you tell the story. The above sounds nothing like what you just read from McMorris-Santoro and Rayfield, does it? Yet which more accurately describes what went down?
And, mark my words, the MSM has been so thoroughly mau-mau'd by the likes of Breibart and and Fox, that it would be a goddamned miracle if it weren't reported in that very vanilla fashion. Which essentially leaves the 'baggers' agenda unquestioned and their assertions unchalleneged.
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jeffgee
August 1, 2010 10:53 AM in reply to alaric
Well, then, enlighten us.
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cjop
August 1, 2010 12:08 PM in reply to alaric
I don't need Keith Olberman to tell me what to think. Any "thinking" person can see it for themselves. The Tea Party will self destruct on its own. Crushed by the weight of it's own stupidity and ideology.
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FreemanW
August 1, 2010 2:34 PM in reply to alaric
How utterly ironic.
The unintended consequences of the Tea Party . . .
parody and satire are meeting their demise.
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Spiffarino
August 1, 2010 2:59 PM in reply to alaric
The god-damned things I know about the Teabag Party come from my own brother and from people I have worked with for more than a decade.
They have no idea about what the Constitution actually says, instead letting Glenn Beck et al explain it to them. Plus, all this teabag bullshit started in October 2008, before Obama was sworn in or even elected. They don't care what he actually does, they just know they're agin' it!
Teabaggers have no actual credibility. What they do have are slavish devotees in the media who will hump any story that makes their corporate masters happy.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 4:46 PM in reply to Spiffarino
All that rage coming from you just to say you hat them because they dont agree with you.It's a good thing your a good liberal and dont own a gun.
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August 2, 2010 10:59 AM in reply to alaric
That's not what he said at all.
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 6:35 PM in reply to Spiffarino
Whenever I want to catch up on the Tea Party, or Glenn Beck, I come to this site. Wow! You guys watch Beck constantly. I've never seen one of his shows.
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jenesq
August 1, 2010 3:28 PM in reply to alaric
I don't watch Keith Olbermann. And I have actually talked to tea partiers in real life.
Nice try, though.
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FreemanW
August 1, 2010 7:19 PM in reply to alaric
YEAH ! and you never will unless someone tells you the super-secret handshake and the password . . . or . . . you check their websites, watch the news, read blogs, and check online news sites.
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Militant Without A Cause
August 2, 2010 9:37 AM in reply to alaric
So I should be brainwashed by the anger from the right instead of the left?
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Apphouse50
July 31, 2010 10:11 PM
I can't wait to see if Faux Fautoshops the pictures and places the teensy crowd in a tornedo and torrential downpour on which they can blame the pathetic turnout.
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Viva!America!
July 31, 2010 10:22 PM
Those black folks at the event are completely ignorant. If they actually believe that the T-party is about taxes, they're ignorant. If they don't think the T-party is racist, they're ignorant. Wake the fuck up, pick up a paper or a book not recommended by glenn beck and get a damn clue.
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Common Sense Caucus
July 31, 2010 10:30 PM in reply to Viva!America!
These teabaggers need to be treated like the fascists they are. Smash fascism! No platform for fascists!
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dwjoae
August 3, 2010 2:38 PM in reply to Common Sense Caucus
Obama is combining business and the government, and he's violating contract privacy and the Constitution as he does. That's called fascism.
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thepoliticalcat
July 31, 2010 10:54 PM in reply to Viva!America!
You really think the "minorities" attending the event were NOT paid to be there? I find it highly unlikely that any person, brown, black, or otherwise, with a modicum of self-respect would voluntarily go be a token for people who have publicized their feelings about those of us of the browner persuasions. And those feelings have, hitherto, been most unattractive.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:12 AM in reply to thepoliticalcat
In other words, get back on the liberal plantation or you'll be demogogued as an Uncle Tom or worse? There's tolerance in progland.
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cindyperry2009
August 1, 2010 10:27 AM in reply to alaric
No they would much rather stay there and be called N****R
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 11:07 AM in reply to alaric
You're really fooling nobody. The networks and newspapers may not have figured this out yet... you may not have figured this out yet... but for a driven and ambitious African-American with a sharp mind, a good vocabulary, writing style and a glib tongue (your "clean and articulate" joke, here ), who may be having trouble finding upward mobility in a crowded and competitive job market, becoming a "Black conservative" is a hell of a lucrative gig.
There will always be some division of the Republican machine, willing to throw fat paychecks at some totally amoral snarky Black dude or ex-Black sorority sister with glazed eyes and a chirpy delivery (note that none of them are "scary" Blacks!), willing to supporting a party and policies that have perennially shit all over their own people.
Its purpose is twofold: it reassures stupid white people that "See? They're not all like that! There are some good ones!"; and allegedly demoralizes normal African-Americans within their community. This last one, I have long believed, is just a masturbatory fantasy of the right, because the actual numbers of "conservative" Blacks have literally never moved off the dime. Yet, like any party that has driven the economy into the drink, they continue to throw good money after bad. You won't hear Ron Christie complaining about that, however. And Michael Steele? Shoot, the day he left the 3-card monte game in downtown Baltimore and slipped into an Armani suit, he knew he found his calling!
(As Mel Brooks put it in "High Anxiety", it's "a nice living".)
Please, though... do yourself a favor and don't mistake all six of these assholes for a groundswell of "diversity", within the modern fascist movement.
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Prefabfan
August 1, 2010 11:14 AM in reply to Barry Champlain
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greenmean
August 1, 2010 12:17 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
Well said Barry Champlain!!!
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jjdjjd
August 1, 2010 7:41 AM in reply to Viva!America!
i get it now. if they don't agree with you they are ignorant.
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chameleon
August 1, 2010 9:19 AM in reply to Viva!America!
Amen to that!!!!
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BruceBanner
July 31, 2010 10:23 PM
It helps to maintain their denial and repress their shame, so they can disregard the occasional pangs of conscience and get back to the work of hating a black president.
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 10:29 PM in reply to BruceBanner
We don't hate him because he's black. We hate him because he's a socialist stooge for the Trilateral Commission who tows the line for the Bush (CFR) agenda.
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kasinca
July 31, 2010 10:28 PM
So baggers invite racist speakers to their diversity rally to prove they are diversified. Nice move wingnuts.
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kasinca
July 31, 2010 10:29 PM
So baggers invite racist speakers to their diversity rally to prove they are diversified. Nice move wingnuts.
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SeattleJoe
July 31, 2010 10:37 PM
To paraphrase Jon Stewart, this will help the civil rights movement get back in touch with its white conservative roots.
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CityGuy
August 1, 2010 12:16 AM in reply to SeattleJoe
Co-sign that!
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Ginny in CO
July 31, 2010 10:38 PM
The Tea Party is getting so lame I was thinking it should be called the Gimp party.
But that would be an insult to the real Gimps.
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mcc
July 31, 2010 11:19 PM in reply to Ginny in CO
The Gimp is a terrible, terrible piece of software
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SchoolyT
August 1, 2010 8:23 AM in reply to mcc
Actually the new version of Gimp is very good. Very similar to Photoshop, but actually better - and free.
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andyvillager
August 1, 2010 11:02 AM in reply to Ginny in CO
It feels like it's safe to at least start calling them "tea-baggers" again.
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Squire T
July 31, 2010 11:12 PM
Its all rather sad, isn't it?
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Leatherwood
July 31, 2010 11:20 PM
David Webb appeared on Geraldo on July 31, 2010 and Geraldo asked him, “As African America move up the socio-economic ladder, when do they become white?”
Should this get edited out, it appeared on the 10:00pm EDT airing.
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Fried Chicken Lover
July 31, 2010 11:46 PM in reply to Leatherwood
...I do believe you've found a nomination for Dumbest Question Ever.
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 11:22 AM in reply to Fried Chicken Lover
No, I totally get it! You totally don't! :-P
Good on ya, Geraldo!
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
July 31, 2010 11:32 PM
Two million people all-American Tea Party patriots checked out the event's website. 1,999,500 understood from the site that black people might be attending.
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Rockridge
July 31, 2010 11:57 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
LOL!! FTW.
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DrDrGimmetheNews
August 1, 2010 9:25 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Or one person visited the site 2M times....
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fla_kracker
August 1, 2010 10:16 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Why funny ROFL
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fla_kracker
August 1, 2010 7:01 PM in reply to fla_kracker
Make that way
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 11:34 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
SNAP! Were I wearing a cap, it would be doffed... that is "Daily Show"-worthy, in my humble estimation!
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hoppycalif2
July 31, 2010 11:39 PM
So, the non-whites could be counted with 2 hands and a foot, meaning no more than 15 showed up. If you are generous and say there were 1500 there, that means the group is 1% minority. Way to go!! Or maybe you could be realistic and say there were 150 total there, so the group was 10% minority?
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August 1, 2010 12:11 AM
I wouldn't be found among these folks if they were the last people on earth. They'd be nice to me while in my presence and stab me in the back as soon as I walked away. After the way that they've shown that they feel about the president, I would be a fool to take my African American self to any event they are hosting. Some like this guy Webb are very good at living in a state of denial, but as someone who lived under segregation in this country and witnessed firsthand some of the same things that some of these tea partiers have said and done, there is no way I could be around some of them without doing/saying something that would end with my being permanently kicked out of the group. I can live without this kind of mess at this point in my life. Been there, done that. Any organization with any members of the KKK, Stormfront, Aryan Nation, and any other type of supremacist groups in it is not for me.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:39 AM in reply to Margie
How fortunate for you Margie that you feel that way. Because if you decided to go to Tea Party rallies your liberal friends would call you an Uncle Tom or worse for leaving the liberal plantation. Liberals will not allow you to attend or they will say you are not "authentic" or that you are ungrateful for all the liberalism has done for you.
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greenmean
August 1, 2010 12:24 PM in reply to alaric
alaric you're joking right?
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expat46
August 1, 2010 1:45 PM in reply to alaric
I agree with you that it's offensive to call someone an 'Uncle Tom' for their political views. Which is exactly what you're doing when you tell Margie that she's staying on the 'liberal plantation' by voting Dem.
I would also agree with you that the statement "the tea party is a racist organization" is false.
The question is would you agree with the statement "the tea party has some members who harbor racist views"?
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Seraph
August 2, 2010 4:47 PM in reply to expat46
The Tea Party tolerates, promotes and encourages members who harbor racist views.
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 10:36 PM in reply to Seraph
It must really stink to watch Obama crash your whole party in no time, huh?
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August 2, 2010 11:16 AM in reply to alaric
That's the third time in this thread that you have mentioned "Uncle Tom" while not a single one of the liberals posting here saying a word about it.
Very telling. Shame on you.
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clemenceau
August 1, 2010 12:32 AM
Uni-Tea?
More like Uni-Brow.
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FLRealist
August 1, 2010 1:11 AM in reply to clemenceau
I was thinking "uni-tard".
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RedMolly
August 2, 2010 10:11 AM in reply to FLRealist
+1
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August 1, 2010 12:49 AM
The wheels are coming off the tea party movement, as the groups turn on each other and the enthusiasm of participants fizzles out. When Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, and Carly Fiorina all lose in November, that's be the end of it, with most media outlets running "what went wrong" pieces after the election, and Fox News commentators suggesting some liberal conspiracy derailed it.
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August 2, 2010 11:17 AM in reply to Ron
Agreed, Ron!
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 10:41 PM in reply to Ron
The only place their wheels fall off is on this site.
You Jackass Democrats are on your way down!!!
Obama shot you in the nuts.
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August 1, 2010 1:03 AM
I have been fascinated by this Tea Party stuff since the NAACP flap several weeks ago. This is entertainment at it's finest!
It is so gratifying to find my original thoughts have been confirmed!
When I read their blogs, I just wanna be able to use spell check!
Thanks for the hours of guffaws, teabaggers, keep it up you are truely great(big,fat,)americans! ROFL
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Mrwilson1
August 1, 2010 1:04 AM
Well, I think the dems have finally been successful. All the tea party is talking about isd that they are not racists. Soon they will be asking are we racists or not?
Its about time the Dems did something devious
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August 1, 2010 1:12 AM
MrWilson: The Dems need not get their hands dirty. Nor will anybody else have to. The Tea Partiers will be recognized for their outstanding comedy talents and praised for unifying ALL Americans in laughter!
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jonez
August 1, 2010 1:29 AM
Hey black lady, wake up, the teabags are not about taxation.
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JasonsRobot
August 1, 2010 2:06 AM in reply to jonez
Exactly. They're about wanting to force Christian 'laws' on all citizens. They'd gladly pay more taxes if they could have required prayer and teach creationism as fact in public schools. Plus, of course, they want to make sure whites stay in charge even as we (the whites) slip into the minority.
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Prefabfan
August 1, 2010 11:17 AM in reply to JasonsRobot
Do you know what, you have nailed it on THE HEAD!!!
We should call the Tea Party "the apartheid party".
That's what they are!!! I knew they sounded familiar..
What was the name of the apartheid party in South Africa? That's what we should call them!!!!!!
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 10:44 PM in reply to Prefabfan
You mean Palestine? That's the real apartheid.
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August 2, 2010 11:20 AM in reply to JasonsRobot
Christian "Laws" but NOT Christian Values (like caring for the poor, living a humble life, sharing with those who are less fortunate that you, etc.)
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lovethesinner
August 1, 2010 2:25 AM
May we surmise that one of the reasons turnout was so low was that it was advertised that people of color were welcome to attend?
Epic fail doesn't even begin to describe what they accomplished today.
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edgery
August 1, 2010 2:40 AM
For all the mileage Breitbart is getting off the Journolist meme, I guess he'll be going after the Tea Party consultant who anonymously wrote the latest Playboy article [http://bit.ly/bD3Siw] chronicling the back-channel coordination among the organizers and movers of the conservative "cabal." Because, you know, goose gander...
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It's Pat
August 1, 2010 10:50 AM in reply to edgery
I just read that link and encourage others to do sa as well. Some things of note:
The left/Democrats need to find some common ground, iron out areas where they can agree and come together to fight this. I thingk the t-people "movement" is a front; these operatives and members of the GOP are using them as a means for something quite bigger than what's publicly being portrayed.
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slb
August 1, 2010 12:48 PM in reply to It's Pat
This is why whenever a teapartier does something that gets negative coverage, they are so quick to say "it must be a plant." That's what they are planning to do, and they figure the other side must be doing the same thing. Or eveb if they're not actually doing the same thing, then accusing them of it will reduce the coverage to "both sides are guilty."
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expat46
August 1, 2010 3:42 PM in reply to It's Pat
Agreed! This is a must read. Here's another good quote.
Veeerrrryy Sexy!
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Dave Adams
August 1, 2010 4:25 PM in reply to It's Pat
Someone is paying the salaries of these people; paying them to do what they do. Ands it's always odd to me that thos people have plenty of money to spend on fucking over other people and at the same time resent having to pay taxes at all.
Or would that simply be another definition of the word "sociopath"?
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slb
August 1, 2010 4:40 AM
They blamed a traffic jam on I-95 for keeping people away
This is as lame as saying they were re-scheduling their convention because they suddently realized that it was hot in the Nevada desert in the summertime.
There is always a traffic jam on I-95! It's pretty much one big traffic jam from Fredericksburg all the way to Boston. GMAFB.
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fpie
August 1, 2010 5:19 AM in reply to slb
Yeah but that's cause that I-95 is run by the Guvmint! Git yer dirty librul Guvmint hands offen our public roads!
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Early Out
August 1, 2010 9:12 AM in reply to fpie
The Libertarians would say that all highways should be private. Of course, without the power of eminent domain, a private company trying to build a highway from Florida to Maine would have to spend so much money buying out resistant landowners, the tolls would amount to many, many thousands of dollars per mile.
So, things like the interstate highways would be economically impractical, and would never have been built in the first place. Without a decent transporation network, we'd still have a subsistence agrarian economy. The U.S. would be a gigantic version of Somalia.
Rand Paul for Warlord!
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slb
August 1, 2010 4:41 AM
"The crowd today was more diverse than I've seen at a tea party rally."
Well, that's probably true. But it's not saying much.
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sangsue
August 1, 2010 5:32 AM
I think drawing attention to their racist party won't work as a direct attack. We keep hoping that the more John Birch/KKK thety show themselves to me that it will frighten people into sanity but the truth is, it's the African American elephant in the room. It's a strange balancing act but what I've figured out is, people want to have racist ideas and hatred but they want a different word for it. As long as they can call their hatred of Obama anything but hating the N in the White House, they can claim that they're not racist. Because of that, all those other "non racists" will vote Tea Party (because we all know that it's no longer the Republican Party if the most moderate member is Lindsay) to vote in a real Merkin who will impeach Obama and save them. But not for his race of course.
The real fear, the reason for the Arizona and anti immigrant (which is really anti Mexican) bs is that soon white Americans won't be the majority and it scares them to death. So they'll vote for someone to ensure that never happens. It's amazing how they'll look past all the crazy scaryness if it means Obama will be gone however it has to be.
So don't count your chickens yet. I guarantee that we'll be hearing about the impeachment procedings for Obama the day after the election because that's why those tea partiers are being elected.
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Silence
August 1, 2010 8:43 AM in reply to sangsue
If Caucasians become the population minority, that should grant them entitlements, freebies and the perks that come with "victim-hood".
Sounds like a good deal.
Or......does minority really mean something else?
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OhioMan
August 1, 2010 6:23 AM
These people are so lame. I can't believe we spend as much time as we do talking about teabaggers and $illy $arah. They are such a tiny minority.
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slb
August 1, 2010 12:36 PM in reply to OhioMan
You don't have to be a majority to dominate the political conversation. You only have to have a very big megaphone.
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JohnW1141
August 1, 2010 8:12 AM
I think we see the classic straw man here. I don't know of any large number of people who are accusing the Tea Party of being racist. I think the charge is more that there are racists in the Tea Party, but that shouldn't be surprising, racists permeate our society.
Defending themselves against a charge possibly no one is accusing them of is another way to give them the aura of victimhood something they wallow in.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:31 AM in reply to JohnW1141
Are you seriously playing stupid? MSNBC Kommentators have said the Tea Party is racist.That is the single biggest characterization about the Tea Party in comment section of libtard sites.Gimme a break.
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RyanWV
August 1, 2010 10:20 AM in reply to alaric
I don't watch Keith O. but from the DC rallies it's pretty clear that there's a lot of racist angst in that group of folk, but then again I'm from West Virginia and there's a lot of closeted (and not so closeted) racist angst there too. Sure the group as a whole and their movement isn't tied to any racist agenda but they are a a magnet for some racist crazies.
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JohnW1141
August 1, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to alaric
alaric asks:
"Are you seriously playing stupid?"
I would actually BE stupid if I accepted as serious someone who uses warped juvenile language, such as; "Kommentators."
Give me the quotes.
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August 1, 2010 8:21 AM
Ce triste, n'est pas?
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Helpcomputer
August 1, 2010 11:40 AM in reply to Mike
Hey! Take yer fancy Paris talk somewhere else. This is Amerkuh, and we don't take too kindly to you eleetes coming here to Tea Party Country.
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Joanne
August 1, 2010 8:56 AM
Most of the comments by those who demean the tea party show that they have no clue what we're about. Perhaps this is due to reporting by the mainstream media. Ever heard of Journolist? The "R" word is being overused and is a deplorable strategy deliberately and deplorably used by the left.
Mary Frances Berry, Professor of American Social Thought and History, U. Penn. said:" Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one's opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."
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Early Out
August 1, 2010 9:15 AM in reply to Joanne
The Tea Party has demonstrated, over and over again, that it has no clue what it's about. You can't blame the media for that - in fact, the more accurately the media report on the Tea Party, the more obvious it becomes that it's a collection of very confused, frightened people who've been sold a bill of goods.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:25 AM in reply to Early Out
It's obvious you don't know anything about the Tea Party except what MSNBC tells you. The Tea Party has a diverse set of concerns over the direction of the country. The one thing they agree on is that this democrat congress and this presidents policies are bad for this nation. They want fiscal responsibility and the gov't to encourage more personal responsibility and let the corporate world suffer the consequences of their own stupidity.
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DrDrGimmetheNews
August 1, 2010 9:34 AM in reply to alaric
So where were you during Bush's 2 largely unfunded wars, tax cuts increasing the deficits, and deregulation that led to the financial meltdown?
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benjoya
August 1, 2010 9:36 AM in reply to DrDrGimmetheNews
IOKIYAR. duh.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 9:38 AM in reply to alaric
Its obvious you don't know much about MSNBC other than what FOX tells you. MSNBC has a diverse set of opinions over the direction of the country. The one thing they agree on is that a congress and a presidents policies are bad for this nation. They want fiscal responsibility and people should suffer the consequences of their own stupidity.
That was fun.
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fkaZk0sm0
August 1, 2010 12:22 PM in reply to Squire T
ha. good stuff.
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Early Out
August 1, 2010 9:59 AM in reply to alaric
The Tea Party wants the President and Congress to adopt a set of fiscal policies that would almost certainly bring on a repeat of the Great Depression. Sure, let's rein in Government spending, stop pumping stimulus money into the economy, and let mega-corporations and banks fail. It worked so well for Hoover, and again in 1936, when FDR foolishly rolled over to the demands of the Republicans. What we got, in 1937, was the worst year of the Depression.
You people are a danger to yourselves, since you'd be the ones most likely to suffer in an economic collapse. The rich pigs who are pulling your marionette strings would sail through it without pain. In fact, they'd just get richer.
The Tea Partiers are self-destructive morons.
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Fried Chicken Lover
August 1, 2010 5:20 PM in reply to Early Out
...how about not letting mega-corporations exist in the first place?
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Bwakfat
August 1, 2010 6:37 PM in reply to Fried Chicken Lover
Or at least limit them to a human lifespan, like the wise folks who founded this country did.
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slb
August 1, 2010 1:09 PM in reply to alaric
The one thing they seem to agree on is hatred for President Obama. And they were expressing that hatred even before the man took office. I cannot for the life of me figure out what he has done to deserve that level of hatred. His policies are not so very different from any of the other presidents we have had for the last 30 years. So why all this hatred directed at him?
Part of it is party. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton also receive plenty of vitriol far above the level that you would expect from the small degree of policy difference they have with the Republican presidents from the last 30 years. But the level that is directed against Obama is far more than either Carter or Clinton received. I don't remember anyone saying about either Carter or Clinton "I want to see him fail." Not fail at any particular objective, mind you, just overall fail. So what could account for the remaining difference?
Sorry, but the only other significant difference I see between Obama and the presidents who came before him is the color of his skin.
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h0db
August 1, 2010 5:35 PM in reply to alaric
There is no "Tea Party." There are a collection of groups organizing under the TP banner (while knifing each other) to tap the sizable population of white, over-40-year-old folks who are united by their common anger and fear.
I understand the anger--Wall Street casino operators implode the economy, and not only does nobody go to jail, we give them billions and run up multi-trillion $ deficits.
But they have only dumbshit solutions while serving as a magnet for birthers, truthers, and every other whack group.
At the end of the day, they are lambs for Republican political consultants to manipulate to regain the House and the Senate in November. After this election cycle, there will be no "Tea Party" in any organized or sustainable sense. They will be discarded by the Repubs as fast as they were tagged and manipulated during the implosion of the McCain campaign in 2008.
They aren't any more racist that any other group of over-40-year-old white people.
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Cliff Hendroval
August 2, 2010 10:20 AM in reply to h0db
+1
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Commie Dearest
August 2, 2010 4:17 PM in reply to h0db
+2
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nanorich
August 1, 2010 9:19 AM in reply to Joanne
So what are you teabaggers about Joanne? Never actually seen a tbagger troll who actually had any familiarity with the ideological foundations of their "beliefs" other than "Don't Know Much About History..."
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VAsouthernliberal
August 1, 2010 10:18 AM in reply to Joanne
I have do have a clue what you are about. I have lived in the South all my life and been around racisim. And believe you me the tea party is all about racisim!
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 12:15 PM in reply to Joanne
Have you ever wondered why Breitbart's whole "Journolist scandal" has no legs?
Stop at the word "Brietbart". Your angry buddy there screwed the pooch, with Sherrod.
So you can maybe forgive even the most GOP/Beltway-friendly media if they don't just blindly run with a story, derived from extremely selective editing, falsified as to its meaning, and remarketed to the exactly wrong audience. Becasue, you know, they've never seen this happen before. In the last three weeks. From Brietbart. Or anything.
Screwed. The. Pooch, sweetheart.
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fkaZk0sm0
August 1, 2010 12:28 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
because fool me once (acorn), shame on shame on you. fool me, you can't get fooled again (sherrod - oops).
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slb
August 1, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to Joanne
Mary Frances Berry is welcome to her opinion, but it is only that: her opinion. Those who point to racist overtones in things that are said and done by some at the tea party rallies are doing no more than speaking truth, and it's an ugly truth that needs to be exposed. There's no strategy to falsely paint the tea party as racist. Some of the signs and slogans that appear at rallies ARE racist. Some of what has been said by leaders of those groups IS racist.
Democrats would be happy to talk about joblessness and how the Congressional Republicans are doing everything in their power to make the situation more painful to try to gain political advantage for the November elections.
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Lestatdelc
August 1, 2010 4:55 PM in reply to Joanne
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FreemanW
August 1, 2010 7:39 PM in reply to Joanne
Would that be Republican, Reprobate, or Racist?
. . . which turns out to be a rather useless measure since the GOP has become synonymous with race-baiting and racism.
Probably a better discussion since no one affiliated with the Tea Party or the GOP has the slightest demonstrable clue when it comes to job creation policy.
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JohnW1141
August 1, 2010 9:26 AM
My view of the Tea Party is that 99% are politically unsophisticated, easily led, and misinformed. This 99% is being used by the top 1%, people like Dick Armey, the Koch Brothers and
Americans for Prosperity, a Club for Growth look-a-like.
The 99% are going to build the gallows the 1% will use to hang them.
Here's a challenge for any journalist who wants to take it up.
Go to the next Tea Party gathering and wander through the crowd, picking people at random, and interviewing them on
issues facing the country.
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alaric
August 1, 2010 9:33 AM in reply to JohnW1141
Most libtards only know what they've been told by MSNBC and sites like this and kos.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 9:42 AM in reply to alaric
Haven't seen much counter evidence. You have any? Please share.
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Jeff Boatright
August 1, 2010 9:55 AM in reply to alaric
Gee, Al, you keep telling us we don't know anything about the Tea Party. Do you? If so, please tell us: What is the Tea Party about? You keep saying it's something about fiscal responsibility and personal responsibility. What do those mean to you or to the Tea Party? Beyond simple-minded platitudes, I honestly don't think anyone in the TP knows. Simple-minded platitudes don't solve problems.
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cindyperry2009
August 1, 2010 10:29 AM in reply to Jeff Boatright
What it means to them is more bush tax cuts for us
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VAsouthernliberal
August 1, 2010 10:28 AM in reply to alaric
Sorry, I know what racism is. I have lived in the South all my life. I do know what racism is! And ,let me tell you, the Tea Party is all about racisim! I don't need MSNBC to tell me!
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RyanWV
August 1, 2010 10:31 AM in reply to alaric
Alaric, your fantasy visions of liberals huddled around screens watching only MSNBC, and Daily Kos for their news are equivalent to someone saying that all conservatives only got news from Fox and Rush Limbaugh. If you want to try to make a point the best way to do it isn't belittling people. How about you stop name calling and tell us just what the Tea Party is about?
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 12:23 PM in reply to alaric
Here comes my quarterly invocation of this question, to which I never seem to get an answer:
How is it that you people still believe in "libtards", when literally every survey ever conducted on the subject shows that liberals are brighter, have better education, etc. etc.?
Or is this just more of, "... because I feel it's true!"?
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biglith
August 1, 2010 12:28 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
Every right winger I've ever met has the consciousness of a slug. Just anecdotal but that's my perception.
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slb
August 1, 2010 1:15 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
See, when people use language like that, it tells me they are not really interest in engaging in meaningful discussion, they are only trying to provoke irritation.
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JohnW1141
August 1, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to alaric
alaric,
look up "projection."
And stop showing off your PhD by using words like "libtards" and
"Kommentators".
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August 2, 2010 11:54 AM in reply to alaric
"Most libtards only know what they've been told by MSNBC and sites like this and kos." - alaric
Projection. See, our friend alaric here only gets news thru Fox and Rush so he/she assumes that everyone only watches the "official network" of their party. Psychology 101. What he/she misses is that MSNBC isn't even available to most people.
This is just another reason that real debate cannot be held with your average tea party supporter. No facts just cute FNC one-liners like "libtards." No substance, just anger.
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Lestatdelc
August 1, 2010 5:00 PM in reply to JohnW1141
Tea Party = Reform Party 2.0. It was initiated by an astroturf stunt by FreedomWork and has attracted the fringe that has perpetually existed, but is being now portrayed as some populist movement. It isn't. It is the same sort of ad hoc collection of political fringes, mostly form the right, who gravitated to the Reform Party in the 1990s.
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JohnW1141
August 1, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to Lestatdelc
Lestat,
agreed. Check this out from Wiki;
The Know-Nothing movement was a nativist American political movement of the 1840s and 1850s. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, who were often regarded as hostile to Anglo-Saxon values and controlled by the Pope in Rome. Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, it strove to curb immigration and naturalization, though its efforts met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant males of British lineage over the age of twenty-one. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class and entirely Protestant membership fragmented over the issue of slavery. Most ended up joining the Republican Party by the time of the 1860 presidential election.[1][2]
The Know Nothing Tea Party label would describe the vast majority of them.
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slb
August 1, 2010 7:54 PM in reply to JohnW1141
What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. --Ecclesiastes 1:9
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DrDrGimmetheNews
August 1, 2010 9:41 AM
So according to Andre Harper (and others), "The more liberals talk about race, the more they show who the real racists are." Does that mean if we just don't talk about something it doesn't exist? Let's try that. NOBODY talk about the deficit. *poof* Did it work?
Hmmm.... The only way to combat racism is to recognize it, talk about it, and take suitable action to combat it. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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sangsue
August 3, 2010 5:48 AM in reply to DrDrGimmetheNews
So does that mean if I'm raped and press charges, I'm the real rapist?
Does that mean if my mother's house is robbed and she tells the police that she's the real robber?
If my sister is killed and it's reported does that mean I'm the real killer?
If my father's car is vandalized is he the real vandal?
Saying that someone suffering from racist acts is the real racist makes about as much sense.
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mjcc1987
August 1, 2010 9:46 AM
Mom told me that we had a colored person on her father's third cousin side a while back, so I am the diviristy today
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Joanne
August 1, 2010 10:37 AM
It is interesting that when the left has no legitimate response to issues, they fall back on either (1) blaming Bush, or (2) using the race card. I proudly carried a sign stating "GIVE US BACK OUR COUNTRY" in the 9/12 protest and will continue to carry it. Somehow, it's being construed now to be a racist slogan. HELLO!????! For the very narrow-minded left, let me explain what it means...it means that I deplore the direction in which this country is moving -- towards European style socialism, which, by the way, Europe is attempting to move AWAY from. Our movement has absolutely NOTHING to do with race...it is about a desire to get back to the visions of our Founding Fathers. We want LESS GOVERNMENTAL CONTROL, MORE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, and ADHERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION which is being trampled upon by this administration. If the left wants to interpret this as racist, then that's THEIR problem, not mine! I refuse to be cowed by their bullying tactics which have been exposed as an attempt to marginalize our movement.
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Early Out
August 1, 2010 10:43 AM in reply to Joanne
The Bush Administration imposed more Government control, engaged in more fiscal irresponsibility (how do you think we got into this mess?), and did more Constitution trampling than any other administration before or since. Where were you then?
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jeffgee
August 1, 2010 10:59 AM in reply to Early Out
Doncha know? The primary motivation for the wingers is IOKIYAR. Dudn't matter whut Dubya did. He wuz keepin' us safe and makin' us all rich with his tax cuts.
Well, not all of us. Mostly the Bush Pioneers and their peers. Cheney said that deficits don't matter. As long as his party was in power.
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FlownOver
August 1, 2010 11:05 AM in reply to Joanne
The Wingers ignored the deficits Bush ran up. The point of bringing up Bush's fiscal irresponsibility is to note this: either the Wingers were wrong to ignore their own profligacy under Bush, or they're wrong to complain about current deficit increases, or they're just a bunch of hypocrites. You tell me which.
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Prefabfan
August 1, 2010 11:27 AM in reply to FlownOver
You have to admit it is ingenious, although dishonest, and slimy, to combat the fact that Bush drove the country into ruin, by claiming the Lib's mantra is "Blame Bush for everything".
Because in fact he is responsible for all our misery, except maybe acne.
911 he was asleep at the switch, could have prevented it with more skill.
Patriot Act, our freedoms gone in a minute.
Financial ruin from two wars, and lowered taxes on the rich.
HE IS IN FACT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BAD GOING ON.
So the right came up with"Blame Bush" as if that somehow proves its NOT Bush's fault. Sophistry and its finest.
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Avvocato
August 1, 2010 11:56 AM in reply to Prefabfan
But the Dems are complicit in many of Bushite's actions. A pox on both their houses.
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nanorich
August 1, 2010 11:22 AM in reply to Joanne
Joanne,
I realize you don't believe Democrats and minorities are real Americans...but for the record....
you are part of a marginalized minority which even Independents and Swing voters consider batshit crazy....and your musings here do nothing to counter that impression.
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Helpcomputer
August 1, 2010 11:49 AM in reply to Joanne
Can you explain to me who exactly took your country away? Or who needs to "give it back"?
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slb
August 1, 2010 1:42 PM in reply to Helpcomputer
Also, I want to know just how it was "taken away." We had an election that brought in a Democratic president and Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress. Does an election constitute "taking the country away"? Don't teapartiers believe in elections? They're specified in the Constitution that they keep saying they want to stick to.
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nanorich
August 1, 2010 5:59 PM in reply to slb
Teabaggers are under the impression that with their static 20% of voters, they represent a majority of the population.
Yeah, in addition to their hilarious ignorance regarding history, they are also lousy at math.
Must be Home Skool...
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slb
August 1, 2010 7:57 PM in reply to nanorich
They're using Karl Rove's math. You know -- THE math. The math that predicted Republican gains in the 2006 election.
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TheIronCage
August 1, 2010 12:39 PM in reply to Joanne
Ok dumbass, here we go. First, if you want to go back to the "vision of our founding fathers," then be prepared to lose your right to vote. Your nomenclature is Joanne, so I'm assuming you're a woman. Also be prepared to reinstate slavery. You're lamenting the loss of a place where only white male landowners could vote and hold office. That's a huge segment of the population you want to disempower. Such is the world when it's designed by unelected slave owners.
Also, the Constitution that we use today is not the first version that the country used (and I'm not talking about amendments added over the years). As it stands, the Constitution places a fairly high amount of power in the federal government. Just look at the tenth amendment. Essentially, the leftover power is given to the states. It's also important to note that federal law presides over state law. That's how it was designed. In the first version, more power was given to the states due to a fear of a federal abuse of power. This one failed, because the country's legal infrastructure was far more unstable and couldn't provide a comprehensive legislative structure. Federal power isn't evil. Taxes aren't evil. Laws aren't evil. They're necessary for civilization to exist in any pleasant form.
It's also worth noting that some of the country's founders actually wanted a monarchy. Like England. They wanted a fucking king. Keep in mind that these were real people with real disagreements. They weren't this consolidated unit that had one vision and one vision only for how the country should be, which is what it seems like you crazy fucks imagine. Facts matter.
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fkaZk0sm0
August 1, 2010 12:43 PM in reply to Joanne
joanne,
a few questions for you since you seem willing to discuss what the tea party means to you (and i'd rather not be guilty of only knowing what msnbc and daily kos tell me about the tea party as i think alaric accuses):
1) (a)how do you define so-called 'european socialism' (what does it look like, what are it's main characterists)?
(b)what specifically don't you like about so-called 'european style socialism' (what are the actual outputs and outcomes you disagree with)?
2) (a)what specific actions have the government taken to move toward this so-called 'european socialism'?
(b)when did these specific actions occur?
(c)what actions do you believe the government should have taken instead?
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fkaZk0sm0
August 1, 2010 12:47 PM in reply to fkaZk0sm0
'characteristics'
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jw1
August 1, 2010 12:58 PM in reply to fkaZk0sm0
Dang.
Thought I liked my post; till I read yours.
Far more instructive amid forced introspection.
I defer.
jw1
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Barry Champlain
August 1, 2010 12:49 PM in reply to Joanne
"Give us back..." FROM WHOM?
That would be The Question.
Because the people you felt took "your" country away from you, committed their dastardly act on a Tuesday in 2008, when American democracy spread its wings and did its thing.
You didn't agree with it. Did I have a choice, when I didn't agree with the result of the 2004 presidential election? In your dreams... and I remember well the "Get over it! HAR HAR HAR!" from your end of the playpen. But we never said our country was "taken" from us, just because we didn't like the way the system played it out.
You dildonic morons, on the other hand, feel entitled to have it go your way, always, because in your right-wing bubble you don't so much as hear a discouraging word. That you actually could have "lost an election" (the very heart of what America is supposed to be all about), simply does not compute. Ergo, we took your country away.
And I also don't recall any members of my party, after losing the presidency in '04, running for office and admonishing us disgruntled Libs that if we couldn't get satisfaction at the polls next time, we might have to dip-into our "Second Amendment remedies". The ones about guns. See also: Sharron Angle.
Somehow, I don't think the Bush administration would have dismissed such a dog whistle from a Dem as "free speech". See also: "treason".
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slb
August 1, 2010 1:21 PM in reply to Joanne
Very pretty words. How does all that translate into actual policy? "More fiscal responsiblity," for example. What policy proposals are you making to achieve that? Are you willing to allow the majority of the Bush tax cuts to expire in order to reduce the budget deficit? Because if they are not allowed to expire, those tax cuts constitute a significant part of the projected deficit from here forward.
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Cheryl44
August 1, 2010 2:20 PM in reply to Joanne
Okay, here's your country back. And here's the bill.
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Dadzilla
August 1, 2010 5:24 PM in reply to Joanne
Joanne, your response here is in part why your side will fail.
You see it's not about just blaming Bush, it's about a set of failed political theories. Conservationism has failed.
For all the populist jingo, your slogans are anything but populist or useful. "GIVE US BACK OUR COUNTRY" makes for a nice bumper sticker, but you can't run a dog pound much less a nation with it.
And if we are to discuss what we deplore it's that the mile wide, inch deep sloganeering is considered by some to be counted as deep political discussion. I have no doubt William F. Buckley is turning in his grave at the thought of the republican lead populist wannabe Tea Party. Indeed, the Tea Party is little more than intellectual midgets led by the more craven and cynical of the extreme right of the Republican Party.
Your disingenuous attempt to deny the obvious regarding the Tea Party and the race baiting it employ's is laughable on it's face. Perhaps if you and your pals could quit passing around emails with watermelons and buckets of chicken we might start to believe that.
The Tea Party fiscal theories make Libertarians look sane, and that takes some doing.
I an quite happy, even glad you "refuse to be cowed". In fact I encourage you to speak your mind. Your own words are the petard your hoisted by.
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nanorich
August 1, 2010 6:33 PM in reply to Joanne
Jesus, Joanne....
get a fucking grip.
You can't have a country just because you are stupid and rude and annoying.
That might work in your personal life, but it doesn't work in macro-politics.
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FreemanW
August 1, 2010 7:49 PM in reply to Joanne
,blockquote> We want LESS GOVERNMENTAL CONTROL, MORE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, and ADHERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION which is being trampled upon by this administration.
Just where the fuck were you and the rest of your drooling moron shit-for-brains Tea Party buddies during the Bush Presidency?
OH! That's right, Bush was caucasian so it was okay.
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dwjoae
August 2, 2010 10:47 PM in reply to FreemanW
The Obama Administration is the Bush agenda on the other side of the same coin. They all work for the CFR.
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cinesimon
August 2, 2010 4:55 AM in reply to Joanne
Tea bagger fiscal responsibility: 'keep my subsidies, keep my Medicare, keep spending, and cut my taxes. I want it all both ways, and I don't want to pay for it.
And yes, I really believe that's fiscally responsible.'
UUGGGG
Kiddo, it's not your silly sign. It's what you idiots say the sign means when asked. Most of you want to return to the days of segregation - I know you consider the era and what happened in it to be quite different, but that's our point. You want to simply ignore reality. You want to tell people who're not of European descent that back in the good old days, everything was fine. It wasn't. Your refusal to acknowledge that IS inherently racist - whether you agree or not.
I wonder if you've ever actually thought about what the term 'racist' actually means?
And your tired cliche about us "having nothing to fall back on" is rich - we have tons of ideas, and have been trying to implement them. You have about two, and lots of rhetoric, hate and anti-everything: anti science, anti civil rights, anti constitution, anti everything but what directly affects you - but only what obviously affects you. Anything that may affect you indirectly of course has no relevance, unless of course you find out it may eventually affect you - then IT'S ON WITH THE RAGE!
And if you haven't noticed, you're not winning on policy, you're getting people angry by pretending that white people are victims. But hey! YOU don't talk about race! Just like Mark Williams doesn't right?
Just like Glen Beck doesn't, right? Just like Limbaugh doesn't, right?
Your complete and utter ignorance is just pathetic.
But run along now, time to play the victim with all that fabricated evidence and rage!
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sean
August 1, 2010 10:48 AM
Were many uni-teabaggers in the crowd off-white or ivory?
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Steaming Pile
August 1, 2010 6:05 PM in reply to sean
This time of year, they're a rosy pink, mostly from not wearing their sunblock.
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jw1
August 1, 2010 11:09 AM
Geez Joanne,
Switch to decaf (hit CAPS LOCK again) already.
First? It's not 'your country' to begin with. It's everyone's.
Your sense of 'entitlement' is quite rich.
Your mindset is narrow. Your view of recent history is stunted.
Simply? You're pissed Ross Perot turned out to be a nut.
As for 'marginalizing your movement'? It never left the margins. The press you receive is actually doing progressive bidding for liberal tickets nationwide.
The Tea Party candidates are actually cleaving away the 'R's' that have a chance to win.
So, in essence, you are doing the job in the primaries that our $$ won't have to-- in the general elections.
Beacause your candidates can't win in genral elections. You are too angry. The center doesn't 'buy' angry.
Joanne-- have a good day! Sounds like you need one.
jw1
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Helpcomputer
August 1, 2010 11:53 AM
The Tea Party puppet masters got what they wanted from this rally: video footage of minorities on a stage saying that the Tea Party isn't racist. Fox News will rerun those ten minutes of speeches ad nauseum for the next two weeks. "See? No racism here. It's that damned liberal media lying to you again."
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Avvocato
August 1, 2010 11:55 AM
300 people and still the MSM gives this "movement" headlines. Proud to be a Philly resident today. We can sniff frauds kilometers away!
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PollyJunkie
August 1, 2010 12:13 PM
That's something.
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TheIronCage
August 1, 2010 12:19 PM
This is so ridiculous. It's like a father that beats his kids buying them gifts in an attempt to make amends. Shallow and transparent. If they don't want to be seen as racist, then maybe they shouldn't say racist things. How can they even claim innocence when this much controversy exists?
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Teri Adams
August 1, 2010 1:14 PM
"I hope it has taken away any idea that the tea party is racist," Terry Adams of the Independence Hall Tea Party, a co-sponsor of the event, said. "The crowd today was more diverse than I've seen at a tea party rally."
"It's a start," she said.
Evan, I said there were more black Americans at this Tea Party than at any of OUR groups other Tea Parties, including the head of an NAACP local chapter.
I then said I hope it takes away SOME of the FALSE idea that we are racists.
And I began and ended the interview with, "It's a start."
Of course I made many other comments, including the fact that "the left has been calling the right racist for many years. It's a tired, old, political tactic."
I will add that the truth is completely the opposite.
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armass
August 1, 2010 1:40 PM in reply to Teri Adams
What a complete denial of history. It is the right wing in the South that fought for generations to preserve segregation and who are now the core of the Republican party. And if you think the racist strain that ran through the South for hundreds of years just suddenly evaporated because of the Civil Rights Act, then you are not dealing with reality. These racists are naturally drawn to the angry, hate-filled tea party movement.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 4:17 PM in reply to Teri Adams
You know, I honestly think that the number of black people at your event is almost irrelevant. The real point is that a major event promoting diversity was widely promoted and then roundly ignored by your own side. People were asked to go to a diversity event, and the tea party people simply were not interested in going. Go to a meeting where hey are able to wave horrible signs around, hell yeah. So to a meeting with a more positive message vis a vis blacks, uh, no interest there.
That's why I said above its rather sad. To misquote St James "By my actions, you shall know my faith." You probably were genuine, but the movement is not. And you should have canned Andrew Braitbart's appearance. The fact you didn't gives the impression you didn't find anything of his objectionable, which shows how used you are to the vile stuff he comes out with and think its ordinary.
You know, I have been drawing more and more comparisons with the Teabaggers, and the "countryside alliance" in england a few years back. In every piece of literature it was said this was an organization to promote the couses of the people in the country. People went on interviews saying that it was all about the whole spectrum of issues facing country people. But what was the only issue the leadership ever campaigned on or lobbied government about? Fox hunting. That's it. Rich people chasing foxes around. That's the only issue the leadership was interested in. Eventually the whole movement dissolved leaving the country people worse off than ever. But I think the ban on fox hunting got lifted so hey. Ordinary people co-opted into a movement that's used by people at the top to further their own agenda at the expense of those very people.
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JEP07
August 1, 2010 4:42 PM in reply to Squire T
" I honestly think that the number of black people at your event is almost irrelevant."
Then don't call it a DIVERSITY even. OK.?
That diversity should be apparent in any gathering, reflecting the population as a whole, and they have o throw an actual "diversity event" but still get no diversity.
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fkaZk0sm0
August 1, 2010 5:34 PM in reply to JEP07
i think the author's point was that the number of black folks who came out to support the diversity event is less relevant than the number of white folks who came out for the diversity event. as a way of saying, how little diversity there is in the tea party isn't as important as how little support for even the idea of diversity there is in the tea party.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 7:27 PM in reply to fkaZk0sm0
Yeah, you're right. I phrased it badly though.
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Squire T
August 1, 2010 4:32 PM in reply to Teri Adams
On another note, I want to commend you on at least making the attempt to set something like this up. At least you did try.
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Subliminability
August 1, 2010 1:24 PM
Diversity ... from the moderately overweight to the morbidly obese.
Strike that.
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saguaro
August 1, 2010 1:25 PM
From what I gather, Tea partiers are indeed diverse. They range from angry to super angry white males, from 40 year old angry - 80 years old angry, from 40 year old super angry to 80 years old super angry, from all the way from Louisiana to Georgia, and from 40 yeas old super angry who like kkk white to 80 years old super angry who like kkk white.
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Pope Ratzo
August 1, 2010 2:14 PM
I understand Uncle Ruckus is a loyal tea party member. (see "Boondocks")
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LJG
August 1, 2010 2:53 PM
Brace yourself: This fall a black Tea Party sympathizer (Tim Scott) will be elected in South Carolina's First Congressional District. Progressives should be ready to respond. Sadly, the Democrats had a good candidate for this "leans-Republican" district, but too many people didn't bother to vote in the primary, which allowed a local anti-union gun-nut "Democrat" (who also is Black) to win.
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psyclone
August 1, 2010 2:57 PM
The most hilarious thing to me is that there are more people commenting in this thread than even bothered to show up at this joke of a political rally.
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marcusmarcus
August 1, 2010 3:31 PM in reply to psyclone
Haha!
You're right. I guess we should expect FOX news to cover and promote this thread 24/7.
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Backcountry
August 1, 2010 3:42 PM in reply to marcusmarcus
Naaah. Faux will say tens of thousands of freedom loving people -- black joining hands with whites -- poured out for the Uni-Tea event in Philadelphia. Glen Beck will get all choked up. And we'll realize the fact that the Tea Party is a truly a multi-cultural diversity loving movement that would even join hands with Obama if he weren't such a socialist n----r.
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August 1, 2010 3:46 PM
When I think about this I reminded of that commercial with the Ole' Lady demanding, "Where's the beef?".... Well "WHERE'S THE DIVERSITY TEA PARTY?"
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Winston Smith
August 1, 2010 4:21 PM
I'm just finishing reading Krugman's The Conscience of a Liberal and the relationships he draws between movement conservatism and racism are very interesting, including the fact that Ronald Raygun chose Philadelphia, Mississippi to give his campaign kickoff speech, knowing full well that three civil rights workers were murdered there and what that meant to Southern racists, many of whom, no doubt, are now Teabagging.
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August 1, 2010 4:31 PM
The Tea Party movement has become what many ppl on the right loathe, a bunch of ppl in the minority whining about how they are being oppressed. I have yet to hear anyone of note say that the entire movement is racist. They have said over and over again that there are racist elements within it which was proven by the Mark Williams and his ouster from their national coalition. Instead they want us to believe that we deaf, dumb and blind and not seeing the elements of racism that we are seeing.
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Speedy
August 1, 2010 7:09 PM in reply to Scotty
Well what are you going to believe , their grating , whiny denials , or your own lying eyes? While I'm sure not all Teabaggers are racist , there are enough racially charged signs and rhetoric at their rallys that it would be hard for the so called non-racists in the crowd to miss.
And every time I hear one of those pathetic creatures whine that , "I want my country back" ,I remind them that the Confederate States of America was disolved in 1865 ,and I don't think it's coming back.
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bdog207
August 1, 2010 6:35 PM
A couple of Arab Muslims should have showed up. Then we could've seen just how "open" teabaggers really are to minorities.
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cmaukonen
August 1, 2010 8:25 PM
Imagine my (total lack of) surprise.
C
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MikeW67
August 1, 2010 8:55 PM
Best Part: Media Inc. continues to tout this sham like a mass uprising. Which makes ignorant GOP'ers who believe things like "the American People" are against health reform, also go brownnosing these RWNJ extremists.
Which usually fails at the polls. Elections are won in the middle.
- Balkingpoints / www
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MikeW67
August 1, 2010 9:06 PM
**They blamed a traffic jam on I-95 for keeping people away**
No, it's only the 1st. Tea Baggers don't get their Social Security checks until the 3rd. Set your NeoFascist rally dates accordingly... ;^)
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rollinnolan
August 1, 2010 9:08 PM
Another failed rally. Every time the tea party holds a rally it gets smaller and smaller. All we hear on the MSM is how strong they are and how they are going to take over congress in Nov. If the TP rallies are any indication we (Democrats) have nothing to worry about. Democrats are more inclined to vote now than ever, thanks to the tea party and their insane desire to take this country back in time.
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MikeW67
August 1, 2010 10:04 PM
** Terry Adams of the Independence Hall Tea Party, a co-sponsor of the event, said. "The crowd today was more diverse than I've seen at a tea party rally." **
They had all kinda colored shirts on... ;^)
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chrislib
August 1, 2010 10:48 PM
We need to form the Tea Pot Party. If we showed up at every teagagger rally with gallons of boiling water, the 'gaggers would simply dissolve.
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August 1, 2010 11:43 PM
For those who are interested, here are some more pics direct from Philadelphia:
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/phillybits/
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sherifffruitfly
August 2, 2010 12:52 AM
Obviously black folks didn't come because black folks are racist against white folks.
Durr.
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Dadzilla
August 2, 2010 1:57 AM
I've seen more people at a AC/DC cover band on a Wednesday night... Looks like Philly isn't a tea kind of town.
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dbl.r7711
August 2, 2010 2:50 AM
David Webb and Andrew Breitbart are actually twins. They have the same mother and different fathers. As a matter of fact, all of the Teabaggers are related in one form or another. Thay`re all "STUPID ASS WIPES"....
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lin
August 2, 2010 6:48 AM
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August 2, 2010 9:23 AM
"Ethnic diversity" is not a fundamental requirement for a political movement. Like it or not, the "Tea Party" is a political movement of the moment; unfortunately the longevity of such movements are quite short in duration.
It is not necessary for there to be a single minority in a group for that group to be racist or non-racist; I see the word racist being used by people who obviously clueless about the meaning of the word but feel that its the best bad word they know so they use it in every sentence like 2 year old children. A portion of the people who oppose the "Tea Party" movement are those who are envious of their stealing of the spotlight.
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tinsk
August 2, 2010 9:42 AM
The photos in this article alone give absolute proof of the bigotry of the tea freaks. It has to be statistically impossible to gather that many age 50+ obese people without setting a discriminatory criteria for exclusion. It looks like they have to show their AARP cards and step on an industrial scale in order to gain entrance.
I do see they made some diversity exceptions for allowing some younger people and kids. But my God, where do they find the parents of these kids? Shopping the "husky" department at WalMart?
If anybody is in need of good health insurance (And a diet), it's the tea party
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August 2, 2010 10:15 AM in reply to tinsk
What a load of crap. I have many black friends who come to Cleveland teaparty events, and the more, the merrier.
No one buys your sorts' "they're white, they must be racist!" b.s.
Well, no one but other libs, of course.
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tinsk
August 2, 2010 3:46 PM in reply to Jeffery
You need to learn to read. I did not comment on race but satirical in their "bigotry". Not on race but the seeming refusal to allow healthy weight people in your group. I have never in my life seen such a collection of misfit, overweight and morbidly obese losers organize in such protest. Well, perhaps with the one exception of when the local Sizzler canceled their 4pm, early bird all-you-can-eat buffet.
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poagueslanding
August 2, 2010 9:53 AM
I'm neither envious or overweight but this does show just how stupid US Citizens really are!
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poagueslanding
August 2, 2010 9:53 AM
I'm neither envious or overweight but this does show just how stupid US Citizens really are!
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August 2, 2010 10:13 AM
Hey libs, maybe you can make the gubment force the teaparty to adopt affirmative action. Nothing like forced diversity to make libtards feel even more self righteous and smug!
Heres what libs do: Keep minorities victimised and dependent on gubment, and any minorities who still manage to realise what slavery that really is, and acts accordingly, is ridiculed as being an uncle Tom.
Like these brave folks: http://www.americasblackshield.us/
Wake up, black America. The liberals are not your friends, they are your masters.
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August 2, 2010 10:36 AM in reply to Jeffery
LOL! Wow.
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August 2, 2010 10:46 AM
Does, "paranoia about Democratic politicians" translate into, "We are a front organization for the GOP" ??
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baznyc
August 2, 2010 10:47 AM
It's clear to me that the Tea Party Cult, is just another branch of the larger GOP Cult.
While I didn't agree with much of the old Conservative/GOP mindset, I respected their opinions, and we could discuss issues. The current lot is of one-mind, and if you don't think the way they do, you are the enemy... to be attacked.
Typical cult behavior. These are Cults, and it's very sad that the Media keeps boosting these people, as if they're of main-stream thought. Same with Palin and others like her. They won't speak to the Media, but the Media just keeps reporting their inane rantings, without any challenge. All very sad...
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Don
August 2, 2010 12:19 PM
Check the guy in the camera stand "saluting" during the pledge or national anthem or whatever it was....he is in a blue polo shirt.....and saluting in a military fashion....lke he is in uniform....I guess if he salutes like that he feels more American, even though it is completely wrong etiquette!
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August 2, 2010 12:38 PM
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August 2, 2010 1:17 PM
For a group who wants to "preserve the Constitution", a whole lot of teabaggers are real gung-ho about shredding the 14th and 17th amendments.
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Warof2010
August 2, 2010 2:57 PM
much much more to come..please stay tuned
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Warof2010
August 2, 2010 2:58 PM
much much more to come..please stay tuned
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August 2, 2010 3:38 PM
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Joseph Calling
August 2, 2010 4:31 PM
Let's see now .... 95% of blacks voted for Obama ... and that's not racist? (It certainly wasn't because he was more qualified that McCain — who by the way, I was not a big fan of, for whatever that's worth.)
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sangsue
August 3, 2010 5:51 AM in reply to Joseph Calling
Yet up until Obama was running for Pres, during every election before then they only had white people to vote for.
Oh I forgot, it's racist when it's a black person they're voting for. I also forgot that Obama took Queen Hillary's turn and he wasn't electable, yadda yadda.
If you can't tell the difference, it's because you don't want to.
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jeffgee
August 3, 2010 12:49 PM
Hilarious that to show diversity they pick raving lunatic Alan Keyes, the idiot that Obama trounced by double digits for a Senate seat in 2004.
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dwjoae
August 3, 2010 3:04 PM in reply to jeffgee
Keyes beat him in every debate, but Obama was already chosen.
Ron Paul was the only one qualified, but the media made sure the little CFR baboon got in.
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mmanion
August 3, 2010 4:20 PM
So the guy who was caught red-handed race-baiting in the Shirley Sherrod case and is now being sued by her for libel, this guy was a speaker at Teabagger 'diversity' event? Hmmm. Evidently, the Teabaggers wanted to show that their tent is large enough to accommodate out and proud D-bags. After all, D-baggery is just an alternative lifestyle for Andrew Breitbart. He was born a D-bag, he didn't 'choose' it. Hard to understand how an event with top-quality talent like Breitbart could possibly fail :-).
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