
This November, Californians will have their first chance in nearly 40 years to legalize marijuana. Will the initiative be a hit, or is legalization just a pipe dream?
Other states have tried and failed to legalize marijuana in recent years, but polls suggest an initiative on this November's California ballot may have a real chance of passing.
According to a Field poll (PDF) released Friday, voters in California narrowly oppose the state's Proposition 19, a ballot initiative that would legalize the cultivation and possession of marijuana for people 21 and older. Forty-eight percent of likely voters oppose Prop. 19; 44 percent support it.
A peek inside the poll's demographic breakdown reveals some interesting divides. Among voters who had heard of Proposition 19 before being surveyed, more support the measure (48 percent) than oppose it (44 percent). By large margins, Democrats, residents of San Francisco, and voters aged 18-29 back Proposition 19, while Republicans and voters 65 and older are against it.
Mark DiCamillo, the director of the Field Poll, said that this breakdown may be good news for legalization proponents. Because support for Proposition 19 is higher among those who had heard of the initiative than among those who hadn't, "proponents might say that all we need to do is educate them, and we might be able to win them over," DiCamillo said.
California has been through this before. In 1972, a similar initiative -- also named Proposition 19 -- failed by a 33-point margin. The state's latest ballot measure was spawned, at least in part, by California's current revenue crisis. In May of last year, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) said that he supports "an open debate" about legalizing and taxing marijuana as a means to raise income. The California State Board of Equalization has estimated that, with a $50-per-ounce tax on marijuana, the state could raise $1.4 billion of revenue each year.
DiCamillo believes that the revenue argument may be the strongest one in the arsenal of legalization supporters. "On the proponent side, the main argument that will have salience with voters is that it provides the state with a new source of tax revenue when the state really needs it," DiCamillo said. "If proponents can make that case to people who hadn't heard about it, that can win people over."
Others are less optimistic. Allen St. Pierre, the executive director of NORML, a national organization that advocates legalization, said that the latest Field Poll demonstrates how support for legalization wanes when respondents are asked about a specific ballot initiative. A Field Poll conducted last April, St. Pierre points out, showed 56 percent of Californians generally supporting the decriminalization of marijuana possession. "To see this poll [the latest Field Poll] be decidedly lower seems to indicate that when the question is better honed, that it definitely sharpens the political attention of Californians," St. Pierre said.
St. Pierre also suggested that legalization initiatives perform better during presidential election years as opposed to midterm election years, when fewer people vote. "When lots of people come out to the polls," St. Pierre said, "historically, we do very well."
Still, St. Pierre predicts a close race. "It's going to win or lose by 2 percent. Seeing this data now, maybe one could dampen down one's expectations to a lower number," Pierre said. He has a sunnier outlook on the next election cycle. "In 2012, likely, Californians will have another chance to vote on this. The largest state in the union is likely to lead the way on this issue."
Californians who support legalizing marijuana have company in the region. Although an initiative in the state of Washington similar to Proposition 19 didn't make it onto the ballot, 52 percent of Washington voters support "removing state civil and criminal penalties for possession or use of marijuana," according to a Washington Poll conducted in May (PDF). And a CBS poll released on April 20 of this year--get it?--found that 55 percent of adults living in the West support legalization.
Nationwide, though, Americans aren't so accepting. That same CBS poll found that adults oppose legalizing marijuana 51 to 44 percent, and President Obama, in a town hall meeting broadcast last March, memorably laughed at the idea.
The latest Field poll surveyed 1,005 likely voters from June 22 - July 5. Its margin of error is ±3.2.
Thomas Rhiel is TPM's polling fellow. Intern Marc Kilstein contributed reporting to this article.
Dave
July 9, 2010 3:41 PM
Midsummer polling isn't worth a tinker's dam. Few people care and many people are on vacation now (thus unavailable to poll). Since ther's no election looming to validate polling results there is no motive to be accurate.
See: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-27-2006/poll-smoking---2006-midterm-elections
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Eric Spiegelman
July 9, 2010 3:57 PM
Got any data on the split within the GOP? Because libertarians and financial conservatives should find themselves on one side, with social conservatives (and old people?) on the other side.
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Matt Jones
July 9, 2010 4:51 PM in reply to Eric Spiegelman
Yes - the fiscal conservatives bogarted it all, to calm down after their meeting with the Wall Street guys (cocaine is a hell of a drug).
Oh, you mean the *data* split! Nevermind... ;)
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Ben Judea
July 9, 2010 4:23 PM
Any poll regardless of questions and provided is not a push poll by design. Must have no less than 2500 respondents in order to be statistically significant. we are being fooled by a bogus poll.
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dick c
July 9, 2010 4:34 PM
It seems it could pass easily if some of the state representatives got on board. As it is, I believe I read just three are in favor of legalization. The fear of being perceived as opposing law enforcement might be a little too scary.
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JEP07
July 9, 2010 4:47 PM
Even if it doesn't pass, the whole industrial hemp issue should be exposed for the farce it is. When millions of voters approve of recretional use, regardless of whether they are a majority in any given venue, it should take all the wind out of the "hemp is pot is bad" cycle of foolishness that keeps such a versatile plant out of our farmer's fields.
The drug-dangers of hemp were completely contrived then, and now that the "dangers" of it's potent sister are being exposed as farcical by millions of everyday citizens who likely have more experience with it than the "experts" who condemn it for DuPont's sake, the stigma attached to hemp as an agricultural product are simply vanquished. I mean, if POT is on the legalization table, then how can they perpetuate the mythical evils of Hemp?
I have yet to hear any argument opposing hemp other than "but POT gets you high" which was never a valid argument in the first place, they are unrelated other than genetically.
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soupson52
July 9, 2010 5:54 PM in reply to JEP07
I've always thought: follow the money. I think it is so bizarre that it is illegal to raise this wonderful (not smokeable!) useful crop.
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farnsworth
July 9, 2010 6:46 PM in reply to soupson52
Follow the money. That is exactly right.
Hemp pulp makes almost five times as much paper per acre as pine trees, without needing to bleach the paper. Thus the timber for paper industry is dead-set against it.
Hemp fiber makes much stronger and longer-lasting fiber for clothing than cotton, without needing the massive amounts of pesticide that are required for cotton. Thus the cotton industry is dead-set against it.
Hemp is so easy to cultivate that it will be very difficult for any single industry to monopolize the profits. Thus there is no industry that is enthusiastically for it.
These are just two of the many uses for the cannabis hemp plant that will threaten the profits of existing industries. The existing industries are fighting tooth and nail against legalization.
Follow the money indeed.
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Shrubbit
July 9, 2010 6:24 PM in reply to JEP07
YES, thank you. Quite possibly the biggest farce in human history when you consider the inordinate capabilities of hemp, both for the fiber and the seed as food.
Also, I'd like to register a general disgust for the use of the term "marijuana." The plant is Cannabis sativa and that is what it should be called.
"Marijuana" is a term that Mexican migrants used to call cannabis. Harry Anslinger used that term to demonize Mexicans and he then proceeded to use that campaign as a springboard for state-by-state, then national, then international prohibition of the use of cannabis, including the aforementioned industrial hemp.
Continuing to blindly use the term "marijuana" in 2010 is akin to current newspapers or websites using racial epithets to describe minorities.
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farnsworth
July 9, 2010 6:49 PM in reply to Shrubbit
Anslinger used the term marijuana, literally mary jane, while fighting his battle for prohibition, because he couldn't have succeeded otherwise. He was talking about the dangers of "marijuana," and no one knew he was talking about cannabis hemp.
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Bet C
July 9, 2010 5:27 PM
Yo, even though I have never smoked it myself, I think they should legalize marijuana. Then they can tax the shit out of it. Then they can use the money for schools. Then the schools can provide anti-drug programs and other non-pot-smoking activities.
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toxophilite
July 9, 2010 5:59 PM
The proposed tax is $50 per ounce?! How much per smokeable unit does that work out to? And how does that compare to tax on tobacco?
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zonk
July 9, 2010 8:40 PM in reply to toxophilite
From what I...uhhh...heard...
Mileage varies by location and social circle, but that would work out to about a 20-25% tax... of course - I cannot imagine actual costs of a legal purchase would be anything close to that, so that's pretty meaningless estimate.
If an ounce isn't lasting you at least a couple months, my humble opinion would be that you're indulging a bit too much - or you're in college... or you're awfully wasteful.
Or so I heard... from someone...
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toxophilite
July 9, 2010 9:52 PM in reply to zonk
Good to know on the ounce thing. My one college experience gave the gentleman escorting me, umm, the opposite of a Viagra effect, and did zip-doodle for me. In addition to general good sense kicking in, there was no incentive to repeat the performance. Or lack thereof.
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Hobartcat
July 9, 2010 11:46 PM in reply to toxophilite
Wow, he must have been wigged out for other reasons - reefer usually makes things better in the boudior.
Often, the psychoactive effects aren't recognized by a first time user. Dunno why this is - it sneaks up on them. Then again, maybe he had a bad stash.
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SqueakyRat
July 10, 2010 1:20 PM in reply to toxophilite
Yeah, blame the pot.
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Firstthingwedo
July 10, 2010 9:06 AM in reply to toxophilite
According to Wikipedia, a joint typically contains from 250mg to 750mg of marijuana, though more or less is possible. If you assume 0.5 grams per joint, that would get you about 57 joints per ounce.
1/8 ounce of medical marijuana from a typical dispensary in the LA area costs about $50, but a full ounce is often about $300 (volume discount, presumably). A lot of the news calculations of street value of marijuana busts tends to be in this range as well.
Some people have predicted that if it were legalized, the price of an ounce (pre-tax) could drop to $40 or less, and have alleged that a percentge-based tax might not raise as much revenue as expected. Of course, if they used a per-unit tax, any drop in price would not directly impact tax revenues.
The California tax on a pack of cigarettes is only 87 cents per pack, and the tax on other tobacco products is targeted at just over 41% of the wholesale price.
If we use a $300/ounce retail price, and assume wholesale prices are 40% of that, and put a tax of 41.11% on a wholesale price of $120, then you get a tax per ounce of $49.33, which would be right in line with tobacco products on a percentage basis - but only because marijuana is currently something like 100 times as expensive as tobacco.
Sources: Wikipedia, various marijuana dispensary websites, California BOE website, RYO magazine website
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Firstthingwedo
July 10, 2010 9:06 AM in reply to toxophilite
According to Wikipedia, a joint typically contains from 250mg to 750mg of marijuana, though more or less is possible. If you assume 0.5 grams per joint, that would get you about 57 joints per ounce.
1/8 ounce of medical marijuana from a typical dispensary in the LA area costs about $50, but a full ounce is often about $300 (volume discount, presumably). A lot of the news calculations of street value of marijuana busts tends to be in this range as well.
Some people have predicted that if it were legalized, the price of an ounce (pre-tax) could drop to $40 or less, and have alleged that a percentge-based tax might not raise as much revenue as expected. Of course, if they used a per-unit tax, any drop in price would not directly impact tax revenues.
The California tax on a pack of cigarettes is only 87 cents per pack, and the tax on other tobacco products is targeted at just over 41% of the wholesale price.
If we use a $300/ounce retail price, and assume wholesale prices are 40% of that, and put a tax of 41.11% on a wholesale price of $120, then you get a tax per ounce of $49.33, which would be right in line with tobacco products on a percentage basis - but only because marijuana is currently something like 100 times as expensive as tobacco.
Sources: Wikipedia, various marijuana dispensary websites, California BOE website, RYO magazine website
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Firstthingwedo
July 10, 2010 9:09 AM in reply to Firstthingwedo
Sorry for the double post.
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ws84
July 11, 2010 6:48 AM in reply to toxophilite
Wow! 50 bucks an ounce. What does an ounce go for?
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July 20, 2010 1:00 AM in reply to toxophilite
I have seen polls that show a slight majority Is in favor of Prop 19. I guess its whom does the polling?
The $50/ounce is not in Prop 19 it was in another bill that died in committee. (it’s not in the initiative; that was Ammiano’s bill)
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HappyTim
July 9, 2010 8:11 PM
48-44 at this stage in the game? That's a dead heat in California propositions.
I agree with the sentiment that Summer polling is a pretty rough guestimate. I'm betting there's a lot more than 8% who are actually undecided right now.
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jeffgee
July 9, 2010 11:51 PM
How much influence does the prison guard lobby have on this issue? It would seem that they would be against it.
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rip
July 10, 2010 5:44 PM in reply to jeffgee
I don't think there are that many people in State prisons for marijuana possession alone in CA, IIRC it's more likely to be a federal charge.
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Dogtail
July 10, 2010 12:24 AM
Many pot growers and smokers oppose the legalization because they know, as we all do, that it will be taken over by corporations and the little guy who likes to grow his 5 plants will not be allowed to anymore. The law will only become stiffer as corporations take it over and push out the local grower. Know anyone who grows their own tobacco? The fear is the tobacco companies will take over the pot market and commercialize the beejeevies out of it, tax it, control it...
nightmare.
So keep in mind some of the folks against the legalization are pro-pot but anti-corporate. They will vote for it if they truly believe it empowers them to grow their own weed--like they do now.
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Given Up
July 10, 2010 12:34 AM in reply to Dogtail
Here is the text of the initiative http://www.taxcannabis.org/index.php/pages/initiative/
Nothing in here restricts anyone from growing their own pot, in fact the rules look much like those for alcohol. Please look this stuff up, there is no need to be a concern troll.
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Turnaround
July 10, 2010 6:45 AM
I'm sure big tobacco would hone in on the market, but I suspect that there would be a big niche for boutique cultivators, sort of like micro-breweries.
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jonez
July 10, 2010 11:36 AM
Legalization would hopefully mean more quality control, lower prices, and emptier jails.
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DugFmJamul
July 10, 2010 2:18 PM
I all in favor of Legalizing Marijuana, lets start on November 2, 2010 or the first Tuesday in November 2012. Smoke em if you got em...ha..ha!
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domainguru2010
July 10, 2010 9:59 PM
I agree with the sentiment that Summer polling is a pretty rough guestimate.
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