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Peter King And Anthony Weiner Shout Their Way Through A Fox News Interview (VIDEO)
Rep. Peter King (R-NY) and Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY)
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Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) went on an apoplectic rant on the House floor last night, and apparently he hasn't cooled off much since then.
Earlier this morning, Weiner and Rep. Peter King (R-NY) shouted and finger-pointed their way through a Fox News interview over a bill that would provide health care to rescue workers effected by the dust from the World Trade Center, which failed in the House last night.
King accused the Democrats of orchestrating a "cruel hoax" with the bill, while Weiner called it "outrageous" that Republicans would vote against it.
Weiner was furious last night that most of the "cowardly" Republicans voted against the bill and then blamed it on "procedure." Exclaimed Weiner: "You vote yes if you believe yes! You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing! If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no!"
On America's Newsroom today, King, who is the ranking Republican on the House Committee on Homeland Security, said that "the bottom line is the Democrats control the House, and they pulled a procedural gimmick starting ten days ago, and they lost the nerve to bring it to the floor on a real vote."
He also called the whole situation a "cruel hoax," and accused the Democrats of "moral cowardice."
"They control the House," said King. "They could have passed this."
Weiner shot back: "You know for all the whining about the process, we had an up-or-down vote. Do you know what percentage of Republicans voted for it? Seven percent." Only twelve Republicans voted in favor of the bill.
"Your rant last night about the process and how bad the process was gave cover for your colleagues," said Weiner adding, "Twelve Peter? That's all you could muster?"
At this point King and Weiner were basically just yelling over each other, with host Bill Hemmer feebly attempting to get a word in edgewise. But amidst the fray, King accused the Democrats of "phony hypocrisy" and trying to score a "cheap political point."
"Here's the point," Weiner fired back. "We support it, your guys don't. That's outrageous to oppose this bill."
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vasu
July 30, 2010 10:45 AM
I want more fire like this from all the democrats. If they had been fighting for their beliefs like this for the last year the country would be in a very different position.
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Viva!America!
July 30, 2010 10:49 AM in reply to vasu
I don' think so. The GOP has no incentive to work with Dems, no matter how much they yell or get in their face they don't have to do anything. The base and corporations rewards them every time they vote against the Dem agenda.
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Overreach THIS!
July 30, 2010 10:55 AM in reply to Viva!America!
Probably correct!
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Viva!America!
July 30, 2010 11:01 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
I would actually like to see this outrage from voters. Voters who know what's in their best interest, not the morons from the health care townhall meetings.
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chimpale
July 30, 2010 12:00 PM in reply to Viva!America!
This is the kind of thing that will get the voters, or at least the base, to get up and and get involved. They want to see these people that are asking for their votes actually fighting on their behalf, not just trying to work out compromises with opponents who will never give an inch. Weiner's rant doesn't have to change any Republicans' minds if it manages to just get Dems motivated.
I really appreciate someone who knows how to vent. Sam Kinnison was effective. Lewis Black is really good at it, too. Weiner may not have the schtick to match them, but he's very effective just the same. He doesn't just sputter, he knows exactly what he's talking about and phrases it well.
Sometimes things get so incredibly stupid that you can't respond in a quiet manner.
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Viva!America!
July 30, 2010 12:42 PM in reply to chimpale
Don't confuse anger with strength and quietness with weakness. History has shown that you don't always need to be rip roaring mad to get what you want.
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hotspur
July 30, 2010 1:06 PM in reply to Viva!America!
Also, history has shown that constant high levels of anger in their elected officials exhausts the American public and can be a real downer on their favorability ratings long-term. I'm glad Weiner is angry here, but it would be self-defeating to want all Dems to be this angry all the time.
That said, the host is a douche. "This yelling might be why Congress has an 11% approval rating"??? F you, douche. You've got a real disagreement on your hands and all you can do is get all smug that people are not disagreeing as obediently as you'd like -- F you. F you right in the ear.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 1:20 PM in reply to Viva!America!
Yea, but you might want to try it ONCE - in 19 months.
Obama is the nicest guy in politics. That's great when you're the mayor of a town with a population under 1,000. Hopefull there will be more and more calls for a primary challenger in 2012.
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vasu
July 30, 2010 2:11 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
Well I don't want obama to be a once term president. What I want is more passion and spine for him and the Dem's. They hold power. They should be strutting their stuff, pushing through issues that will help the country. Not back down when a threat of filibuster hit. Make this obstructionist actually filibuster. Don't give a summer recess until you get what you want. Again this country is being held hostage by the minority which is never what was intended.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 6:46 PM in reply to vasu
I don't want him to be a one term President either but say 15 months from now we're still at 10% unemployment and still "withdrawing" from our two wars, do you think he'll still be able to govern?
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Jesus H. Christ
July 31, 2010 7:07 PM in reply to vasu
amen
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expat46
July 30, 2010 3:30 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
That didn't work out too well for Carter.
I can see it now, the liberal/progressives get all excited about a candidate that promises "real" change. This exciting new candidate decides to stay in the race out of principal and hopefully move the overton window to the left. Lots and lots of liberal/progressives get behind this exciting new candidate out of principal in order to move the agenda to the left.
Queue the music to "The Presidents March" and the smiling image of the nations first female president.
A couple of years later all of the hard work completed by the previous administration begins to have a real affect, the economy starts humming again and President Palin declares this a justification for small government and less regulation.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 7:06 PM in reply to expat46
I think you're running scared. I can't see where challenging Obama will give the Republicans an open door to the Presidency under almost any circumstance. The 'pubs IMO have absolutely no one to offer, no one with any credibility or charisma. If they did then a Dem primary fight would be really really stupid. If you're right about Palin then we deserve our grand stupidity as a nation. God, what a thought. Makes me pause.
And get back to me when the "economy starts humming again".
This ain't your ordinary recession. Nothing but more bad news on top of more bad news. Wayyy to serious.
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:04 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
One word: PUMA
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 11:20 PM in reply to expat46
PUMA = mexican slang for poof! I'm not going to play with you anymore.
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:23 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
You're a good guy CV. Chammy will come around when she gets to know you better.
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:28 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
CV, let's chat.
http://www.chatzy.com/339409891605
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:20 PM in reply to expat46
and a quote
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ZeraLee
August 2, 2010 4:02 PM in reply to expat46
Good quote!
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Overreach THIS!
July 30, 2010 3:48 PM in reply to chimpale
Very, very good comment!
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Big River Bandido
July 30, 2010 10:58 AM in reply to Viva!America!
vasu's comment has nothing to do with Republicans. They are irrelevant. The point was that if Democrats would respond more regularly with this kind of in-your-face anger and righteous outrage, 1) Republicans would be forced to back down much more often than they have, and 2) Democrats would not appear so weak and ineffective before the voters.
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Viva!America!
July 30, 2010 11:06 AM in reply to Big River Bandido
NO. They. Would. Not. There is a payoff - $$$$$$- to voting against the Democratic agenda. No amount of yelling or calling them out is going to make them budge. From voters? maybe, yes. From their opponents? No.
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vasu
July 30, 2010 12:15 PM in reply to Viva!America!
But if they show the base that they really are fighting for what is right, and stop taking out provisions and trying to work comprimises, whether or not they get repuke backing it will fire up the dem base.
They don't do enough to beat the loud enough that the Repukes are racist obstructionist wanting only to line their pockets at the expense of america. Instead they let Fake News and the Repukes twist and distort the true message.
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Echo Left
July 30, 2010 1:07 PM in reply to Big River Bandido
x2
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Shroomduke
July 31, 2010 1:50 PM in reply to Viva!America!
You must be kidding, with all due respect, the Republican Party are nothing but Obstructionist & Corporate whores who don't give a damn about what's right for the America, her people, the Veterans, Democracy, Justice, Fairness, they have NO Compassion, no courage or honor, they have not only OBSTRUCTED EVERYTHING possible, but done everything in their power to SABOTAGE this Presidency, this Congress and Democracy itself, AND they have proudly proclaimed that Obstructionism is their Mission! I must most profoundly disagree with you, this is the passion Democrats need to rally their base and to get people interested in Politics again, it's been far too quiet and boring, the American people love excitement, LETS HAVE SOME EXCITEMENT DAMMIT!
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dtOZONE
July 30, 2010 12:34 PM in reply to vasu
yeah, we'd have gotten nothing passed
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Zentrails
July 30, 2010 1:11 PM in reply to vasu
Yes, more of this, please, Democrats.
Let's start naming bills like the Repubs, too.
Call the bill "The Keep 9/11 Heroes from Dying of Horrible Dieases caused by Al Queda Bill"
There is something to learn from the Repubs. It's not much but it's something.
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JohnW1141
July 30, 2010 1:59 PM in reply to Zentrails
Zentails,
heh heh, excellent suggestion. Have you ever visited my webpage
"I LOVE OUR FLAG.com"?
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raincntry
July 30, 2010 2:09 PM in reply to vasu
I agree. Democratic leaders need to stop pretending that the GOP opposition to anything has been principled. They need to start shouting down the ludicrous talking points, forcefully, before they have chance to take hold in the Conservative Media complex. They cannot allow this stuff to keep happening unchallenged.
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barkleyfan
July 31, 2010 8:30 AM in reply to vasu
lmfao The only thing they stand up for is MOAR money. Same as it ever was. Both parties are saturated with vapid narcissism and flaccid foresight. The only thing any of these assholes love about our country is the ease of exploitation voter apathy provides them. Fuckin Rome 2.0 representing. I suppose if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, you can always resort to baffling them with bullshit. Whatever it takes to retain your ability to peddle influence and feign competence.
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dick_data
July 30, 2010 10:46 AM
You could bring the bill up a thousand times, and the Republicans would have a thousand different reasons for voting against the bill. The Republicans belive that they will win more seats if Congress gets less done. The judgement about what's good for America is not a factor.
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CityGuy
July 30, 2010 1:10 PM in reply to dick_data
Plus, Peter King from New York knows he has plenty to lose by voting against the 9/11 responders. For once, the GOP is citing obscure procedural matters, all the while looking feckless by not helping out victims of 9/11.
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Viva!America!
July 30, 2010 10:46 AM
How does he NOT turn around and punch King in the face? I could never be in politics.
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chameleon
July 30, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to Viva!America!
LMAO. I hear ya.
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 4:24 PM in reply to chameleon
Ugg see one flabby peter, one smart Weiner. Har har har.
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chameleon
July 30, 2010 4:32 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
LOL Ug. That's was very good.
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 4:51 PM in reply to chameleon
Har har har. Ugg know how much you like penis joke. Har har har.
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chameleon
July 30, 2010 5:31 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
I think you have me confused with Clarence Vine.
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 5:34 PM in reply to chameleon
Clarance? No big deal. Har har har.
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chameleon
July 30, 2010 5:43 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
No big deal is right. Har har har.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 7:14 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
Get out big club for Uug.
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 7:21 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
U lack clarance to add extra u to Ugg name. Har har har. It's Ugg, not Uug. Uug my Uuncle. Har har har.
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expat46
July 30, 2010 8:39 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
I got so mad I was going to drive over there and kick his ass, but then I saw a sign that said 'clarance 15 feet 8 inches' and I changed my mind. :)
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expat46
July 30, 2010 8:42 PM in reply to expat46
oops! forgot to add NO DICK JOKES!!!
Ug Rocks!
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 8:47 PM in reply to expat46
ROCFHHHOL. Thanks expat46.
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Brownbagger
July 30, 2010 7:26 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
Clarance, bless your heart, what the fuck does that mean?
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 8:24 PM in reply to Brownbagger
Jesus, can't you keep up! just trying out new material. Been playing set up for Ugg. And now he's trashing me. Chammy on a tear yesterday - penis joke (President's penis of course). Great exchange. Chammy had to do some serious backpedaling. And then some more. Slapped around by 3-4 posters. Enjoyed every minute. It was geat.
So wassup Brown? Still stumblin' in the dark? Let me know if I can help. Screen play my specialty. Back on the meds. Almost civil now.
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Brownbagger
July 30, 2010 8:36 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
OK. Much appreciated, but it's a novel and I'm on a roll now. Stay cool, not crude.
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chameleon
July 30, 2010 9:47 PM in reply to Brownbagger
Hey Brownbagger - almost missed you. Nice to see you. Glad to hear it's going well. Thanks for stopping by. Ignore CV. He's getting worse everyday. He calls other people rude as if his comments to you and others haven't been beyond rude. If I didn't know better, I'd think he was a 9 year old because he acts like one. This coming from a man past retirement age.
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Brownbagger
July 30, 2010 10:22 PM in reply to chameleon
Hi Chammy. I'm bummed. Lost a dear fuzzy friend. I really think Clarance/Darcy/Sis is not a bad person, I just don't understand him. Anyway, I'm thinking tonight doggies are better than all of us. Truer, braver, sweeter, ... that's all I have to say.
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:01 PM in reply to Brownbagger
Sorry for your loss brother.
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Brownbagger
July 30, 2010 11:16 PM in reply to expat46
Thank you, expat. Just a dang dog, but it hurts. He was a real champ.
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:52 PM in reply to Brownbagger
Hey Brownbagger, plug this into you browser and let's chat if you feel like it.
Anybody else too for that matter.
http://www.chatzy.com/339409891605
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Brownbagger
July 31, 2010 12:23 AM in reply to expat46
OK. I'm there. Where are you?
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Ugg the Repug
July 31, 2010 1:04 AM in reply to Brownbagger
Chammy, join us here.
http://www.chatzy.com/339409891605
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chameleon
July 31, 2010 9:31 AM in reply to Brownbagger
Oh I am soooo sorry. I feel the same way about critters. I love them too and I know how much it hurts when you have to say goodbye. Was he old? So sorry again BB.
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chameleon
July 31, 2010 9:33 AM in reply to Brownbagger
You're not the only one. That's because we never know which one will show up on any given day.
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Brownbagger
July 31, 2010 1:16 AM in reply to chameleon
Chammy, join us at
http://www.chatzy.com/339409891605
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Libertyluvrz
July 30, 2010 2:57 PM in reply to Viva!America!
I've met King twice, and *I* had a hard time not punching him in the face. He is beloved by a lot of his constituents, a lot of whom are first responders. It'll be interesting to see how this affects him, although he'll still maintain the rich guy vote.
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brothejr
July 30, 2010 10:50 AM
I am really liking Anthony Weiner more and more. He's taking it directly to the GOP and calling them out for their hypocrisy. I'd like to see more Democrats like him both in the house and the senate. Maybe just maybe if we got more like him more stuff would be done.
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greenmean
July 30, 2010 5:15 PM in reply to brothejr
Weiner & Grayson-Love Em!!
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Economides
July 30, 2010 10:50 AM
Welcome to David Kurtz's America. Politics at it's finest!
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Proud to be an American
July 30, 2010 10:51 AM
I don't know why someone hasn't done this before. It is time for our representatives to stand up for us. I was very proud to hear Mr. Weiner's comments. He is correct - all the Republicans do is vote NO on anything. They really don't care about us. They are more concerned with their paycheck and the next election. Vote NO to Republicans next election.
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CityGuy
July 30, 2010 1:07 PM in reply to Proud to be an American
Yes and people like Weiner and Grayson can fire up the base. Dems and their independent allies need to see Dems in Congress fighting the good fight. This motivates the Democratic base. This could fire-up progressive-leaning independents once they become truly apprehensive of a GOP takeover of either chamber of Congress. Go Weiner and Grayson. And Speaker Pelosi: please let them have their say! After all, the Dems have not much to lost by being themselves right now. Esp. if the polls are to be believed!
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VAsouthernliberal
July 30, 2010 10:53 AM
If you noticed , the commentator called them gentlemen. Peter King is and never wil be a gentleman.
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Cay
July 30, 2010 10:55 AM
Totally dig Anthony Weiner.
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VAsouthernliberal
July 30, 2010 10:55 AM
Sorry. Is not and never will be a gentleman!
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Brownbagger
July 30, 2010 5:49 PM in reply to VAsouthernliberal
Huh? You have to love this guy. He's the remedy for conservative cancer killing this country. We are dying and he's the cure. If Democrats do not start fighting back, point fingers at vile Republican tactics, America is phhhhhht! Mark my friggin' word. With respect, screw your Virgina gentleman crap.
p.s. If you were kidding, why I'm evermore sorry, kind sir. Shall we have a mint julip?
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Big River Bandido
July 30, 2010 10:59 AM
More of this please. This is how you deal with Republicans.
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cindyperry2009
July 30, 2010 11:05 AM
They have basically said they refuse to allow anything to get done to let the country move forward to have anything accomplished. wtf
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expat46
July 30, 2010 11:17 AM
The Republicans are pissed because they couldn't offer amendments and turn the bill into a christmas tree and then blame the Democrats for pork barrel spending.
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jhill3rd
July 30, 2010 11:17 AM
I love how that daft Fox "News" commentator concludes by saying this is maybe the reason why congress has an 11% approval rating. Really? Weiner took King to task on live TV and Fox calls it a draw. That interview couldn't wrap fast enough for that Right-Wing propaganda noise machine.
Keep um on their toes Anthony :)
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TIMMY
July 30, 2010 11:57 AM in reply to jhill3rd
I agree. Republican comes off looking like the fluffers-to-the-wealthy that they are....and Fox schmuck throws him a towel. Go clean yourself up.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 7:11 PM in reply to TIMMY
Is that you Clockwork?
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Maxdemon
July 30, 2010 11:18 AM
Weiner in 2016!
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kittyweese
July 30, 2010 11:27 AM
Alan Grayson is another Democrat who gives it back.
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July 30, 2010 11:36 AM
"But amidst the fray, [Senator Peter] King accused the Democrats of "phony hypocrisy" and trying to score a "cheap political point." That's implies that Republicans use REAL hypocrisy and score EXPENSIVE political points. Well said, Senator.
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numediaman
July 30, 2010 11:39 AM
At this point the Democrats have been so demonized by the Republicans that it is a matter of morality and patriotism for the Republicans to reject anything the Democrats might propose. Why should anyone trust a Fascist-Communist-Racist party?
On the other hand, the Democrats continue to believe that they should attempt to work with these same Republicans and actually take seriously what they say, going so far as to hire and fire based on their opinions.
Both parties are insane -- certifiably insane.
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ericf
July 30, 2010 11:43 AM
This needs more context. Even seeing the clip Weiner on the floor, I have no idea what they were voting on. Did I hear something about a 2/3 vote being needed? That would explain why it didn't pass. Whatever it was.
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RAGGEDT
July 30, 2010 11:53 AM in reply to ericf
Ericf, you're exactly right. This bill was brought up under what is called "suspension of the rules," where no floor amendments are allowed and the bill needs a 2/3 majority to pass. That is a procedure usually reserved for so-called "non-controversial" bills like commemorating a post office in a small town or declaring that Tuesday is "Bob Hope Was A Great American Day."
There's no way that a medical/spending bill -- regardless of its merits -- would get passed in those circumstances. By definition, it's not "non-controversial." Weiner's theatrics are all well and good, but it boggles the mind that the Democrats would try to push a bil like that through needing a 2/3 vote.
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xargaw
July 30, 2010 12:08 PM in reply to RAGGEDT
Exactly, what is controversial about providing health care for responders to 9/11 that have suffered health problems from the toxic environment around the WTC? This is a no-brainer!
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Blueline99
July 30, 2010 12:21 PM in reply to xargaw
It's politicized because the words "health care" are attached. This isn't a new issue. Michael Moore brought this issue up in his movie Sicko.
It's a travesty that this occurs.
btw... they did it this way to prevent ammendments being hanged on this bill like a Christmas tree... the GOP used the procedure excuse for political cover not to vote for it.
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Signalman
July 30, 2010 12:00 PM
Peter King: Rhymes with "Spithead."
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Rob_The_A_Hole
July 30, 2010 12:13 PM
Why did they need 2/3 majority?
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kawika49
July 31, 2010 1:29 PM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
It's called suspension of the rules. Under a suspension bill, no amendments are allowed and require 2/3rds of the members present to pass.
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roxsteady
July 30, 2010 12:15 PM
Every dumb ass in Long Island who voter for Peter King and has a family member who either died or was injured running into the Trade Center should go to Kings office and punch him in the face! While beltway wisdom claims that the Dems will suffer for this, only idiots who can't see what Republicans are doing will see it that way. It's very simple folks. If you want to get anything done GET RID OF AS MANY REPUBLICANS AS YOU CAN! The notion that the minority party doesn't have to do anything is bullshit! They are they to work for the people, not their party. It's like playing chess with someone and they refuse to make a move. Why are you even playing if you're not going to move. Why are Republicans in Washington if they're not going to do anything? It's freeloading. Get rid of them!
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Matt Jones
July 30, 2010 12:32 PM in reply to roxsteady
Why would people in Long Island who *voted* for King be upset about this? They elected a member of the Party Of NO, and they're getting what they voted for...
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Phoebe Fay
July 30, 2010 12:19 PM
Weiner can hammer home this point all day: If you support the bill, you should have voted yes. When you say you support the bill, but vote no, you're just talking out your ass.
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roxsteady
July 30, 2010 12:21 PM in reply to Phoebe Fay
Spot on PhoebeFay! You said it best!
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Rob_The_A_Hole
July 30, 2010 12:25 PM
Doesn't it seem a little bit that they went with this needing a 2/3 majority route because they knew it wouldn't pass and then Weiner could get furious, whereas if they went with a typical bill it would have passed and then they couldn't have all the outrage? Everyone knows the GOP is going to vote against anything/everything so why would they try to pass something in this way that absolutely needed their support. Seems very staged.
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JoshQuasimoto
July 30, 2010 12:35 PM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
I think you need to read up on procedure and the rules of congress. No doubt Harry Reid has not always one the day with the way he sets up bills for passage but Rep Weiner's point should not be lost. 94 % Dems voted for 9/11 first repsonders health and 7% GOP voted for 9/11 responders. In todays dumbed down media environment shouldn't the simply question be to those 93% GOP and 6% Dem's, "why did you vote against the health-care of 9/11 responders? Why did you vote against funding that would have alleviated much of the US courts load in helping these American with the health problems after helping out their fellow american on 9/11?"
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Rob_The_A_Hole
July 30, 2010 12:37 PM in reply to JoshQuasimoto
No doubt Republicans should have voted for this. This was an easy one. But why did it need the 2/3 majority? Why not just pass the damn thing? To me it just seems very staged.
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pv2k
July 30, 2010 12:43 PM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
It seems staged? Well who staged it? The Democrats for knowing that the Republicans would be stupid and vote against it? Or the Republicans trying to drag their worthless agenda out a little farther?
The truth is this. There is absolutely now reason that this vote wasn't carried with a total of 90% for and 10% against by both parties. There will always be some knot-heads and out of that 10%, I can guarantee you that 90% of those will be Republicans.
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Rob_The_A_Hole
July 30, 2010 12:48 PM in reply to pv2k
I would say whoever made the decision to make it necessary to have a two thirds majority to pass along with Rep. Weiner. Can someone explain why it was brought forth with this requirement? If there was a true reason for it okay, but without this requirement the Democrats easily pass this without needing 1 GOP vote.
The GOP should have voted for it, everyone should have voted for it, but why bring it up in a way that even has a chance of failing, unless there was another motive?
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Jen R
July 30, 2010 1:36 PM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
Weiner alluded to the reason in his rant on the House floor. The bill was brought up under this rule so the Republicans wouldn't get a chance to keep compromising it and watering it down with amendments, only to vote "no" in the end anyway. As Weiner said, they didn't want Republicans doing what they do to every vote in the Senate.
Why that happened with this particular bill and not others, I'm not sure.
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Rob_The_A_Hole
July 30, 2010 1:41 PM in reply to Jen R
But now they're left with nothing. Well except outrage, but that's not going to take care of these workers.
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Lestatdelc
July 30, 2010 3:34 PM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
And whose fault is that? Those who voted no on the bill.
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dtOZONE
August 2, 2010 7:50 AM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
You're right, and now we see the true problem Democrats have, they either have to let Republicans water down bills or pass nothing at all.
They get criticized for both
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slb
July 30, 2010 4:52 PM in reply to Jen R
Or to load it up with irrelevant amendments, like they were doing with anti-pornography amendments earlier this year.
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toddincabo
July 30, 2010 6:45 PM in reply to Rob_The_A_Hole
To quote the post above you...
"When you say you support the bill, but vote no, you're just talking out your ass."
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larmar
July 30, 2010 12:34 PM
Dems need to put Republicans on the defensive, stuttering and stammering more often.
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 12:44 PM
When at war, throw rock, don't make nice. Even caveman know this.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 8:29 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
Ugg need new material. Maybe hit on head help.
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Ugg the Repug
July 30, 2010 8:40 PM in reply to Clarance Vine
OK. Lean head this way so Ugg hammer can reach. Har har har.
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Clarance Vine
July 30, 2010 11:11 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
Ugg trick Clarance again. Bump is back.
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July 30, 2010 12:47 PM
Republican can't lie, can shout, can't out talk anyone. How come anyone votes for them. I wish they would all agree to boxing matches to settle some of these issues-i bet democrats win. I say Anthony for PRESIDENT.
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thinkbeforespeaking
July 30, 2010 12:52 PM
Hate to say it, but Hemmer's final comment was the most apt.
Of course, Fox et al. are crying all the way to the bank. I wonder, which news network will be the first to merge its "Reality" and "News" divisions? Snooki couldn't have pulled off a better (pointless) one-on-one throwdown.
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Kuro
July 30, 2010 1:13 PM
Peter King = Republican douche bag
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verite
July 30, 2010 1:30 PM
Peter King, made famous for admitting they were about to steal the election for his buddy "W":
"it's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dV67u370Pg
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July 30, 2010 3:50 PM
Now, he and the other Dems need to do this for EVERYTHING! Republicans are wimps, we should be eating them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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benintn
July 30, 2010 4:23 PM
Well, at least we have bipartisan shouting now. Maybe the conflict will bring about some kind of dialogue... maybe?
Nah, probably not.
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slb
July 30, 2010 4:34 PM
{sigh}
I apologize for this, Jillian, but somebody has to do it:
...a bill that would provide health care to rescue workers effected by the dust from the World Trade Center...
For most purposes, the word "effect" is a noun; the verb is "affect."
"...workers affected by the dust from the World Trade Center..."
"...the deleterious effects of the dust from the World Trade Center on the rescue workers..."
"effect" used as a verb means "to bring about," "to create," often used in the phrase "to effect change," meaning "to bring about change," not to have some undefined effect on it (which would be "to affect change").
"affect" as a noun (pronounced with the emphasis on the first syllable) is a technical term used in psychology and psychiatry.
Your use of "effect" has workers being created by the dust (echos of Genesis!), and is obviously not what you intended.
See http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html
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numbtoitall
July 30, 2010 4:55 PM
The Republican he was yelling at worked on the bill for five years and helped get the 218 votes that would be needed to pas...s it. The Democrats then changed the procedure for voting requiring 290 votes so that the Republicans could not AMEND the bill. SEE...THERE IS FUNDING FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HEALTH CARE IN THE BILL...and the Republicans would not support that. The Republican got calls from law enforcement and government officials in NYC when they got wind of this bill for 9/11 victims being used as a vehicle to give illegal immigrants health care funding. The Republican exposed what Weiner and the Dems were doing and Weiner went off because of this exposure of their underhandedness! I guess he thought having an fake indignant tantrum would divert attention from the REAL ISSUE.
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Jen7
July 30, 2010 5:23 PM in reply to numbtoitall
Absolute GARBAGE! Is that why Rep. King voted for it?!?! He voted for illegal immigrants getting healthcare?? What about the 12 other Republicans who voted for it?? Rep. King didn't mention that in the two interviews he did today. Why is that? He mentioned procedure. That was it.
Absolute GARBAGE, num, and you know it.
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Rich in NJ
July 30, 2010 5:24 PM in reply to numbtoitall
Even Peter King isn't as disingenuous as you are:
link
So your position is that if illegal immigrants were harmed by the WTC dust they shouldn't be helped?
I love the hypocrisy of the family values party. I really do.
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numbtoitall
July 30, 2010 5:26 PM
I'm actually a democrat, but the full story isn't getting out and as a legal immigrant to this country, no--I don't think illegal immigrants should be helped.
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Jen7
July 30, 2010 5:29 PM in reply to numbtoitall
Seriously? And you call yourself a Democrat??
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numbtoitall
July 30, 2010 5:30 PM
Just as Sherrod was screwed over by the media, this story is getting screwed over, too. No one will ever report the full story--MSM or Fox.
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numbtoitall
July 30, 2010 5:32 PM
I don't see how desiring healthcare coverage for citizens only precludes me from being a democrat.
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Jen7
July 30, 2010 5:44 PM in reply to numbtoitall
Because it's a FOUL Republican principle. It's a disgusting stance. Let's just forget those who are hurt or injured because they risked their LIVES saving others...because they are illegal.
Do you believe ER's should turn away illegals then?
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fkaZk0sm0
July 30, 2010 6:17 PM in reply to numbtoitall
okay, first of all. turn on yer bullshit detector. this bill doesn't say one fucking word about immigration status or citizenship. this bill has zero (nada) to do with immigration. this canard about providing health care to 'illegal immigrants' is a RED HERRING. (and even IF the bill hadn't been closed to amendments and an amendment had been introduced to preclude the bill from covering 9/11 workers whose immigration status was or is not 'legal' but who nonetheless have developed illnesses as a result of their work at ground zero, THAT would still be nothing more than a red herring.)
second, if you think that withholding health care from 9/11 workers on the basis of immigration status is a good idea, then yes, i too have to wonder why it is you consider yourself a Democrat.
lastly 'citizens only'?? so even legal immigrant non-citizens who worked at ground zero should not get coverage for the illnesses they've developed as a result of their having worked at ground zero?? wow. and you are yourself (according to you) a 'legal immigrant'?
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ajohnny
July 30, 2010 8:33 PM
I think Bill Hemmer's closing comment is the most pertinent part of this video.
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DugFmJamul
August 1, 2010 3:32 PM
I would love to see Rep. King slap the mustard off that puny little Weiner, now that would be something worth watching.
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ZeraLee
August 2, 2010 5:00 PM
"They control the House," said King. "They could have passed this."
Did King just blame the Democrats for NOT "shoving it down our throats"???
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amazona
August 2, 2010 7:55 PM
Yep, the congress sucks for sure, but the news media sucks just as bad.....e.g. top news story Lindsay Lohan,jeez!!!
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August 16, 2010 5:54 PM
DUMP THE WEINER AND SHIP HIS CARCASS BACK TO OSCAR MAYER!
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