
Harry Reid is back -- maybe. Or perhaps it's just that his opponent, former state Rep. Sharron Angle, is taking herself down.
Earlier this year, Reid seemed like a sure goner. Unemployment in Nevada was sky high. The bad economy had especially damaged Nevada's tourism base. (The latest statistics this morning show an unemployment rate of 14.2%.) The state's voters seemed very unhappy with the Senate Majority Leader. He lagged in the polls. And it looked like he would face a tough challenge in November from former state GOP chair Sue Lowden.
And now? Reid's back on top in the polls. And his challenger, Angle, has made a series of unforced errors that seem to be hurting her campaign, and helping Reid's.
Angle won the Republican primary despite polls generally showing her to be the weakest potential GOP candidate. She largely has Lowden to thank. The former state GOP chair had a rather amusing self-destruction after encouraging the use of barter in order to lower health care costs, pining for the days when her grandparents' generation would bring a chick to the doctor.
And now recent polls have shown Reid running ahead or closing the gap against Angle, who's made a number of gaffes of her own. There's a Dem poll giving Reid a four-point lead. Jon Ralston, one of the top political reporters in the state, called that poll "ominous news for Angle, if those numbers are right - and I bet Republicans know they are."
On top of that, a new Mason-Dixon survey shows Reid up seven points -- a 10-point swing from last month, when Angle led by three. Furthermore, Rasmussen shows the trend in Reid's favor. On June 9, Angle led by 11. A month later, on July 12, that lead had shrunk to three.
The TPM Poll Average currently gives Reid a narrow edge of 42.8%-42.6% -- the first time this year that Reid has led in this composite at all. In fact, take a look at the graph. As you can see, Reid is rebounding just slightly, but Angle is taking a serious dive, illustrating how the nature of Reid's comeback has come from Angle's errors:
So what could have caused all this? Well, let's take a look at some of the more interesting attacks and gaffes that have come up:
• Reid's campaign focused heavily on Angle's previous statements during the primary that she wanted to "phase out" Social Security and Medicare, a position that Angle later toned down in an interview with Ralston.
• Angle also came under intense scrutiny for a pre-primary statement about the idea of people invoking their "Second Amendment remedies" as a check on the government, and to "take out" Reid. She also backed away from that one in the Ralston interview, saying she was "speaking broadly" and not encouraging revolution.
• Angle's campaign threatened legal action against Team Reid, on the basis of intellectual property infringement, for reposting her old campaign website that had much stronger versions of her stances -- an act that only called attention to the very stances she was trying to keep out of the spotlight. This position put Angle in a strange spot, from a First Amendment standpoint, seemingly trying to suppress an attack against her as a candidate for office. Angle later reversed herself, saying she was "glad" that Reid posted it. But not before the media focused on the story for a week.
• Angle has also had a pattern of giving interviews almost entirely to conservative media only, and avoiding more mainstream outlets. In a recent interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, she openly admitted why: The mainstream media won't let her ask viewers for money.
• The Republican nominee bashed the $20 billion BP escrow account that was set up to pay damages claims resulting from the oil spill, claiming it was a "slush fund." She quickly walked that statement back, but the damage was done. The DNC and President Obama have both since ripped Angle over the comment.
And through it all, Team Reid has seemed pleased as punch with Angle's mistakes, hitting her in ads (like this one and this one), and sending out a number of email blasts seizing on each latest Angle gaffe.
Jon Ralston, one of Nevada's top political reporters, wrote this over the weekend:
Coming up on the 100-day mark until the election -- and only three months until early voting starts -- Reid remains manifestly unpopular, with more than half of those surveyed indicating they will not vote for him. But his strategy of driving people away from Angle and into either a "none of the above" posture or a oh-how-it-pains-me-to-vote-for-him stance has worked to perfection.
Make no mistake: I doubt the Reid folks are unfurling a "Mission Accomplished" banner in their headquarters. There may be one that says, "It's about Angle, stupid." Or: "Duct tape his mouth, stupid."
But Reid, who lost a U.S. Senate race by a few hundred votes in 1974 and won one by a few hundred votes in 1998, knows that the most famous Yogi Berraism applies. But even if it ain't over and won't be until Nov. 2, what has happened since the primary has astounded observers near and far.
Here's what "a seasoned observer of the state's politics" emailed Ben Smith about the developments in Nevada, including the Mason-Dixon poll:
They've run a textbook campaign for an incumbent in trouble, and i don't see Angle stopping that slide. She did get a good money number this week, but this poll is going to scare off money as well. A total f*** up by the state and national Republicans to allow Angle to get nominated.
Granted it hasn't been all bad news for Angle. Since she won the GOP primary, Angle has been able to consolidate Republican support and raise money at a faster pace than Reid. On the other hand, she still lags behind Reid in cash-on-hand by a 5-1 ratio.
So let's see how this race turns out. It's going to be a long -- and likely highly entertaining -- path to November. But there's no question: Reid is in much, much better shape than he was just a month or two ago, and he has his opponent to thank for it.
July 19, 2010 10:05 AM
Great run-down, TPM.
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IVY LEAGUE
July 19, 2010 4:25 PM in reply to Ethan
Absolutely on target ... with an exception (I
had little problem spotting ~ as an
extremely tuned in to what's happening here,
PROUD Nevadan), that is:
I'm quite positive: Sue Lowden had not stated
that her grandparents (and their generation)
used to
"take a CHICK to the Doctor" ... LMAO
I love Kleefield, but someone should hire him
a better proofreader;
TRUTH is, Harry Reid never LOST his "groove" ...
the 14 percent stems directly from the
fact
That "construction" work is down (placing a lot
of hard working women and men on the
unemployment rolls) ... this is true in many
other states besides Nevada, however.
Casinos (and those Hotel/Resort venues they
promote) are extremely alive and well ... in
fact we gain a significant % of TOURIST business
on a weekly basis.
VEGAS in particular generates more $$$$ than
the rest of the state, combined ~ and has the
"clout" to boast of
A Cleveland Clinic partnered Neuro Center, the
likes of which is without equal around the globe
(thanks Frank Gehry for your kooky design, such
definitely garners a lot of ATTENTION ... and
gasps) ~ this from someone who should know,
devoting professional time to the place;
Have a fabulous week, smart TPM people ...
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toddincabo
July 19, 2010 9:43 PM in reply to Ethan
I cant believe they haven't changed the word "gaffe" to "beliefs" by now.
Cmon' TPM , lets get this straight.
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Humpback
July 19, 2010 10:41 AM
When voters focus on the Republican/Tea Party/Bush legacy alternative, the Democratic incumbent does not look so bad.
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CityGuy
July 19, 2010 12:42 PM in reply to Humpback
Exactly.
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Quitty
July 19, 2010 10:48 AM
Good run-down except that despite mentioning Nevada's high unemployment, you neglected to include Angle's position that it's not the responsibility of the senate to help create jobs, and her statement that, unlike Harry Reid, she wouldn't have lifted a finger to help save the the major construction project in the city center (and its corresponding jobs) if she had been in office.
My guess is, with unemployment running 14.2% in Nevada, those remarks have contributed significantly to her fall.
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Matt Jones
July 19, 2010 10:56 AM
Quick comment on terminology: a "gaffe" is typically the designation for a speaker saying something that doesn't turn out to mean what they intended. A classic example:
One source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3541706.stm
For the most part, it's clear that Shrub didn't *actually* mean that he never thinks about ways to harm the country; it was a rhetorical error.
On the other hand, when Angle claims that rape victims should "make lemons out of lemonade", that's just her extreme anti-choice position talking. There's no accident of meaning...
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thomas1
July 19, 2010 12:21 PM in reply to Matt Jones
My understanding of the meaning of 'gaffe' has always been when the speaker says exactly what they feel but it's not 'politically accetpable'. Consequently, Sharron Angle is gaffe city.
If I'm wrong please set me straight.
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RedMolly
July 19, 2010 12:50 PM in reply to thomas1
Not quite. A gaffe is just a faux pas, a public social misstep or blunder. It can be an action or something spoken.
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btmom
July 20, 2010 12:29 PM in reply to thomas1
I think the confusion is that "gaffe" is being used ironically. Yes, the literal definition of gaffe is when you misspeak. But for Republicans, since their SOP is to avoid saying what they really mean, it is a gaffe when they accidentally tell the truth.
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matyra
July 19, 2010 12:54 PM in reply to Matt Jones
Agreed, and there's no need to parse either; her true positions are very stark.
Here's where Nevada Republicans' idea of the Tea Party and the truth were at odds. Angle is quite the extremist.
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ADad
July 19, 2010 3:33 PM in reply to matyra
Exactly. They aren't gaffes. They are her actual views. They are a feature, not a bug.
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davcbr
July 19, 2010 12:56 PM in reply to Matt Jones
I think you both have it wrong. A gaffe being when a person blurts out the truth when mis-speaking his talking point, which was originally intended to obfuscate.
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msc123
July 19, 2010 11:01 AM
I wouldn't get too exicted yet if I were Reid. I've yet to see a poll where he had anything higher than the low to mid 40s. For an entrenched incumbent, that's not a good place to be. I don't care how crazy Angle is, Reid is still very unpopular and I don't see how he gets from the 44% he has now to 50%. His only hope is for there to be a credible 3rd party candidate to take the votes of all of the people who hate Reid but think Angle's crazy (he he can win with the 42-46% he'll end up with on election day).
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W T F
July 19, 2010 12:05 PM in reply to msc123
"Reid remains manifestly unpopular, with more than half of those surveyed indicating they will not vote for him."
Reid's outta there. No way he wins this election. Attempts to make Angle's right-wing extremist positions the focal point of the election will fail. So what if Angle's an extremist, she has one major thing going for her: she's not Harry Reid. So what if she's an extremist; she'll be one of 100 with virtually no power - the Dems will hold the Senate - and she still won't be Harry Reid.
Goodbye and good riddance to Harry Reid. He's done more harm than good to the Democratic cause. He's too focused on the Senate's traditions and completely oblivious to the political message/media control elements that are needed for a modern Majority Leader.
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chameleon
July 19, 2010 2:55 PM in reply to W T F
How ridiculous. To wish for a dem to lose a seat. WTF? Troll much
Plus you are so wrong. Harry will be re-elected hands down. Harry always wins his elections and he was always counted out every time. The voters don't really have a choice in Nevada anymore. Angle made sure of that. Harry has done a lot of great things for Nevada
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Overreach THIS!
July 20, 2010 12:58 AM in reply to W T F
"Reid's outta there. No way he wins this election."
No credible observer believes this. None.
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dwjoae
July 20, 2010 1:57 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
You just defined ignorant with your own words.
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Overreach THIS!
July 21, 2010 1:05 PM in reply to dwjoae
None. N-O-N-E.
None.
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ignoreland
July 19, 2010 11:16 AM
The former state GOP chair had a rather amusing self-destruction after encouraging the use of barter in order to lower health care costs, pining for the days when her grandparents' generation would bring a chick to the doctor.
I know it's Nevada, but can swapping the services of a young woman for medical attention really be legal?
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EnnuiDivine
July 19, 2010 11:49 AM in reply to ignoreland
In every area outside Las Vegas, it is...
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Pete Bilderback
July 19, 2010 11:26 AM
I don't see where Angle has made any "gaffes." To call something a "gaffe" implies the speaker made a mistake or misspoke in some way. Angle has simply articulated her political positions and Nevada voters are finding them too extreme for their tastes.
Perhaps it's a mistake for her to say what she thinks, but these are the same positions that won her the Nevada GOP primary.
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Pope Ratzo
July 19, 2010 12:18 PM
What happens to the GOP if they do NOT take the House back?
I'm betting total meltdown of the 1964 variety, and they don't recover for a generation.
Talk about "measuring the drapes". John Boehner has not only measured for drapes in the Speaker's office, but has picked out lace cozies for the telephone and fax machine and reproductions of Roman statues of Apollo and Dionysus to flank the $25k desk he's picked out.
It's the kind of overconfidence that just begs for divine repudiation of the most humbling kind (assuming one believes in such things, which I doubt Boehner does).
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ejg3
July 19, 2010 12:32 PM in reply to Pope Ratzo
Is Boehner calling Ashcroft for information on statuary drapes?
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CityGuy
July 19, 2010 12:43 PM in reply to ejg3
LOL.
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buddy66
July 19, 2010 2:30 PM
''Gaffe'' can now mean anything you want it to mean. The way Americans lock on a new buzz word is hilarious. Look how we managed to change every problem into an ''issue.'' Or how results no longer have''effects'', they have ''impacts.''
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dougom
July 19, 2010 2:49 PM
I prefer the classic definition of "gaffe", personally: When a politician accidentally utters the truth. It's clear that the vast majority of Angle's "gaffes" are really just her saying what she really believes. Which reveals her as an out-and-out loon.
It's comforting to thing that, yes, there is a limit beyond which the American electorate says, "Nope, this person is too much of a moronic lunatic to put in office." It's not comforting to think that the Republican party has reached a place where such a person can be their party's nominee for high office. But I guess I should take my comfort where I can.
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rachelrachel
July 19, 2010 3:07 PM in reply to dougom
That definition is from columnist, editor, Slate founder, and TV personality Michael Kinsley. Sometimes the expression "Kinsley gaffe" is used. See Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsley_gaffe
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thomas1
July 19, 2010 3:47 PM in reply to rachelrachel
OK, I'll work with that. So then what Angle is saying is not necessarily gaffes (not necessarily the 'truth' or factual) but it is what she actually believes. And, it is outside the mainstream of political thought/practice.
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dougom
July 19, 2010 3:50 PM in reply to thomas1
That's certainly what I think. Similar to Rand Paul. The Republican establishment is obviously trying to tamp down on these folks and make them more palatable/mainstream/less-loony, but as they're clearly way out there on the fringe, it's hard to "soften" their viewpoints.
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ritetime
July 19, 2010 3:42 PM
Why does the media insist on calling these gaffes? What's being said by Angle and like-minded folks are not gaffes - they are not mistakes. It's what these people believe.
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RAM
July 19, 2010 3:53 PM in reply to ritetime
Exactly! What Angle says may be stupid and arrogant but it's no mistake.
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America Needs Us
July 19, 2010 4:05 PM
It's ok to think your candidate is going to win - regardless. But don't count out Sharron just yet. Those of us who pay attention to what she actually says - not take it out of context in an attack ad - don't think her conservative values are so bad. First "Lemons out of Lemonade" - how many today actually know how to do that? Or do we all look for the quick fix? If you TRULY don't believe in abortion, and if you TRULY believe that it is murder, then you don't get to pick and choose what baby lives/dies. Having a baby that was caused by a rape is horrendous but living with the fact that you murdered your baby isn't always the best answer. Sharron isn't wishy washy - she doesn't believe in abortion, period. She does stick to her guns. Oh wait - I can't say that - those of you that can only read between the lines of YOUR candidate - will think I'm talking about shooting someone. Come on people - grow up.
Unemployment - I think the main problem Sharron has with it is WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY! Obama and crew have never put it in the budget. What don't people understand - if you don't have it, you can't spend it! And yes, there are people that really need the money and there are people who never intend on getting a job - I bet if you looked around, you know some of these people.
The deal with City Center - I've lived in Vegas a long time and have seen these mega resorts destroy our town. Now we have this monstrosity city center that had to be bailed out by Reid. We need government to stop bailing businesses out - let the free market decide who survives and who fails.
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July 19, 2010 4:29 PM in reply to America Needs Us
Abortion's legal in this country and her views are draconian.
Hope you don't lose your job and need help when the time comes. Plenty of highly qualified people can't find work. I'm an engineer and out of 100+ job apps got 2 interviews and one offer.
Yes, the free market that cares only for money and will drive down labor costs and increase profits for the CEOs. Yeah, that's a world I want to live in, where only money matters and not quality of life.
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dougom
July 19, 2010 4:51 PM in reply to America Needs Us
1)"Lemons from lemonaide" is blithe and dismissive to women who have just been raped or been the victim of incest.
I also wonder: how many unwanted children has Angle adopted? I despise Tom Delay, but at least he's walking the walk. How about Angle? In my view, any abortion absolutist who doesn't adopt--or at least attempt to--is a flaming hypocrite. (And to answer your question ahead of time: yes, one, even though I am not an abortion absolutist.)
2) We have no money for helping the poor, the unemployed, and the desperate, but plenty of money to extend tax cuts to the rich? How does that work, exactly?
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kgb999
July 19, 2010 5:01 PM in reply to America Needs Us
I'll leave most of your nonsense alone. But as to City Center ... how the hell do you live in Vegas and not know that this had NOTHING to do with a government bailout?
Dubai World defaulted on their end of the agreement and another bank stepped in to provide financing from the PRIVATE SECTOR. That is exactly what you advocate, the market decided that they wanted to invest. Reid just happens to have a big Rolodex and knew someone who might be interested in the opportunity. Made a call. And the two PRIVATE parties were able to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement. That's what a good leader does - fights for the the good of the community they represent with every resource at their disposal. It didn't cost taxpayers a cent and saved 22,000 jobs. THAT'S leadership.
Angle is a fucking idiot. And frankly, you don't seem too far behind.
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Kaneblues
July 19, 2010 5:17 PM in reply to America Needs Us
Republicans have been promising to do away with abortion for decades, yet what have they done? George Bush and republicans held the White House, both houses of congress and the majority of Supreme Court from January 2000 to November 2006, yet what great changes did they make to lower abortions in this country? Despite all the GOP promises, abortion rates did not decline during the Bush years.
Instead of playing politics with abortion, what if there was a way where we could ensure a dramatic decrease in abortions?
Do you think if healthcare was available to all Americans that it might decrease abortions?
Do you think providing economic assistance to women to carry babies to term could actually reduce the number of abortions?
Do you think passing laws to ensure that women receive equal pay as men would lower the abortion rate or increase the abortion rate?
Do you think there's a possibility that in providing middle class families with tax breaks rather than tax breaks for the wealthy that it might have a slight impact on the abortion rate?
Do you think that making education a priority and making college affordable to all Americans might have a positive impact in decreasing the abortion rate?
Do you think that offering incentives and tax breaks to companies to remain in the States rather than providing tax breaks to companies that ship jobs overseas might help our economy and in turn, lower the abortion rate?
Do you think investing in after-school programs and childcare services might have a positive impact in reducing abortions?
We could go on and on. But the point is, if you, Sharron Angle and republicans are truly serious about saving the lives of the unborn, then you must get past the rhetoric of the culture wars that has done nothing but divide us as a nation.
There are viable solutions that Barack Obama and the Democratic party are offering that will in fact help dramatically reduce the abortion rate as we know it. I encourage you to contrast and compare the ideas and proposals being offered by Democrats and those being offered by Republicans. Then ask yourself, which party truly is pro-life?
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FLRealist
July 19, 2010 6:13 PM in reply to America Needs Us
I wonder - would you tell a rape victim to her face that she has no rights compared to the baby of her rapist? Would you really make her go through the mental anguish of morning sickness, high blood pressure, diabetes and other possible physical ailments that put her health at risk for a baby she had forced upon her?
And I wonder whether you would agree to help her support the rapist's baby for 18 years, or would you tell her it's her job since she brought the baby into the world?
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FreemanW
July 19, 2010 7:57 PM in reply to America Needs Us
Uhh, after eight fucking years of Bush/Cheney welfare and government hand-outs for the wealthy, everybody that doesn't belong to the Republican Base of "Haves".
If the Sharron Angle wing of the Reprobates win in 2010, the country loses big--and there is your prima facia evidence of just how broken the education system is in this country.
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Overreach THIS!
July 20, 2010 1:11 AM in reply to America Needs Us
You are picking what you regard as the mildest conservative values, and saying that anybody can disagree about those, so therefore we have to accept this lunatic as reasonable.
You didn't focus on her Bin-Laden-friendly notion of "Second Amendment remedies," very conveniently. It doesn't matter what she *says* that meant; we don't need her interpretation -- there is only one possible meaning. If you don't get your way, you start shooting people. Timothy McVeigh, Sharron Angle. There is a reason why this mouth-frothing seditionist is behind in the polls in a state with 15% unemployment.
Look up sophistry if you don't know the word. And you should really be ashamed of yourself for standing up for this filth.
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dwjoae
July 20, 2010 1:59 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Are you suffering from head trauma?
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Overreach THIS!
July 21, 2010 1:12 PM in reply to dwjoae
Ashamed, that's right. Fucking filth.
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Kaneblues
July 19, 2010 5:03 PM
It is no coincidence that Angle, Rubio, Paul and Fiorina are all slipping in the polls. Each has painted themselves into a corner with their extremist views, and now they are finding it difficult to expand their base. And with each attempt to move to the middle to appeal to moderate and independent voters, their base accuses them of being RHINOs.
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Scribe57
July 19, 2010 5:13 PM
I'm not sure that "mistake" or "gaffe" is the proper term for what Angle did. I mean, didn't she simply say things she believes?
Instead of "Angle made mistakes", wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Angle voiced her beliefs, to the revulsion of most"?
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Mrwilson1
July 19, 2010 6:57 PM in reply to Scribe57
Well said
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kimbanyc
July 19, 2010 5:28 PM
Go Harry
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windowpane
July 19, 2010 6:38 PM
Angle typifies what is wrong with the Tea Party. Over the last several months, as their rhetoric became more hyperbolic and shrill-sounding, Tea Party candidates, including Angle, continued to up the ante until each word out of their pie holes became mre ludicrous than the previous one. Angle tried to surf this wave, but guess what, WIPE OUT!
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America Needs Us
July 19, 2010 7:14 PM
Kyle - just because it's legal, doesn't make it right for everyone. Just because it isn't your viewpoint, doesn't make hers draconian. I am unemployed - and I do not take unemployment. I am working at a job far below my pay scale but I understand broke is broke - and that's where our country is at. Do you understand budgets? I'm not real sure you understand how the free market works, either.
Dougom - and just exactly how many children should she adopt - to make it right in your eyes? What a ridiculous thing to say - so anyone who doesn't support abortion should be forced to adopt - hmmm, even if they can't afford it, perhaps should do so anyway - and go on welfare?
Kqb999 - it isn't necessary to call names - it just shows the world your ignorance. If you believe that about citicenter, you keep on drinking the koolaid.
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kgb999
July 20, 2010 12:41 AM in reply to America Needs Us
Sorry. I think she's a figgin moron. Always have. I figured she (or someone like her) would make a 3rd party run and draw votes from Lowden (or as a long shot Tarkanian). I never in a million years thought the GOP would actually nominate her and send republican votes to Reid directly.
It may not be "all about" City Center. But your characterization of the City Center deal as a government bailout is 100% false. I don't see how you could fail to know that as a LV native. Even having moved away I know many people who were totally on edge about that and totally stoked when it didn't become a disintegrating shell and throw them out of work. It was so widely reported, you really would have to live under a rock to have missed it (or not really live in Southern Nevada). Personally, I'd have preferred to see stadium on the property myself with a professional sports team. But all things considered, I think it's better to get the project done and save the jobs even if it isn't the project I'd have really liked to see. Everyone has such a prejudice against giving us a team, maybe it was for the best anyhow.
And one more thing, if you are working at a job far below your pay scale you aren't unemployed and likely don't qualify for unemployment anyhow. So it's probably for the best that you didn't waste an afternoon in Northtown for the interview. With all due respect, someone who in the same paragraph calls themselves unemployed and then asserts their job doesn't pay well does set themselves up for the occasional suggestion that you might share the trait of idiocy that I know for certain defines Angle.
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jlover
July 19, 2010 8:55 PM
AMERICA NEEDS US--and it's a person's right to take unemployment benefits,and it's a person's right not to take a lesser paying job....... oh and btw your party(gop) put america on this path years ago and just doubled down during W'S 8 years (they wanted to bankrupt our nation)
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kgb999
July 20, 2010 1:10 AM in reply to jlover
Someone would have to be stupid as Angle to not take a job in Las Vegas if you could find it at this point. Of course, they'd also have to be stupid to not accept the benefits of insurance that they had paid into for years. Mr. Free-market-genius here doesn't seem to understand the idea that if you PAY for coverage than it's not a handout once you qualify for benefits. That's WHY you paid in the first place.
But, insurance doesn't generally last forever and I don't think it's actually a "right" to never have to take a job for less money. If someone were to make that choice and their insurance runs out, it would be hard to feel sorry for them. The problem today is that there is legitimately far less work than unemployed people so they need to extend the benefits - which is also perfectly appropriate. Nevada requires a weekly interview (well, usually you call into an automated system) that asks if you have looked for work and if you have turned down a job. Sometimes they even make folks turn in lists of potential employers contacted. They view not seeking work or refusing a position as cause to terminate benefits. If you earn less than your weekly benefit insurance covers the difference (or some such formula). You don't have the luxury of telling them "well, that job just wasn't good enough for ME."
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moveonreid
July 19, 2010 11:03 PM
For a defense of Sharron Angle's positions on The Second Amendment, Abortion, Social Security, and others, please see: http://www.moveonreid.com. She's a constitutional conservative, not the "extremist" she is painted to be.
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Overreach THIS!
July 20, 2010 1:16 AM in reply to moveonreid
She's a freak, a bugfoon, and a seditionist, and you can look up crazy shit on your own time, we're not the slightest bit interested.
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DownriverDem
July 20, 2010 9:00 AM
I am white, but I just have to ask:
1) Are white people out of work and in need of unemployment benefits?
2) Are white people all rich?
3) Why would white people support the repubs who have totally aligned themselves with corporations and their interests?
4) Why would white people support a party that is totally not on their side?
5) Are white people who vote time and time again for repubs which is against their interests just stupid?
6) Or are white people so racist that they are blind to what the repubs are all about?
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America Needs Us
July 20, 2010 10:05 AM
jlover - where do you think unemployment comes from? Note the following:
Unemployment benefits in the United States are paid out of trust funds established by each state. These funds are funded by employer premiums. An employer's premium is determined by its past layoff/claims history and - the more people the employer has claiming unemployment over time, the higher the premiums paid. The employer pays the premium for each worker on its payroll.
On occasion, when state trust funds are depleted, the Federal government will lend money to the state to replenish the fund. However, these are loans and need to be paid back.
How do you figure "it's your right"? And no, if our country doesn't have the money, it is not "your right" to not take a lower paying job. It would help to turn this ecomony around a whole lot quicker.
And to the person who said I wouldn't qualify for unemployment because I was working at a lower paid job - duh - I didn't ever apply for unemployement BECAUSE I went and found a job. I didn't turn my nose up and say "that's not enough money - I'd rather sit on my ass and take unemployment."
Downriver - Wow - maybe you had bettered take a real close look as to what the current admin has done to the economy (and everything else) ALL WITHOUT THE HELP OF BUSH!
Over react this - normally I don't respond to idiotic posts - but to you - "stupid should hurt".
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July 20, 2010 1:22 PM
What's really happening is that the closer we get to election day, the more discerning people get. Sure Angle has made some mistakes but people just weren't paying attention to her before. Hating politicians is a religion in Nevada and hating Harry Reid is the first commandment but as it gets closer to actually electing someone, even Nevadans recognize that Angle is too extreme--particularly on the religious side. BTW, Ralston has been all but predicting a Reid loss for months unlike some of us blogger types ;-)
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