Right Wing Howls: Felons Put Franken Over The Top! (Nope)

I'm beginning to think when Bachmann and company are considered the state is the home of at least 10,000 loons and I'm not referring to the State bird. This this shows that sour grapes need long time to age for a bad whine.

Brought to you by the same party that accused Democrats of "whining" when they contested the FL 2000 results. Nice.

I am grateful that the Dems & Franken fought this without backing down one step. With Coleman sitting, this would have been a disastrous period. With Franken, it has been hopeful and trending ever upward.

A very similar argument failed miserably when the GOP contested the very close WA state governor's result in 2004. They offered statistical models but no actual felons, whereas the Dems produced 3 or 4 felons who signed affadavits saying they voted for the GOP candidate.

The judge threw out the case but deducted four votes from the GOP side of the final tally.

True or not, it doesn't matter, the right-wing has their ball and they will run with it, and every Fox News watcher and AM radio listener will repeat the allegation until it is generally accepted as true by anyone who isn't really paying attention.

But he also termed Franken an "accidental senator," who benefited from court rulings that overlooked an array of alleged voting irregularities.

who benefited from court rulings that overlooked an array of alleged voting irregularities.

Hmmmm, now where oh where have I heard something like that before? hmmmm, why does Florida ring a bell?

Even if the list contains a few accurate names, my guess is that some of those felons are 2nd amendment voters anyway...

Chris Uggen and Jeffrey Manza have both been doing sociological research on felon disenfranchisement for the past decade. So has Marc Mauer at the Washington DC based Sentencing Project. To argue that the vote of convicted felons led to a political victory and that this is a problem is to not only accept the belief that people convicted of a felony offense (which is hugely broad and disproportionately focused on people of color) should lose their right to vote, but to move beyond to the point where such a phenomenon is seen as ideologically natural and common-sensical, and to see the reinstatement of such voting rights as not only political, but as biased in that it will favor democrats.

See some of Chris Uggens work here:
http://www.soc.umn.edu/~uggen/felon_disenfranchisement.htm

Well, first of all I don't believe it. But if it IS true, it is pretty obvious that Minnesotans owe a big debt to illegally voting felons! (I'm pretty sure they know it too)

Wow - I thought Coleman had set the mark for sore losers - but just when you thin k he's finally finished, Faux Nos turns up more inflammatory lies to stoke the crazies.
From the people who elected batshit crazy Bachmann - it's hard to believe Al Franken got any votes!

Minnesota seems to be a microcosm of the larger electorate - sane enough to elect a qualified candidate (Franken) but still enough crazies to slip one by us (Bachmann)

Remember folks - "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Tolstoy

...and somewhere in Florida votes are still being counted.

> Received this from a friend. Good stuff, but don't know really what we
> can do in the long run to fix it. Food for thought......
>
>> This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be Please read
>> the entire article.
>>
>>
>> The article below is completely neutral, not anti republican or
>> democrat.
>>
>> Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel has hit the
>> nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the
>> final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that
>> impact each one of us every day.
>>
>> It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!
>>
>> 545 vs. 300,000,000
>>
>> EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST
>> HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR
>> CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.
>>
>> Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.
>>
>> 545 PEOPLE -- By Charlie Reese
>>
>> Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and
>> then campaign against them.
>>
>> Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are
>> against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
>>
>> Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation
>> and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
>>
>> You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.
>>
>> You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on
>> appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
>>
>> You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
>>
>> You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
>>
>> You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
>>
>> One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme
>> Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are
>> directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the
>> domestic problems that plague this country.
>>
>> I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that
>> problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its
>> Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally
>> chartered, but private, central bank.
>>
>> I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
>> They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a
>> senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.
>> I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.
>> The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what
>> the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to
>> determine how he/she votes.
>>
>> Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that
>> what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con
>> regardless of party.
>>
>> What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive
>> amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a
>> Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating
>> deficits.... . The President can only propose a budget. He cannot
>> force the Congress to accept it.
>>
>> The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole
>> responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and
>> approving appropriations and taxes. House members, not the President,
>> can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can
>> pass it over his veto if they agree to.
>>
>> It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not
>> replace
>> 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence
>> and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that
>> is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp
>> the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal
>> government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to
>> exist.
>>
>> If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
>>
>> If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..
>>
>> If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ
>> If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement
>> plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
>>
>> There are no insoluble government problems.
>>
>> Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they
>> hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and
>> advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to
>> regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let
>> them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical
>> forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them
>> from doing what they take an oath to do.
>>
>> Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
>>
>> They, and they alone, have the power..
>>
>> They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are
>> their bosses.
>>
>> Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...
>>
>> We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
>>
>> Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.
>>
>> What you do with this article now that you have read it......... Is up
>> to you.
>>
>>
>> Sales Tax
>> School Tax
>> Liquor Tax
>> Luxury Tax
>> Excise Taxes
>> Property Tax
>> Cigarette Tax
>> Medicare Tax
>> Inventory Tax
>> Real Estate Tax
>> Well Permit Tax
>> Fuel Permit Tax
>> Inheritance Tax
>> Road Usage Tax
>> CDL license Tax
>> Dog License Tax
>> State Income Tax
>> Food License Tax
>> Vehicle Sales Tax
>> Gross Receipts Tax
>> Social Security Tax
>> Service Charge Tax
>> Fishing License Tax
>> Federal Income Tax
>> Building Permit Tax
>> IRS Interest Charges
>> Hunting License Tax
>> Marriage License Tax
>> Corporate Income Tax
>> Personal Property Tax
>> Accounts Receivable Tax
>> Recreational Vehicle Tax
>> Workers Compensation Tax
>> Watercraft Registration Tax
>> Telephone Usage Charge Tax
>> Telephone Federal Excise Tax
>> Telephone State and Local Tax
>> IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
>> State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
>> Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
>> Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
>> Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
>> Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
>> Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax
>> Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
>> Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
>>
>>
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>> the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
>>
>> What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians? ' I hope this
>> goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!!
>> YOU can help it get there!!!
>> GO AHEAD - - - BE AN AMERICAN!!!
>>
>> PS.
>>
>> If you do the right thing and pass this on - which is entirely up to
>> you -
>> please do the right thing and highlight and delete any addresses you
>> receive with it.
>>
>> Thank You.
>
> Take care all.

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Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds. Jeremiah 14:14

Just because they claim to be the Christians Right does not make them Christians OR right...

Isn't it obvious that Republicans should always win every election, regardless of the vote count?

The felon who really helped Al win is named Norm Coleman.

Thousands of unindicted felons voted for Coleman. They're called corporate Republicans.

When you have to make things up your position does not hold water

Funny; I heard Franken won because Minnesota - after 8 years of watching the antics of unconvicted felons - decided to go for law and order.

To be clear.....Buchanan is McCarthy in lipstick. Lip stick on a pig is still a pig. Why are so many Americans embracing Buchanan, Palin, and the Tea Partiers?....they are little more than McCarthyism. South Africa and many other nations have moved away from racism and segregation and hate and ethnic and religious divides.....but the US seems to be heading backwards and into repressive territory with the likes of Buchanan, Pawlenty, McConnell, Palin, Cheney, Rove, and others. Why aren't Americans outraged by these radicals that call them selves conservatives....they aren't conservatives at all...they are threats to democracy and equal rights.

Wasn't the Franken/Coleman recount about the most thorough in U.S. history? If there was a crime in there someplace, the court would have addressed it? The only felony I recall, was the question about Coleman's juggling of funds from a contact of his wife and whether it broke the law.

Cheating during elections is a time honored American habit. Being certain of the validity of the outcome is not easy.

So far as I am concerned Bush never won the 2000 election but his dady and his dady's friends had pull in the SCOTUS and got him appointed to the office. A study of the 2004 election clearly demostrates that at least in Ohio the ballots were tampered with to help Bush win.