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Tea Party Express' Mark Williams: NAACP's Use Of 'Colored' Makes It Racist


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The Tea Party Express' Mark Williams -- fresh off his claim that the NAACP makes "more money off of race than any slave trader, ever" -- took to his personal blog today to offer an at least racist-ish screed calling out the NAACP for continuing to use the word "Colored" in its name.

In the post, Williams calls NAACP President Ben Jealous "Tom's Nephew" and ties tea party calls for smaller government to "emancipation" (which, of course, is just steps away from the standard tea party line that Democratic policies amount to "tyranny.")

But the central theme centers around, as Williams writes, the "absurdity of a group that calls blacks 'Colored People' hurling charges of racism."

Here's a sample (the post is written in the form of a mock letter to President Abraham Lincoln from Jealous):

We Colored People have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!

That's just the introduction. Here's the good stuff:


Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government "stop raising our taxes." That is outrageous! How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?

Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong.

Again, for the record: this how an official at the Tea Party Express explains how not racist the Tea Party is.

(h/t Media Matters)

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July 15, 2010 7:18 PM   

Because nothing says "not racist" quite like white folks making fun of black folks and their primary civil rights organization.

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July 15, 2010 11:02 PM    in reply to sherifffruitfly

Actually stupid Mr. Williams, people within a group can call themselves whatever they like. Racism becomes involved when a white Republican or southern White Democrat or any other racist uses the N word or some other reprehensible, racist comment. But only some white person could come up with the EXCUSE of comparing comments to prove thzat THEY are not racists. I guess you have never lived in the racist areas and watched some dork pick on some little Black or Mexiczn kid using some racial slur. but on the other hand, it is equally as reprehensable if some ethnic person uses hate filled speech in speaking to some white kid. Sorry to tell you racism is not cornered by any particular group. However, the power base in this country is white and that gives a white kid the ability to handle racist comments for the most part. God help us all to develop color blindness and only to pay attention to the content of the souls of others.

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July 16, 2010 10:48 AM    in reply to mJJ

I am so offended that they name themselves after an organization that really wanted liberty who were against the British East India Tea Company a corporation.

These bozos worship thieving blood sucking corporations as their god.

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July 17, 2010 8:37 PM    in reply to lyris

Good point and one that gets lost in the blether of fools like this. Who knew sheep could be so noisy? Stupid, yes, sheep are that but these are taking up all the oxygen in the political atmosphere.

Inadvertent?

I doubt it.

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July 15, 2010 7:22 PM   

They just can't shut their stupid, fat mouths.

This is the legacy of Limbaugh. Idiots who think that every odius mouth-fart that comes out of their pieholes is wonderful and sacred and worthy of repetition.

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July 15, 2010 10:36 PM    in reply to Morbo

This sounds like my friend Russell in Houston. When I joked that he loved Mel Gibson, Russell said, "He's not as bad as Jesse Jackson!" Hatred of African-American's is the #1 issue for Tea Baggers.

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July 16, 2010 11:02 AM    in reply to traitorjoe

Racism is not about blacks and whites. I agree with your friend that Gibson is not as bad as Jackson. NO, not because he is black you ignorant bigots. Because he is annoying and pulls the race card ALL the time.

The sooner people racism is a state of mind beyond just white oppression over the black people, the sooner it will stop and we can have a mature, open dialogue.

The "Tea Party Express" and the NAACP are both to blame in the hatred game. This all needs to stop.

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July 16, 2010 10:51 AM    in reply to Morbo

But that's good Morbo, it exposes them as the racists they are. Decent people will runaway from them.

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July 28, 2010 12:27 AM    in reply to Morbo

Since the increase of cocaine is hitting us now, do you think they took the example of Rush and are snorting it up their nose?

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July 15, 2010 7:24 PM   

Mark Williams must own a shovel factory.

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July 16, 2010 10:30 AM    in reply to TBender

I believe it's ax handles

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July 15, 2010 7:25 PM   

They almost seem relieved to have their racist beliefs out in the open. They are also acting drunk with their perceived power. I can only hope their run is about over.

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July 15, 2010 7:30 PM    in reply to Doosmom

No, not hardly. 2012 though will probably be the end of it. I'll tell you how it will play out.

At some rally, someone is going to yell something out, carry a sign that catches on, do *something* that is undeniably racist and it will be caught on camera. Chances are, it'll be at a town hall or somesuch. The 2012 candidate (Palin) will laugh uncomfortably when the racist remark is made or sign is hoisted but the crowd will enthusiastically support the speaker. In order to not lose the crowd or break the bond, the candidate will say something like "that's right" or "good point" and then try to move on (although, if it's Palin, she might just flat out agree with them at first). But it won't work. The racism will be out there for everyone to see in such a manner that only FOX will be able to pretend that it wasn't racist. It'll go on for a few days and then the candidate will try to say that they were misunderstood or that the 'lamestream media' is out to get them, but the damage will be done.

THEN the Tea Party will be done but we have twenty-four more months of this.

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July 15, 2010 9:54 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

I think that the GOP machine will kill the Tea Party before that.
Oh, it was all a big love fest when the Tea Baggers were focused on bullying Democrats ... but then they started to noticed that some of these established politicians were in fact Republicans and started to run against THEM.

That was the beginning of the end for this astro-turf movement.

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July 16, 2010 10:54 AM    in reply to justaJ0e

They are one of the same which is why I call them the teabagging/gop. Look who has funded them, Dick Armey former gop rep. and lobbyist.

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July 16, 2010 10:42 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

Nutwings never seem to end no matter what they call themselves, they always come back.

Oh for the days when they locked up these loonies in the rubber room.

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July 15, 2010 7:25 PM   

Sweet Jesus! This is one of the things that I knew was going to happen when these Tea Party folks started talking about the NAACP. To them, the NAACP sprang into existence in 2008 and before that, I doubt that 90% of them knew that august organization existed.

Since there are some Tea Party people who are going to post in defense of this statement and try to argue that the NAACP is racist because it uses the term 'colored'.

That was the term that was in common use in 1909 when the organization was founded. Since then we have gone through a number of iterations (pretty much one a generation) used for blacks...colored-->negro--black--afro-american--african american. Given this historical fact, one can see that the NAACP isn't going to rebrand itself. Just as 20th century Fox didn't rebrand itself 21st century Fox in 2001.

The fake letter to Lincoln says far more about the Tea Party than all of their press releases.

And to the Tea Partiers who like to troll here...

Half of all black people in America are middle-class. We earned our way there in spite of opposition from people with the mindset on display in the fake letter above.

Black people aren't looking for a handout unless you define a handout as knocking it off with the stereotypes, assumptions and outright hostile behavior.

Your assumption that black people don't want to work is a long-standing stereotype and is racist at its core.

Your assumption that black people just want a handout is a long-standing steroetype and is racist at its core.

Your assumption that black people don't pay taxes, don't work hard, don't contribute to society or if we do we are the 'exception' in a race of free riders and sloths is racist at its core.

Your assumption that black people do not and cannot think for ourselves or do not want to is a stereotype and racist to its core.

There is NOTHING in that 'letter' that has not been said about black people since the very first of us set foot on these shores.

And one more thing, since I'm in a truth-telling mood. The following are all true, since the Tea Party likes to pretend that 1960 was the pre-Cambrian era.

1) I am the first member of my family (immediate or extended) to *never* spend a day in a segregated classroom.
2) I am the first member of my family to have only ever lived in integrated neighborhoods.
3) I am the first member of my family to have never known a day I couldn't go to the library or the public pool because blacks weren't allowed on that day.
4) I am the first member of my family to have no memory of using a 'colored only' restroom or taking a drink of water from a 'colored only' water fountain.
5) I was born in 1967

So, you really going to say that 1967--a mere 43 years, just two generations--is ancient history beyond the living memory of any person who isn't senile and so what's the big deal? More than half the people at Tea Party rallies--from what I can tell both from media and locally--are more than 10 years my senior. Which means, depending upon where they grew up, they *do* remember the water fountains, the colored only restrooms, and all the other accouterments of segregation. You going to tell me that it's all water under the bridge and something no living person remembers? Really?

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July 15, 2010 7:36 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

C'mon. Learn to make your point in a paragraph. And enough with the "this is my story" screeds. Nobody cares. You're just another poster on a blog.

This is about the NAACP and the Tea Party, not your family saga. Save it for the psychiatrist's couch. Geez.

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July 15, 2010 7:48 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Who cares? I care.

What is wrong with you? That was very moving post. Why don't you try keeping your yap shut now and again and letting other people have their say?

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July 15, 2010 9:56 PM    in reply to slb

Maybe the first time she posted it. But after the 10th time, it's kinda just a pathetic excuse for attention.

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July 15, 2010 11:51 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Talk about as pathetic excuse for attention. How many comments have you posted here?

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July 16, 2010 2:36 PM    in reply to FreeRider

First time I've seen it. And about the 500th time I've seen you trashing someone for posting on this site.

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July 16, 2010 3:17 PM    in reply to slb

U LIE!

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July 15, 2010 7:56 PM    in reply to FreeRider

No, sir, this is about racism. Racism affects people--something that I think folks like you forget. Behind all your signs, behind all your rhetoric, there are real people. I get it in the 'abstract' there's this group called the NAACP that you and the Tea Party cannot see what good it has ever done anyone. I understand that to you, this is all just so much high level abstraction. However, at the end of the day, sir this is about actual people whose lives were made substantially better than they otherwise would have been because of the efforts of an organization that the Tea Party calls a far-left socialist organization.

As far as my bringing in personal experience, I do it when relevant and here it is relevant sir. The Tea Party likes to pretend that 'racism' was something that happened back so long ago that no living person can even remember what it was like when segregation was the way of the world for blacks in America. Bringing up the fact--and it is a fact--that any black person born before me had a *very* different experience because of the efforts of--you guessed it, the NAACP--and that I wasn't born in the 20s, 30s or 40s but in the late 60s makes that very visceral.

I understand, as well, that this is just so much political gamesmanship but it's not. Mr. Williams attitude are things I have had said to my face--not in 1950 but in 2009. Not in some forgotten outpost of the Klan but at work, in a corporate environment. This isn't about psychological health and the day I need any given white person to give me psychological health (well, my partner not-with-standing) then someone should go ahead and measure me for a casket because I'm dead already. This is about bringing it down from the level of abstraction, where this conversation would be far more comfortable for you, and making it real, making it clear that behind all of this were real people. Those pictures of civil rights marchers you see were real people. Some of those real people are people I am related to. So all this talk of the psychiatrist couch is just an attempt to get a rise out of me. It's not going to work. For the best part of a year, there was a racist who trolled soc.culture.african-american where I participated on a daily basis. He would call me every permutation of the n-word that you wish to contemplate and I realized during that period that the key to arguing on the net is to *never* let someone rattle your cage with their little jabs.

You may not like my writing style, you may not like my verbosity, you may not like the fact that I remind people of the inconvenient fact that the NAACP is not what you would like to make it out to be--but I'm not here for you to like what I say. I'm here to say what I have to say. If the NAACP did *not* achieve all that they did for black people, then show me wrong. But you can't, can you?

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July 15, 2010 8:05 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

I really enjoyed your post. I think "FreeRider" was just trying to neutralize the powerful point you made.

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July 15, 2010 8:40 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Beautiful reply. You are absolutely dead on when you say this conversation needs to come down from the abstract into the human realm of things. The dehumanizing needs to end, it is the only way people can justify hating another human being, that is what those ugly words are for. I greatly enjoyed your passion.

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July 15, 2010 9:58 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Still haven't got that paragraph thing figured out, have you?

Yes, it's about racism, which is why recounting your family history over and over is trying to hijack the thread and make it all about you.

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July 15, 2010 10:14 PM    in reply to FreeRider

No, FreeRider, I'm trying to make this about people and take it out of the realm of abstraction. If we have this debate on your terms then it's about the NAACP being this leftist/socialist/Marxist organization that has never done anyone any good. I'm not going to have this discussion on your terms because your terms are inaccurate. The NAACP is no more a leftist, socialist organization than the NRA is. This isn't about getting attention for myself. I use my personal experience and the experience of my family because it is an American experience--which the Tea Party also do not wish to acknowledge.

I cannot help but notice that you seem to have nothing to say about the NAACP's history because, not to put too fine a point on it, you know nothing about the organization and were largely unaware of its existence until recently . So you want to make this about me by trying to critique my writing (I use as many words needed to make the point) or to imply I need psychiatric help or that I am seeking attention from you or approval from whites generically. It's not going to work.

So let's talk about the NAACP and what it has accomplished. The NAACP gave us Brown v. Board. The NAACP gave us the Birmingham Bus boycott. Were these socialist plots? They were certainly considered to be so by the paleo=conservatives. The NAACP gave us desegregation. The NAACP gave us equal employment opportunity. Were these socialist plots? Were these racist? At what point, precisely (within 10 years), did the NAACP become a left-wing, socialist, racist organization? When? 1960? 1970? 1980? 1990? 2000?

You want to argue that the NAACP is racist, then the ball is in your court, sir. Not mine. As Carl Sagan once observed "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof", I would argue that saying the NAACP is a racist and socialist organization is an extraordinary claim.

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July 16, 2010 6:57 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

A paragraph. OK. Work on that.

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July 16, 2010 8:58 AM    in reply to FreeRider

Why don't you work on talking about the NAACP? When I need an editor, I know where to find one.

Wait, I think I know the answer to that. Because you actually no bugger all about the NAACP, were only vaguely aware of its existence until this whole thing happened, and actually can't explain when or how the NAACP became a 'socialist, racist' organization. So instead, you're going to try to get after me for being verbose (I recognize I am, so what?) or for talking about personal experience. One more time, Free, when we're talking about black people and racism we are not talking about some abstraction called 'black people' and we're not talking about some idea racism that does not effect actual people. Sorry it makes you uncomfortable, but real people ARE affected by racism--even if you don't see that they are.

So, when, Free, are you going to have a single constructive thing to say in this discussion because so far, not to put too fine a point on the matter, you have contributed exactly nothing to it. Verbose, terse, abstracted or personal your contribution has added nothing and this discussion could have proceeded apace had you merely posted punctuation. I'm still waiting to see if you have anything of value to say, I expect I shouldn't hold off my next meal until you do because starvation is a terrible way to die.

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July 16, 2010 10:20 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

Freerider thinks Ladyfranctal is long-winded blowhard so therefore Freerider must hate the NAACP. That's brilliant reasoning.

You're just like Williams--accusing people of saying and believing things based on nothing. Find one instance where I have said anything remotely negative about the NAACP.

That's your way to deflect the personal criticism of YOU.

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July 16, 2010 11:13 AM    in reply to FreeRider

*YAWN*

FreeRider, when you find yourself in a hole, it's time to stop digging.

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July 16, 2010 11:40 AM    in reply to cwnidog

I'm in a hole? Why is that, oh wise one? Because I told lady whoever to stop posting fucking books?

Or is it because, after 3 years posting here, I've been accused of being a right-winger who hates the NAACP?

Yeah, I'm really out on a limb. Thanks for your concern.

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July 16, 2010 1:30 PM    in reply to FreeRider

You're in a hole re: telling her not to post "books", O, Dense One. I don't think that anyone who reads your substantive posts (as opposed to those snarky little "*yawns*" and "firebagger" comments you've become known for) would mistake you for a teatard. At least I don't think you are.

As she pointed out, if you haven't got the attention span, just skip or skim. Unless, of course, you're being paid to read all the posts to make sure that the Administration line is defended from every possible heretic. I don't think that's the case, it's just the only reason I can think of that you'd really care about reading every word.

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July 16, 2010 2:04 PM    in reply to cwnidog

Telling her not to post books puts me in a hole? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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July 16, 2010 3:11 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I didn't think you'd understand, more's the pity.

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July 16, 2010 3:18 PM    in reply to cwnidog

Save your pity for someone who needs it, like you.

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July 17, 2010 12:57 AM    in reply to FreeRider

Free rider rocks !!!

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July 16, 2010 11:31 AM    in reply to FreeRider

Freerider, you think I’m a long-winded blowhard. Okay. I think you are a wanker who thinks that snarky comments will do the work of intelligence. Alright.

I do find it ironic, Free, that you got on my case about talking about my personal experience with what the NAACP has done and yet the only thing you seem interested in discussing on this thread is me. I have yet to see you post a single thing related to this thread that is not about me. This is why I think you are a snarky wanker with nothing of value to add to the discussion.

The nice thing is, if I choose to be, I can be as cool and removed from this subject and as terse as I wish. You, on the other hand, will still have nothing of any value to add no matter how many or few words you post.

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July 16, 2010 11:36 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

Since you've convinced yourself (based on absolutely nothing) that I believe the NAACP is a racist/socialist organization, your reasoning on all things is suspect.

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July 16, 2010 11:47 AM    in reply to FreeRider

And you continue to post things that add no more value to this discussion than would, say, a 'hello world' script written in the programming language of your choice.

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July 16, 2010 12:14 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

What value have you added to the discussion by retelling your family story over and over?

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July 16, 2010 12:23 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I have, at least, talked about what the NAACP did to move America to a more integrated society. You posted snark. I mentioned specific instances of what the NAACP did. You posted snark. I have requested that those who think that the NAACP is a socialist and/or racist organization to support their argument beyond just fiat. You posted snark. I talked about (in three posts, mind you) how the NAACP's efforts made the life of my family substantially better. You posted snark.

So, let's see here...
me = posting on the topic. Actually discussing the NAACP.
you = Snark

And Free, do you really think I give a tinker's damn what you think of me? I don't care if you've been posting on TPM for the term of your entire life, three years of worthless snark is still worthless. You could post a string a random numbers and it would be just as useful and insightful.


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July 16, 2010 12:45 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Yes, I DO believe that you care what I think of you. Me and everyone else on this blog because you've spent the last few days talking about yourself.

You wouldn't do that if unless you cared what anonymous strangers on a blog thought.

But you also thought I supported the tea party and opposed the NAACP so your track record is really bad.

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July 16, 2010 12:53 PM    in reply to FreeRider

LOL!!!! Really? You just don't get it do you, Free? You really don't understand that sometimes, the best way to make a point is to make it personal. It seems to me that you are in a distinct minority here...everyone else here seems to have understood the point I was making in the two NAACP threads. Only you appear to have missed it.

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July 16, 2010 12:58 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Boy. You really wanna be liked, don't you? Poor thing.

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July 16, 2010 1:02 PM    in reply to FreeRider

You are assuming facts not in evidence, Free. That said, I would rather be liked than loathed. Being loathed doesn't make you a great independent thinker standing alone against a society that is unworthy of your erudition. Nine times out of ten, it just means you're a wanker. I understand you've told yourself that the contempt people throw at you means you are profound thinker and rugged individualist. You're wrong. You're just a wanker.

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July 16, 2010 2:03 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Talk about assuming facts not in evidence!

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July 16, 2010 4:19 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Why/How/When is the NAACP socialist? Is that what you wanted, because I'll Give it to you. Why/How/Why is it racist? Can you explain it? I will point out any logical fallacies you have, and be as patient as I can be with if there are any. If you don't respond it wouldn't surprise me, but if you do it seems like fun watching you explain a position I don't think is true. So go on...

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July 16, 2010 4:31 PM    in reply to Travis

Barking up the wrong tree, there Travis since I have never suggested, implied or even remotely alleged those things about the NAACP.

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July 16, 2010 1:46 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

You know, I'd like to read this, but I don't have a spare two weeks right now.........

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July 15, 2010 8:06 PM    in reply to FreeRider

I'm interested in fractal's post.

Even at liberal blogs, the readership and commentariat is heavily white and male.

If a post longer than a paragraph can't hold your attention, just skip it.

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July 15, 2010 10:00 PM    in reply to Nancy Irving

How do you know that most of the posters are white males? Just because people don't post their life stories to strangers on a blog.

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July 16, 2010 2:21 AM    in reply to FreeRider

Some of the larger and or/establishment site blogs (including TPM) do surveys or hire someone to do demographic surveys, mainly for the purpose of advertising sales.

You may recall Josh Marshall periodically asking readers to fill in such a survey.

I based my statement on my memory of the results of such which I have seen.

Political blog readership also skews middle-aged, by the way.

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July 16, 2010 12:48 AM    in reply to FreeRider

response says more about you than your family wants to admit. FreeRider offers an intelligent, reasoned analytical response. You are offering ad hominems and non sequitors. Silly wabbit.

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July 16, 2010 12:51 AM    in reply to Maineblackbear

ooooooppppssssss . . . ladyfracta awesome. Freerider sux.

I simply mis-typed. To be honest, many said it better than me. freerider just a troll----- mbb

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July 16, 2010 11:59 AM    in reply to FreeRider

Wow.

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July 16, 2010 4:16 PM    in reply to FreeRider

ADHD much?

I mean, whether or not you agree with the poster's point, as long as it's well written and generally understandable, what's your issue?

Not everyone writes in soundbite-form and not all of us read expecting it to be in soundbite-form. (Especially when you consider the complexity of the subject matter)

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July 17, 2010 4:44 AM    in reply to FreeRider

FreeRider:

That was one of the most articulate comments on here, and furthermore, the personal "story" was relevant, as it was in response to claims Williams made. It's nice and easy to just call out Williams as the huge asshole that he is, but making a point, defending it, and shredding someone else's, that takes a little longer, and a bit more space. And that's what she did.
Chillax. If it's too long, just don't read it.

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July 17, 2010 3:55 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Don't like what the OP has to say? Don't read it. Don't tell me, or anyone else, for that matter, what you have to say about the OP's post. I can read and think for myself, thank you.

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July 18, 2010 9:17 AM    in reply to thepoliticalcat

Don't like what I have to say about OP's post? Don't read it.

Take your own advice.

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July 15, 2010 7:38 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Hear, here! Well said.

As for the teabaggers, they don't want to pay taxes but they want their Social Security, their Medicare and their farm subsidy checks to keep rolling in and they want to drive their SUV's on the interstate highways to visit the national parks. THEY are the ones who want something for nothing.

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July 15, 2010 7:39 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

+10

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July 15, 2010 8:07 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

~snarky tea-partier mode ON!~

Your' not 'colored'! And you damn well know it! You wrote too clearly to be 'colored'! You didn't have no negro dialect!

~snarkiness OFF~

It amazes me that to counter accusations of racism, that one of the tea party 'spokesmen' would start spewing racist BS.

Just when I thought nothing these fools said could amaze me.

What's more, the NAACP condemnation was really quite mild, and these people clearly never read it. It was very very clear that, the 'movement' isn't a racist one (like neo-nazi or KKK), but that they don't bother to squash the overt racism that shows up that their rallies and the blog posts of their 'leaders'.

Granted, conservatives feel that anyone that disagrees with them is evil and anti-american at best, so I guess I can't honestly say that I'm surprised.

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July 15, 2010 8:59 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

I was born in 1962, and remember going to motels on vacation with the vacancy light flashing...and when my dad would go in to rent a room, they turned the sign off and said they had no vacancies...until we left that is. My parents, even though they lived in a large town in northern Illinois since 1942, were not allowed to vote in a presidential election until John F. Kennedy in 1959. Before that they were given a 'literacy' test. Like asking my mom to name Shakespere's sonnets. When she could not answer that question, even though she had an education up to 11th grade, she was turned away. This is not ancient history...

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July 16, 2010 8:40 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

ladyfractal: Thank you very much for your comment. I consider myself a liberal with a good grounding in civil rights history (including the source of the C in NAACP), but I read every word of your testimony and learned a great deal.

The attacks on the length of your comment are a testimony to its profundity and how uncomfortable it makes the attackers.

I look forward to reading more from you.

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July 16, 2010 10:13 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

Awesome post. I was born in 1963, and I recall going to summer camp in a bus that was old enough to have the demarcation line painted on the inside that said COLORED|WHITES. I also remember the reaction from the people we now call teabaggers when Louisville, Kentucky, was ordered by the courts to desegregate their schools by busing students. That was in 1974, and it wasn't pretty, to say the least.

So no, I don't believe America was ever "cured" of racism. Like a recovering alcoholic, we have to deal with it one day at a time.

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July 16, 2010 10:40 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

Excellent post. Well-reasoned and beautifully stated. Bravo.

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July 16, 2010 1:09 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Lady Fractal, you are awesome. Your story is our history, and completely to the point. It drives me around the bend when people think racism, and sexism, is something that was solved long ago, and couldn't possibly apply anymore. It does, obviously. Racism is alive and well, as evidenced by this tea-party moron.

And good on you for not allowing trolls to define how the debate should be framed. That's just another way of silencing opposition.

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July 16, 2010 1:21 PM    in reply to Pfil_bc

It's fascinating how Williams, realizing that he went one stereotype too is now trying to issue the non-apology apology "If anyone was offended". I'm actually rather surprised he did it so quickly, I was rather expecting him to go through the weekend saying something along the lines of "I'm just saying what everyone knows is true". Obviously with Dick Armey backing, they've got some marketing person who boxed Williams' ears because that was so classically stupid that they'll be teaching that in poli sci classes for years under "how NOT to prove your movement is racist".

Another irony I realized during my commute this morning is that this "socialist, racist" organization was founded, in part, by one of the conservatives favorite blacks who isn't MLK--namely W.E.B DuBois. So if I'm understanding the tea party logic, the NAACP is a Marxist, socialist, racist organization founded by a black man who was obsessed with uplift and self-determination and who had, amongst its many illustrious members, one Martin Luther King who conservatives have belatedly discovered they love.

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July 16, 2010 2:21 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

Very well said. Thank you.

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July 20, 2010 11:21 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

Very good post that CONCISELY presents a complicated issue with a long history. Forget about replying to FreeRider because whether TP'ers are racist or not, if any of them could read more than a paragraph, they would have to confront the folly of their positions.

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July 15, 2010 7:29 PM   

Tom's Nephew...I get it, referencing Uncle Tom.

Clever guy.

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July 15, 2010 9:08 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

Yeah. But not that he's racist or anything. Black guy in the White House? Just a coincidence. Look at how all these Teanuts protested when Shrub ran up 90% of the current debt! OH WAIT... they didn't did they??

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July 15, 2010 7:35 PM   

What an ignoramus. The NAACP was founded in 1909, at a time when "colored" was the most positive term being used to describe blacks and native Americans. It has been retained in the organization's name as part of its tradition.

But even now, while the term sounds somewhat outdated, there has never been anything derogatory associated with its use.

There is, however, plenty that is derogatory and racist in Williams's screed. And this is somehow supposed to show that he is not a racist? He sounds like an 1868 issue of the Richmond [VA] Daily Dispatch I once read that included a rant against the Freedman's Bureau, laying at their feet the death from starvation of a black man found in the street, saying he had died of "too much freedom and too little cornbread."

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July 15, 2010 7:35 PM   

Was there a single non-white person in that crowd?

This is getting a bit frightening, these people are like a powder keg with a wet fuse and a box of old matches.

Here's hoping that fuse stays wet.

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July 16, 2010 12:37 AM    in reply to JEP07

Reminds me of the crowds lined up to pay final respects to Ronald Reagan at the Capitol a few years ago. The only non-white faces were the Marines guarding the coffin.

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July 18, 2010 9:54 AM    in reply to Scott in PacNW

Aah yes, that week long funeral procession. How could we forget? What a disgusting display.

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July 15, 2010 7:45 PM   

I know I'm gonna catch alot of heat for what im about to say but i don't see anything wrong with what he(mark) said. it seems to me that The Naacp only wants to promote a socialist agenda and will label whoever disagrees with the as racists! The Naacp should be ashamed of themselves

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July 15, 2010 7:50 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

And how, exactly, is the NAACP promoting a "socialist agenda"?

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July 15, 2010 8:02 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

Yip...Freedom for every single race, no matter what their level of melanin, sure is Socialist!

Would you be saying that if Blacks were the majority and a version of the NAACP was fighting for white peoples' rights? I bet not, fucking hypocrite.

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July 15, 2010 8:04 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

You are the biggest bunch of driveling morons I've ever seen.

"How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn".

If you want to sign off on that, it's a free country but quit whining that you are being persecuted because someone points out that you are bunch of bigoted, stupid, scum.

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July 15, 2010 8:13 PM    in reply to Ed

Now this is convenient. We don't even have to seek out evidence of tea bagger racism, it comes right to us!

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July 15, 2010 11:44 PM    in reply to Ed

Amen!

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July 15, 2010 8:07 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

So wanting equal rights is socialism? And the pursuit of that is following a Socialist agenda? So, by that rationale, capitalism is wanting unequal rights (or racism) to flourish. Plus, the Tea Partiers call Obama Socialist, so they are calling him racist.

So the ones for equal rights are racist and those against it are not. Using this logic, I can call someone an asshole and it mean that they are an good person?

Suddenly the irony has become confusion.

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July 15, 2010 8:16 PM    in reply to matyra

Now you've got it - up is down, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, war is peace, tax cuts increase tax revenues. Isn't conservative doublethink fun?

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July 16, 2010 3:37 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Especially if it's something a five-year-old can dismantle with ease.

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July 15, 2010 8:31 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

You wouldn't know what a "socialist agenda" is if it bit you in the ass. Your "knowledge" is nothing more than cliches and propagandistic sound bytes.

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July 15, 2010 8:33 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

and I might add, you wouldn't recognize racism if it bit you in the ass, either. Williams' screed was dripping with blatant racism and if you don't recognize it, you are ignorant about the subject.

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July 15, 2010 9:37 PM    in reply to Teaparty American

I can remember seeing coverage in a 1960's string of pictures of a civil rights demonstration in a book and one of the signs said 'Race Mixing is Communism'. I think somewhere, in a garage or attic, that sign is probably behind an old sofa or something. So ask your parents where they actually hid it so you can wave it too. Also, find Silence, a fellow racist denier, as I'm sure he is somewhere channelin ghis inner Klansman. Enjoy the link....anyone you know? The crowd looks very curiously the same as today's with exception of women wearing 'Far Side' glasses....
http://www.racialicious.com/2009/10/13/%E2%80%9Crace-mixing-is-communism/

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July 16, 2010 12:11 AM    in reply to Teaparty American

Teaparty;

This is why people think the Tea Party is racist. Here is what is racist in what he said:

"Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!"

This myth that black people do not, cannot or will not think for ourselves is racist. This myth that blacks do not take responsibility for ourselves is racist.

"How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?"

You don't see how this suggestion that black people do not want to be productive members of society is racist? You don't see how this suggestion that black people just want a handout is racist?

THESE are racist statements, Tea Party. Every single one of them is a racist statement with a long, long provenance in this country. 75 years ago, the same kinds of things were being said. 150 years ago, the same thing was being said.

The statement was racist and the fact that none of the Tea party defenders here have yet to condemn this statement nor will they condemn it, demonstrates the racism just beneath the surface of the Tea Party better than anything else ever could.

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July 15, 2010 7:59 PM   

Wow. These remarks are simply unbelievable.

And even more so, since the Tea Party Express is a creature of the establishment (it's a FreedomWorks creation). It's not one of the grassroots Tea Party groups.

This should be running on every TV news show. Will it be?

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July 16, 2010 2:39 PM    in reply to Nancy Irving

You should have heard Williams on The Thom Hartmann Program earlier this week. You can tell how slimy he is just by the sound of his voice.

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July 15, 2010 8:01 PM   

Are these people for real?

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July 15, 2010 8:05 PM   

Interesting that even most of the comments on his blog are against him. It's also been posted to the Tea Party Nation forum where there are several anti-NAACP threads, we'll see what they say.

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July 15, 2010 8:10 PM   

I'm sure the author of this letter will be *baffled* by the fact that people might find it offensive. After all, everyone at the country club, the KKK meeting *and* the The Church of Jesus Christ Christian didn't see anything wrong with it...

All he needs now is a watermelon reference and maybe an illustration or two from "A. Wyatt Mann". (warning to the easily offended: googling that may turn up stuff that even Stormfront members are offended by...)

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July 15, 2010 8:11 PM   

I'm surprised that they aren't saying that the "C" in NAACP is spelled 'Coloured' and claiming that they not only does that word being used imply racism, but unAmericanism as well.

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July 15, 2010 8:20 PM   

Where's that gavel? OK, (knock, knock, knock)
House Leader speaks: Ladies and Gentlemen, may I have your attention. We Democrats are having this closed door meeting today after hearing comments from White House Press Secretary Gibbs about Republicans taking control of the House in the fall. I am sure everyone here today realizes what "dire straits" we find ourselves in for the November elections . Who like to start this meeting?
(Representative Maxine Waters speaks: Play the race card
House Leader speaks: Sounds good to me, that works every time. I will contact the NAACP this evening.
Meeting adjourned.

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July 15, 2010 11:59 PM    in reply to call me Roy

It's not playing the race card if y'all act like a bunch of racist hicks.

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July 16, 2010 12:01 AM    in reply to call me Roy

My apologies to hicks for equating them with racists.

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July 16, 2010 2:27 PM    in reply to call me Roy

........snore...........

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July 15, 2010 8:21 PM   

Martin Luther King is rolling in his grave. Why?
Benjamin Todd Jealous is president and CEO of the NAACP and says Anthony “Van” Jones is a “National Treasure." While Van Jones may have left the White House under a cloud, the NAACP says that’s not his whole story. The group considers him a pioneering hero for the environment and civil rights — so much so that it awarded him one of its highest honors: an NAACP Image Award. It’s a move that stoked the fire from Jones critics. Jones resigned in September 2009 from his position on the Council on Environmental Quality, under a firestorm of criticism over a petition he had signed. The NAACP keeps saying he is the most misunderstood man. I'm trying to figure out exactly where he's misunderstood. Is he misunderstood because he's a 9/11 Truther? Is he misunderstood because he's a self avowed communist? Is he misunderstood because he is a guy who defended Mumia Abu Jamal, the cop killer? Let's see. Is he understood because he wants a revolution? I'm trying to figure out how he's misunderstood. How is he misunderstood? We know where Van Jones stands on Marx. The question I have now is: Where does the NAACP stand on Marx?Where does the "NEW" NAACP stand on the Black Panther party? Does the NAACP's timing seem strange considering the November election is just around the corner? The NAACP would never use "the race card" would they?

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July 15, 2010 8:28 PM    in reply to call me Roy

Boy

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July 15, 2010 10:20 PM    in reply to call me Roy

The NAACP is not Marxist and has never been Marxist. They have no official policy position on Marx and in 30 years of reading the NAACP's house organ, The Crisis, I have never seen an article praising Marx, Lenin or Stalin> Are you aware of any? I thought not.

The NAACP condemns hate groups and condemns the rhetoric of the Black Panthers because they are, wait for it, a hate group.

In 1954 when Brown v. Board went to the SCOTUS the NAACP was condemned for making trouble, for what you would now call 'playing the race card'.

During the Birmingham Bus boycott the NAACP was condemned for 'stirring up racial troubles'--the mid-fifties equivalent of 'playing the race card'.

So when was it, precisely, that the NAACP start playing the race card, Roy? Thrill me, explain how Brown v. Board was playing the race card.

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July 16, 2010 8:31 AM    in reply to ladyfractal

No. The NAACP isn't racist. Not at all.

But, any black man who jumps off their race train is an Uncle Tom.

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July 16, 2010 8:53 AM    in reply to Silence

Interesting. That's not quite the impression I got from, for instance, the speech Cosby gave at the NAACP's annual dinner a few years ago. Did people criticize him for it? Yes. Did the NAACP as an organization criticize him for it? No. Now, I understand that to a lot of Tea Party people and those who support them that the NAACP = NBP = NOI but that's not *really* the case. I also understand that for a lot of the same folks Louis Farrakhan = Jessie Jackson = Every living black person. This is also not the case. I understand that some people have trouble seeing blacks as individuals but we are. In the same way that this Mr. Williams will, by next Wednesday, be "one bad apple" within the Tea Party movement we can say that all of the blacks who criticize anyone with whom they disagree with are also 'one bad apple'.

But that's not the way it works, is it? If the Tea Party has, say, 20 million people in it and say 10% of those are racists, that's 2 million instances of one bad apple. If, on the other hand, the black community has 30 million people and 10% of them are the kind who will call anyone with whom they disagree an Uncle Tom then there are 30 million blacks who will call any black with whom they disagree with an Uncle Tom (minus Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, maybe J.C. Watts and Shelby Steele). Aren't those rules fun?

Sorry FreeRider but I have to say this even though I know I'm not 'supposed' to act like I have any personal experience here. The NAACP I know and am a member of is an ideologically diverse group. What we have in common is that we are all interested in seeing black people lift ourselves up (please note the verbiage) and in being given an equal opportunity in our homeland (also please note that homeland = America). The funny thing about this, is that I--who have been called an Uncle Tom--am defending probably the most staid, conservative black civil rights organization against the accusation of racism and socialism made by a group of people who have shown no indication that they were more than vaguely aware that the NAACP even existed this time last year.

I find that terribly ironic, even if you lot don't see it.

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July 16, 2010 9:21 AM    in reply to call me Roy

Does the NAACP's timing seem strange considering the November election is just around the corner?
I bet they had that Marxist communist Van Jones plant that racist letter and blamed it on Williams.

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July 16, 2010 3:10 PM    in reply to call me Roy

For the record, the NAACP has also called out the New Black Panther party.

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July 15, 2010 8:32 PM   

I'm starting to get a bruise on my forehead from the number of times I have to smack myself for the stupid crap I hear coming from this group.

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July 15, 2010 10:38 PM    in reply to Packerfanchick

What group are you referring to???

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July 16, 2010 12:04 AM    in reply to chameleon

The Tea Party folks.

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July 15, 2010 8:37 PM   

This column is way too kind. There's nothing racist-ish about it. The fake letter claims members of the NAACP (or African Americans generally) pay no taxes, benefit disproportionately from the taxes of other people and spend that largesse wastefully. Making derogatory generalizations about a group based on racial characteristics is the definition of racism. Call it what it is.

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July 15, 2010 8:47 PM    in reply to calbearinillinois

Again, the bruise just got a little darker.

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July 15, 2010 8:57 PM    in reply to calbearinillinois

Agreed. This is not "racist-ish". It's racism. Period.

But I actually thank Williams for penning this letter. It's right out there now, for all to see. A great example. I look forward to seeing Michael Steele's reponse.

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July 15, 2010 9:42 PM   

Well it has finally happened and I am glad. The racists have finally come out of the closet after being relieved of their "freedoms" by the civil rights laws of the sixties. It must have been so painful to see the country "taken away" since and blacks got the "right" get welfare? How does a program that funds more poor white people than the entire black population of this country become the equivalent of affirmative action for lazy Negroes who don't have a nice dialect?

Older African American have told me in some ways social interactions with whites easy because the civil rights era since you knew 9/10s times you would be seen as subhuman. The percentage of those who feel that way has definitely dropped, but the people who still do say are very,very loud and those of you of good conscience are very, very quiet. Calling out the folks who still yearn for Dixie on a blog is fine but where are the politicians when it comes to denouncing this rhetoric? Where are the Democrats or God forbid Republicans politicians who will tell the fools that there is no place left for this in America? Where are the other groups of conscious who condemn this rhetoric? As I said I am glad they have finally come out of hiding and the question is are you going to let them speak for all of you or is anyone going to stand for the fact that blacks became full citizens of this country and an injury to American is an injury to all?

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July 15, 2010 10:00 PM   

Today the University of Texas(Texas Gosh Darn It!) voted to remove the name of dorm which had been named after a former law professor who was an active member of the KKK. It should be remembered that the KKK hated not only Blacks, but Jews and Roman Catholics(Papists!). Today's haters focus on Muslims and immigrants. They tell the Big Lies, just like the Nazis: Obama is a Socialist/Obama isn't and American. All America's problems are the fault of immigrants or affirmative action or a Jewish conspiricy or fill in the blanks. The Right Wing Reactionaries, who flock to the Tea Party, don't believe in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. They believe in lies, hatred(blame some minority for all our problems), and their own power. Nazis. Haters. Liars.

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July 16, 2010 9:19 AM    in reply to sabatia

No unsubstantiated bigotry in this post. Nah. lol

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July 15, 2010 10:22 PM   

The man who led the fight to change the dorm name is my ex-boyfriend. He is walking around with security as we speak because of death treats.

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July 15, 2010 10:26 PM   

The leopard cannot hide it's spots.

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July 15, 2010 11:31 PM   

Shorter Mark Williams: I demand that the NAACP be politically correct. Who cares if the name's historic!


More seriously, Mark Williams is racist to the core and what wouldn't I give to be able to transport him back to the life of a field slave, preferably female. The only decision he'd get to make is which way to dodge when hit with a whip.

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July 15, 2010 11:53 PM   

As far as I know, "colored" is not a racist word, never has been. Neither is "negro". They may be a little out-dated, but not offensive.

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July 16, 2010 10:52 AM    in reply to jonez

do you have any understanding of 'context'??

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July 16, 2010 12:07 AM   

Yet they stand perplexed as to why Black folks largely stay the hell away from their 'movement'...think it might have to with their less than KKKlassy rhetoric.

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July 16, 2010 12:40 AM   

the gift that keeps giving. lets see, they have members that pass emails of obama dressed as a witch doctor, the white house lawn covered in watermelons, hold up signs using th forbidden n word, etc. and they call the naacp racists. is this the best they can do?

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July 16, 2010 2:32 AM   

something only a bagger could believe

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July 16, 2010 7:52 AM   

Of course tea-party is racist. They are just more clever now and know how to disquise thier "real" intentions, but only for awhile. People catch on sooner or later. You will know them by their fruit!

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July 16, 2010 8:53 AM   

if the sheet fits.....

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July 16, 2010 9:33 AM   

This whole thing is stupid and so negative. Our country has drifted away from our founding principles and the Constitution. That is the purpose behind the True Tea Party Movement. I'm NOT a racist and i dont agree with the comments that Mr. William made, nor do I believe for a moment that they describe the Tea Party or its memebers. It seems that everybody is lying in wait to spring the racism card, instead of concentrating on the real areas that we need to work on to get our country back on her feet! We are ALL Americans, and shouldnt separate ourselves with a prefex/suffix. Interesting how the enemies of our great Republic don't care what race or creed we are, they are out to kill us all and look at us all as Americans! Why is it that our enemies can just lump us all together as one people, and we can't? They dont differentiate between killing African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Irish-Americans...et all...Time for intelligent thought and conversation. Time to not get into the same predicament and have people represent us that do not truly represent us. Time to stand up as Americans and roll up our sleeves and get things fixed. so many of these other problems that are important will heal as well once we get the important Principles back into play and steer clear of the current socialistic course that will puposely attempt to pit us all against each other, be it with racism or any other issue,to take our time and focus and distract us with these idiotic rhetorics and squabbles while our freedoms are taken away

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July 16, 2010 10:00 AM    in reply to Heuywrench

The prefixes honor our old-world heritage, this is a pluralistic society we embrace different origins here, many of you conservatives fear this and want us all to conform to your white western Euroean American standards 100% ignoring are own history here. Forget it, it's not gonna happen, our American identity is brought to life by this diversity not diluted by it.

And newsflash hun, the ruling class has been splitting up labor along racial/ethnic lines for centuries to keep labor costs down, you can't demand higher wages if you're too busy fighting each other over whose skin is prettier, and that isn't a socialist thing that is pure capitalism.

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July 16, 2010 3:25 PM    in reply to Heuywrench

The NAACP never said the Tea Party organizations themselves were racist, or that everyone in them was racist; what it criticized was the failure of the organization to condemn the racist sentiments and behavior being expressed at official functions by some of its members. A lot of the signage at your rallies is unquestionably racist and highly offensive, and it's time that the leaders of the various organizations put a stop to it if they do not wish those sentiments to be connected to the movement as a whole.

If you really want to get the country "back on its feet," then I would strongly suggest that you contact the leadership of the opposition in Congress and demand that they stop playing political games with the country's future, that they roll up their sleeves and find a way to work the the Democratic majority to achieve something positive.

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July 16, 2010 9:37 AM   

and by the way... the colors we need to be worrying about are Red, White and Blue.... and Green!

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July 16, 2010 9:57 AM   

Oh, brothers! We have all gathered here, to preserve our hallowed culture and heritage! We aim to pull evil up by the root, before it chokes out the flower of our culture and heritage! And our women, let's not forget those ladies, y'all. Looking to us for protection! From darkies, from Jews, from papists, and from all those smart-ass folks say we come descended from monkeys!

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July 16, 2010 10:02 AM    in reply to biff diggerence

Somebody protect the white wymnzssss!!!!

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July 16, 2010 10:04 AM    in reply to MrRandom

Homer Stokes, courtesy of the Coen Brothers.

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