Anti-Mosque Movement Draws Support From Controversial European Politician

Q. Is the Cordoba House Project, a mosque with a community center attached, or a community center with a mosque attached?

A. Neither, according to Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10. They are prayer rooms. No mosque. Problem solved. End of story.

Presumable, the mosque two blocks uptown that does offer Friday sermons will be the actual mosque for the 51 Park Place Community Center.

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Is is logical for Muslims to build another mosque near ground zero if the Sept 11 2001 Islamist attacks on the Twin Towers was an act of Islamic Jihad?

Yes, it is!

If a mosque was already built in 1970s just north of 2 blocks Ground Zero then Common sense dictates Muslims have already been worshiping at the mosque so there is no logical reason to built a new mosque unless Andrew McCarthy's assertion in National Review is true that the Ground Zero mosque is part of a "civilisational jihad" against the West. Andrew McCarthy’s logic is more logical than anything coming out of the “Cordoba Initiative” propaganda and progressive lame stream media machines.

Ground Zero is ‘Halo Ground’ to most Americans and the thought of building a mosque so Islamists can celebrate an Islamist attack on U.S. soil makes us all shake our heads with revulsion.

Why must Americans be the tolerant ones?

I’m tired of being tolerant to a religion that would replace our Constitution with Sharia Law given the half the chance, are you?

Muslims are allowed to be intolerant and get away with promoting their religion above the Public wishes because of progressive support. Without progressive support there can be no Islamic encroachment on our republican form of government.

This is another example of how hypocritical progressives are regarding their dogma, they promote and cry out for more ‘democracy’ but when the American People are against their agenda they have no problem with a single progressive Judge overruling the American People’s will.

Progressive support for Islam exposes their ‘Achilles Heel’ on the issue of ‘Democracy’, Islam views democracy as ‘Hypocrisy’ and does not promote Man’s Law over God’s Law. Progressives support Islam to help bring down capitalist nations in order to build global socialistic government.

Progressive sedition against our republican form of government has many faces. The biggest hypocritical act yet to come is when they fight the Labor Unions in New York that refuse to build the “Cordoba Initiative” mosque. Putting Islam ahead of their beloved Labor Unions should be the ‘straw that broke the camel’s back’ and the American People will see progressivism for what it truly is, SEDITION.

They won't build it! Hardhats vow not to work on controversial mosque near Ground Zero

"I wouldn't work there, especially after I found out about what the imam said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11," Kaiser said.
The grass-roots movement is gaining momentum on the Internet. One construction worker created the "Hard Hat Pledge" on his blog and asked others to vow not to work on the project if it stays on Park Place.
"Thousands of people are signing up from all over the country," said creator Andy Sullivan, a construction worker from Brooklyn. "People who sell glass, steel, lumber, insurance. They are all refusing to do work if they build there."
"Hopefully, this will be a tool to get them to move it," he said. "I got a problem with this ostentatious building looming over Ground Zero."

The Dutch are just reacting to Islamic encroachment in a far better approach than our useless democratic representatives are here in America are!

Once again, just for the two stupid boneheads that can't admit when they have been outplayed here is why Islam is unconstitutional and why both of you are Islamic Apologists..

The Qur'an establishes Sharia Law as it's Judicial System and Sharia Law establishes Islam as the official State religion this goes against our First Amendment's establishment clause in the Constitution...Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...

Qur'an 9:29 - Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Muslim:C9B1N33 - "The Prophet said: 'I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.'"

Of course there are many more examples of Islam being unconstitutional...

CONSTITUTION & QUR'AN by William J. Federer

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion, yet the Quran states in Sura 4:89, "Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back (from Islam), take hold of them and kill them wherever you find them."

In Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari (Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57), Muhammad said: "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."

Islamic law relegates non-Muslims to "dhimmi" status, where they are not to propagate their customs amongst Muslims and cannot display a Cross or a Star of David.

The First Amendment states Congress shall not abridge "the freedom of speech," yet Islamic law enforces dhimmi status on non-Muslims, prohibiting them from observing their religious practices publicly, raising their voices during prayer or ringing church bells.

The First Amendment states Congress cannot take away "the right of the people to peaceably assemble," yet Islamic law states non-Muslims cannot build any new places of worship or repair any old places Muslims have destroyed; they must allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings; they cannot bring their dead near the graveyards of Muslims or mourn their dead loudly.

The First Amendment states Congress cannot take away the right of the people "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances," yet Islamic law states non-Muslims are not to harbor any hostility toward the Islamic state or give comfort to those who disagree with Islamic government.

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The Second Amendment states, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," yet Islamic law states non-Muslims cannot possess arms, swords or weapons of any kind.

The Third Amendment states one cannot be forced to "quarter" someone in their house, yet Islamic law states non-Muslims must entertain and feed for three days any Muslim who wants to stay in their home, and for a longer period if the Muslim falls ill – and they cannot prevent Muslim travelers from staying in their places of worship.

The Fourth Amendment guarantees "the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures," yet Islamic law states if a non-Muslim rides on a horse with a saddle and bridle, the horse can be taken away.

The Fifth Amendment states that "no person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime … without due process of law," yet Muhammad said, "No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (infidel)" (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, No. 50).

The Sixth Amendment guarantees a "public trial by an impartial jury" and the Seventh Amendment states "the right of trial by jury shall be preserved," yet Islamic law does not give non-Muslims equal legal standing with Muslims, even prohibiting a non-Muslim from testifying in court against a Muslim.

The Eighth Amendment states there shall be no "cruel and unusual punishments inflicted," yet the Quran states:

"Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done – a deterrent from Allah" (Sura 5:38).

A raped woman is punished: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication – flog each of them with a hundred stripes" (Sura 24:2).

Women can be beaten: "If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them" (Sura 4:34).

Honor killings of wives and daughters who have embarrassed their families have been reported by the United Nations in Muslim populations of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen and increasing in Western nations.

The 13th Amendment states there shall be no "slavery or involuntary servitude," yet the Quran accommodates slavery as Muhammad owned slaves.

The 14th Amendment guarantees citizens "equal protection of the laws," yet the Quran does not consider Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims as equal to Muslims before the law.

Referring to Jews as "the People of the Book," Muhammad said: "They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under his wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine" (Sura 5:60, 7:166, 2:65).

The 15th Amendment guarantees "the right of the citizens … to vote shall not be denied … on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude," yet the fundamentalist interpretation of Islamic law does not allow voting, as democracy is considered people setting themselves in the place of Allah by making their own laws.

The 16th Amendment has some similarities with Islamic law, as "Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on incomes from whatever source derived." Muhammad said, "Fight those who believe not in Allah … until they pay the jizya [tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29).

The 18th Amendment has some similarities with Islamic law, as "the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors … for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited."

The 19th Amendment allows women to vote, yet in strict Islamic countries women cannot vote.

The 21st Amendment allows for the sale of liquor, yet Islamic law prohibits non-Muslims from selling or drinking wine and liquor openly.

To those of you including the two boneheads in question have questions about these verses being taken out of context, you should all have a firm foundation on the "Rule of Abrogation"

"None of Our revelations do We abrogate or just cause to he forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" --Surah 2: 106

"When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger "but most of them understand not. "--Surah 16:101

[2.23] And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful.

[2.24] But if you do (it) not and never shall you do (it), then be on your guard against the fire of which men and stones are the fuel; it is prepared for the unbelievers.

[15:9] We have sent down the reminder, and we will preserve it

So, my pointing out that DugFmJamul doesn't know as much about the bible as he seems to think he does caused him enough fear and concern that he had to run away and hide. THAT is what happens when an evangelical is faced with REAL truth. That's why I don't accept words written on pages blindly. All he could do was curl up in a ball of denial and say "I don't believe you!" He will be quite surprised if he's honest enough to investigate what I've told him because every word was true. However, my guess is he's more interested in demonizing Muslims than he is in searching for answers in his own religion. THAT is the behavior of those afraid of what they will find.

I guess they don't believe that the truth will set them free, but freedom FROM religion is one thing I treasure, and freedom OF religion is one thing our nation believes in.