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Cantor: 'Who Exactly Is Obama Celebrating With?' (Answer: Auto Workers)


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Democrats and union officials are seldom pleased with House Minority Whip Eric Cantor. But today they're particularly unhappy.

In attacking President Obama's economic policies yesterday, Cantor asked, "So as President Obama prepares to take another victory lap, who exactly is [he] celebrating with?"

The answer: auto manufacturers. Whoops!

Here's the New York Times' account:

"I wish they were standing here today and saw what I see," he told an audience of cheering workers at a Ford Motor Co. plant here in his hometown. "I wish they could see the pride you take in building these great cars, American-made cars. And my message to them is: Don't bet against the American worker; don't lose faith in the American people; don't lose faith in American industry. We are coming back."

Predictably, Democrats are pouncing:

"To answer Mr. Cantor's question - the President was celebrating with American auto workers whose industry is on the rise and whose jobs are being saved thanks to the bold action he and his Administration took after coming into office - and no thanks to Republicans who have been rooting for failure for the President and the economy for their own political gain," reads a statement from DNC Communication's Director Brad Woodhouse.

It was Obama's third visit to an auto plant in the last week. Though funny and pretty awkward for Cantor, his attempt to pin a Marie Antoinette attitude on Obama will likely be less remembered than conservative commentator Andrea Tantaros' screed against Michelle Obama's Spain trip.

Late update: In response to similar criticism of Democrats' jobs legislation by House Minority Leader John Boehner, Democrats cut the below web-ad.

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August 6, 2010 8:46 AM   

His comments just may be remembered by those who count, however. Anyone who believes that Michelle Obama is like Marie Antoinette is a buffoon whose votes are lost anyway.

However, union members, and auto workers will remember getting dissed by the creep from Virginia.

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August 6, 2010 9:23 AM    in reply to CVille Dem

Especially if we remind them.

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August 6, 2010 11:04 AM    in reply to CVille Dem

Constantly.

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August 6, 2010 5:40 PM    in reply to Spiffarino

every time i see Cantor's or Douchinelli's face on TV i want to punch myself in the head

not cuz i voted for them, but because i want to feel a few moments of brainlessness so i can understand just exactly what the people who voted for them feel like all day, every day

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August 6, 2010 10:03 AM    in reply to CVille Dem

I mention this later in the thread but I want everyone to see: Please visit the webiste of and donate to Cantor's opponent: Rick Waugh. http://www.rickwaugh.com

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August 6, 2010 8:58 AM   

Ya, whats he doing celebrating with people that he actually helped. Cantor must have thought that was one of the things that the Repukes screwed up for him. Instead it's a growing company that is slowly starting to pay off what it owes to the government and will soon be a completely independant entity again. But you know if you listen to Bachmman, 90% of our private economy has been taken over by the government... Or has it?

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August 6, 2010 10:09 AM    in reply to vasu

Ford didn't take the loans but it certainly wouldn't have been good for Ford if GM and Chrysler disappeared because of the the huge hit to US auto parts suppliers.

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August 6, 2010 11:36 AM    in reply to KingElvis

Yup, and I think Ford should be the model the others follow. Ford saw the righting on the wall 5 yrs before and was able to change their model and now are one of the most profitable automakers in the US.

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August 6, 2010 11:36 AM    in reply to vasu

*writing

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August 6, 2010 1:00 PM    in reply to vasu

interesting slip, though, almost fits, but you'd have to go back to 2001... Or 1994

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August 6, 2010 9:05 AM   

reads a statement from DNC Communication's Director Brad Woodhouse.

wow the DNC has a commo Dir. they have been MIA was wondering if they still existed.

sure wish they start fight back here DNC you have volumes of material you need to start using.
imo

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August 6, 2010 1:55 PM    in reply to Pilotshark

"Republicans who have been rooting for failure for the President and the economy for their own political gain," reads a statement from DNC Communication's Director Brad Woodhouse."

You mean kind of like Democrats (including Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi,and too many others to list) who were rooting (and WORKING) for failure for President Bush and the economy and the Iraq War ("the Bush policy is a failure" "the surge will fail" "this war is lost") for their own political gain. Or has the Democrats' hyperpartisan stance (the original party of NO) already been flushed down the memory hole?

Republicans want Democrats to fail in ENACTING their agenda. Why? Because Democrat "success" in ENACTING their agenda means failure and harm to Americans and the country. Republicans want America and Americans to succeed and prosper. Democrat policies have led and will lead to the opposite.

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August 6, 2010 2:04 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Yeah that's exactly what we mean.

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August 6, 2010 2:05 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

I love it when conservatives come to left leaning websites to inform us of what they think Democrats and liberals are really about. You see, we don't know, so we need people like you to tell us and clear things up, since we're all under the spell of Obamamania and none of us know how think critically.

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August 6, 2010 2:38 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

No need to thank me. You know, cars have "blind spots". So do people (including me on occasion). Liberals try to point out my blind spots and "errors" all the time. I try to do the same, but for some reason liberals will not have it, and instead INSIST in believing that their world view is 100% accurate with absolutely NO blind spots and absolutely no need or desire for "diverse" facts or opinions. As they say, you can lead a donkey to water, but you can't make it drink.

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August 6, 2010 3:50 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

"I try to do the same, but for some reason liberals will not have it,"

You mean you're really hurt that no one will eat that crap sandwich you spent so much time and effort making for us?

Let me turn up the volume so you can hear my tiny violin playing.

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August 6, 2010 4:49 PM    in reply to SchoolyT

"You mean you're really hurt that no one will eat that crap sandwich you spent so much time and effort making for us?"

Me hurt? Of course not. I try to interject a little bit of a different point of view and if some/most/all don't buy it, then so be it. I never post on any thread here with my happiness staked on all liberals agreeing with me. I just want to expose folks who live in a liberal cocoon to another way of looking at things. Most, such as yourself, will reject it out of hand. That's to be expected. It won't keep me awake at night and you can rest your arms and put away your Strad.

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August 6, 2010 4:58 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Oh, so you're here to enlighten us, as we all apparently exist inside something called a 'liberal cocoon'? Wow, I cannot imagine what our lives would be like without you here to save us from ourselves. Are all conservatives as thoughtful and generous?

What a selfless, kind gesture you have given us. I am sure along the way to the restroom, I'll be thinking of your infinite wisdom and advice.

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August 6, 2010 5:07 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

If you already know it all, why even come here? To share YOUR wisdom. As Prof. Kingsfield of the movie and TV series used to say "Fill the room with your brilliance". I am always ready to learn something new....just not into fantasy and irrational thinking. I get it that you are not inclined to be open to anything from a conservative point of view. Give me some substance in a post and maybe you can convert me back to being a liberal (I mean "progressive")again (I was one for a long time, but I woke up from that dream many years ago).

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August 6, 2010 5:12 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Yawn. Next.

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August 7, 2010 6:39 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

"Are all conservatives as thoughtful and generous?"

Yes, almost universally so.

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August 6, 2010 6:14 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

We've spent 3+ decades exposed to the Republican/conservative way of looking at things. Ever since the Reagan and his GOP backup singers convinced the entire country to believe that randian, "free market" (READ: "negligent and corrupt regulatory oversight"), greed-is-good, ultra-capitalistic trickle-down economics is actually how the economy works (hint: it doesn't) and not just a horrifying ideological daydream brainfart (READ: a nice-sounding lie told to help further institutionalize class warfare against the middle-class), we've been "exposed" to the conservative way of thinking. Guess what? 3+ decades of EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE have proven that the GOP's corporatocratic ideological dogma is BULL-FUCKING-SHIT. THERE IS NO ECONOMIC GRAVITY: WHAT GOES UP, DON'T COME DOWN. it gets played with (READ: hoarded and consolidated) in the financial services system that is increasingly (and at this point almost exclusively) this country's focal industry.

Whatever. You're probably one of those fucking retards who think Fraank and Dodd are to blame for the economy collapsing beacuse of bad loans given by Fran/Fred, not the litany of tapdancing derivative credit-defalt-swap douchebaggery in which Wall Street engaged with the securities formed from bundling those bad mortgages in order to attempt to squeeze blood from a stone and get rich of something THEY KNEW was high risk and had questionable value.

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August 7, 2010 8:59 AM    in reply to Sniffit

"You're probably one of those fucking retards who think Fraank and Dodd are to blame for the economy collapsing beacuse of bad loans given by Fran/Fred, not the litany of tapdancing derivative credit-defalt-swap douchebaggery in which Wall Street engaged with the securities formed from bundling those bad mortgages in order to attempt to squeeze blood from a stone and get rich of something THEY KNEW was high risk and had questionable value."

You have no clue about what you have written do you? If someone asked you to explain how the "derivative credit-defalt-swap douchebaggery" caused the crisis you could not do it. All the Wall Street stuff was the trimmings on the tree. The financial crisis was precipitated by the subprime (subprime refers to the credit quality of borrowers, not lower than prime interest rates) mortgage meltdown----i.e., mortgage loans that were made to people with little on no downpayments (it was not too long ago that a 20% downpayment was considered standard), little savings, incomes just barely sufficient to make monthly payments on adjustable rate mortgages with low initial interest rates, but not when rates would adjust upwards. The subprime mortgages THEMSELVES were the ROOT of the problem, CDO's etc. were just, as I said, the "trimmings" on subprime mortgages to TRY to reduce the risk on them (all investments carry some risk). Take away the subprime mortgages and you have NO subprime mortgage meltdown and no national and international financial crisis. Is that so hard to understand?

OK, how did all those subprime mortgages come about. Well, your lack of understanding is exposed by your statement "bad loans given by Fran/Fred". Fannie and Freddie did not GIVE loans. Fannie and Freddie ENCOURAGED, ENABLED, PURCHASED, BUNDLED, AND SECURITIZED subprime loans, which were then dumped into the financial "bloodstream" with apparent government backing that they were "safe" investments.

Do just a LITTLE basic reading. Wikipedia might be a good start:

"In 1995, the GSEs like Fannie Mae began receiving government tax incentives for purchasing mortgage backed securities which included loans to low income borrowers. Thus began the involvement of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with the subprime market. In 1996, HUD set a goal for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that at least 42% of the mortgages they purchase be issued to borrowers whose household income was below the median in their area. [Thanks, HUD!!!] This target was increased to 50% in 2000 and 52% in 2005. [Thanks again, HUD!] From 2002 to 2006, as the U.S. subprime market grew 292% over previous years [WOW!!], Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac combined purchases of subprime securities rose from $38 billion to around $175 billion per year before dropping to $90 billion per year, which included $350 billion of Alt-A securities. Fannie Mae had stopped buying Alt-A products in the early 1990s because of the high risk of default. [I guess Fannie decided the high risk of default had gone away] BY 2008, THE FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC OWNED, EITHER DIRECTLY OR THROUGH MORTGAGE POOL THEY SPONSORED, $5.1 TRILLION IN RESIDENTIAL MORTGAGES, ABOUT HALF THE TOTAL U.S. MORTGAGE MARKET. [DID YOU READ THAT SNIFFIT and other liberals here who spout the Wall Street did it mumbo jumbo without even knowing what you are saying?]. The GSE have always been highly leveraged, their net worth as of 30 June 2008 being a mere US$114 billion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis#Government_policies

I am not saying that the private sector had nothing to do with our current financial situation, but you are in pure head-in-the-sand, willfully blind denial if you dismiss the MAJOR role that Fannie and Freddie had in it. As I said, take away subprime mortgage at the scale they became under the "leadership" of Fannie and Freddie, you have no mortgage meltdown.

I would say that owning $5.1 TRILLION in residential mortgages---HALF of the U.S. residential mortgage market is not an insignificant thing. Especially, when that half includes a substantial number of subprime mortgages. So, regardless of anything that was going on on "Wall Street", Fannie and Freddie were at the ROOT of the problem.

THAT is a fact. Reject it and live in liberal fantasyland if you wish, but as the past 18 months under Obama and his retiring economic advisor, Christine Romer ("if the stimulus is enacted, unemployment will not exceed 8%, if it is not enacted it will be over 9%")have shown, fantasies do not shape the real world.

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August 6, 2010 6:26 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Did you read a manual on how to project your own behavior in order to make mirror-image accusations that "the other side" is doing precisely what you yourself are doing? This is a tried and true GOP trick. Newsflash for dumbass: The Dems/liberals are not the people engaged in a Spanish-Inquisition-style hunt for ideological heretics to burn because they refuse to shift to the extreme fringe of their party as political tactic for shifting the appearance of where the middle-ground.center lies...the GOPers/conservatives are. They've moved waaaay right and that was the purpose of creating the astroturf Tealiban in the first place, to make it look more acceptable and "grass rootsy" and populist for people to run around in tinfoil hats with American flags made in China draped over their shoulders and plush monkey dolls hanging from a noose...running about yammering batshit crazy nonsense like "taxes are slavery." They move right and the Dems, being the milktoast pussies they always are, capitulate and compromise until we get castrated "centrist" legislation thrown at us...legislation the GOP still calls "radical" and "leftist" and "socialist" because they want the growing ideological gap to look like it's the Dems' faults. Soooo, GOP moves waaaay right, Dems stay put for the most part, gap grows, idiots blame Dems and, the kicker, independents suddenly think the middle-ground at which they've programmed themselves to autonomically aim is much further to the right than it used to be. THAT is their game in a nutshell...and the mirror-image accustaion is the fulcrum around which it spins.

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August 7, 2010 9:26 AM    in reply to Sniffit

You remind me of the touching scene in Forrest Gump, where after Forrest relates his story to her, she said to him "Well, I thought it was a very lovely story. And you tell it so well."

I would say the same thing about your yarn, except substitute "imaginative" for "lovely"

I will say: you have a very active and vivid imagination. Fantasy stories can be great, and sometimes lucrative (ask J.K. Rowling). But when it comes to policy, politics, and economics, REALITY is the place to be. See you in November, when reality smacks fantasy upside the head. Is that what it will take to wake up liberals?

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August 6, 2010 5:06 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

What, exactly, did the Democrats say "no" to when Bush was president? Not much, as I recall; certainly not nearly enough.


What Democrat or Democratic sympathizer said "I hope Bush fails," or "I hope the Iraq War is a failure"?

Democrats won the 2008 election, and won it rather handily. In any sane world, that should mean that they get a chance to formulate the policies they feel will benefit the country. The GOP refuses to acknowledge that the Democrats have any kind of mandate, and keep insisting that everything be done their way, even though they went down to significant defeat in 2008.

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August 7, 2010 8:02 PM    in reply to slb

"What, exactly, did the Democrats say "no" to when Bush was president? Not much, as I recall; certainly not nearly enough."

1. Federal judicial appointments, including well qualified women, blacks, Hispanics (wouldn't that make Democrats sexists and racists?).
2. Iraq war (they voted against it, after voting for it; declared Bush's managing of the war a "failure" and advocated withdrawal)
3. Social security reform, including the MODEST proposal to let workers have control over 1/4 of their contributions in accounts they could invest in whatever they wanted to (including U.S. Treasury bonds or money market savings accounts). Democrats said "no way"
4. Blocked a border security bill in 2006
5. Blocked Bush energy bill in 2003


"What Democrat or Democratic sympathizer said "I hope Bush fails," or "I hope the Iraq War is a failure"?"

You twisted my comment. I said: "You mean kind of like Democrats (including Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi,and too many others to list) who were rooting (and WORKING) for failure for President Bush and the economy and the Iraq War ("the Bush policy is a failure" "the surge will fail" "this war is lost") for their own political gain."

Harry Reid: "this war is lost" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDOAmJYFFA

Hillary Clinton at Petraeus hearing on surge plan: "failed policy" and charges that Petraeus' reports "require the willing suspension of disbelief" (i.e., Petraeus (Bush's "mouthpiece" was a liar....THEN, now Petraeus has been tapped by Obama to save his butt in Afghanistan)

"Democrats won the 2008 election, and won it rather handily."

Well, it wasn't a squeaker, but it was not in the Reagan or Bush 41 LANDSLIDE category. Dems won many House and Senate races with narrow margins, including Stuart Smalley in Minnesota, with the help of several hundred felons who voted illegally and thanks, no doubt, to effort by ACORN in manufacturing enough votes to help Franken win on a "recount".

"In any sane world, that should mean that they get a chance to formulate the policies they feel will benefit the country. The GOP refuses to acknowledge that the Democrats have any kind of mandate,"

Well, Democrats did not have a mandate to enact their socialist agenda, including ObamaCare over the OPPOSITION of a majority of Americans. They had a mandate to not be George Bush (whom liberals had demonized for 8 years) and to bring some "hope", tax cuts for 95% of Americans, no lobbyists in the administration, bi-partisanship, transparency (health care hearing on C-SPAN, not in back room deals---ha!).

"and keep insisting that everything be done their way, even though they went down to significant defeat in 2008."

GOP was not insisting that "EVERYTHING be done THEIR way"--they just objected to Democrats doing it ALL THEIR WAY, including being shut out of hearings, being prevented from making amendments, and all of the things Democrats termed the "tyranny of the majority" when Republicans were in the majority under Bush (then dissent was looked at as the "highest form of patriotism"---my how things change!)

Well, we will see in November whether voters give Democrats a mandate to continue their agenda or whether think that opposing the Democrats' agenda was EXACTLY the right thing to do as voters retire MANY Democrats who richly deserve to be permanently booted from serving in the House and Senate. Check back with me on November 3 to see if voters agree with you or with me.

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August 6, 2010 6:04 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Your blatant supidity doesn't even deserve a response, but unfortuantely this is one.

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August 7, 2010 9:08 AM    in reply to Sniffit

"Your blatant supidity doesn't even deserve a response."

Ditto back at you, except substitute "stupidity" for "supidity"

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August 6, 2010 9:09 AM   

What Cantor REALLY means is "Me and my fellow Republicans, in fealty to our corporate masters, have so destroyed this economy and the middle class that we can't imagine anyone out there wanting to celebrate."

Cantor is The Grinch, listening incredulously to the little people singing, when he thinks they should be crying. He just can't understand how they could be happy when he's taken away all their middle class consumer toys, and so many of their homes.

If this mess actually translates into Republican wins of any magnitude in November, it will only validate the worldview that the current majority of Americans are blind lemmings who vote for the wolves that eat them.


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August 6, 2010 9:28 AM    in reply to JEP07

+1

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August 6, 2010 10:15 AM    in reply to JEP07

An insult to the world lemming population, to be sure.

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August 6, 2010 1:21 PM    in reply to JEP07

One of the best posts I've read today, well done!

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August 6, 2010 1:30 PM    in reply to JEP07

This kind of thing from Canter puts a different kind of underscore to the recent Lind article that The rich don't need America anymore. They don't need Americans in order to be source of their wealth. They've got markets world-wide.

[M]any of the highest-paid individuals on Wall Street have grown rich through activities that have little or no connection with the American economy. They can flourish even if the U.S. declines, as long as they can tap into growth in other regions of the world.
These people (special interests, indeed!) have, as their representatives, people like Canter and Boehner, with the appalling blindness to your basic everyday Americans who are teachers, or auto workers. It adds up.

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August 6, 2010 1:38 PM    in reply to JEP07

I don't know what Cantor meant---whether he meant to say "workers" or whether he did not know to whom Obama spoke. I was half watching the report of Obama's speech and if my memory is correct, Obama and the auto workers UNION bosses were practically in mutual Lewinsky mode BEFORE the speech (with no doubt more of the same after the speech). And no wonder, Obama and Democrats did not so much bail out or save GM and Chrysler (they could have been reorganized or assisted in a different form or with a different outcome than the one that was achieved). What ACTUALLY happened was a bailout of overly rich and unsustainable union pensions and benefits. In short, the bailout was a predictable POLITICAL PAYOFF that saved the unions' bacon and put the unions and the federal government in control of G(overnment) M(otors) and Chrysler. Aside: imagine the "tough" negotiations that will go on between the unions and "management" (the unions and federal govt.) over future contract terms!!! What a conflict of interest/unity of interest situation that raises. And it doesn't take a genius to see that the bailout was highly beneficial to Democrats. Dems get to use taxpayer money to bail out a favored constituency (the union) and the union, with understandable gratitude, will funnel a chunk of those taxpayer dollars BACK to Dems, as they are in the habit of doing, in campaign contributions. The mutual Lewinskys before the speech was just a symbolic reinactment of the monetary and political Lewinskys that was the GM and Chrysler bailouts.

It is hilarious to see your take that the economy, including presumably (almost) GM and Chrysler, was destroyed by Repulicans, in "fealty" to their "corporate masters", have so destroyed this economy and the middle class that we can't imagine anyone out there wanting to celebrate." THAT is a worn out liberal and Democrat article of faith that has little basis in reality (when has reality ever mattered to liberals?). But it ignores (I wonder why?) the substantial role of the subprime mortgage meltdown that was not a product of government DEregulation, but of government meddling in the housing market with "affordable housing" initiatives and mandates that pushed putting people who could not afford the houses they bought (not just poor people but also even middle class and rich people who bought houses with little or no money down on the assumption that housing prices would only continue to go up). Thank you, especially, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and a host of other Democrats who gave us Fannie and Freddie in their late '90s and 2000 - 2008 form, and who opposed and pooh poohed any concern about Fannie and Freddie and any regulation that would have made their sizeable role in the U.S. housing market more prudent. Also, if Republicans "destroyed" the economy (including the auto industry) why were not non union foreing auto makers who were making cars in the U.S. not in the same sorry shape as GM and Chrysler. How did they manage to escape Republican "destruction"? Here is a little thought experiment: maybe the rich and unsustainable union contracts at GM and Chysler, and NOT Republican "destruction" had something to do with the near collapse of GM and Chrysler. Just a wild thought.

You say: "If this mess actually translates into Republican wins of any magnitude in November, it will only validate the worldview that the current majority of Americans are blind lemmings who vote for the wolves that eat them."

Actually, if the mess caused by Obama and Democrats does NOT translate into Republican wins of any magnitude in November, it will only show that too many Americans are blind lemmings who vote for Democrats who give "favors" to their own "special interests" that don't help the people as a whole, causes the economy to stagnate, imposes a crushing burden of debt (with skyrocketing interest on the debt that will crowd out other spending), and ironically just temporalily keeps the old unsustainable union model going long enough for a few more cycles of campaign contributions, but which will probably result in the eventual demise of GM and Chrysler if uneconomic wages, benefits, and pensions continue as they have and if GM and Chrysler become the "vehicles" for the imposition of "green" vehicles that cost too much, are too small, and are not what most Americans want to drive. Perhaps the individual mandate in health care will become the model for other mandates, such as the requirement that Americans buy union made "green" cars. Don't laugh. If Dems can do it in HC, why not in cars? Why not in food or the houses we live in?

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August 6, 2010 2:03 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

You're rather boorish. Try editing down your rants into a few sentences, if you can hold back your righteous fury.

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August 6, 2010 4:59 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

"Try editing down your rants into a few sentences"

I see you want me to follow the liberal formula here:

An opening ad hominem attack (one sentence) followed by a clever little nothing that will make me feel good about myself and declare victory in a "debate" without saying anything of substance. Check out many of the comments by liberals here and you will see that that is the "winning" pattern. Short and sweet, but no educational value. Sometimes a thoughtful comment takes more than 2 or 3 sentences.

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August 6, 2010 2:32 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Got a lot of time on your hands!

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August 6, 2010 2:33 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Or maybe your being paid by the word.

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August 6, 2010 4:03 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

And the conspiracy abounds. It has no limits, It can't be reasoned with.

You wasted a good deal of electrons with that post, teawhacker.

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August 6, 2010 9:24 AM   

Cantor and his ilk look on auto workers with contempt because they (or at least the ones for American auto makers anyway) are unionized, and the GOP is very hostile to unions.

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August 6, 2010 2:19 PM    in reply to jdb316

It is not so much that Republicans are hostile to unions. It is that they favor and want to help EVERYONE. What good is it if a union worker get a short term "benefit" (higher than economically justified wages, benefits, and pension) and it ends up putting the company or the industry out of business or sends a company or jobs out of the country? What good is it to the GENERAL population if prices that everyone pays for a car or other things is higher than it would otherwise be because a company is unionized? Sure government union workers have a great deal: practically lifetime employment, better than private industry retirement benefits, and in recent years even higher compensation packages while working that counterparts in private industry. But the victims of unionization of public employees are the taxpayers, present and future, who have to pay for all of the benefits to union employees. Dems are concerned with looking out for their special interest groups, Republicans have their eyes on long term and broader welfare of all Americans.

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August 6, 2010 2:37 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

"It is not so much that Republicans are hostile to unions. It is that they favor and want to help EVERYONE."

You're kidding, right?

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August 6, 2010 4:49 PM    in reply to BeeClone

Irony impaired. Or just really stupid.

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August 7, 2010 3:41 PM    in reply to BeeClone

Not kidding. Read my comment above. Spend a few minutes thinking about it. How many jobs in the auto industry have the unions DESTROYED. If it weren't for the Obama bailout of the GM and Chrysler union pension funds (via taking over GM and Chrysler WITH TAXPAYER MONEY), they would have destroyed the ENTIRE unionized auto industry, leaving only the non-unionized car manufactures still in business. You don't pay much attention to what goes on the REAL world, do you? Too much time reading DNC propaganda, HuffPo, Daily Kos, and Keith Olbermann.

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August 6, 2010 2:52 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Neither major party really has its eye on the welfare of "All Americans." The GOP is every bit as loyal to its primary interest groups (ie, the wealthy and the religious right) as the Democrats are to theirs.

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August 6, 2010 5:03 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

"Republicans have their eyes on long term and broader welfare of all Americans"

Which is why they are casting anyone who is a Muslim as the enemy, or anyone who is from Mexico as some foreign invader, or anyone who is black as some angry member of the Black Panther party?

Are you for real, or just another clever right wing parody troll? I swear, it's getting harder and harder to tell these days.


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August 7, 2010 7:03 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

"Which is why they are casting ANYONE who is a Muslim as the enemy, or ANYONE who is from Mexico as some foreign invader, or ANYONE who is black as some angry member of the Black Panther party?"

ANYONE?!?

Who is charging that ALL Muslims, ALL Mexicans, ALL blacks are enemies etc.? Exaggerate much? That is as ridiculous as saying liberals are arguing that NO Muslims are the enemy, or NO ONE who is from Mexico is a foreign invader, or that NO ONE who is black is an angry member of the Black Panther party. Although, that is probably closer to reality than your charge against conservatives. Liberals seem much more sympathetic to Muslims (including the minority who are Muslim terrorists) than they are to law abiding Christians (who liberals, in their paranoia, see as their REAL enemy---after conservatives). Liberals also seem to be very sympathetic to ILLEGAL Mexicans in the country (including the minority of ILLEGAL Mexicans who are involved in crime or drug trafficking in the U.S.). To them, ILLEGAL Mexicans are simply seen as "undocumented (future) Democrats" who can become part of the dependents that liberals cultivate to keep liberals in power. And liberals (including AG Eric Holder) say "ho hum" (yahn) to voter intimidation by new black panther members who carry billy clubs at polling places.

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August 6, 2010 5:34 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Oh, sure. Here is how the Republicans intend to "benefit EVERYONE":

Of the "Roadmap for America's Future" prepared by Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin (described by the Washington Post as the GOP's fiscal conscience), Paul Krugman says:

Its [the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center's] numbers indicate that the Ryan plan would reduce revenue by almost $4 trillion over the next decade. If you add these revenue losses to the numbers The Post cites, you get a much larger deficit in 2020, roughly $1.3 trillion.

And that’s about the same as the budget office’s estimate of the 2020 deficit under the Obama administration’s plans. That is, Mr. Ryan may speak about the deficit in apocalyptic terms, but even if you believe that his proposed spending cuts are feasible — which you shouldn’t — the Roadmap wouldn’t reduce the deficit. All it would do is cut benefits for the middle class while slashing taxes on the rich.

And I do mean slash. The Tax Policy Center finds that the Ryan plan would cut taxes on the richest 1 percent of the population in half, giving them 117 percent of the plan’s total tax cuts. That’s not a misprint. Even as it slashed taxes at the top, the plan would raise taxes for 95 percent of the population.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/06/opinion/06krugman.html?_r=1&hp


I guess it depends on what the meaning of "benefit" is huh? Or maybe on just what the meaning of "EVERYONE" is.

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August 6, 2010 9:28 AM   

EWWWWW, Obama is celebrating with blue collar workers, EWWWWWWWW, and they're in a union, DOUBLE EWWWWWWWWWW!!!

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August 6, 2010 9:41 AM    in reply to JohnW1141

And these guys have the nerve to CELEBRATE that GOP job killing do-nothingness didn't happen fully and completely? They ought to be ashamed to actually have jobs and contribute to our economy. If the GOP had their way, they would be on unemployment so they could dash even that by filibustering and extension of benefits. Who does Obama think he is standing in the way of another GOP mission accomplished?

/snark

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August 6, 2010 9:46 AM    in reply to SchoolyT

Oh, and now that they supposedly work for the gubmint (according to Bachmann), he just dissed newly-minted government employees.

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August 6, 2010 9:47 AM    in reply to SchoolyT

Double golden overtime bitch slap!

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August 6, 2010 9:45 AM   

Please visit the website of and donate to Cantor's opponent: Rick Waugh. http://www.rickwaugh.com

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August 6, 2010 10:00 AM    in reply to creweeny

Sadly the Virginia right-wing media are all but ignoring Waugh. They have already crowned Cantor while out of the other side of their mouths yelling about getting rid of the trash/incumbents in DC!

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August 6, 2010 10:06 AM    in reply to dswx

Its true that its not easy to get attention when Cantor's wife is on the board of the company (Media General) that conveniently owns all the major newspapers in the district. However, Rick is one of the most sincere and hardworking people running for Congress today (possibly the most). He's going to hold Cantor's feet to the fire come September and October. But he needs support.

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August 6, 2010 5:39 PM    in reply to creweeny

I wish the guy well, but Cantor is not likely to go down to defeat, not in this election cycle, anyway. Not that I wouldn't love to see it!

My out-of-district dollars are going to Tom Periello.

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August 6, 2010 10:03 AM   


I am a Vitginian and I am ashamed he is from my state. He doesn't reprsent my part of the state , but, I am still ashamed he is from Virginia

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August 6, 2010 11:00 AM    in reply to VAsouthernliberal

Ditto. But I guess as a resident of Northern VA, I'm not really a Virginian.

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August 6, 2010 11:37 AM   

You can't spell "can't" without Cantor.

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August 6, 2010 1:01 PM    in reply to Kaneblues

admirably close to bumpersticker territory, jus a bi long

how about "Cantor starts with "can't".

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August 6, 2010 1:22 PM    in reply to JEP07

Problem is, the repubs are doing quite well with "can't" and are proud of it, so the slogan, although a slam in our eyes, is cause for pride to them...

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August 6, 2010 1:26 PM    in reply to JEP07

That's a winner! Your on a roll!

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August 6, 2010 2:06 PM    in reply to JEP07

You can anagramitize "Cantor" into Rat Con.

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August 6, 2010 12:08 PM   

"Doesn't Obama know the real people to celebrate with are the Financial Industry?! Damn, now those folks have the real money and they're bathing in it baby! No more beer and BBQ, we're talking the GOP with the Elitists in New York! Whooooohooooo!!!"

Anyone notice more young GOPers in the NY strip clubs lately?

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August 6, 2010 1:09 PM   

Who makes those Democratic ads? Who the hell do they think the audience is? They ought to be targeted at "independents" who are apparently trending against Democrats because they've been swept up in "socialism!" propaganda. Do Dem messengers really expect that first person testimonials by three annoying teachers are going to move the needle with this audience? Surely calling out the total number of teachers cut (is it more than have been *hired* in India and China over the same period?), ballooning class sizes - hell, even cuts to athletic programs - would be more effective.

Do the Dems have anybody who knows how to play this game?

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August 6, 2010 2:17 PM    in reply to Minerva

I think it's an effective ad, particularly Jeff the History Teacher (he's like Joe the Plumber, only not a lunatic).

Who is going to side with John Boehner and against teachers? Particularly ones who have to spend hundreds of dollars of their own money to buy supplies for the children?

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August 6, 2010 2:57 PM    in reply to Joppoi

Republicans respect wealthy people, and the wealthy people they know all hate paying workers anything higher than subsistence wages. Unions make them pay what the labor is actually worth.

It's easier to shortchange your workers if you have great disdain for them in the first place. Since a high percentage of the wealthy conservatives inherited their wealth and don't actually know any people who do real and productive work, the disdain comes to them easily.

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August 6, 2010 4:22 PM    in reply to Richardxx

yeah, why feed those mules steak when there's plenty of crabgrass for them? Besides, it builds character.

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August 6, 2010 6:30 PM   

I'm suprised Cantor knew "lap" had more than one meaning in light of how much time he spends with his face planted in CEOs laps.

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