
Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) is slamming conservative opposition to the Muslim community center project near Ground Zero in New York City -- the city where he formerly resided for many years -- calling the attacks against it "one of the most disgraceful things that I've heard."
Franken made the remarks during an appearance in Springfield, Illinois, the State Journal-Register reports, at an event for Democratic county chairmen. Franken also alluded to the unfamiliarity with New York City that many people actually have in regard to this story. "I don't know how many of you have been to New York, but if a building is two blocks away from anything, you can't see it," said Franken.
Franken got in a joke, as well: "It's a community center. They're going to have a gym. They're going to have point guards. Muslim point guards."
On a more serious note, he also added: "They (Republicans) do this every two years. They try to find a wedge issue, and they try to work it."
Steve LaBonne
August 19, 2010 11:31 AM
Wow, a Democrat who doesn't go into a defensive cringe when the noise machine comes up with the latest bullshit "issue" (something Howard Dean, to his lasting disgrace, couldn't manage.) Good on Al.
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Tamim
August 19, 2010 12:19 PM in reply to Steve LaBonne
That's my Frankie.
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August 19, 2010 3:23 PM in reply to Tamim
the man is a beast
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pirate jenny
August 19, 2010 3:32 PM in reply to Josh
and a sexy one at that. damn, i love that man.
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Tamarat
August 19, 2010 3:30 PM in reply to Tamim
no -- he's mine -- I claim him!
Can't we clone him? Please?
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mcc
August 19, 2010 11:33 AM
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mcc
August 19, 2010 11:34 AM in reply to mcc
... okay so it turns out a post consisting entirely of " <3 "s gets interpreted by Movable Type as HTML and not displayed.
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 11:39 AM in reply to mcc
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 11:39 AM in reply to mcc
Har. You right. Thanks. Sometime Ugg want post, but have nothing to say. Har har har.
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Boidster
August 19, 2010 12:53 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
<3<3<3
It's so easy, a caveman can do it. The correct gobbleygook is:
<3
The "<" thing (don't forget the semi-colon!) causes it to display a "less-than" symbol.
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expat46
August 19, 2010 4:31 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
ROCFLMAO Har Har Har
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 7:08 PM in reply to expat46
Har har har. Someone should show to Sailorsubstitute, acriticalthinker, Silence. Har har har.
p.s. Hey whatever happen to Barney?
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Brownbagger
August 19, 2010 10:54 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
Between you and me Ugg, I do know Voodoo Woman was ... how shall I say ... unhappy with what Barney said to her. Silly, but I do know voodoo is not to be messed with. Barney insulted her, and she warned him. That's all I will say.
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August 19, 2010 7:11 PM in reply to expat46
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expat46
August 19, 2010 7:15 PM in reply to Brownbagger
LOL!!!
Hey Brownbagger! Good to see you.
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Brownbagger
August 19, 2010 7:33 PM in reply to expat46
You can see me! Har har har.
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Brownbagger
August 19, 2010 8:19 PM in reply to expat46
I must confess, I stole that line from Marinus. Funniest quip I've ever seen at TPM.
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expat46
August 20, 2010 12:54 AM in reply to Brownbagger
I remember that. Where in the world is Marinus anyway?
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stillidealistic
August 20, 2010 12:57 AM in reply to expat46
Alive and well...
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August 20, 2010 1:00 AM in reply to stillidealistic
Marinus? I hope so. I hope he's on a beach somewhere with a cocktail in his hand.
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stillidealistic
August 20, 2010 1:03 AM in reply to expat46
Close...I'll let him know you asked.
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chimpale
August 19, 2010 11:34 AM
That's my senator. We love you, Al!
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mythbuster
August 19, 2010 11:57 AM in reply to chimpale
I wish he were my senator.
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FreemanW
August 19, 2010 1:44 PM in reply to mythbuster
Maybe we can get the 14th Amendment removed and have just one Senator for all of us, Senator Al Franken.
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FreemanW
August 19, 2010 1:45 PM in reply to FreemanW
Was it the 14th that all the morons are going on about, that provides for direct election of Senators?
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Firstthingwedo
August 19, 2010 1:53 PM in reply to FreemanW
That's the 17th. 14th is that everyone born here has equal rights.
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FreemanW
August 19, 2010 5:31 PM in reply to Firstthingwedo
Sorry.
It is tough to keep track of the anti-chaos of the certifiably insane.
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takamori
August 19, 2010 9:33 PM in reply to FreemanW
I move before the august and honorable assembly of the people of TPM that Al Franken, heretofore known as the right Senator from Minnesota be elected to the office of Tribune of the United States of America.
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stlounick
August 19, 2010 11:35 AM
Agreed, it is disgraceful. And glad you're pointing it out.
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Mrwilson1
August 19, 2010 11:35 AM
he is absolutely right. The GOP attacks on Córdoba house are absolutely insane. And I hope that the Dems use this against the GOP during midterms.
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ohyeathatsright
August 19, 2010 12:32 PM in reply to Mrwilson1
This is "during midterms" and by and large, no Dems are caving.
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ohyeathatsright
August 19, 2010 12:33 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
That should be: No, Dems are caving. The comma makes all the difference.
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condew
August 19, 2010 1:13 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
Maybe a similar mistake on the Democratic talking points explains the poor behaviour. Are there Democratic talking points?
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ohyeathatsright
August 19, 2010 4:40 PM in reply to condew
Democrats also forgot their comma.
No Cordoba House
VS
No, Cordoba House!
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benjoya
August 19, 2010 11:38 AM
good on al indeed. feingold, too. and nadler and bloomberg. and okay, jeffrey freaking goldberg. do we have a minyan yet?
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biff diggerence
August 19, 2010 12:31 PM in reply to benjoya
American Jews who don't piss their pants at the mention of Muslim.
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 12:33 PM in reply to benjoya
Har har har. Leave to Jewish comedian to stand up for Muslims in oh-so-kind-and-Christian America? Har har har.
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Joekuh
August 19, 2010 3:28 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
Ug, for a caveman, you're pretty damn smart.
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 3:54 PM in reply to Joekuh
Har har har. Ugg here all week. Try veal. Har har har.
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benjoya
August 19, 2010 4:38 PM in reply to Ugg the Repug
is this audience or cave painting?
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 6:53 PM in reply to benjoya
Ugg not remember. Ugg find in my bearskin wallet when he defrosted. Do know it not Polaroid. Har har har.
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Snig
August 20, 2010 9:15 AM in reply to benjoya
I've blathered about this, but every Jew who's been asked "but you do have a Christmas tree?" and been told by some well meaning soul that unbelievers will burn in hell for all eternity should have a clue about this. It's explcitly stated in the faith to not oppress the stranger, as we were strangers once ourselves. Al's probably eaten a lot more porkchops and cheeseburgers then Leibermen but he's one hell of a better Jew.
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chimpale
August 19, 2010 11:40 AM
AND, they don't care which ethnic group, religion, nationality, or any other category of human beings they sic their base on. They'll vilify grandmas if they think there's political hay to make out of it. "Nothing personal, Grandma. We're just trying to stir up the asshole vote for November."
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Powkat
August 19, 2010 11:50 AM
Loved him on SNL, loved his radio show (except for dropping the Liesl) and love him in the Senate.
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libdevil
August 19, 2010 11:53 AM
So jealous of people who get to have him as their Senator.
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TheIronCage
August 19, 2010 5:31 PM in reply to libdevil
Yes, it's quite nice.
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Diomedes
August 19, 2010 11:55 AM
He is turning out to be a damn good Senator so far. Good for him, good for Minnesota and good for us all. Maybe we need more former comedians in government. Or maybe we just need more intelligent people. It's terrific when you get to hear anybody sound sane.
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aq
August 19, 2010 3:14 PM in reply to Diomedes
"Or maybe we just need more intelligent people."
That's the ticket. Well, intelligent, uncompromising, rational people.
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Tony C
August 19, 2010 11:58 AM
Wow, a democrat with a little integrity, he won't last unless he learns to cower to all republican self generated mass-hysteria.
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Progressive Party
August 19, 2010 12:02 PM
Rock On AL! Keep speaking up; we need your voice out there...
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xargaw
August 19, 2010 12:02 PM
Another reason to love Al. He is GREAT example of what you get when a Senator runs for office to serve the people instead of serving himself. He is smart, well educated, insists on being well informed and as a result, actually makes good decisions based on facts rather than political calculations. Now, if we only had 59 more Als.
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Leo Sigh
August 19, 2010 12:02 PM
Al Franken has always been one of the very few Democrats with balls. He doesn't care what people think, he'll tell you what he thinks and what he knows is right. I'd vote for him as President any day of the week. He's a hundred times better than the weenie we currently have in the White House.
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Official A
August 19, 2010 1:15 PM in reply to Leo Sigh
But he DOES care what people think. Remember him talking to opponents of health care reform at the state fair? Al's strength is that he uses reason (and sometimes humor) to try to influence how people think, something 99% of politicians are too lazy or corrupt to even attempt.
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midnight rambler
August 19, 2010 2:37 PM in reply to Official A
This, IMO, is the big difference between Democrats and Republicans. Republican politicians try to manipulate how people feel to what they want. Democratic politicians bend their public statements to what they think people feel - people who have already been manipulated by Republicans.
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pirate jenny
August 19, 2010 3:31 PM in reply to Official A
yes, he was *so* good with them; he actually got them to put down the pitchforks and torches for a second and listen. and he never talked down to any of them either, as impossible as that seems.
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Barry Ragin
August 19, 2010 12:04 PM
As long as it keeps working, they'll keep doing it, no?
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Viva!America!
August 19, 2010 12:06 PM
This is the stance every Democrat be taking - its the usual republican invented distraction so lets get back to the issues.
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georgia99
August 19, 2010 12:08 PM
Ask one simple question of anyone who voices their opposition - "How does this apply to the office for which you're running?"
I have no doubt that it doesn't have any relevance for the vast majority of them. I know of only one, Carl Paladino, who has said he'd use the power of the office to affect the outcome.
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August 19, 2010 2:34 PM in reply to georgia99
He's threatening to use eminent domain to wrest the property from its rightful owners. (Which would be a huge stretch for the legal use of eminent domain. Is "the greater common good" really served by preventing the building of a community center?)
Which sounds a heckuva lot like "big government" stepping on the toes of "the little guy."
And also a lot like "shredding the constitution" and "interfering with the rights of citizens."
Just for the TEA Partiers keeping score out there.
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jeffg166
August 19, 2010 12:12 PM
Thank you Al.
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crazycarnypoptart
August 19, 2010 12:21 PM
if you are against cordoba house you are not a true conservative. This is basically a property rights issue and they own the property so they can build anything they like there with in the boundaries of the law
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libdevil
August 19, 2010 12:21 PM
There are a handful of good Democrats out there. Franken, Sherrod Brown, probably a few more. It's only the other 80-90% who suck.
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Brian Schlosser
August 19, 2010 12:23 PM
And here I am, stuck with Mitch McConnell and probably soon Rand Paul... and Geoff Davis to boot!
Anyone MN republicans wanna trade representation?
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Tom
August 19, 2010 12:37 PM in reply to Brian Schlosser
Hey, I'm from KY, too. I've been shaking my head in disbelief about this, too. We almost put Mitch in the ditch in 2008. I haven't given up hope that we can push Rand into the sand.
Tom
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Jeffrey S
August 19, 2010 12:38 PM
Proud of my Senator.
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AlphaLiberal
August 19, 2010 12:43 PM
I love that man!
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Tom
August 19, 2010 12:52 PM
maybe you need to do a RASSMUSSEN pole
to find out if his views are weighted fairly.
Whats with you utter reliance on RASSMUSSEN.
Obama Job Approval (US)
Rasmussen Approve 45.0%
Disapprove 54.0% Obama Job Approval (US)
Rasmussen Conway (D) 41.0%
Paul (R) 51.0% KY-SEN
Rasmussen Favorable 58.0%
Unfavorable 36.0% Rand Paul Favorability (KY)
Rasmussen Favorable 47.0%
Unfavorable 43.0% Jack Conway Favorability (KY)
Rasmussen Approve 36.0%
Disapprove 63.0% Obama Job Approval (KY)
Aug. 17 / Disapprove 45.0% Steve Beshear Job Approval (KY)
Rasmussen
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leoklein
August 19, 2010 1:00 PM
I was at the event. He gave a great keynote. Here are a couple of pictures of the thing: http://liberalminded.org/node/571
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absurdity 007
August 19, 2010 1:13 PM
See ya Harry Reid,....Al Franken for majority leader!
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Zebracat
August 19, 2010 1:28 PM
So let’s see, a majority of the public now hint that the very existence of Muslims and their places of worship are the cause of the ills to AmeriKKKa starting with 9/11 and continuing to the current Muslim and semi black president. Okay, so let’s get rid of them! But first let’s just do a little mental exercise on how the elimination of undesirable people will go from these shores after that. I’ll start. I think it will go as follows:
1. Muslims (naturally)
2. Hispanics (dark skinned or with poor English)
3. Blacks (because you know how “those people are”)
4. Sikhs (always confused for Muslim)
5. American Indians (should have died out during the last purge)
6. Hindus (take all the jobs sent oversees)
7. Mixed race (ain’t right if it ain’t all white)
8. Gays (you didn’t think you were staying out of the closet did you?)
9. Jehovah Witnesses(heretics/ cult)
10. Mormons (cult/ heretics)
11. Jews (just always seemed to get dragged into these things)
12. Hare Krishna (nice but annoying non Christians/ cult)
13. Unitarian Universalists (dare to include everyone in their religion/ heretics)
14. Mentally disabled (easy target)
15. Physically disabled (just don’t look right)
16. Asians (because we realize we owe them too much money)
17. All smaller protestant faiths (heretics)
18. All Non Pope sanctioned Catholic sub-orthodoxies (heretics)
19. The non working poor (why not)
20. The working poor (same reason as above)
Then we the displaced will all get to sit back and watch the "Real American" Protestants and Catholics kick the crap out of each other to prove which one is god's chosen people. After they have their orgy of christian blood and death we can all just move back (there won't be enough "Real Americans" left to put up a fight)and try a society of tolerance next time. Feel free to disagree or modify the list as you see fit.
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Firstthingwedo
August 19, 2010 1:57 PM in reply to Zebracat
You should have Athiests in there at number 2.5
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midnight rambler
August 19, 2010 2:40 PM in reply to Firstthingwedo
You're way too optimistic. The last poll I saw, asking about groups they would never ever vote for if one was running for president, atheists were #1, just above Muslims. And this was just after 9/11.
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DancingBear
August 19, 2010 4:08 PM in reply to Zebracat
First they came for the Muslims....
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 4:15 PM in reply to Zebracat
Ugg only worship Sun. Not on list. I'm OK, right? Har har har.
p.s. Let Ugg know when we return. He bring ouch hammer. Har har har.
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Hobbes83
August 19, 2010 11:26 PM in reply to Zebracat
Gays should be MUCH higher by their estimates. I would even argue between Muslims and Hispanics. To be honest with you, they would rather get rid of us blacks before they get rid of the Hispanics because of the cheap labor.
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Phoebe Fay
August 19, 2010 1:42 PM
Yay Al! Way to stick with your principles. Can you please give Harry Reid some lessons in integrity.
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tctundra
August 19, 2010 1:51 PM
He stole the "point-guard line from John Steward, and managed to botch the joke's setup in the process. Please don't tell me that the senate has damaged Franken's sense of humor.
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August 19, 2010 1:53 PM
The ass-kissing here is amazing.Al Franken hasn't done a damn thing for the state.Yet you morons say he doing a great job.
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eric the red
August 19, 2010 1:59 PM in reply to Justin
Facebook tells me that you live in VA and are from NY. WTF do you know about what Franken has done for Minnesota?
I saw Al last week in a pizza joint in Minneapolis. Truth is, he has been a great Senator.
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bdop4
August 19, 2010 2:37 PM in reply to eric the red
Busted! Nice work, Eric!
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Ugg the Repug
August 19, 2010 4:19 PM in reply to eric the red
Har har har. Bustin' Justin. Good work. Ugg like. Har har har.
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pirate jenny
August 19, 2010 5:19 PM in reply to eric the red
lol! nice! and facebook also says he's part of the Richmond Tea Party.
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chimpale
August 19, 2010 2:12 PM in reply to Justin
I'll wait for you to actually do some research to back up your statement. It shouldn't take you more than a few minutes to find out that you're full of it. Overflowing with it, in fact.
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Max
August 19, 2010 1:54 PM
Thank you for speaking out for silent majority, who care about our constitution. Glad to have you as our senator.
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yellowdogfox1
August 19, 2010 3:16 PM
A wonderful contrast to the spineless nattering of Harry Reid. Ever since the memorable lunch at the Booksellers Convention when he called out Bill O'Reilly to his face in detail and at length I've admired Franken's straightforwardness and intelligence. We need many more like him.
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August 19, 2010 6:27 PM
I'm glad there's at least one Democrat who'll speak out about stuff like this. A lot of times, the casting of us as wimps feels pretty accurate when our senators refuse to ever take a stand on anything.
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Steelmen
August 19, 2010 8:08 PM
Good for Al. Where are the rest? Why is the archbishop getting involved? Sounds like he already made up his mind, comparing it to what happened on Staten Island.
Which is exactly the point--the people on staten Island didn't want it because they're bigots. If the one in Manhattan is opposed because it's too close to the WTC center, what's the excuse for Staten Island? And California? And Minnesota?
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Sagebrush
August 19, 2010 8:24 PM
Of Republicans, Franken said: "They try to find a wedge issue, and they try to work it."
Slight correction: They try to MANUFACTURE a wedge issue and they try to work it.
It has been this way for my entire lifetime (i.e., back to Joe McCarthy). Most irksome of all, it's always some variation on the theme "We're patriotic and you're not."
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August 19, 2010 10:30 PM
Does anyone remember the "Al Franken Decade"?
This guy has been funny for decades. Watch out NBA for those sleeper cell point guards!
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August 19, 2010 10:33 PM
By the way, thank God (or whomever) for TPM message boards. After reading the posts on Yahoo! for months, I was ready to shoot myself. Every inbred, TURNER DIARIES reading nutbar in the U.S. must use Yahoo! as his/her sole online news source. That is, when they are not masturbating to Gretchen Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and the rest of Rupert Murdoch's bimbo militia.
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ejbisme
August 20, 2010 7:51 AM in reply to Ortho
Yeah I avoid reading the postings on Yahoo - toxic! Applause for the hardy souls who actually try to post sane responses there, but my head and heart can't take the climate there.
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August 20, 2010 11:25 AM in reply to ejbisme
Intellectually, I know that many of the Yahoo! posts are the product of trolls paid by the RNC and conservative blogs, but they still make my blood boil. Like you, my head and heart can't take that poisonous environment.
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