
According to Google, the proposed Islamic community center in lower Manhattan is 1,275 miles away from downtown Miami, Florida. But that doesn't mean the proposed Cordoba House that's likely to be constructed blocks away from the former site of the Twin Towers hasn't become a big issue in Florida politics.
Republican Senate candidate Marco Rubio -- already an ardent supporter of all things conservative (if you don't count his against-it-before-I-was-kind-of-for-it stance on Arizona's immigration law) -- is taking a firm stand with the rest of his party by vocally opposing the Cordoba House project.
"It is divisive and disrespectful to build a mosque next to the site where 3,000 innocent people were murdered at the hands of Islamic extremism," Rubio said in a statement Saturday.
Both men running for the GOP's gubernatorial nomination say basically the same thing. Attorney General Bill McCollum says he'd be OK with a Muslim construction project "farther away" from the Ground Zero site and former hospital exec Rick Scott is already running a TV ad attacking "Obama's Mosque."
So that's that. Anti-mosque Republicans can stand by their men in the Sunshine State.
[TPM SLIDESHOW: Welcome To The Neighborhood? A Look At The Area Around The 'Ground Zero Mosque']
But if you're a Democratic voter, the decision is a bit more difficult. In the Senate race, independent Charlie Crist and Democratic Rep. Kendrick Meek have each stood up for the Muslim community center. If you're a Democrat who takes serious issue with New York City zoning law (and/or the First Amendment), Jeff Greene is ready to fight for you.
"I'm not going to step in front of the decision that has already been made in New York City," Meek said in a debate Sunday, according to the Palm Beach Post. "I think it's important when we look at these issues, we're running for the United States Senate here in Florida."
"Should they be a little bit more sensitive? I think some sensitivity is there," he added. "I understand that and I recognize that. But I think it's important that we as the United States of America don't step in."
The other guy looking for Democratic votes in the Senate race this fall, Gov. Charlie Crist, goes farther than Meek in his suggestion that the the Constitution comes first when it comes to the Cordoba House project.
"We are a country in my view that stands for freedom of religion. You know, respect for others," Crist told CNN on Saturday. "I know there are sensitivities and I understand that, but I think Mayor Bloomberg is right and I think the President is right."
On the other hand, Greene, the billionaire investor who has gone to great financial lengths to tear down Meek in the Democratic primary, came out strongly this weekend against the Cordoba House project.
"President Obama has this all wrong and I strongly oppose his support for building a mosque near Ground Zero," Greene said in a strong statement Saturday following Obama's first comments on the topic. "Especially since Islamic terrorists have bragged and celebrated destroying the Twin Towers and killing nearly 3,000 Americans."
"Freedom of religion might provide the right to build the mosque in the shadow of Ground Zero," Greene added, "but common sense and respect for those who lost their lives and loved ones gives sensible reason to build the mosque someplace else."
Greene, who is Jewish, has worked rather hard to garner support from Florida's elderly Jewish voters and has taken a position that's in line with the view of the Anti-Defamation League. (Other prominent Jewish groups, of course, have expressed a view on the project more in line with Obama's.)
Whatever his reasoning for taking such a hardline against the Cordoba House, it looks like Greene is reading the same political strategy memos as the Democrats' likely nominee for Governor, state Chef Financial Officer Alex Sink. She told the St. Petersburg Times she opposed the project on the grounds that "the wishes of the 9/11 victims' families and friends must be respected."
Primary voters head to the polls Aug. 24. The TPM Poll Averages for the big races are as follows:
Senate: Crist 35.4, Rubio 34.1, Meek 16.8
Senate: Crist 36.8, Rubio 34.4, Greene 16.5
GOP gubernatorial primary: Scott 37.9, McCollum 34.9
Governor: Sink 33.3, McCollum 30.7, Chiles 13.6
Governor: Sink 34.3, Scott 27.9, Chiles 15.8
antb
August 16, 2010 5:02 PM
Unbelievable how out-of-control this story has become. Obama did not "support" the building of this mosque - he only said (correctly) that the govt has no legal recourse and should stay out of it. As it should. It doesn't matter what anybody thinks about it, the owners of that building have followed the law and now they can build their mosque. It doesn't matter a bit what you think, what I think (for the record I think the landscape is littered with far too many churches, synagogues AND mosques, and in a perfect world they would all be banned) or what some jackass senate wannabe in FL thinks.
Score: Constitution - 1; those who would not defend it - 0
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InfidelHere
August 16, 2010 5:09 PM
Please...Islam is a religion/idealogy of HATE...always has, always will be.
Anytime you open up a mosque, you are opening up a HATE center. Opening up this mosque would be like opening up a Nazi club across the street of a Jewish cememtary.
Why is Islam full of hate? Just look at the word "Islam" which means "peace" IF (huge 'If' here) when one "submits and surrenders to allah and their way (sharia) of life". If you don't, all bets are off and there is NO PEACE. Never has and never will be. History is clear on this.
The evidence - the only evidence - proves beyond any doubt that "good" Muslims are terrorists and hate anything to do with freedom and liberty is because Muhammad, Islam's lone prophet and Allah's singular voice, was a ruthless and dedicated terrorist/pedophile himself. Islamic militants, which the PC crowd deems as "insurgents" today, are actually GOOD Muslims, not bad ones.
Where are the women's groups? Islam is a religion that even treats women like DOGS. Shoot...even the koran instructs husbands how to BEAT THEIR WIVES (4:34). You just can't make this hate up!!
The jihadists haven't corrupted Islam, hijacked their religion, nor interpreted it incorrectly, and therefore they aren't radicals. Again...Islam isn't a peaceful religion; it is a declaration of war against all mankind. It has been that way since their prophet wandered out of his cave proclaiming he spoke to allah and now must fight for him. While bad Muslims can be moderate and peaceful, they have no influence because the koran with its 100's of passages of hate tells good Muslims to kill them.
You just can't make this stuff up. See it in their koran, their Hadiths and Sura's and the religion of islam is indeed a religion of hate against all that are NON-Muslims!
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Afan
August 16, 2010 5:26 PM in reply to InfidelHere
You ignorance is showing and besides the Bible sanctioned the use of regulated slavery in the Old Testament.In the book of Genesis, Noah condemns Ham and his descendents to perpetual servitude: "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers" (Gn 9:25). T. David Curp notes that this episode has been used to justify racialized slavery, since "Christians identified Ham's descendents as black Africans". In both Europe and the United States many Christians went further, arguing that slavery was actually justified by the words and doctrines of the Bible.
[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts - Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America [105]
Every hope of the existence of church and state, and of civilization itself, hangs upon our arduous effort to defeat the doctrine of Negro suffrage - Robert Dabney, a prominent 19th century Southern Presbyterian pastor
... the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example - Richard Furman, President, South Carolina Baptist Convention
Some members of fringe Christian groups like the Christian Identity movement, and the Ku Klux Klan (an organization dedicated to the "empowerment of the white race"), and Christian Reconstructionists still argue that slavery is justified by Christian doctrine today. Slavery in the United States devastated traditional culture and religion among Africans. Slaves in the eighteenth century came from various African societies, cultures, and nations, such as the Igbo, Ashanti and Yoruba on the West African Coast. Consequently, slaves from differing ethnic groups displayed few commonalities. Africans were black, but did not experience a homogenous existence; they shared little of their traditional cultures and religions. So if you take a wet towel and twisted it, the blood of slavery is from Christianity.
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aq
August 16, 2010 5:34 PM in reply to InfidelHere
*sigh*...
and christianity/judaism was so much better?
multiple holy wars, stonings... hell, remember the battle of Jericho? the systematic way the old testement, especially in Leviticus denigrated and ostracized women?
You're trying to make the case that because Islam is 'anti-feminist', that we, who are feminist, should agree with you. The problem is your basis on modern religion being architecturally sexist... modern christianity, islam, and judaism both have significantly progressed into understanding the sexes (kinda), catholics are working their way there (some blatantly refuse to admit that men and women are 'equal' under the eyes of God as his children).
It's so eerily parallel to conservative protestantism in america though.
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mythbuster
August 16, 2010 5:43 PM in reply to InfidelHere
Nice touch: " It has been that way since their prophet wandered out of his cave proclaiming he spoke to allah and now must fight for him."
And Moses supposedly got two tablets from God, written in God's own hand. And the Israelites promptly lost them.....
And why aren't the Jews looking for them?
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BillSoo
August 16, 2010 5:46 PM in reply to InfidelHere
Please!!
Sure Islam has those aspects to it, so do Christianity and Judaism. This should not be surprising since all three are rooted in the old testament.
In any case, like the other old testament religions, Islam is itself broken into a number of sects. The biggest are the Sunni and the Shi'a but there are also others like the Sufi. While they all believe in Mohammed and the Koran, just as Christians believe in Christ and the Bible, how they externalize their faith can be as different as Quakers and Catholics. So tarring all muslims for the actions of a few is simply wrong.
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Tamim
August 16, 2010 7:10 PM in reply to InfidelHere
As a Muslim, please don't lecture to me what Islam is or isn't.
I find it so funny that the bigots like you in the mold of Robert Spencer a la Jihadwatch go around lecturing people about what Islam "truly teaches."
With your hateful rants and paranoia you'd think 1% of the population is about to confine you into eternal slavery.
Bigots like you must be confronted at every stop.
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Hobbes83
August 17, 2010 12:07 AM in reply to InfidelHere
So by this reasoning, you should do two things:
1. Judge all Christians by the radical and fundamentalist groups, no matter how zealous they are. Along with that, we should also take all the verses in the bible, a few of which have been mentioned upthread, and apply that to ALL Christians.
2. We should prohibit Mosques from being built, along with churches, synagogues and all other religious buildings and places of worship.
See, the problem with being prejudice when it comes to religion is that no one religion really has clean hands when it comes to atrocities and such. Being a bigot might be nice, but it doesn't make you friends.
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jfields
August 16, 2010 5:28 PM
The headline on this article needs a rewrite.
The issue of the Mosque Which Might Be A Few Blocks From The Site Of Some Tragedy We Should All Forget About In The Most Densely Populated City In The US (I like my moniker better than the absurd "Ground Zero Mosque") did not "fall into" the political spotlight, in FL or anywhere else.
Fall into? Please.
The issue was focus grouped, plotted, devised, and systematically pushed into the public discourse by the GOP media machine, and is now proceeding, as planned, to take over the national political discourse, just in time for the midterm elections. Gosh! What a coincidence!
Get me rewrite!
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Walter Mitty
August 16, 2010 5:40 PM
For crying out loud - Muslims died in the attack. Hundreds of them.
Reid agreed with Rubio.
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jeffgee
August 16, 2010 5:57 PM
Is there a chip in every GOPer's head that syncs them all to the crazy meme of the day? Or is it Fox News?
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jfields
August 17, 2010 12:22 AM in reply to jeffgee
It's Fox News.
Glad I could be of help.
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