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Influential Donor May Bolt From GOP Over Anti-Muslim Hysteria


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An influential Muslim GOP donor is at the end of her tether, and tells TPM she may eventually have to leave the Republican party over its opposition to the Cordoba House project and other anti-Muslim positions.

"I don't know if I'll be a Republican a year from now," says Seeme Hasan, who chairs the Hasan Family Foundation in Colorado, and has close ties to the Republican party leadership. Hasan's frustration with the GOP was evident, and not just over their public opposition to the construction of a Muslim cultural center in lower Manhattan. "Every time a Muslim person becomes famous, they are viciously attacked," Hasan said.

"The past few years in the Republican party has been constant humiliation for Muslims," Hasan told TPM in an interview yesterday evening.

Hasan continues to support the Republican party, including the GOP's Senate nominee from Colorado, Ken Buck, who also opposes the Cordoba project.

Interestingly, though, Hasan says at this point, Republican politicians have little choice but to join the GOP in opposing Cordoba House, and she understands that.

"I would tell him to go ahead and be against it. I did not support it when the top people started this. I did not support that," Hasan said. "Newt and Sarah Palin and all the others made it so the rest of the Republicans have no choice."

Over the past decade, Hasan said, she and her husband have given over a million dollars to the Republican party, and it was evident in conversation with her that she's on a first name basis with party party leaders. "All Republicans in Washington know us," Hasan said. "They could have called to say, 'Hey we are going to come out against this mosque, what do you think?' It's sad."

Though she called into question whether or not she'll remain in the Republican party, Hasan said that in any case it will be difficult, if not impossible, for her to be as supportive of the GOP's presidential nominee in 2012 as she was of George W. Bush in 2000. She says she has only one reason to suspect she'll put a great deal of effort into defeating Barack Obama: His policies are perhaps more anti-Muslim, Hasan says, as Bush's were. "It's like my son says, he's been more hawkish than Dick Cheney."

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August 19, 2010 11:37 AM   

Whether it's gay Republicans, Black Republicans, Hispanic Republicans, or Muslim GOP donors.....are they truly too dense to grasp that their party is openly hostile to their ethnicity/lifestyle, and would likely rid them off the Earth if given the chance?

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August 19, 2010 11:41 AM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Too right mate

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August 19, 2010 11:55 AM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Couldn't agree more. As an American Muslim who supported Bush in 2000 (one of the worst mistakes of my life) because during a debate with Gore he said he opposed "secret evidence against Muslim suspects" and was PERCEIVED to be less pro-Israel than Gore (b/c Lieberman was his VP)... Muslims have since more than any other religious group voted overwhelmingly for Democrats, esp. Obama v McCain (remember the anti-Muslim slurs during campaign).

It is astounding then, the shameful silence of Democrats to stand up for God's sake, if not for us, then THE FREAKIN' CONSTITUTION.

The bigotry of the bigots/igorants if they are successful in creating a Muslim-free zone in NYC would have repercussion that will be far and wide. And does anyone reasonably think, Pamela Gellar, Liz Cheney, Robert Spencer, Rev. Fischer would stop there?

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Muslims..."

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August 19, 2010 12:17 PM    in reply to Tamim

They came first for the Muslims?
What about blacks and gays?

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August 19, 2010 2:35 PM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

You missed the point.

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August 19, 2010 4:38 PM    in reply to benny 4 facts

No actually I didn't. You missed mine though.

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August 19, 2010 1:12 PM    in reply to Tamim

Uhhh, the last time I checked, the President stood up to the bigots and said that Muslims had the same right to practice their religion as others.

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August 19, 2010 1:24 PM    in reply to jsdc007

he also said no backroom dealing, no lobbyists and that he would stand up against the corp scum...he lies so often we should use his tongue for wind power generation!

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August 19, 2010 1:27 PM    in reply to jsdc007

and then he qualified his remarks with the needless "wisdom" comment. not quite a swing and a miss! more a foul tip.

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August 19, 2010 1:48 PM    in reply to martis

Wisdom comment? Why not provide the entire quote?

Because it wouldn't support the disingenuous point you're trying to make. If you're argument is truly strong there's no need to distort.

"“I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there. I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding,”

And that wasn't in any way conflicting with his initial statement.

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August 19, 2010 2:24 PM    in reply to uweeb

Where a church gets built is not in a president's jurisdiction (just as neither was the fate of Terry Schaivo). His comment was correct. He should not comment on the wisdom of this mosque; he should (and did) affirm that he will uphold the Constitution (as he is sworn to do).

Should things continue to spiral into lunacy, I suppose it might become wise to comment more thoroughly on the Constitution. But right now, he's done the right thing.

In the meantime, I'd worry that without ANY Muslims in the GOP, that party will find it has no brakes whatsoever on its attempt to vilify an entire, major world religion.

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August 19, 2010 3:08 PM    in reply to hotspur

"In the meantime, I'd worry that without ANY Muslims in the GOP, that party will find it has no brakes whatsoever on its attempt to vilify an entire, major world religion."

I get your point, 'Spur, but it's already happened with or without Muslims in the party. I believe that this issue is only going to get worse.

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August 19, 2010 3:17 PM    in reply to Eye-C

Someone posted a link to this video yesterday.

English Defence League: Inside the violent world of Britain's new far right. Undercover Guardian investigation reveals plan by English Defence League to hit racially sensitive areas in attempt to provoke disorder over summer

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation

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August 19, 2010 5:06 PM    in reply to expat46

How much you want to bet that they run hand-in-hand with UKIP?

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August 19, 2010 4:06 PM    in reply to Eye-C

Hmmm. No brakes. Perhaps they'll drive off a cliff.

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August 19, 2010 4:16 PM    in reply to housewife

My hope exactly. Or mobilize the seedy underbelly of racist and ignorant american voters... then retake congress.

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August 19, 2010 4:27 PM    in reply to Alex

She's a liberal plant to make the GOP look bad.

No, scratch that, plants are smarter than this moron and the GOP needs nothing to make them look bad.

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August 19, 2010 2:22 PM    in reply to jsdc007

Speaking up to bigots once and then backtracking as he always does (Rev. Wright, Prof. Gates, Shirley Sherrod should resign before Glenn Beck is on) or staying shamefully silent thereafter doesn't count for much.

And I'm of the opinion he was speaking more to an international Muslim audience (as Bush did when invoking Islam is peace then proceeded to kill Muslims in Iraq/Afghanistan/Lebanon/Gaza/Somalia) than standing with American Muslims inalienble rights to practice their religion without intimidation.

Btw, he still yet to visit a mosque, b/c he is paralyzed the nation would think he's a Muslim. Heck he and his campaign even called being labeled 'Muslim' erroneously in 2008 a "slur."

Even his long silence before he spoke up was wrong. Better than most shamefully silent Dems? Sure, but is that how low we are going to guage his moral/political courageous compass?

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August 19, 2010 3:20 PM    in reply to Tamim

Labeling him a Muslim was intended as a slur. It was intended to pray on the paranoia and ignorance of huge swaths of voters.

My friend's family is from Florida and half of them are now convinced that Obama is working for the terrorists. "He's officially siding with the terrorists to build the Ground Zero Mosque -- what more proof do you need?" Actual quote. Some of them voted for him in 2008 but say they won't in 2012. They are low-info (zero-info) voters and they are swing voters in a swing state. So: there are very real practical reasons why Obama hasn't visited a mosque. Try not to take it personally.

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August 19, 2010 4:37 PM    in reply to hotspur

A friend of mine (from Canada) claimed that our (America's) biggest problem is lack of education. But I'm assuming most of the people you're talking about have at least high-school diplomas? If that's the case, then what DO we do about these "zero-info" voters? Especially if they're perfectly happy REMAINING "zero-info" voters. Though I'm sure they'd say they are quite well-informed...

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August 19, 2010 5:43 PM    in reply to yuletide

Canada is correct. Our problem is education. Have you ever talked to a high school graduate? Most of them can't even name the three branches of government in this country.

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August 19, 2010 4:42 PM    in reply to Tamim

How *dare* you question this man's morality? Two words, and I don't use them often: Fuck you.

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August 19, 2010 5:35 PM    in reply to Tamim

He visited the Blue Mosque in Istanbul on April 7, 2009. You're a liar Tamim.

http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2009/04/07/obama-at-the-blue-mosque.html

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August 19, 2010 3:18 PM    in reply to jsdc007

Uhhh, the last time I checked, the President stood up to the bigots and said that Muslims had the same right to practice their religion as others.

Yes, but that's no more than most of the antis are conceding. He just stops short of actually saying that it shouldn't be built. I'd have liked him to go a little further in defending the moderate Muslims who are behind this project and calling shame on the people who are trying to inflame opinion against them, or at least telling people to chill and leave it up to the owners and the proper authorities in the city to work out, the way it would be done with any other group and any other piece of property in the country. Which working out, incidently, has already been done.

I guess I want Obama to sound a little more like Keith Olbermann and a little less like Harry Reid.

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August 19, 2010 3:39 PM    in reply to slb

Also, as Tamim has notied, Obama was slow to make even the limited statement he did make. And there may be good reasons for that, but even assuming that to be true, it was an unfortunate optic.

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August 19, 2010 4:18 PM    in reply to slb

The difference is that for as much as I enjoy listening to Olbermann, he is unelectable. #2 As a private citizen, Olbermann has every right to voice his personal opinion on matters of Constitutionality and public opinion.

I understand if people don't want it built. I didn't want a WalMart to be built locally. But ultimately, it's not the decision of those who disagree to make.

Obama has a fiduciary obligation to the Constitution and to remain neutral on the wisdom. Imagine the outrage of a Justice Thomas protesting at a proposed abortion clinic construction while an abortion rights case being argued in the SC.

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August 19, 2010 2:41 PM    in reply to Tamim

Ugg ask this. If mosque near 9/11 and destroyed, would it be allowed to rebuild? Would Christians be sensitive? Sensitive which way?

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August 19, 2010 6:07 PM    in reply to Ugg the Repug

Christians are very sensitive when anyone questions the reality of their SkyDaddy. Even when they say they aren't.

But that really isn't the point. The point is that they are pretending that Islam is any where close to Christianity when it comes to persecution and the slaughter of innocents. They are pretending that there is anything other than racial and religious bigotry driving their hate.

And the fRight Wing and the Republicans are lapping up the ignorance and hate. The absolute worst thing is that this is going to swing elections towards the Republicans. If the Evil Empire retakes either house of Congress this year, this will almost surely be the deciding issue.

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August 19, 2010 6:37 PM    in reply to farnsworth

Ugg not like to brag, but this not first time Ugg defrosted. Also happened about 2,000 years ago. Ran into Jesus at fishhouse. Had some wine and shared fried Tilapia platter. Too salty for Ugg, but I digress. Anyway, nice fellow. In short, Ug knew Christ. Christ friend of Ug. Farnsworth, trust Ug, these people not Christians. Har har har.

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August 19, 2010 3:51 PM    in reply to Tamim

Nicely said

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August 19, 2010 12:05 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Masochists?

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August 19, 2010 12:08 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Muslims, Hispanics, Blacks, Women, Gays & Lesbians, Liberals, Progressives, Moderates, the Poor and the Middle Class.

If all of those who have been vilified and marginalized by the republican party simply decided to vote for their best interests, we could finally put the GOP to rest once and for all.

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August 19, 2010 1:02 PM    in reply to Kaneblues

Don't forget the Unemployed.

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August 19, 2010 2:04 PM    in reply to Ana Gama

Or the Elderly or Disabled.

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August 19, 2010 10:33 PM    in reply to lapdogs

Shit! I am unemployed and disabled.

Oh, wait, never mind. I can think critically. They hate me anyway.

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August 19, 2010 4:04 PM    in reply to Kaneblues

Best thing I've read all week! I like the way you think..

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August 19, 2010 4:28 PM    in reply to Kaneblues

Or anyone that actually works for a living.

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August 19, 2010 4:41 PM    in reply to Kaneblues

"I would tell him to go ahead and be against it. I did not support it when the top people started this. I did not support that," Hasan said. "Newt and Sarah Palin and all the others made it so the rest of the Republicans have no choice."

There is always a choice.

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August 19, 2010 8:51 PM    in reply to Kaneblues

Possibly, but I don't believe their evil ever rests. These bastards will come back & haunt us. In other words, the ignorance & pure meannesss of the neo-cons, may be eternal.

On second thought, that was my pessimistic view. Really, I think you're totally right. Squash them now & forever.

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August 19, 2010 12:22 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

I believe that noted 21st Century philosopher Sean Combs said it best: "It's all about the Benjamins." Rich folks—of all religions, ethnicities, and sexual orientations—vote with their wallets. The GOP is perceived (emphasis on perceived) as the party of fiscal responsibility, tax cuts, and laissez-faire economics.

People will subject themselves to all sorts of indignities if it means they can continue to get paid. Which, of course, makes them no different than prostitutes.

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August 19, 2010 6:46 PM    in reply to Ortho

I know some Republicans and they are sincerely convinced everyone votes strictly according to financial self-interest. When I say I vote according to principles which aim toward making the country more fair for more people (inspired as I am by the Declaration of Independence), they think I am lying to make myself sound better.

Of course, these people also voted Yes on Prop 8 -- so, I need to ask them what financial self-interest they saw there.

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August 20, 2010 8:30 AM    in reply to Ortho

The problem is a lot of Americans think they're richer than they are, or are going to get richer than they're going to. The actual rich don't want the money. They have it, they realize it's limited, that the world still sucks and will continue to do so until large organizations like governments are empowered to fix things and to stop others from breaking them even worse.

It's not the fault of the rich so much as of the servants of the rich and the deeply delusional easily manipulated 40%.

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August 19, 2010 12:28 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Whether it's gay Republicans, Black Republicans, Hispanic Republicans, or Muslim GOP donors.....are they truly too dense to grasp that their party is openly hostile to their ethnicity/lifestyle, and would likely rid them off the Earth if given the chance?

I don't think that's strictly true. Many -- maybe most -- Republican voters would like to rid the country of anyone who isn't non-Hispanic White, heterosexual and Christian.

But Republican politicians need gays and Hispanics and Blacks and Muslims and atheists. They need someone to vilify and demonize. How else are they going to mobilize their mouthbreathing constituency to the polls?

There has to be an enemy. There has to be someone to fear. That's their blueprint for power.

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August 19, 2010 1:01 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

It's not just a blueprint. A general paranoia and dread is part of their hard wiring. While it sounds counter intuitive, feeding their paranoia and thus creating increased angst and agitation produces the release of endorphins to the brain.

The bottom line is that certain conservatives are pathologically addicted to fear and anger. Much the same way a smoker craves nicotine.

It's why FOX's ratings are higher under Obama than under Bush. FOX News is to pathological conservatives as 3 packs-a-day are to smokers.

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August 19, 2010 1:22 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

+1

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August 19, 2010 1:31 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

After one enemy is exhausted, it is simple to find another one. Maybe it will be the Jews, or the working poor, or the highly educated, "the intelligentsia", who knows. But finding labels for people and groups to make into Others is trivially easy. Muslims, Hispanics, etc. are just easy to Other because they have distinct habits and many of them also have distinct appearances by ethnic heritage. But it does not mean, were they to be "purged", that there will be other Others to focus on next.

This, by the way, is the road to totalitarianism. And its end goal is the destruction of all human plurality.

(All this is why the ADL's stance is all the more painful. Let alone Israel in general.)

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August 19, 2010 1:39 PM    in reply to eratosthenes8

They'd have to fall back on the older enemies: the Catholics (it wasn't that long ago that people thought Catholics were all secretly swearing allegiance to the Pope), the college-educated (see Mann Coulter's recent remarks about speaking on campus being like "visiting al Qaeda"), etc etc etc.

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August 19, 2010 3:24 PM    in reply to Matt Jones

My southern baptist stepmother still thinks there's something wrong about catholics. She just can't quite put her finger on what it is.

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August 19, 2010 1:11 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

In the end, for some, financial interests trump everything else.

You can discriminate against me, call me names, throw my children in torture cells, invade the country of my ancestors . . . but if you promise to not raise my taxes I'll support you.

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August 19, 2010 3:16 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

The mosque being built in New York City is not the issue...it's only the vehicle for something more nastier. What's really ripping at the fabric of the Constitution by people claiming to be true Americans and wanting their country back is a desire to force the issue America is a christian nation and all others need to leave.

Here's the url to a video on GUBA called The Fundamentalist that was produced by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Yes...Australia.

url : http://www.guba.com/watch/3000085692/The-Fundamentalists-Part-1-of-3

The main character they focus on in America is average evangelical from Dayton, Tennessee, June Griffin. In the documentary, she states "we don't have mosques here, but they will be here if we don't put a stop to it.

Another person goes into an semi-angry rant at the interviewer saying he doesn't live there...as if you don't have the right to question our motives..., American has always been a christian country, it's the Trinity vs. USA...God vs. Government, and goes further to say they're not going to change their ways to appease anyone so if you don't like it, go back to where you came from because you're not welcome here.

And to add a final emphasis her to point, Griffin further states they have the right to decide what religion can be practiced in their community. And if someone wants to build something contrary, they won't get a building permit because it's dangerous...they might come in here and kill us.

This documentary wasn't just aired Downunder recently... it aired in in August of 2007. That means Griffin was interviewed between 2005 and 2006.

It's nothing more than blatant religious intolerance that has been slowly spreading thru the evangelical community for the last 4 to 5 years. The mosque in New York City was nothing more than an opportunity to strike out for pushing their agenda...declare christianity the religion of America.

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August 19, 2010 4:13 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Anyone with the slightest shred of humanity should be thoroughly humiliated to align with the contemporary GOP.

/that is all

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August 19, 2010 6:53 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

good, she will be right at home with the democrats, with the gays, the lgbtq, the welfare takers and the illegal immigrants. also the killers of the unborn and worst of all, the trial lawyers. put all these groups together and they would kill each other, which if you look at the polls, is already happening.

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August 19, 2010 6:55 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

good, she will be right at home with the democrats, with the gays, the lgbtq, the welfare takers and the illegal immigrants. also the killers of the unborn and worst of all, the trial lawyers. put all these groups together and they would kill each other, which if you look at the polls, is already happening.

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August 19, 2010 8:16 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

no duh, I agree....are they completely void of any brains or what? Republicans NEED to hate, it's in their DNA, everyday it's someone or something else. There is NEVER any flowers in their garden -- just weeds. It's unreal, to hear them talk life is over, they hate absolutely everything everywhere. So negative. You know they have to be miserable. Hatred and money are the only two things that keep them alive.

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August 19, 2010 8:21 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

In addition the the minuscule number of non-white republicans, might just possibly be of interest to focus attention on the millions upon millions of white republicans. Like 50-60-70% of white folks are republican.

I can appreciate how it's more fun to talk about the vanishingly small number of non-white republicans, though.

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August 19, 2010 8:27 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

The people you list just might be hostile to their own ethnicity. (I don't thing being gay is a lifestyle.)

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August 19, 2010 8:59 PM    in reply to jolly ranchero

For Rich people there is only one issue: money.

The Republican party stands only for one thing: the ever greater concentration of wealth and power.

Remember - values, decency, morals etc... are a middle class phenomina, rich people don't need them, nor see the point of themn, poor people can't afford them.

In a pseudo-democracy it's hard for the Rich to get the numbers they need to pursue their agenda.

As a result, they learned, a long, long, long time ago, that if they whore themselves out on different cultural issues, they can still scrape enough votes and pursue their agenda. GNP has gone up 150% since 1972, but median wage has remained flat - while the top 1% has increased their wealth 300%.

The pay off is so big, that the cultural afront has to be pretty big to make them blanch.

She's a rich muslim, until now, being rich drove her political persuasion to the extent that she would tolerate a lot of anti-muslim rhetoric from her own party, because that's part of the schtick that helps Republicans the votes they need to gain power, so they can carry on stealing the middle classes lunch money.

Only now, when its overly agregious, does being muslim so much as cause her to speak out. All she's really doing is sending a signal to the party to tone things down a tad. If they do, she'll be writing more checks made out to the Republican party.

So, I wouldn't give her another moments consideration. She's a greedy greedy political whore, like all republicans, who are on a campaign to destroy the economy of the United States for the sake of concentrating wealth.

I hope lots of Republicans live to regret their decisions, but then again, if that happens, I'll probably be dead or living in a van down by the river.

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August 20, 2010 8:23 AM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Yeah, don't they fear the Night of the Long Trunks?

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August 20, 2010 9:22 AM    in reply to jolly ranchero

Forget about donating. What about being a member? It doesn't matter if you're gay/straight/black/white/muslim/Jain whatever. It's obvious the only people in charge of the right are the crazies. It started with Rush and now has come to openly calling for the government to prevent the building of a religious building. Now that they feel they've "WON" this Mosque thing they are getting even crazier. Examples:

This guy's proposing "Reagan's Law" which bans air traffic in the hallowed airspace above NYC.

He also says that Civilization 5 (a game) is a Muslim Theocracy Simulator

I remember a time when you didn't have to be insane to belong to one of the major political parties

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August 19, 2010 11:39 AM   

Actually I'm mildly surprised that women can identify Republicans, given how thoroughly and consistently the GOP works for their subjugation. It's downright amazement when I encounter Republican gays, Hispanics, African-Americans or Muslims. What are these people thinking?

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August 19, 2010 11:47 AM    in reply to Pacific NW Mark

Follow the money - most of them are more interested in the "no taxes for the rich" part of the platform.

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August 19, 2010 11:53 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Ha! I was typing my reply while you were typing yours... "Great minds..."

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August 19, 2010 11:52 AM    in reply to Pacific NW Mark

Follow the money... To quote Krusty the Klown: "I know Sideshow Bob framed me for armed robbery, but man I'm achin' for that upper class tax cut"

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August 19, 2010 12:10 PM    in reply to Pacific NW Mark

she makes her money by screwing over illegal immigrants and in oil of course she is GOP scum

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August 19, 2010 1:19 PM    in reply to Pacific NW Mark

she's muslim, she is used to being a second class citizen

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August 19, 2010 1:25 PM    in reply to Pacific NW Mark

Subjugation? Isn't that a tad hyperbolic?

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August 19, 2010 2:24 PM    in reply to miggsathon

Reproductive rights, access to child care, equal pay for equal work... what word might you use?

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August 19, 2010 4:23 PM    in reply to miggsathon

Subjugation? Isn't that a tad hyperbolic?

That is the height of absurdity, to suggest anyone taking a contrarian point of view to the contemporary GOP is engaged in hyperbole.

Do you not pay the slightest attention to what these pusillanimous whores have to say, on a daily basis?

I mean, Jesus jumping up and down on a pogo stick, Palin, Gingrich, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Malkin, Bachmann, forever to eternity, and beyond, it's a very long list of misogynists.

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August 19, 2010 4:39 PM    in reply to FreemanW

Great word! To save others the dictionary look-up: "Showing a lack of courage or determination; timid"

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August 19, 2010 3:26 PM    in reply to Pacific NW Mark

Also, anyone making less than $250K per year. Truly amazing.

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August 19, 2010 11:40 AM   

OK, we need to stop the misinformation campaign. It's not a mosque, it's an Islamic community center akin to the YMCA. Why are we framing the debate using the misinformation from the GOP and the TP'ers?

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August 19, 2010 11:51 AM    in reply to Erika

I don't care if it *were* just a mosque. They still have the right to be there.

That said, there *is* a mosque that still exists, closer to WTC, that was in place even before 9/11.

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August 19, 2010 12:17 PM    in reply to Ron

True - I've been trying to fight this phrasing on a local newspaper, and was sad to see TPM using the same misinformed phrasing. How can we fight the propaganda if we use the propaganda/misinformation as the standard for our protests, instead of the actual facts?

There are two mosques (4 blocks and 8 blocks away) in the area, and they have every right to be there. As does the community center. Any any other type of store, center, theatre (well, not animal-fighting - I do have my limits), and anything else anyone wants to build on private property that's within the local zoning and building codes.

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August 19, 2010 4:08 PM    in reply to Erika

And both of those mosques are operating in very cramped quarters -- at least one of them has had to move from its original location because they lost the lease on the property, and the new location is much smaller than the old.

So there's definitely a need for some prayer space that can be used by Muslims in the area to pray. Note too that there is a ritual washing that they are supposed to perform before praying, so it's important to have sufficient space to accommodate that as well.

And why is it so terrible for them to have recreational facilities at that location? Recreational facilities that would be open to the community at large, which I should think would do much to foster friendship and understanding between Muslim and non-Muslim communities.

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August 19, 2010 11:46 AM   

Brian, did you ask her for examples of why she believes Obama's policies have been more anti-Muslim than Bush's policies? Curious about that...

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August 19, 2010 11:56 AM    in reply to Adrienne

That's a great question, Adrienne. As I read her quote, I stopped short at this, "It's like my son says, he's been more hawkish than Dick Cheney." First, she can't be serious (and neither can her son). But second, is she opposed to Obama's actions in Afghanistan? Why?

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August 19, 2010 5:01 PM    in reply to George C

The reason she said that is because under Obama the drone strikes in Pakistan have increased 10-fold from the level during the Bush administraton, and the "collateral damage" casualties from those strikes have risen accordingly.

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August 19, 2010 12:03 PM    in reply to Adrienne

Remember she's coming with the GOP perspective, so to sell to the rest of us Muslims to vote for her brand, she has to undercut Obama.

I think Obama is not precipitously worse than Bush. No American President killed more Muslims in the world than Bush did. He was indeed a Christian crusader of modern times and I don't care how many times he cyinically called my faith a religion of peace for his own political ends.

Obama is worse in the sense that he's a Democrat and should not have continued Bush's policies of detention, rendition, wiretaps, killing Americans without trials, expanded extra-judicial drone attacks, expanded war in Afghanistan which he cannot win (repeat CAN NOT WIN), stayed silence during israeli bombardment of Gaza and its attack on international aid flotilla, talked about a new beginning with the Islamic world with nothing to show for it, esp. now pressuring Turkey of all states to make up with Israel, after its citizens were killed without redress. Shall I go on?

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August 19, 2010 1:41 PM    in reply to Adrienne

Seeme Hasan was born in Lahore, Pakistan. This Bush supporter did not mind hawkishness directed at innocent Iraq, but now that the Obama administration targets the rogue Taliban areas of her terrorism-supporting, nuclear-exporting nation, which also happens to be Osama Bin Laden's safe-haven, she has suddenly morphed into a dove.

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August 19, 2010 4:22 PM    in reply to AdAbsurdum

Aha. Yes, Obama has been more aggressive in Pakistan than Bush was, but he wouldn't have needed to do that had the Bush people not been so anxious to invade Iraq that the took their eye off the ball in Afghanistan and let bin Laden and his supporters slip over the border.

Pakistan is a tough call. I hate the civilian casualties that our predator drone strategy inflicts; at the same time, though, we can't very well send in ground troops without the cooperation of the Pakistani government, as they are supposed to be our allies. And even if they were inclined to cooperate with that (which I seriously doubt they would be), I'm not sure we'd want to be sending troops into that unforgiving terrain.

Bottom line, I understand why she would be upset at what is happening in Pakistan, but it is unfair to blame the situation entirely on Obama.

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August 19, 2010 4:57 PM    in reply to slb

Ms Hasan seemed to have no problems with the more Cheney-esque foreign policy of hawkishness that excluded as a target the biggest destabilizer from the Persian Gulf to India and N. Korea, her native Pakistan. Were it not for Pakistan's nukes, and its record of "accidentally" sharing its technology with N. Korea and Iran, were it not for the extremists in the Pakistani military who sympathize with the Taliban and direct US foreign aid for Pakistan to the Taliban so that they can fight NATO troops in Afghanistan and continue to destabilize this nation, were it not that these extremists are always on the verge of taking over the regime and the nuclear arsenal of this hair-trigger unstable nation, Obama would probably not care much about the Taliban in Ms. Hasan's nation.

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August 19, 2010 11:48 AM   

They just needed a target for the Atwater acolytes, after all, there is an upcoming election.

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August 19, 2010 11:50 AM   

Influential, you keep on using that word. I do not think that it means what you think that it means.

Seriously, she may bolt. What's it gonna take, a totally pre-conceived attack on her faith?

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August 19, 2010 11:56 AM   

This xenophobia repeats itself over and over and over again in our history, and years later we look back on it in shame and wonder, 'how could those people have been so ridiculous/hateful/ignorant?'

From the Wikipedia entry on anti-German sentiment during WWI:

When the United States entered the war in 1917, some German immigrants, and sometimes even non-German immigrants who were perceived as German (Dutch, Scandinavian, Swiss), were looked upon with suspicion and attacked regarding their loyalty. Some German immigrants in the United States were even tried, convicted and imprisoned, on charges of sedition, merely for refusing to swear allegiance to the United States war effort.

City streets in Chicago with German names were changed, with several noted exceptions being Goethe & Schiller in the Gold Coast neighborhood (which remain the same today).
The city of Berlin, Michigan was renamed Marne, though the Berlin Raceway located there retains the original city name.

In New Orleans, Berlin St. was renamed for General Pershing (head of the American Expeditionary Force), sauerkraut came to be called (by some) "liberty cabbage", German measles became "liberty measles", hamburgers became "liberty sandwiches" and Dachshunds became "liberty pups".

In the United States between 1917–18, German-American schools and newspapers by the thousands were forced to permanently close. In cities and towns across the nation, libraries burned their German-language books in public burnings. The officials of German-named towns that had been founded by German-Americans were intimidated by county, state, and federal government officials into anglicizing their names, and into destroying all traces of their German heritage. In cities across the United States, German-sounding street names were banned. Many families with a German-sounding last name changed their surname. The vast majority of German-Americans, however, were loyal to their adopted country and thousands of them served in the United States military.

Newspapers in New York and other places published lists of inhabitants names and addresses, labeled as Enemy Aliens, thereby inviting neighbors to hostile actions.

As the public atmosphere became increasingly hysterical, vigilantes burned "pro-German" books, spied on neighbors, and attacked and murdered immigrants and radicals. Anti-German tension culminated on April 4, 1918, in the brutal lynching of German immigrant Robert Prager, a coal miner living in Collinsville, Illinois, who was accused of making "disloyal remarks".

WWII - lather, rinse, repeat. The Japanese-Americans were actually put in internment camps, something likely not done to the German-Americans during 'The Great War' because they were of European descent rather than the more exotic and foreign-ish Asian descent.

Will we ever learn?

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August 19, 2010 11:57 AM    in reply to rynato

argh. blockquote fail, TPM.

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August 19, 2010 1:14 PM    in reply to rynato

Yer blockquote is no good here. Same with yer strike. Makes for very uninspired commenting sometimes.

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August 19, 2010 4:29 PM    in reply to rynato

Sometimes it will span paragraphs and sometimes it will not, and I have no idea why that is the case.

The other day, it was messing up the formatting for me for some short lines of text I wanted single-spaced. It insisted on wrapping the lines. I think that is the first time I've ever seen that problem.

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August 19, 2010 4:32 PM    in reply to slb

Hmmm, maybe it has to do with cut-and-pasted text? Because the lines I had trouble with were pasted in from another web page. Somtimes there seem to be hidden formatting tags in web text that no amount of editing will remove.

Try pasting the text in something like Notepad, that doesn't recognize any kind of formatting, and then re-copy it from Notepad into the comment box here. That might fix it.

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August 19, 2010 12:04 PM    in reply to rynato

Nope. There is no hope that we will ever learn. I don't know why we won't learn, but we won't.

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August 19, 2010 2:11 PM    in reply to rynato

Well, doesn't that all to familar with what's happening in the country today.

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August 19, 2010 4:25 PM    in reply to rynato

..German measles became "liberty measles"...

Geez, you'd think they wouldn't have minded leaving the "German" tag on a disease!

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August 19, 2010 11:58 AM   

Apparently, you don't have to bee too smart to be a rich donor to the Republican party. She knows they are acting against her interrests, without so much as a courtesy call before they turned on her, and yet she's still supporting them, and still spouting the Republican propaganda.

Just a rich teabagger; probably one of their funders.

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August 19, 2010 12:01 PM   

If her son says Obama is more hawkish than Cheney it must be so.

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August 19, 2010 12:02 PM   

MAY? MAY? There is no "may" here.

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August 19, 2010 1:03 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

great minds and all ;-)

guess I should have read all comments a little closer before leaving mine below

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August 19, 2010 1:57 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

:) Hilarious!

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August 19, 2010 12:08 PM   

Oh by the way, the Hasan clan, care more about their own social status and the GOP uses them for money and ploy they are not overtly 'anti-Muslim.'

As someone said, its more about the money, not being taxed, etc.

What is she talking about may leave next year? Any self-respecting Muslim, would have bolted the GOP ever since Bush launched his invasion against poor people of Iraq cementing his neocon, pro-Israel policy.

What the heck is she waiting for? It is indeed a two way parasitic relationship.

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August 19, 2010 12:10 PM   

Matt Jones answered the whole question, when he noted that Muslims, just like other rich people, want more money more than anything else. Those, like this woman, who are willing to toss their neighbors under the bus in the process are as despicable or more so than the fundy Repubs. As I post here about once a month, this is probably the worst single legacy of Reagan. Before Reagan the wealthy kept their greed hidden and understood that their greed was not a positive part of their character. But, since Reagan they see nothing wrong with it, and flaunt it. This is also a very major failing of the Christian churches, major enough for me to realize that those institutions are anything but worshipful beyond their worship of money.

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August 19, 2010 1:43 PM    in reply to hoppycalif2

Greed knows no religious boundary.

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August 19, 2010 12:16 PM   

Sounds to me like she has more money than sense - and she's very confused. No one is more "hawkish" than Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rummie.

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August 19, 2010 12:18 PM   

Pick any Republican who disagrees with the anti-Islamic center tirades, and you can bet he or she is worrying about losing Hasan family donations. If it wasn't for the money, the Republicans would be in lock-step opposition to this community center. Last I heard, surveyed Manhattanites were in favor of the center. Who cares what anyone in Podunk, Oklahoma thinks about it?

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August 19, 2010 12:29 PM   

$$$ = god.

Some people have no moral compass.

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August 19, 2010 12:58 PM    in reply to An Outhouse

yep. She's all about the benjamins. Apparently she doesn't understand that you can't have today's GOP without the xenophobia. Muslims are the new gay marriage for right-wingers.

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August 19, 2010 2:48 PM    in reply to rynato

On target.

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August 19, 2010 12:59 PM   

MAY? MAY bolt??

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August 19, 2010 1:12 PM   

Seeme Hasan is a member of a VERY rich family, with money made from their own HMO. They even provided a building for a business school for a branch of the U. of Colorado.

With that kind of money and with that business orientation it's no wonder they became Republicans. Money, when you have enough of it, and low taxes outweigh any other values, including religion, personal safety and cultural values.

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August 19, 2010 1:23 PM    in reply to Dencoff

Screwing over people who pay premiums...shes a rethug alright....you would think with the way barack bent the whole country over so the ins co's could more effectively rape us would make her a dem.

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August 19, 2010 1:13 PM   

Anti-Muslim probably means social liberalism.

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August 19, 2010 1:15 PM   

Sounds like this woman is an idiot. Screw her.

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August 19, 2010 1:17 PM   

Why was she a Republican in the first place?

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August 19, 2010 1:22 PM    in reply to Lestatdelc

Maybe because she cares only about money, and probably thinks that blacks, hispanics, gays, etc. aren't worthy of civil rights. The only reason this woman is now opposing the GOP (in fact, it appears that she's still rationalizing their anti-Muslim hatred), is because it's open season on Muslims. I've come across rich Arabs, Indians, South Americans who think just like this woman does.

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August 19, 2010 1:17 PM   

Jim Breuer was impersonating Joe Pesci on Stern this morning. His brilliant line related to the Mosque:

"They don't like us gettin' along!"

It's not in corporate or defense contractors to have a peaceful citizenry united against them. Who's flogging this Mosque controversy, and who are THEIR masters?

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August 19, 2010 1:18 PM   

Where does she get off excusing GOP candidates for embracing this nonsense? Saying "They have no choice because of Newt and Sarah." Of course they had a choice. Chris Christie didn't embrace it. He waffled and was wishy-washy and tried to bash Democrats and the president in the process, but at least he didn't embrace it.

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August 19, 2010 1:18 PM   

His policies are perhaps more anti-Muslim

WTF? This woman is bat-shit crazy-stupid.

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August 19, 2010 1:25 PM    in reply to Lestatdelc

Yeah, that one really through me for a loop... Insofar as I can tell, his specific body of work hasn't shown that he's anti-muslim by any stretch of imagination... so, i suppose that's all what it is...

The ruse of 'racism' to cover up economic policies.

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August 19, 2010 1:21 PM   

It is embarrasing how poorly Muslims are being treated. So why is it that one religious group can hate and fear another group so badly? It isn't a new phenomenon. The Romans persecuted the Jews. Christians conducted the Crusades.

So the claim that Muslims are out to destroy Christians is just a continuation of a very old story.

Sean Thibodeau at SusPacks nails it.

http://suspiciouspackaging.blogspot.com/2010/08/religious-intolerance-intolerance-of.html

This all comes down to persecution. One religious group persecuting another and if you don't practice a religion, they all persecute you. Ultimately if you are in a religion it is as if you are in a gang and your allegiance is with that gang and its rules. You must join the “gang” or be persecuted. Once you are a member of a religion (the gang) your allegiance is with that gang and its rules. Worse still, when the rules of the gang contradict the rules of the government - like it does here- you are asked to choose the rules of the gang or else.

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August 19, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to simplygeorge

Very good analysis. I agree that much of religion is gang behavior. I also think that such behavior is hard wired in our genes.

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August 19, 2010 2:57 PM    in reply to simplygeorge

That's really perceptive; there are a lot of parallels between gangs and religions; gang warfare and religious strife. Murder, shaking down the general population for loyalty and cash, violent acts over 'getting respect', even gang colors and gang symbols.

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August 19, 2010 10:53 PM    in reply to condew

I see equal similarities to being a dedicated member of a political party.

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August 19, 2010 1:32 PM   

"She says she has only one reason to suspect she'll put a great deal of effort into defeating Barack Obama: His policies are perhaps more anti-Muslim, Hasan says, as Bush's were. "It's like my son says, he's been more hawkish than Dick Cheney.""

If she keeps talking like that she won't have to bolt - she'll get tossed out for not toeing the party line.

"No group is more convinced of the president's Muslim faith than conservative Republicans. The Pew poll found 34% of them say Obama is a Muslim, ..."

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August 19, 2010 1:48 PM   

I'm curious. What is the significance of the E being red while all other letters are black? And are those steps?

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August 19, 2010 3:18 PM    in reply to wadingoh

If the weepy teabagger there is like the rest, that's probably where she had to cover up an "A" or a "U" on the sign after somebody pointed out it was spelled wrong...

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August 19, 2010 6:50 PM    in reply to Matt Jones

"Weepy" -- nice! I love her sad clown look. It says it all.

If only this sad clown were smart and nice and self-aware, she might be happier.

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August 19, 2010 1:53 PM   

20 bucks says she'll be stumping for Republicans in November.

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August 19, 2010 3:00 PM    in reply to Barry Ragin

Nah, just paying for the stump.

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August 19, 2010 1:53 PM   

American conservatism = Christian fascism

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August 19, 2010 4:45 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

Flagging for abuse -- that comment is getting really tiresome.

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August 19, 2010 5:30 PM    in reply to slb

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

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August 19, 2010 2:05 PM   

sleep with dogs, you wake with fleas


"The past few years in the Republican party has been constant humiliation for Muslims," Hasan told TPM in an interview yesterday evening." First they came for the poor and you said nothing. Then they came for single mothers and you said nothing. Then they came for the blacks and you said nothing. Then they came for the gays and you said nothing. Now they come for Muslims ...

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August 19, 2010 2:30 PM   

Have you all heard about that Christian Church that is trying to get the permits to build near the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building? http://bit.ly/bHxNjj

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August 19, 2010 2:41 PM   

Sooner or later these people are going to have to look around the room and see if these are the people they want to be in the same room with. How many times does stuff like this have to happen for people to catch a clue? Whether you are gay, lesbian, black, Hispanic, and now Muslim, the Republican Party seems very hostile to all these peoples existence.

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August 19, 2010 2:42 PM   

Brian,
Left out of this fine article is the fact that this woman & her foundation are responsible for the complete explosion of the GOP guv chances in this state. The Hasan foundation funded the "fellowship" that ended the political career of famed Lawyer-Lobbyist-Plagarist Scott McInnis! Ali, the son, has now run for & lost several gop primaries for various state offices, and considers himself a future GOP star. We think it's comedy gold!

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August 19, 2010 2:50 PM   

Obama more "hawkish than Cheney"? This woman is completely misguided. Futher, these Republicans do have a choice, but if Newt and Palin are the real brains behind the party, then that alone is reason to jump ship.

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August 19, 2010 2:51 PM   

I guess this Republican does not think Obama is a Muslim.

She says she has only one reason to suspect she'll put a great deal of effort into defeating Barack Obama: His policies are perhaps more anti-Muslim, Hasan says, as Bush's were. "It's like my son says, he's been more hawkish than Dick Cheney."

But she supported Dickie.

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August 19, 2010 3:01 PM   

“Hasan says at this point, Republican politicians have little choice but to join the GOP in opposing Cordoba House, and she understands that.”

If she does and chooses to be a party to the slanderous humiliation of Muslims, that’s her choice. I wonder what the Republicans who disparage Muslims but are glad to take her money really think of her?

It just goes to show that having money is no proof of intelligence...

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August 19, 2010 3:03 PM   

I wonder what "Bandar Bush" thinks.

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August 19, 2010 3:41 PM   

"I don't know if I'll be a Republican a year from now," says Seeme Hasan, who chairs the Hasan Family Foundation in Colorado, and has close ties to the Republican party leadership.

This is the guy who handed out $300,000 for "essay-writing" to a Republican who just happened to be a popular former Congressman who just happened to be thinking about a run for higher office in the future. (Governor of Colorado, as it turned out.)

So happy to hear you won't be a Republican. Please don't start calling yourself a Democrat.

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August 19, 2010 3:47 PM   

I really don't know why anyone who isn't a straight white Christian male who was born here (as were his parents and grandparents) could be a Republican anymore. I mean, those guys hate the rest of us--why should we support them?

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August 19, 2010 4:00 PM   

Dear Ms. Hasan: This is nothing; the GOoPers are just getting started. Remember when Michelle Malkin called for internment of Muslims in the aftermath of 9/11? Did the GOoPers renounce her position? They like your money but they don't like your kind. Wake up and smell the coffee.

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August 19, 2010 4:15 PM    in reply to windowpane

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Don't you mean pork?

Wake up and smell the pork.

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August 19, 2010 4:11 PM   

This woman is a Tea Party Republican????? Does she understand the contempt in which she is held?

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August 19, 2010 4:28 PM   

this is the beginning of a cultural war as has been going on in Europe for years. And the first shot was fired in Disneyland. Oh, american...
Muslim Employee: Disney Banned Her Head Scarf
A Muslim woman who works as a hostess at a Disneyland restaurant alleged the theme park would not allow her to wear her hijab in front of customers. Disney says the scarf was not a part of her costume and the decision was not discriminatory. http://www.newslook.com/videos/242792-muslim-employee-disney-banned-her-head-scarf?autoplay=true

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August 19, 2010 4:45 PM   

The Republicans have no choice. That has to be the all-too-sad-but-true statement of the decade.

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August 19, 2010 5:15 PM   

There should be no consideration in leaving the GOP. Ever since Bush left(and yes, I do give him credit for keeping "teh crazee" in check), the right has looked for anything to demonize to divide America even more than what it is right now. Gay marriage, abortion, immigration, the "New Black Panther Party," muslim bigotry; you name it, the right has done it.

The thing about the right is that they're trying to defy conventional political thinking. Usually when a party suffers the loses that they have, they go into the wilderness for a couple years and re-organize the tenets of their party. The Dems have done this, and the Conservatives also did it in the UK(even though it wasn't as effective as they hoped it would be). Hopefully after the election, the right will do what they should have done after the 08 elections.

They could have locked up both the Hispanic and Arab vote, but they rely on fear, racism and xenophobia, which America is slowly moving away from. In essesnce, the GOP are trying to fix a computer with a wrench and hammer, and they refuse to concede that the politics of the "Southern Strategy" no longer apply to the general electorate. Oh well, I'm enjoying the massacre, so hopefully they don't catch on too quickly.

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August 19, 2010 6:29 PM   

I had to read the last few sentences of this article several times I was sure my eyes were deceiving me -
She thinks President Obama's policies are "more anti-Muslim than Bush" and "...he's been more hawkish than Dick Cheney."
WTF???
You know what, I feel ZERO sympathy for this woman, what she's getting from the Republicans is exactly what she deserves! Why in the hell would a gay person, anybody of color and certainly a Muslim hitch their wagon to that group is beyond my comprehension. She thought she could run with them because of her money, well how's that working out for you sister girl? They took your money and STILL spit in your face!
I’m still staggering over the Obama/Cheney comparison – I've been listening and I haven't heard one of her "on a first name basis" Republican pals in DC speak out in support of this issue but I darn sure heard President Obama do it! This woman has some serious issues and being a Republican is just the half of it. Oh brother!


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August 19, 2010 7:27 PM    in reply to WorldBFree

Don't be surprised this type of behavior is quite common. Have you seen the head of the RNC?

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August 19, 2010 7:27 PM   

As eschaton says, at some point the political USA must stop living in October 2001.

It's been nearly 9 years. When will we put that behind us?

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August 19, 2010 8:49 PM   

Why is he over there in the first place?
The Republicans are clearly showing us what their agenda is
going to be. Anti-everybody. Pro southern-white-trash.

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August 19, 2010 9:19 PM   

The day she leaves they'll call her a terrorist & swear that they have proof that she funds Al Queda.
She's really got no good choice.

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August 19, 2010 9:53 PM   

As far as I'm concerned, she's not welcome in the Democratic party, either. The Republican politicians *DO* have a choice -- they can rebuke Gingrich and Palin. It's easy to do that. Hell, they can get together and rebuke them. They can rebuke the country for its bigotry. They can "refudiate" the opposition, just like Obama did. And if Hasan is against this, she belongs squarely in the Party of No, which she has supported until now.

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August 20, 2010 1:37 AM   

Well Done Hasan!
Remember Muslims all over the World are watching these developments.American leadership is getting exposed.The place is not a Mosque its a Community center.By the way since 9/11 Muslims have been pushed back every at every walk of life.

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August 20, 2010 1:54 AM   

Muslim Republicans. Reminds me of the Dave Chapelle skit where he plays a blind man who joins the Klan, because he didn't know he was black.

Man, a delay in them realizing Republicans hate them would be great. They should attend a teabagger rally and get pelted with tomatoes first.

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While I have not read all the 500+ comments, a couple of points seem to be missed by many here. First, it is NOT a mosque that is being built at the Cordoba Project, it is a community center of which a small section is set aside as a mosque. It includes an auditorium, public meeting rooms, a swimming pool/sports complex for a community that is predominantly Islamic within a few blocks of Ground Zero. Not unlike community centers around the city that are Jewish, Christian, and Buddhist. Second, our Constitution supports the free practice of religion and this project, as was pointed out by the President, is in keeping with that fact. Third, and now pay attention, the actions of the GOP in vilifying certain groups of people, especially Muslims, is in keeping with the political agenda of unification that was seen in the 1930s in Germany - in a divided country, create a common enemy and then continue to use them as objects of fear and hatred. The GOP and the rest of their followers have demonized the Muslims, the gays, the Hispanics, and the poor so that they have created a common enemy for their WASP party. This is the far greater danger today - the Cordoba Community Center is just a symbol of it. But as TPM is pointing out today, this poison has spread across the nation and it is becoming the match for a very explosive situation. We must embrace our constitutional beliefs and allow for the building of these mosques and community centers, and stop allowing the tactics of a disgraced regime find new ground in which to grow and spread their poison once again, just under a new name masquerading as the GOP.

We are a nation that was built on the premise that every person should have the right to practice their faith as they see fit, and we were not conceived as a Christian nation for that reason. If we allow hatemongers and racists to use fear and ignorance to deprive us of that basic right, then we have no right to demand it for others or to call ourselves Americans. We must practice what our young people are dying to protect - freedom of religion, speech, and assembly. If we do not, then we are no better than Hitler or Stalin or Mao.

When we condemn an entire religion for the actions of 19 men and their handful of leaders, we are acting irrationally and out of fear and ignorance. It is time to stop doing this and time to start thinking once again about why being a free nation we can practice the religion of our choice, or not practice one at all. We must embrace our Bill of Rights and give them meaning, not just make them empty words on an old piece of paper as the GOP and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did and continue to do. We show that we can practice forgiveness and freedom by letting this community center be built. We show that we are not afraid of our neighbors and their beliefs, and that we do not hold those citizens who lived in the shadow of that horrible day and probably lost loved ones as well as being less than any other citizen just because of their religious beliefs. We show that we are all Americans, and that we stand together despite our differing religion to hold "these truths to be self evident, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness". These words were not written by a Christian, but by a Deist - Thomas Jefferson. Can we do less than honor them by allowing citizens of this nation to practice their religion and develop their community center in peace?

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