Palin In February: We'd Be 'Appalled' If Public Figure Used "N-Word"

This is a trip. What does Dr. Laura think of Sarah Palin?

I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain? I realize his advisors probably didn’t want a “mature” woman, as the Democrats keep harping on his age. But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

I am haunted by the family pictures of the Palins during political photo-ops, showing the eldest daughter, now pregnant with her own child, cuddling the family’s newborn. When Mom and Dad both work full-time (no matter how many folks get involved with the children), it becomes a somewhat chaotic situation. Certainly, if a child becomes ill and is rushed to the hospital, and you’re on the hotline with both Israel and Iran as nuclear tempers are flaring, where’s your attention going to be? Where should your attention be? Well, once you put your hand on the Bible and make that oath, your attention has to be with the government of the United States of America.,

You know what was worse than the N-word? Finishing it off by telling the caller not to marry outside her race. That revealed far more about her racist agenda. That Palin defends that simply demonstrates that she is equal parts evil & stupid.

But, but, but that was february. It is now august.

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Forget that she feels like she can't use that word, why would Dr. Laura WANT to?

I'd not given "Dr." Laura a thought since those nekkid photos of her were circulating on the web. That was a while ago.

How does she feel about the word CUNT? Someone, please, find out by using it on her.

What can you say? That woman's F*ucking retarded.

Waiting for Rush to weigh in.

After that, maybe we can have Palin debate, say, Snooki on the dimensions of the vast liberal-media conspiracy.

Since when did Palin become The Fonz?

She looks like Andrew Dice Clay in that photo.

The vote was unanimous

Sarah, the bag just called; all of the hammers want you out.

NOW!

If you really support Dr. Laura, then SAY IT, Sarah. Say the word Sarah. I dare you Sarah. Say it 11 times! Say the word Sissy Grizzly. Say it! Say it!

Har har har. Sarah say Muslims should be sensitive to others. But Dr. Laura? Not so much. Har har har.

Well, you know how the color BLACK is the color of evil and the devil. I kinda assume that BLACK LEATHER is especially evil and devilish?
Are there any experts that can weigh in on this issue?
I mean, per Dr. Laura, certainly Sarah Palin is either the Evil Devil..or she wouldn't wear all this Black clothing? Right?
Especially nothing 'pig' related, nor would she blend two different kinds of fabric, right????
I mean, no nylon/cotton....CERTAINLY no BLACK LEATHER and LACE or something like that. Right?
I mean, if Sarah Palin DOES wear these combinations...well, we'd have to gather our stones, right??

Does everyone else remember Sarah defending Helen Thomas a couple months ago? You know, that everyone condemning Helen's racist rant was just trying to strip her of her First Amendment rights? Yeah, about that...

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Here's the deal for Dr. Laura and Dr. Sarah: your ability to use a special code word that is racially sensitive and kinda hurtful depends on your race and your sensibilities. This applies to all goofy, cruel, and/or insensitive racial slurs.

1. If you're a member of the infringed group, and you want to use the offending word, well, it's your call. Please don't do it around a member of any other racial group, because it confuses them; so use your judgment. I'd suggest you don't do it around white people, period, because they seem to be the easiest to confuse, but that's only a personal observation, and I cant get away with it because I'm white.

2. If you're not in the club, and you use their special code word, especially in an abusive way, you're an idiot. It's a 15-yard penalty for unnecessary race-baiting, and loss of down. Depending on who takes affront, or how loud your megaphone was when you said the stupid word, you could suffer even more. You will be in the wrong, and thus cannot whine about where your big mouth has put you.

Note that this applies to white people using the word 'cracker' as well as African-Americans using the n-word. It applies to the terms gook, chink, chicom, wetback, spic, faggot, and several others that will probably never pass from our vocabulary of hate. On the other hand, if you're over about six feet in height, already have several impressive scars, have served time above the county level, and habitually practice your second amendment rights, you may get an exemption -- but you can be trumped by someone bigger, meaner, or better armed.

So to sum up, I can call Sarah Palin a dumb cracker without incurring a penalty. I have a neighbor who can call her a dumb n***, but he probably won't, because it stretches the definition. And he can't use the term 'cracker,' either. So we should all just call her a dumb bitch and nobody's feelings are hurt. My dog Ginger will be upset, but with one dog treat she'll get over it.

For those of you who may ask why I keep repeating the same thing.

American Conservatism = Christian Fascism (please look up the difference between deductive, inductive and abductive reasoning for people who think I am saying all Christians are fascist)

Then may I ask you why do you feel the need to comment differently when every article on TPM is denoting the same thing? It all boils down to the same thing and that is how the christian fascist are holding this country back. Everyday we see stories about how the military-industrial complex is out of control (Oil spills, CIA screw ups, Overspending on the military, government contracting , Citizen United, Isreal’s human rights violations etc). The people who have been enabling this and preventing things from getting better We can call them cute names like right wing bigots, teabaggers, the teahidist, the tea-la-ban, rethuglicans, etc. Whatever you want to call it, what we are witnessing is classic fascism (please look it up if you are not sure what that means). Religion is just a proxy, in this case Christianity.

Other people to include prominent theologians have been aware of this trend and have been writing on this subject since the days of Nixon.

Lately it seems that it is open season on the Constitution and our founding principles, bigotry and hatred are becoming mainstream again. While the media sits there and stokes the fire waiting for the house to burn. Sarah Palin should be publicly admonished by all in the media for supporting Dr. Laura. But no she doesn't get the Shirley Sherrod treatment and her name doesn't get ran through the mud. She is for some still considered a voice that needs to be heard by the American media. She is nothing more than a Christian-fascist cheerleader.

So again I ask you why do you feel the need to say something different when every other article on TPM is just more evidence of the exact same thing?

This election is about expected recovery time from the Bush 2007-08 crash which eliminated 500,000 jobs per month, versus the ethnic wedge & fearmongering politics of the far right.

You might vote GOP if you think Obama should have fixed it all by now. You might vote against GOP, because of the Big Hate vibe and 0 new ideas.

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War over! War over! Ugg invite Sarah and Laura to join him in cave for celebrate great victory in Iraq! Combat over! Please make care to avoid fall far cliffs. Sorry, not time for make map. Party start after dark. Good luck. Har har har.

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dare you, sarah, if it's really ok then say it. say it. c'mon. put your money where your mouth is.

Want to know real problem? Even caveman know. It's sad but simple. Who wants to know?

I wonder if Dr. Laura (the adulterer) would understand the 'black guys calling each other nigger' shtik better if a non-Jew (i.e., goyim) called her a "Jew".

Perhaps then she might begin to understand the metaphor about people of the same 'stripe' referring to each other by what 'outsiders' might consider derogatory terms!

I'm a black man if I get angry at my white friend and call him a cracker, white trash, redneck, or any other derisive slurs he has the right to be very offended. It doesn't matter if I heard him and other whites use it against each other.

And this leads me to the larger point, the white people that follow her Sarah-half-term governor-full-time attention whore-Palin. Only see the above example as offensive. They have no interest in looking outside of their own small life experience to see how Dr Laura's rant could be offensive, nor do they care.

The only thing we can do is mock, rebuke, and marginalize these fools because they are too tribal and caught in their zero-sum race war to see reason.

Sarah Palin is a f***ing retard.

Did I miss something here? Did the government force Dr. Laura off the air? If not, how have her 1st Amendment rights been violated? The 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee that you won't have to suffer the consequences of spouting vile stupidity!

Whites using the "N" word isn't just offensive, it is blatantly racist. Nevermind blacks using it among themselves - in that context it's not about power & superiority but rather brotherhood & sisterhood. It's not an insult but rather (in most cases) a term of endearment.

And it's not "nigger." It's "niggah" or "my nig." The different inflection isn't an accident.

When a white person uses nigger it is INTENDED as an insult. It is MORE than "just a word" it calls up 400 years of brutal racist history, reverberating with slavery, forced separation of children from parents and siblings because chattels don't have families, lynchings, Jim Crow segregation, employment opportunities confined to the lowest rungs of the social ladder, an entire culture where everywhere you look (at least until the last few decades) there are zero positive role models for people who look like you (generic you) - it calls up searing pain that remains just below the surface since, despite the perceptions of whites who, never having been at the receiving end of ongoing but much more subtle racism, cannot see it because they've never FELT it.

As much as I dislike Dr. Laura, I, too, don't have a huge problem with her advice to the woman with the autistic child. She is right: there is nothing wrong with taking a little time off, leaving the kid with a skilled caretaker, and having a day or two of a semblance of normal life.

She is right, also, to try to help the woman take the overwhelming sense of guilt she has off her shoulders. She is right, not every problem is fixable, and the option of placement isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on the quality of care to be received.

SOME mentally challenged children DO BETTER with the structure an institution provides, so that the time the family spends with the child during visits is much more enjoyable all the way around. She is right, the "normal" children are being deprived when the autistic child becomes the center of family life. While some sibling sacrifice is not a bad thing, too much sacrifice can create severe mental health problems for the "normal" kids.

Nonetheless, there is supreme irony in Palin's defense of Dr. Laura, given that Palin would most likely find major fault with her advice to this woman.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Palin and the good Doctor don't understand the difference between a situation where a woman is the only Black person in a gathering of numerous whites who all think it is cool tossing around the N word for laughs and a Black Comedian using the word during a comedy routine in front of a mixed race audience.

Palin can't even fill the smaller Moran theater with enough Morans....

Saw a clip of Schlessinger last night where she was bemoaning the loss of her 1st Amendment rights. Two points:
1. She clearly doesn't understand the Constitution (nothing new there) as she has the right to speak her mind but not to be immune from the non governmental consequences of that speech.

2. She is attempting to make herself the victim the deflect attention from her idiocy. This is more and more a typical rightwing ploy after another bout of verbal diarrhea.

This attention craving narcissist has gone off on a real bender this time. Throwing herself into such a controversy and defending the use of the "N" word? What gives? It's crazy, but she's hurting from not being the center of attention, slipping in the polls, and must be feeling the need to up the ante a bit in order to get people's attention. And it's only going to get worse.

To ‘doctor’ Laura’s point: What if Hillary had been elected president instead of Barack? Would it then be okay for all men to use all the awful derogatory words out there for women? Wouldn’t that be the same point she was making? I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet, or maybe they have and I just missed it.

What is Palin WEARING in that picture, her dominatrix outfit?

it's true that dr. laura didn't direct the epithet at anyone in particular and she was only making a point that others have made before. it's still offensive, but i was more appalled at her treatment of the caller than the use of the word. she basically said the woman was oversensitive when she was in fact dealing with what must be an uncomfortable and possibly tricky family situation. it struck me as amazingly crass behavior for someone is supposedly a mental health care professional.
palin's inability to obtain some sort of objective detachment from incidents like this is just more evidence of a fevered ego at the wheel behind those designer specs. it's times like these i wish bill hicks was still with us.

Palin & Schlessinger = one quitter propping up another.

The Palins are stoned cold grifters and Palin herself is a total RETARD. Don't worry everyone, Dr. Schlessinger will be a commentator on Faux Noise soon and she and Palin can duke it out at that time.

As someone on NPR pointed out this morning, Laura's words are akin to an African-American telling Jeff Foxworthy "you might be a redneck" jokes.

The basic principle at work here is, "I can criticize my family. You can't."

The distinction - some of the people Rahm called retarded are white. Dr. Laura only wants to insult black people. Perfect Grizzly logic - duh.

I have to disagree with many of you.

I despise Laura S., as I despise few people. She uses the "doctor" title as justification for issuing moral pronouncements that many of us find utterly reprehensible. Indeed, her pronouncements are morally questionable MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. She's awful.

Moreover, she should not have spoken as she did, because doing so caused enormous offense to many people, a reaction that was entirely predictable.

But all that being so, there is still an important distinction between USING a word and merely MENTIONING it, and this distinction has moral significance.

For example, quoting is merely mentioning. Indeed, even the common, widely-accepted expression, "the n-word" is really just a more polite way of mentioning, rather than using the word. (As some comedian noted, you still wind up saying it in your head.)

Laura mentioned the word. She did not use it, not in the quoted remarks, anyway. Interestingly, the article we are discussing ALSO mentioned it, when it quoted Laura! Did you feel outraged or even offended by that? If not, it is hard to see why you're offended by one utterance and not the other. I think you would be hard pressed to find a morally significant difference between the two cases. (It is implausible that its being spoken or being a quotation could make such a difference, for example. Perhaps the real differences is that people, for no good reason, DO get more offended by someone saying it than by a newspaper reporting it, even word for word.)

While I think the moral significance of her utterance is more complicated than has been acknowledged, we might well object to her message. Laura is doing what she and many others--often on her wacko end of the political spectrum--so frequently do. She's overlooking or mocking subtleties that make a big moral difference, on the assumption that people are not interested in them, or simply can't grasp them.

In this case there is a difference between a subset of a given group trying to reclaim a word that has been (and still is) used to hurt and belittle members of that group and an outsider using (and perhaps even mentioning) the very same word. What has hurt and belittled is (typically) NOT utterance of that word by members of the group to which it has been applied, but use of the word by outsiders, members of the more privileged and powerful group. You do not have to be a genius to see this distinction, you just have to have a little moral sensitivity.

Sadly, however, I suspect that this kind of oversimplifying is exactly what is going on here, although I do not think it is intentional. It is easy to confuse well-earned contempt for the message or the messenger with a less clearly warranted or less serious objection to her utterance of that horrible word.

For those of you that don't think Palin is a racist, just remember back during the campaign when it was revealed that Palin was at an Alaskan diner with about six others and was overheard saying "“So Sambo beat the bitch!” speaking of Obama and Hillary. I rest my case. That stupid retarded woman is a racist grifter nothing else.