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Tea Party Nation Asks: Has An Illegal Immigrant Taken Advantage Of You?


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Tea Party Nation is asking its membership to tell the "true story about illegal immigration" and any abuses they've seen. In a new posting to members that is likely to make pro-immigration reform advocates cringe, Tea Party Nation asks about "The Horrors of Illegal Immigration."

They don't mean how illegal immigrants have been taken advantage of. Here's the pitch, in a message talking about President Obama's "regime" and the media's desire for amnesty:

If have been the victim of a crime by an illegal, or if your business has gone under because your competition uses illegals, or if you have lost your job to illegals, we want to know about it.

If you have photos and videos of illegals or their supporters doing outrageous things (like burning the American flag or putting the Mexican flag above ours, or showing racist posters), please share those as well. We need to get the true story out about illegal immigration and we need your help to do it.

They set up a forum on their Web site, where tea party fans approved as members also can contribute.

It seems a counter-effort to what Tea Party Nation organizers call "stories about illegals who are just here 'to make a better life' for themselves. One example might be the recent ABC News series on "Illegal immigration in America," which put a real face on illegal immigrants and their struggle.

"The media is ignoring stories of the horrors if illegal immigration," Tea Party Nation organizers wrote. "We must stop illegal immigration. The future of our country, for our children and our grandchildren, depends on it."

As a member of Tea Party Nation, TPM scanned the stories on the forum. Here are two examples:


I have a friend whose nephew was stabbedin the heart and died because he insisted a drunken illegal move his car out of a driveway where it was parked illegally. The attack came without warning, and the victim was UNarmed. Welcome to America
where far too often we've become prey for these predators.


I have worked construction all my life, and now they are building an apartment building down the street from, and where as I used to be able to walk on a site and procure a job, this site is over run with mexican laborers doing the jobs that I used to do. They speak spanish, and they are most likely Illegals. . .
   Send them packing, I will work the fields if I have to. Any work is good work!

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August 4, 2010 10:08 AM   

Have you made up a story based on bigoted stereotypes? Post it here, and it will be instantly transmogrified into immutable truth and will become a telling anecdote that captures the way Scary Brown People are encroaching on all that Hard Working Americans have built without any government help whatsoever and the way racist, usurping, tyrannical Obama regime has put Real America under a state of siege.

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August 4, 2010 10:27 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Word.

Someone will begin generating fictional accounts of such encounters, send them out to their rightwing list serve, and then suddenly yet another urban legend will become part of the Great Conservative Mythology.

"Build the fence! Otherwise, you might end up in a bathtub full of ice cubes with your kidneys removed!"

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August 4, 2010 2:07 PM    in reply to castanea

Ooh, can I play?

This illegal Messican guy Paco ran off with my wife and knocked up my girlfriend.

/how's that?

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August 4, 2010 10:28 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Exactly. I almost LOLed at the "stabbed in the heart" routine. Because, as we all know, no Real American would ever get all liquored up and stab somebody over a trivial dispute, amirite?

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August 4, 2010 10:40 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

This one time, an illegal immigrant beheaded me!

...I got better...

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August 4, 2010 12:57 PM    in reply to rynato

That's because for a teabagger, there are no vital organs in the head

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August 4, 2010 2:32 PM    in reply to rynato

Way to channel your inner Monty. She's a WITCH!!

"She turned me into a newt!...I got bettah..."

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August 4, 2010 10:45 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

..."without any government help," and without a century of African slave help, either.

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August 4, 2010 11:44 AM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Tea Party Diaries: This one time I was riding a bus while carrying a lot of packages and this illegal alien (well he was brown so I can only assume he was an illegal) helped me get the packages on the bus like a normal person would and he didn't try to rob me or run off with any of my stuff. It was weird. I tried to give him a dollar and he wouldn't take it. I wish he had it would have made me feel better.

The Tea Party is an incoherent grab bag of hate and resentment born of economic frustration. They hate government spending except what the government spends on them.

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August 4, 2010 1:27 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

You said it all. Great post.

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August 4, 2010 2:59 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Have you made up a story based on bigoted stereotypes?

Apparently Laura Ingraham managed to get a New York Times Bestseller out of one.

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August 4, 2010 10:13 AM   

Well, one thing that seems to be pretty much guaranteed, not to many latinos will be voting republican. Unabashed racism.

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August 4, 2010 10:15 AM   

As for the clown that claimed he would work in the fields? They would be more than happy accommodate his life goals:

http://www.takeourjobs.org/

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August 4, 2010 10:31 AM    in reply to NotesFromME

Ha. That's great. Bookmarking that, possibly sending it to people.

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August 4, 2010 10:19 AM   

Just don't ask for stories from among the GOP, Democrats, and everyone else about who has exploited the low cost of immigrant labor in order to clean their homes, mow their lawns, etc. Not sure data storage capacities are large enough for that.

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August 4, 2010 10:25 AM   

they tirrrkk errrr JERRRBBSS!! :)

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August 4, 2010 10:47 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

...they made us participate in gay orgies!

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August 4, 2010 10:51 AM    in reply to mcjam

You poor soul. Please show us on the doll where those illegal immigrants touched you.

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August 4, 2010 11:58 AM    in reply to a4638809

Eva Mendes just had sex with me. I feel so violated.....

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August 4, 2010 10:29 AM   

This one time some illegal aliens in a flying saucer kidnapped me and subjected me to painful and humiliating experiments/probing, after which they took my job and ran over my dog (they had a special purpose earth vehicle for this).

I'm pretty sure they were Mexican, because of the beady eyes and the fact that they didn't talk American.

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August 4, 2010 10:31 AM   

In July 2004, a rancher near San Antonio, Texas, killed a hairless dog-like creature, which was attacking his livestock. In this attack, eight sheep were discovered dead, each with three puncture wounds in the chest area and completely drained of blood. This vicious animal, initially given the name the Elmendorf Beast, was later determined by DNA assay conducted at University of California to be an illegal fence jumper known by the name Chupa Cabro. True story.

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August 4, 2010 10:32 AM   

I really really wanted that manual labor job picking peaches. It paid two dollars an hour!!!

But noooooo, the rich white man gave it to a brown man who couldn't speak English. He must have been illegal.

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August 4, 2010 10:35 AM   

Once, I knew this guy whose sister had a boyfriend and his brother worked at Dunkin' Donuts. And like, he said one time this real shiny Ford Taurus packed full of these pasty white people pulled up to the drive through window and ordered some coffee and a dozen doughnuts. And when they spoke, they sort of had a funny accent and ended every sentence with "aye".

And like when they went to pay, they gave the dude some weird looking money with some bitch wearing a crown and a beaver on the back. He just knew they were illegals. Maybe from Vermont or Canada. Yeah... man that was close. He thought they were going to jack him right there.

Take back our country!! Put a fence in the ocean to keep them Canadians out.

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August 4, 2010 12:25 PM    in reply to tinsk

And when they spoke, they sort of had a funny accent and ended every sentence with "aye".

They sound more like pirates. SECURE THE PORTS! PROTECT AMERICA FROM MARAUDING, ILLEGAL SWASHBUCKLERS WHO ARE TAKING OUR JOBS AND STEALING OUR WOMEN!!!!

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August 4, 2010 2:10 PM    in reply to tinsk

Tim Horton's donuts are better, eh.

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August 4, 2010 2:39 PM    in reply to Steaming Pile

Seriously? I agree. Tim Horton's iced coffee on my desk right now. Feerener based... locally owned.

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August 4, 2010 10:37 AM   

I was in a Mexican restaurant once and the server spilled a plate of food on me.

I don't know whether the guy was legal or illegal. But I know he was Hispanic.

Does that count? Hey. I felt abused!

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August 4, 2010 10:44 AM   

My ancestors hunted in upstate New York / Canada until illegal immigrants from Europe came on boats and started building cities. Damn Mayflower took my jerb...

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August 4, 2010 10:50 AM    in reply to ano33

DEY TURK YUR JERB!!!!

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August 4, 2010 2:12 PM    in reply to ano33

Some huckster Dutchmen offered them a box full of junk jewelery for the best piece of real estate on the coast.

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August 4, 2010 10:44 AM   

My gardener once said he'd be at my house by 9 AM and didn't show up until 10:30. That was like a crime!

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August 4, 2010 10:44 AM   

To the construction worker dude:

1. 10 points for knowing that every Latino/a is CLEARLY a Mexican.
2. Here's a thought. If you're so keen to "work the fields", why do you go and try that out.

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August 4, 2010 10:47 AM   

Something tells me this should be the other way around. Tell a story about when you or a friend abused an immigrant. Maybe they would run out of disk storage space.

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August 4, 2010 10:47 AM   

I was at a gas station and the person behind the counter was a Latino and they over charged me by a penny! Does that count?

Man the Tea Party's stupidity knows no bounds.

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August 4, 2010 2:13 PM    in reply to brothejr

And spilled gas on my Tahoe.

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August 4, 2010 10:51 AM   

This is perfect for teabaggers. Every teabagger-LouDobbs fan who has a 32 year old son still hanging out all day at the parents home, eating Cheetos, is just 100percent sure it's 'cause them "illegals is takin all the jawbs!"

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August 4, 2010 10:53 AM   

I love when tea baggers say that their message of "illegal immigration" is not racist. And yet, the single largest group of illegals in New York City are Irish.

Odd, but I don't hear the tea baggers complaining about the neighborhoods in Queens where the Irish flag flies OVER EVERYTHING...

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August 4, 2010 11:50 AM    in reply to georgecs

This one time? I was at a pizza place that had an Italian flag hanging behind the counter, and Italian flags on the pizza boxes, and they didn't have an American flag AT ALL! Who will stop this delicious pizza-delivering scourge?

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August 4, 2010 10:55 AM   

Oh wait...I have a story!!! My wingnut sister, who lives in Arizona, and is totally anti-immigrant and anti-"Mexican", always proposes hiring a "cheap illegal" whenever she or the family need some major cleanup or land-clearing or moving done. SEE HOW ILLEGALS HAVE INVADED HER BRAIN!!!

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August 4, 2010 10:55 AM   

For a group that imagines themselves to be manly man Real Americans of frontier stock, they sure do bitch and moan a lot.

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August 4, 2010 10:56 AM   

The busboy at the Pollo Loco refused to bring me more chips 'n' salsa. AND I heard people speakin' Spanish in teh kitchen. Also.

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August 4, 2010 10:58 AM   

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 04 Aug 2010 at 02:54:32 PM GMT is:
$ 1 3 , 3 0 3 , 8 6 3 , 2 8 5 , 6 8 9 . 9 9

The estimated population of the United States is 308,865,534
so each citizen's share of this debt is $43,073.32.

Wow! And, still no jobs.

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August 4, 2010 11:04 AM    in reply to Silence

OK, you've mastered the complete non sequitur. Now what?

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August 4, 2010 11:05 AM    in reply to Early Out

Now we blame the aliens.

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August 4, 2010 11:08 AM    in reply to Silence

Oh, and if you make all the illegal immigrants citizens, your share of the national debt will go down. Sounds like a plan, to me!

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August 4, 2010 11:09 AM   

"Seal the Borders. Stop the Invasion"...I swear to God, when I was a kid I read a horrifying book about the rise of Hitler in Germany. I sincerely asked my Mom "how could people in a country let a guy like this come to power?". She assured me that it probably would never happen again. But now I see how completely batshit crazy, fearful, and hateful people can be! Good Lord!!!

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August 4, 2010 11:16 AM    in reply to seahawk

Did you happen to read the part about hyper-inflation?

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August 4, 2010 11:40 AM    in reply to Silence

You mean the hyper-inflation in the early 20s that had nothing to do with Hitler's rise to power in 1933?

Or do you mean the imaginary hyperinflation that you deranged Beck-worshiping teanuts are always yammering on an on about despite the fact that yields on U.S. treasury bonds are at a near historic low and that the markets are actually currently betting on deflation--which would be even more damaging to the economy than the inflation that has you goldbug imbeciles buying overpriced hunks of metal and generally shivering under your sheets?

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August 4, 2010 1:20 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

And, how do you suppose the Fed will attempt to remedy deflation?

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August 4, 2010 2:04 PM    in reply to Silence

By throwing every brown person in the U.S. into a boiling pot of oil.

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August 4, 2010 11:12 AM   

I'll admit I've been taken advantage of by illegal immigrants on several occasions. For instance, I eat at a Mexican restaurant once a week and my favorite waitress (who I happen to know is in this country illegally) is so nice to us and provides such great service that we nearly always over-tip her. Very clever, these illegal immigrants: work hard and treat people like family and they'll give you a nice tip. One time she went back to Mexico to see her family, and when she returned she brought back a present for my wife and me. Think I didn't notice? Oh no, I'm on to her blatant routine. She even teaches me Spanish (for free, of course) in an attempt to "assimilate" me into her illegal immigrant culture. So yeah, it happens. Believe me, it happens.

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August 4, 2010 12:31 PM    in reply to hrebendorf

It's all part of their plan. They want you to think they're all harmless, by working hard, being nice to you, doing the shit work you don't want to do for low wages, all so they can disguise the fact that they're taking over American territory, inch by inch. AZTLAN!!! RECONQUISTA!!!!

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August 4, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to commie atheist

And once they've taken over, they'll send us all back to Ireland and Sweden and Norway and wherever the hell else we came from.

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August 4, 2010 11:15 AM   

If so you are a fool. You had the opportunity to be a lot better educated than any illegal alien. You should be ashamed of yourself. At least keep quiet about it so folks don't find out what a fool you are.

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August 4, 2010 11:16 AM   

My finger is sore from have to "Press 1 for English" all the time!

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August 4, 2010 12:24 PM    in reply to Woodrowfan

"My finger is sore from have to "Press 1 for English" all the time!"

Based solely on the unintelligible grammatical car wreck you call writing, I'd say you need to press it a few thousand more times.

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August 4, 2010 12:47 PM    in reply to Woodrowfan

Sorry, I just realized you may have been being snarky....

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August 4, 2010 1:20 PM    in reply to georgecs

um, yes I was being snarky....

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August 4, 2010 11:18 AM   

Both my cousin in New Jersey and my step-brother in North Carolina have run into financial problems because of illegal immigrants, or at least because of competition that could outbid them because they used illegal workers. My cousin gave up his residential concrete business because he couldn't compete paying his people on-the-books reasonable wages against people who hired illegal day laborers. My step-brother is still building houses in North Carolina, but again, he's having problems competing against people who pay illegals half of what he pays his guys.

On the other hand, at a restaurant where my wife used to work, they finally ended up hiring an illegal immigrant as a potwasher because they couldn't find anyone else to do it, even at $10/hr.

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August 4, 2010 12:20 PM    in reply to Cliff Hendroval

To fully understand the dilemma you discuss, you need to extrapolate the scenario out one more level.

Your cousin's and your step brother's problem is the fact that many of the very same people complaining about illegal aliens are the ones unwilling to pay a fair price for a house (or any product for that matter) that is built by American labor.

The reality is that a home construction can't be outsourced to China. So the cheap labor comes to it. You can blame the contractors who hire the illegals, but equal blame must go to those buying the house and demanding more house for lower and lower pricing.

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August 4, 2010 12:33 PM    in reply to tinsk

Very true. I ask any contractors I use if their workers are all certified to work in the U.S., then I ask for an estimate. I'd rather pay more to get the work done legally.

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August 4, 2010 12:58 PM    in reply to Cliff Hendroval

Well done sir. There is nothing wrong with seeking the best price for comparable quality and supporting an American job. There is everything wrong with exploiting cheap prices of illegal labor and products produced in no wage foreign labor markets and THEN complain about the national unemployment rate and illegal immigration.

Consider this. A person does not have to even "buy American". Anybody going to a Toyota, Nissan, Honda, BMW, Mercedes, Subaru dealer to buy a car should ask this one question. Where was the car made? Don't be afraid to say I want this car, but I will only buy it IF you find me one that was made in the US. No compromise.

If you must buy a Toyota for example, buying a Toyota that was built in Alabama is 99% (Okay, I have give something for the home team) as good as buying a Chevy built Ohio.

I'm not a buy America nut. But common sense dictates if you don't make at least a minimal effort, you have no right to complain about joblessness.

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August 4, 2010 3:15 PM    in reply to Cliff Hendroval

I had the dubious pleasure of deposing the owners of some insulation contractors a few years ago. They were complaining that the manufacturers had not given them the best prices possible (although they were getting much better deals than consumers or retailers). They were all white guys, most had either worked their way up or been the sons of the founders, and had made a killing in the housing bubble. It turned out that at least in part this had to do with hiring non-English speaking, less skilled workers. They all danced around the status of their work force, but as one put it they wouldn't buy new, improved products that required training "because then we'd have some language issues."

I've got nothing against the workers, personally - as crappy and one-sided as the deal they get is, if they can get it more power to them. The leaches who employ them, taking advantage of their desperation to profit, while undercutting their competition, ignoring the law, preventing others from the path to success they enjoyed - I'd like to stick a boot in all their asses.

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August 4, 2010 11:23 AM   

They turned me into a newt!

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August 4, 2010 11:24 AM   

Has A Legal Goober Taken Advantage Of You?

Well, once when I was playing poker this (what looked like)a legal goober was picking his nose (at the card table)and his finger got stuck up his nose. His uncle (who was also his father) help his grandson/son(?) pull his finger out of his nose, then proceeded to have a few more boiled peanuts,washed it down with a Mountain Due before pushing all-in with his chips. It was a tough decision for me but I decided to fold my hand - due to sanitary issues.

Does this qualify as being taken advantage of?

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August 4, 2010 11:25 AM   

If you have been the victim of a hate-crime by an American citizen (or anybody else), or if your business has gone under because of the Bush economic policies (or because the Reps just refusted to vote on loans to small businesses), or if you have lost your job because of the economic collapse brought on by right-wing economic policies and lack of regulation of the financial sector, we want to know about it.

If you have photos and videos of anybody doing outrageous things (like saying the president is not an American citizen or carrying racist anti-Obama signs, or photos of racist anti-Obama billboards), please share those as well. We need to get the true story out about right-wingers and their ignorance and prejudices and we need your help to do it.

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August 4, 2010 11:28 AM   

Okay, on the Sarah Palin doll... where did it touch you?

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August 4, 2010 11:34 AM   

I once hired some Mexicans to remove the asbestos from a property I was renovating and one of them goes and cuts himself and bleeds all over the tile floor in the basement. Then, get this, not only does he want a ride to the hospital after I make him clean up all the blood, he wants to get paid too!

I kicked them all out and called INS.

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August 4, 2010 11:47 AM   

The food at one of my favorite Mexican restaurants has declined slightly in quality and variety since the economy went sour.
It's still very good, but not like it was when they first opened.

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August 4, 2010 12:02 PM   

Once an illegal immigrant asked to be paid for helping build this teabagger's shed! How dare he?

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August 4, 2010 12:13 PM   

if your business has gone under because your competition uses illegals

I love how this is obviously the fault of the people making $2/hr, not the sleazebag (likely Republican) owner who's employing them at that rate...

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August 4, 2010 12:24 PM   

Has anyone noticed that there has been a serious lack of trollery today?

Given the subject matter, I'd figure there would be more.

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August 4, 2010 12:45 PM    in reply to mezcalero

Nah. The rightwing trolls have always excelled at urban myth-type stories to advance their narratives.

Calling upon them to provide actual first-person accounts, preferably ones that can be independently verified, understandably hushes them.

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August 4, 2010 1:17 PM    in reply to castanea

I was speaking more in terms of the lack of trolls on this message board.

Usually, what happens is that there is some eyeball-grabbing story about illegal immigration, some person posts a flamingly bigoted message wrapped in constitutional fundamentalism, know-nothing waxings about the good legal immigrants vs. the damn illegals, and about how liberals are destroying America.

Then we return fire into the forest, and realize we're just shooting at shadows.

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August 4, 2010 12:27 PM   

This one time, a major company took a bunch of corporate welfare and moved their production business and hundreds of jobs overseas (where they didn't have to worry about things like safety or human dignity) while still enjoying all the advantages of the American legal system. Their CEO, who had received bonuses even as shareholders suffered, then hired illegal immigrants to do his yardwork and housework for $3/hr. But the illegal immigrants are all brown and foreign, and the CEO is rich and white, so the fact that hundreds of people are out of a job and the economy is crap HAS to be the immigrant's fault, right? I mean, if it wasn't for them, real Americans could be cutting the CEO's lawn!

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August 4, 2010 12:31 PM   

I'm sorry, but I forgot to ask the brown people who have taken advantage of me whether they were illegal. I was having too good of a time.

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August 4, 2010 9:05 PM    in reply to JefferyK

Nice.

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August 4, 2010 12:46 PM   

I grew up in Niagara Falls NY. One day while walking to school, a Canadian approached me, said "Donnez votre lait de l'argent", then pushed me down and stole my milk money.

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August 4, 2010 12:55 PM    in reply to An Outhouse

That doesn't count. We're only interested in Mexicans speaking Spanish. I'm not even sure if Salvadorans count, although they pass through Mexico to sneak in.

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August 4, 2010 12:47 PM   

Can't wait for the alien abduction/probing stories to come pouring in!

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August 4, 2010 12:50 PM   

"Tell the true story"? How can they tell? For that matter, how can they distinguish reality and fact from fantasy and desires?

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August 4, 2010 12:51 PM   

I once saw a no-hitter by some dominican named Ubaldo Jimenez where he struck out only Americans (except Martin Prado)! this is proof they are out to stick it to us! Has anyone checked his papers?

Also, I once ordered a burrito without beans at el pollo loco and they put beans in it!!? Are they trying to kill us real American's with indigestion? I bet all those brownies in there were illegal.

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August 4, 2010 12:59 PM   

This whole chain of response is less than brilliant. Illegal construction workers have displace tens of thousands of American workers. A large portion of those workers are black. Isn't it racist to prefer someone of lighter brown skin to someone of darker? Don't we as a society owe more by way of job opportunities to black citizens than to Mexican non-citizens?

Pretending there's no problem with illegal workers is just ignorant. The simplistic "close the border" answer is also ignorant. The real answers are complex, and won't make anyone totally happy. Can America even find real answers to problems any more?

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August 4, 2010 1:28 PM    in reply to wyt

You sound reasonable, so I'll take you on.

A couple questions:

- why would you assume that Mexican illegal workers are displacing blacks? Are you making that statement using perceived notions of relative poverty among Blacks and Hispanics. If so, arent you using the same fallacious logic as former Mexican President Vicente Fox when he said "Mexicans do work not even Blacks will do," only your logic is reverse?

If not, is it safe to assume that all Blacks posess the same human capital for labor as all illegal Mexicans working in construction?

- "Isn't it racist to prefer someone of lighter brown skin to someone of darker?"

I would say "yes" if we take for truth the idea that businesses that hire cheap illegal labor hire them because they're lighter skinned than Blacks. I don't agree. In fact, it may not even be a given that all illegal Mexican migrants are lighter than all Blacks.

My larger argument is that alot of the dynamics of using immigrant labor involve micro and macro economic forces. By arguing strictly along color and race lines, you're making the same mistake as the left-wing bleeding hearts who see the issue in strictly in terms of race as well.

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August 4, 2010 1:46 PM    in reply to wyt

Why is it always the workers who are the problem and never the employers?

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August 4, 2010 1:06 PM   

Teabaggers, read Leviticus 19: 33-34

Or are the Teagaggers atheists?

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August 4, 2010 1:31 PM    in reply to Metzengerstein

"With roughly 9 in 10 of its citizens claiming to believe in God or a Supreme Being, America is widely acknowledged to be the most religious of modern industrial nations. Yet when it comes to knowledge about religion, it ranks among the most ill-informed. While close to two thirds of all Americans regard the Bible as a source of answers to life's questions, only half can name even one of the New Testament Gospels. Similarly, in a land of growing religious diversity, only 10 percent of U.S. teenagers can name the world's five major religions." (4/1/07, U.S.News & World Report)

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August 4, 2010 1:08 PM   

Because widespread unemployment and your 401K sinking faster than Larry Craig's pants in an airport bathroom are caused by people sneaking over the border to pick lettuce for less than minimum wage.

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August 4, 2010 1:33 PM   

My Story:
My name is Rush Limbaugh. Well, the other day, this young brown boy talked to me about "a good time". But he was lying. Then, he stole all my illegal viagra!

This is an outrage.

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August 4, 2010 1:51 PM   

Tea bagger stupidity at its best. Embrace and love the capitalistic system but don't realize that cheap labor is what drives it. Indentured servants to slaves, from slaves to immigrants and outsourcing.

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August 4, 2010 2:05 PM   

One question to the Tea Party - if you suspect a work site is hiring illegals, why not call the ICE on them? Or is the idea of plant managers and HR people going to jail too much to bear?

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August 4, 2010 2:27 PM   

I'd like to ask the 'Tea-Baggers' one question: Have YOU ever taken advantage of an 'illegal immigrant'?

If they answered honestly, far more of them would be on the 'taken advantage OF' side than the 'taken advantage BY' side.

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August 4, 2010 2:51 PM   

I normally ride my bike to the light-rail station and then take the train out to my work. There are pegs on the train to hang your bike up. Because I catch a 6:30 train, there's almost always a peg for me to hang up my bike which allows me to take a seat (in view of my bike, of course) drink my coffee and check my email on my laptop. Well, Tuesday I got on the train and all FOUR pegs were already taken. Two of the guys were speaking Spanish. I had to stand--STAND!--for the first 15 minutes of my 75 minute commute. They were probably illegals. So all I could do is stand there, listening to an audiobook, while holding my bike with one hand and a rail with the other. I didn't even get to drink my coffee ! I didn't want to stand, I wanted to sit and these illegals took my bike peg AND my seat! Why these people can steal the bike peg from honest, hard working Americans like myself is beyond me. I bet they don't even HAVE bicycles in Mexico!

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August 4, 2010 4:07 PM    in reply to ladyfractal

ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

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August 4, 2010 3:14 PM   

My forefather, Jacob ****, arrived in Connecticut in 1634 and joined the expedition to exterminate the Pequot. He and his descendents then invited their friends and neighbors and, eventually THEIR friends and neighbors across the continent of Europe to join them. Then we said "we must limit immigration."
Let us say a small group of Iranians settle in Virginia . They loose a deadly disease, like smallpox or measles, which kills a very large number of Murkns. According to your reasoning, they may invite fellow Iranians to help them exterminate the rest of the Murkns or so many as doesn't matter, and then invite Syrians, Afghans, Indians, Lebanese, Egytians, etc., to join them. When Murkns who fled to Canada (like the Mexicans who fled to Mexico from Arizona during the "Mexican War") attempt to return, they are told they are "illegal immigrants."
So the argument goes, "Might Makes Right." Germany had every right to Austria and Czechoslovakia because it was more powerful. It got in trouble when it took on even more powerful nations. As long as you can murder enough people, you have the right to anything you want.
I like the parallel. Hitler got rid of a lot of Jews. Mrkns got rid of a lot of littler, browner people over 3 ½ centuries.

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August 4, 2010 3:17 PM   

This one time, I had a field full of lettuce that needed to be harvested and these immigrants came along and did all the work for way less than I felt right about paying... course I didn't give them more money, but I felt bad.

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August 4, 2010 3:27 PM   

One of the most revealing statements in Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential is that basically all restaurants (not just Mexican, but pretty much everything up to the top rung of the ladder) depends on Mexican and Central American kitchen help. Don't know what the percentage of legal/illegal is, but I bet it is pretty high on the illegal side.
Funny thing is, these guys (and they are overwhelmingly guys) get and keep their jobs because they work their balls off. Most white kids, if they want to go into the restaurant game, go to culinary schools these days and don't want to work their way up from washing dishes.

Something to ask your favorite teatarded friends about when they take you to their favorite steakhouse and start bitching about how the browns are ruining the world and/or how the market rewards effort and hard work. Even if that place is a Golden Corral.

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August 4, 2010 3:57 PM   

Soon we will be reading stories about evil, evil illegals who came down from their spaceships and did anal probes on unsuspecting, sleeping white, male, conservative voters and then put flouride in their mouths in order to lure them into communism with the mantra of "NAFTA Superhighway, NAFTA Superhighway".

Yes, indeed, Teabaggery is the new "Outer Limits" of 2010.

And I will not refudiate even one word of what I just wrote or what I scrawled onto my hand.

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August 4, 2010 4:03 PM   

Wellll, Mr. President, it's the bees and spiders again! They stole my food stamps and sold them to the rats, and I tried to get down to my car for to honk the horn for help, but the snakes is guardin' it for the cockroaches! I go back upstairs, but the spiders has jammed the police lock! I ain't been inside for a week, and I know my that wife is sleepin' with the bees! Oh...

Could you state that as a question, please?

Well, sure, Mr. President! Where can I get a job?

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August 4, 2010 4:55 PM   

Know what? This week, a bunch of Hispanic guys put up a new fence in my backyard. It was 106 degrees every day. They worked their asses off and did a great job.

Were any of the guys on the crew illegals?

WHO THE FUCK CARES? It's HOT out there, man.

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August 4, 2010 5:46 PM   

I am not a member of the Tea Party, or a conservative, or a racist, but I do have stories personal stories regarding negative experiences with illegal immigrants. I've got a half dozen of them and I'm not the only liberal who has them and wants something done about immigration reform as it only works for Big Ag, and big business. I'm fed up with any criticism of the system turning me into an instant rethug punching bag.

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August 5, 2010 1:25 PM    in reply to politicky

politicky,

I don't think anyone here denies that immigration reform is needed. What I am making fun of is the right wings immediate response of making it all about the immigrants themselves. I worked in a lot of restaurants and made friends with wonderful hardworking dishwashers, etc. who were illegal, and paid in cash. Meanwhile, their bosses who hired them, are Rush-loving, Bush-loving, Mexican-bashing Rethugs. I can't think of anything more hypocritically stupid. So, I don't see the teabaggers calling for massive BUSTS and ARRESTS of the Rethug business owners. I see them asking you to tell your favorite story of when a "meskin" offended you.

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August 4, 2010 7:36 PM   

The Tea Party activists and their Republican funders promote conflicts over issues of immigration, teachers’ unions, public workers pensions, and big government as substitutes for the critical analysis of real economic crisis. These false choices work, they mobilize, because they seem to offer an explanation – albeit a false one- to the very real economic pain of working people and the unemployed. Our task is to point out that the U.S. and eventually world wide financial crisis was caused by the greed and the theft of a few very rich operatives. The oligarchy caused the crisis, the unemployment ( not immigrants), the economic losses, the off shoring of production jobs, the cuts in services to the poor, to families, and to the unemployed.

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August 4, 2010 9:03 PM   

One time and illegal immigrant from Russia made me these delicious pastries with some russian name and I ate them almost against my will, at 3am that night and then I felt guilty and had to actually get off my ass and go to the gym. It was horrific. When will it stop? I can't keep going to the gym...I'm not an animal!

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August 5, 2010 5:43 AM   

My forefather, Jacob ****, arrived in Connecticut in 1634 and joined the expedition to exterminate the Pequot. He and his descendents then invited their friends and neighbors and, eventually THEIR friends and neighbors across the continent of Europe to join them. Then we said "we must limit immigration."
Let us say a small group of Iranians settle in Virginia . They loose a deadly disease, like smallpox or measles but deadlier, which kills a very large number of Murkns. According to your reasoning, they may invite fellow Iranians to help them exterminate the rest of the Murkns or so many as doesn't matter, and then invite Syrians, Afghans, Indians, Lebanese, Egytians, etc., to join them. When Murkns who fled to Canada (like the Mexicans who fled to Mexico from Arizona during the "Mexican War") attempt to return, they are told they are "illegal immigrants."
So the argument goes, "Might Makes Right." Germany had every right to Austria and Czechoslovakia because it was more powerful. It got in trouble when it took on even more powerful nations. As long as you can murder enough people, you have the right to anything you want, as the United States has proven since before it was even a nation. Anglos get to kill whoever they enjoy killing.
I like the parallel. Hitler got rid of a lot of Jews. Mrkns got rid of a lot of littler, browner people over 3 ½ centuries.

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