TPM just spoke to Wisconsin Democratic state Sen. Chris Larson, one of the fugitive Dems who has left the state in order to block the three-fifths quorum needed for a vote on Gov. Scott Walker’s anti-public employee union proposals, regarding the state Senate GOP’s newly-passed fines of $100 per day for the absent Dems. And the way Larson tells it, the fines don’t faze him and his fellow Democrats.
“They’ve become increasingly desperate with these petty things that they’re throwing out there,” Larson said. “The next thing they’re gonna throw out is we’re gonna have to say ‘Mother, may I’ before anybody can talk.”
TPM asked Larson, who said he was at a rest stop in Illinois, whether he was prepared to pay the fines. “You know, it’s not about us, it’s not about the finances,” said Larson. “It’s about the cuts that they’re doing to workers rights, it’s about the cuts that they’re doing to educators, and throwing out Medicare, Medicaid and Seniorcare, and trying to change these provisions.”
Larson also was not entirely sure whether the fines were legally permissible. “First of all, it’s in the Constitution that you cannot diminish a person’s wages,” said Larson. “But it’s beside the point. The fact that they’re trying to hold our paychecks and have these fines, it’s petty and it’s not impacting anybody. We had a meeting and nobody flinched at it. It was just like, wow, he’s [Fitzgerald] looking really desperate.”
Later in the interview, TPM noted to Larson that the fines appeared to be based on a provision in the state Constitution that the legislature “may compel the attendance of absent members in such manner and under such penalties as each house may provide.”
“Well, we’ll have to see when we go back,” said Larson. “We’ll go over it with some lawyers. The fact is, it’s giving - it’s not making us think about it twice. We’re focused on preserving workers’ rights, preserving the way of life in Wisconsin without these huge cuts to rights. That’s what we’re focused on.
“If they want to throw out fines, if they want to call us names and if they want to take over our staff, they’re doing everything they can to ignore what the real issue is, and that’s that they’re going too far with their power grab. The public is crying foul and calling them out on their power grab, and they’re just ignoring it.”
He also added: “What they do to us is of little consequence, compared to what they’re doing to themselves right now.”